AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICAINS DONT GET PAID WELL !

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Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia

22 months ago

CSI420 in Fenton, Michigan said: That isnt a job working for Nissan dude. Its sub-contracted out to a third party company. These guys try to diagnose from a desk 1000 miles away. Basically all they are good for is they have access to more cases of a certain problem to send you in a certain direction. I dont know why the dealer CSI doesnt include statistics like that. Identa-Fix does and is usefull.

How does someone go about applying for that?

Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia

22 months ago

CSI420 in Fenton, Michigan said: That isnt a job working for Nissan dude. Its sub-contracted out to a third party company. These guys try to diagnose from a desk 1000 miles away. Basically all they are good for is they have access to more cases of a certain problem to send you in a certain direction. I dont know why the dealer CSI doesnt include statistics like that. Identa-Fix does and is usefull.

I wasn't paying attention I replied thinking you were the other guy. The job for Nissan isn't a do at home type thing like identifix, justanswer, fixit, etc. These guys actually work at the Smyrna Nissan plant and work with the engineers, and tech specialists. whenever someone from the shop calls it is at the plant.

john

21 months ago

Look at these delusional creeps.

Job Summary: Requirements:
* 2 years experience Heavy Equipment Mechanic.
* Experience in welding (Mig & Tig), fabrication, mechanical experience.
* Experience working on hydraulics.
* Able to fabricate components from a sketch or blueprints.
* Have own hand tools; sockets, wrenches, impact wrinch (tool list to be provided at time of interview).
* Dependable, on time, and able to follow instructions.
* Reliable transporation to jobsite.
* Able to work with minimal supervision.
* Team player and work with minimal supervision
* Must be dependable, on time and able to follow instructions.
* Available to work overtime as needed.
* Pass pre-employment drug screen, post-job offer physical, and background check.
* Must pass welding test.

Preferences:
* Experience working on heavy equipment.

Duties:
* Install accessories on equipment.
* Pre-deliver machines and possible field installation of new equipment.
* Perform diagnostic tests on machines to determine if a machine is operating properly.
* Disassemble machines for inspection and repair.
* Perform mechanical work with own tools under supervisor's direction.
* Weld, cut and general metal repair.
* Learn the hydraulic systems on our equipment; flow and pressure test to diagnose.
* Install accessories on machines such as guards, bang boards, electrical cables.
* Job requires moving machinery up to 50 pounds and crawling onto and around machinery throughout the shift.
* Demonstrate the ability to learn.
* Follow supervision willingly and work well with other team members.
* Other duties as assigned.

Shift:
* 7:30 A.M. to 4:00 P.M..

Wage:
* $12.00 to $13.00 an hour Depending on Experience

john

21 months ago

This ad has been running for some time.Make twice as much fixing coffee machines.
Coffee Equipment and Refrigeration Techs Needed (SEA Metro Area)
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You will need great communication skills and be able to provide a high level of customer service. You'll need solid computer skills (we're a Mac based company). Experience with iPads and iPhones a plus!

We need someone who is willing to be on the road working some long days including evenings, weekends and holidays as we are a 24 X 7 company.

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Hours could involve mid to evening shifts, as we are developing a 2nd shift. •Location: SEA Metro Area
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john

21 months ago

Frank in Naples, Florida said: I've read many of the posts here and can relate to most of them as I have been in the trade all my life, from busting tires to managing shops. The thing that I see missing here are SOLUTIONS. So I'll throw in my 2 cents. Please keep in mind that I hate Govt regulation. 1- State saftey inspection and emmission testing, EVERYWHERE. 2- NO MORE PARTS STORES DOING CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DIAG AND A/C TOP OFFS IN THE PARKING LOT. 3- IF YOU ARENT CERTIFIED FOR IT, YOU DONT TOUCH IT (no more lube techs doing brake jobs) 4- NO CERTIFICATION, NO BRAKE, A/C, STEERING OR SUSPENSION PARTS FOR YOU, Mr "Do it yourselfer" If you think you can tune it yourself and it runs poorly and fails an emission test, bring it to a PROFESSIONAL. Everyone knows that for most services that require a skill such as electrician , contractor, TRUCK DRIVER , are regulated. Thats why a CDL driver usually makes more than a truck mechanic WITH A REQUIRED CDL . These changes would increase car count, increse saftey (we've all seen the botched do it yourself brake job an wondered how no one was killed). It would also reduce pollution and most importantly for those not happy with the reward for thier effort it would weed out the hacks which would leave the GOOD, PROFESSIONAL TECHS HOLDING THE ACES WHEN IT COME TIME TO NEGOTIATE PAY. Just a thought......

As soon as these dirtballs find a Mexican your gone!

john

21 months ago

The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

john

21 months ago

john said: The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

All the little punks wanted to do was cut me down because it made them look bad and management think they could screw me out of time because they thought I could afford it.The exact opposite of when it used to be a noble profession and a job done by men.

john

21 months ago

None of you dummies have a clue what these dealer associations and independent little groups are doing behind your backs.It is absolutely illegal and against your civil rights and you are all to stupid to do anything except cry like babies.If a job isn't paying don't do it and demand at least 40% or it aint worth it!

john

21 months ago

General laborers are making more money without any investment into tools or schooling.How did it ever get this bad?Because you are a puss.

john

21 months ago

john said: The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

The part that ticked me off the most about that job was the punks should have been hitting a 100% but they were screwed on their times.

john

21 months ago

Install gutters like a low tech dummy and make twice as much as you do wrenching with 50k tools in your box.
LeafGuard is one of the largest, privately owned, home improvement companies in the Nation, with over 60 years of experience. We are searching for motivated, confident construction professionals to install our gutters. You must have a high level of technical expertise in the trades and be a positive force in the work place. Candidates will be clean cut and well groomed, have excellent communication skills, be able to pass background check and drug test, and have an insurable driving record. This is truly an unbelievable opportunity for the right individual. Our lead installers make between $60K and $90K. This is a long term career position, with room to advance. If you have a high level of construction experience, we can teach you the finer-points of our installation business. Some of our best installers are carpenters, sheet metal workers, millwrights and roofing installers. You must be willing to work weekends

john

21 months ago

If you are a journeyman doing general repair(2 years or more)experience you should expect 40% of the shop labor rate and fully certified master,trans or diesel specialist should expect 50%.Every dealer in the country is looking and they are all playing games.

john

21 months ago

I wished I could post charts but the salary index for dealer techs is going straight down when it should be going up.I can't believe how stupid everyone is!

john

21 months ago

Got to SalaryExpert.com check out fruit picker salaries between 16-25k for what?3 or 4 months if that.A lot of you meatheads don't make that in 12 months!

john

21 months ago

john said: Got to SalaryExpert.com check out fruit picker salaries between 16-25k for what?3 or 4 months if that.A lot of you meatheads don't make that in 12 months!

Average auto tech salary in a dealer is 36k for 12 months of busting your ass and pulling your hair out.

john

21 months ago

john

21 months ago

john said: www.indeed.com/salary/q-Chevrolet-Technician-l-Lanham ,-MD.html

14% higher than average

john

21 months ago

john said: 14% higher than average

I have been doing it for 30 years and I would eat your lunch!

john

21 months ago

john said: I have been doing it for 30 years and I would eat your lunch!

Rookie!

john

21 months ago

In one particular dealer they had one guy walking around all day with his time card in his hand doing front end work that did 200k easy while five guys in the back doing warranty Northstar bedplates and Duramax head gaskets for like 30k.There is no comparison.

john

21 months ago

They have to have a couple primadonnas up front actually making a living to poke fun at the guys doing the real work in the back.It works kind of like a carrot on a string.

john

21 months ago

This was cut from an email I just received from a Service Manager(factual and the truth)He emailed me about a job and I explained that came came from a different time and place.He responded back rather nasty this is just a small part."Your right about your reference to "Time Disputes" and the 50%, 60%, 40% pay structures, this practice has not been in use for over 20yrs!"I responded back and said you're right we have been getting screwed for over 20 years.Just happened today!

Mikex1021

21 months ago

I actually dont remember the last time i did a flush or brake job. All i do is heavy line and diesel. And the guys that cry and complain about the guys doing all the gravy, 99.9% of the time are the premadonnas.

old mechanic in Atlanta, Georgia

21 months ago

Guys, when everyone stops degrading his fellow craftsman and starts working together toward a common goal of improving the conditions, everything for the profession will change.

You don't see lawyers, doctors, judges or even their organizations or supervising agencies like the Judicial Qualifications Commission or Bar associations cutting each other down. Heck even politicians fall in that group.

So why do you do it? To make yourself feel better. To explain to yourself why you are not making the money, or have the lifestyle you should?

If you really must attack some part of the auto industry, then attack this new R1234yf refrigerant that Dupont and Honeywell have engineered that is literally putting your life at risk as well as your career

john

21 months ago

Mikex1021 said: I actually dont remember the last time i did a flush or brake job. All i do is heavy line and diesel. And the guys that cry and complain about the guys doing all the gravy, 99.9% of the time are the premadonnas.

You have a big arrogant mouth.I routinely hit 300% but most of the guys work plenty hard enough to get 100% but only get 50%.They have pushed the average tech wage down to near fruit picker levels.Your days are numbered anyway put that in your diary.You need to put your money where your mouth is at bigshot.Average dealer tech salary is 35k look it up and all the charts have steadily been going down as the technology and shortages increase.That means the wages should be going up and you are not smart enough to argue with me.

john

21 months ago

I have been in all three and have never seen heavy guys hit anywhere near 90k with the powertrain warranties.Most of them are getting hammered.You must be padding your c/pay hard!

john

21 months ago

Mikex1021 said: I actually dont remember the last time i did a flush or brake job. All i do is heavy line and diesel. And the guys that cry and complain about the guys doing all the gravy, 99.9% of the time are the premadonnas.

Look back a few comments.The one about the email from the S/M today.He was bragging about his top dog was at 122% in the middle of summer and his lot was slammed.He had two guys at that and was his best examples.We all know the type that get fed the gravy up front and flag an hour on every CEL that comes through the door and if that is the best they have is pathetic.A farely big dealer so I know their heavy and general guys weren't getting it.

retired in Chagrin Falls, Ohio

21 months ago

I'm 99.3% sure that when I was making 33.7% of the labor rate it was in line with 78% of the shops that were paying flat rate for the top 25% of their techs. Of course this only happened 10% of the time.

john

21 months ago

retired in Chagrin Falls, Ohio said: I'm 99.3% sure that when I was making 33.7% of the labor rate it was in line with 78% of the shops that were paying flat rate for the top 25% of their techs. Of course this only happened 10% of the time.

When is the keyword!I made 50% first time out in '85

john

21 months ago

john said: Look back a few comments.The one about the email from the S/M today.He was bragging about his top dog was at 122% in the middle of summer and his lot was slammed.He had two guys at that and was his best examples.We all know the type that get fed the gravy up front and flag an hour on every CEL that comes through the door and if that is the best they have is pathetic.A farely big dealer so I know their heavy and general guys weren't getting it.

His best guy was at $24

john

21 months ago

john said: When is the keyword!I made 50% first time out in '85

A short block in a motorhome paid 40 hrs and I did them in 12 at 19 years old shoprate was 27 I got 13.50 w/full benefits but trannies were my thing.

john

21 months ago

john said: A short block in a motorhome paid 40 hrs and I did them in 12 at 19 years old shoprate was 27 I got 13.50 w/full benefits but trannies were my thing.

Had a 440t4 done by one 14 a pop or a 700r4 by noon 12-15 2008 did 94k at the bottom of the recession.It wreaks now but the stock is rolling!

john

21 months ago

I see guys doing Northstar bedplates in two weeks and Duramax head gaskets in three weeks steady hard at it making $10.00 an hour the idiots can't be making any money doing it that way.If they would step up and pay a pro but they just don't think in those terms because they just want to lay everyone out at the door.A fruit picker can make as much in a day as they did in a week and they were to stupid to know like they were brainwashed dummies.Maybe they thought it would get better.

mikex1021 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

21 months ago

john said: You have a big arrogant mouth.I routinely hit 300% but most of the guys work plenty hard enough to get 100% but only get 50%.They have pushed the average tech wage down to near fruit picker levels.Your days are numbered anyway put that in your diary.You need to put your money where your mouth is at bigshot.Average dealer tech salary is 35k look it up and all the charts have steadily been going down as the technology and shortages increase.That means the wages should be going up and you are not smart enough to argue with me.

Hate to burst your bubble buddy but the only arrogant one here is you. i average 140 hours every 2 weeks at 28/hr. you do the math if your capable and i would be more than happy to show you my paycheck anyday. i have no reason to make things up. i know nobody here so i have no one to impress. Also i dont just do one thing like all you old timers do im not afraid to learn more than just front end or trans or trim. One thing you have to realize is that lub techs are also calculated in that equation and they average 20k a year which brings the numbers down alot considering that dealer lub to atech ratios are way in favor of lub techs.

john

21 months ago

mikex1021 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: Hate to burst your bubble buddy but the only arrogant one here is you. i average 140 hours every 2 weeks at 28/hr. you do the math if your capable and i would be more than happy to show you my paycheck anyday. i have no reason to make things up. i know nobody here so i have no one to impress. Also i dont just do one thing like all you old timers do im not afraid to learn more than just front end or trans or trim. One thing you have to realize is that lub techs are also calculated in that equation and they average 20k a year which brings the numbers down alot considering that dealer lub to atech ratios are way in favor of lub techs.[/QUOTE
You really aren't a very intelligent person.Most lube techs are paid hourly and in the biggest ones I have never seen more than one or two.If their pay is fixed how do they affect a salary index chart that has been going straight down?duh

john

21 months ago

john said:

All your doing is bragging like an arrogant idiot and I am certain you are exaggerating,you may not even be a real tech.I'm not that old.W
hat line of cars do you work Mike?

john

21 months ago

john said: All your doing is bragging like an arrogant idiot and I am certain you are exaggerating,you may not even be a real tech.I'm not that old.W
hat line of cars do you work Mike?

I just looked it up and the average pay for a master tech(no lube techs and no average techs)in Ft.Lauderdale is 45k and Mike here is claiming he makes double that.He is almost certainly exaggerating or lying or he pads his time extremely hard and is getting away with like a thief.If he does heavy with the powertrain warranties it has been running 80-90%warranty work he could never flag those kind of hours.The national average for a dealer auto tech is 35k.
The little old ladies at Walmart have more balls than you wussies and are standing up for themselves and they may be making more!

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

Lube techs at every dealer in and around my area are all on a flat rate pay. You are probably in a hick ass town where there is one dealer in a 400 mile area.

Brenton in Toronto, Ontario

21 months ago

One big issue with the pay is any meat wagon can walk into a hardware store, buy what ever he wants, put it on or in any ones car he wants and not have to prove he is a licensed automotive service technician. Then these people come to my dealership bitching at us to fix it for free to them and at half the cost for me to fix it! Horse $***! Manufactures need to stop hacking warranty times down and stand up to the government and force them to regulate who can buy, diagnose and repair these vehicles. The tools hair dressers can buy are not available to the public but my entire tool box and everything in it is.. I can't be the only one who sees that as a major milestone for changing this botched trade.

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

john said: I just looked it up and the average pay for a master tech(no lube techs and no average techs)in Ft.Lauderdale is 45k and Mike here is claiming he makes double that.He is almost certainly exaggerating or lying or he pads his time extremely hard and is getting away with like a thief.If he does heavy with the powertrain warranties it has been running 80-90%warranty work he could never flag those kind of hours.The national average for a dealer auto tech is 35k.
The little old ladies at Walmart have more balls than you wussies and are standing up for themselves and they may be making more!

For one i dont work in ft lauderdale. Website auto picked the location. 2nd i do about 60% warranty and 40% cp. and 3rd i work 50-60hrs a week. So doing 70hrs a week is actually not that hard. Its about a 120-140% efficient. Like i said before would be more than happy to send anyone here a paystub showing hours i turn and hourly pay. And yes i am a master tech with diesel ase aswell.

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida said: Lube techs at every dealer in and around my area are all on a flat rate pay. You are probably in a hick ass town where there is one dealer in a 400 mile area.

I work on gm vehicles

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

john said:

To be honest we dont get any headgaskets on duramax. Only problem we see is injectors and pumps. Couple water pumps I do alot more traverse front cover gaskets and chains and it takes me about 3.5 hours. I believe they pay 8 under warranty. Dont really see any 2.8s in trailblazers. They have 4.2 mostly. Colorados have the 2.8 i believe. An the trailblazer takes me 4-6 hour dependling on how many headbolts snap in the block. Do alot of chains on the equinox which take about 45-1hr pays 4.2 warranty. Done a few northstar reseals. Do them in a day. Do alot of cam and lifters do those in about 7hrs pays 15-16hrs. Do cobolt motors in 3hrs. All truck motors in a day. Few turbos on diesel. About 4 hrs with lifting cab off frame. Front cover gasket on camaro 1.5 hrs pays 3.9 i believe. Do water pumps on trailblazer in 20 min pays 3.2hrs, heads on the ecotec in about 3.5 hours. Rear mains in 2.5 hrs. Rearplace all bearings in rear ends 2hrs. Def tanks about 20 min. Pays about 2.2. Would u like any more info. I could go all day.

john

21 months ago

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida said: To be honest we dont get any headgaskets on duramax. Only problem we see is injectors and pumps. Couple water pumps I do alot more traverse front cover gaskets and chains and it takes me about 3.5 hours. I believe they pay 8 under warranty. Dont really see any 2.8s in trailblazers. They have 4.2 mostly. Colorados have the 2.8 i believe. An the trailblazer takes me 4-6 hour dependling on how many headbolts snap in the block. Do alot of chains on the equinox which take about 45-1hr pays 4.2 warranty. Done a few northstar reseals. Do them in a day. Do alot of cam and lifters do those in about 7hrs pays 15-16hrs. Do cobolt motors in 3hrs. All truck motors in a day. Few turbos on diesel. About 4 hrs with lifting cab off frame. Front cover gasket on camaro 1.5 hrs pays 3.9 i believe. Do water pumps on trailblazer in 20 min pays 3.2hrs, heads on the ecotec in about 3.5 hours. Rear mains in 2.5 hrs. Rearplace all bearings in rear ends 2hrs. Def tanks about 20 min. Pays about 2.2. Would u like any more info. I could go all day.

You are a liar!I would give you my email address so you could send your stuff but I am certain you are just an idiot.

Bob in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

21 months ago

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida said: I work on gm vehicles

Just think of how much you would make if you got overtime, good benifets, and a future that wasn't going to hurt your body. 50-60 hours a week with overtime pay is pretty good, family life suffers, but hey you can always brag on forums. What are some of your keys to success?

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

john said: You are a liar!I would give you my email address so you could send your stuff but I am certain you are just an idiot.

Send it ill be more than happy to send u info.

Mikex1021 in Boynton Beach, Florida

21 months ago

Bob in Baton Rouge, Louisiana said: Just think of how much you would make if you got overtime, good benifets, and a future that wasn't going to hurt your body. 50-60 hours a week with overtime pay is pretty good, family life suffers, but hey you can always brag on forums. What are some of your keys to success?

Problem is you would never get that much overtime in a regular hourly job. Most companies now dont allow overtime. I do have good benifits. Dont have a family just fiance and im 27 body hasnt started hurting yet but will deff as time goes by. Secret to success is stay busy dont sit on your ass waiting for the shop foreman to bring u work. Be proactive and go get work. So many guys just sit in there chairs at a computer complaining about work that they dont want to do.My dealer is busy so work is always avaliable. And foreman brings me all heavyline and oil leaks as im the only one that does heavyline. Mainly what i do but will also do alignments suspension check engine lights. Abs lights airbag lights. Not afraid to do all kinds of work. I dont do transmissions as we have one guy that does all our trans work. And he gets paid 35/hr flatrate.

john

21 months ago

This kind of reminds me of the Ford 5.4 head gasket dispute that paid 8.6 hours.Ford with a national database had an opportunity to prove those times and chose a tech that showed the fastest times they could find.The best time he could achieve was 12.4.Tens of thousands had been done nation wide to that point.The judge ordered the time be raised to 12.4 hrs but not retroactive.Mike thinks he is better than everyone and they should get another cut in pay because he is an arrogant idiot.

Mikex1021 in Orlando, Florida

21 months ago

john said: This kind of reminds me of the Ford 5.4 head gasket dispute that paid 8.6 hours.Ford with a national database had an opportunity to prove those times and chose a tech that showed the fastest times they could find.The best time he could achieve was 12.4.Tens of thousands had been done nation wide to that point.The judge ordered the time be raised to 12.4 hrs but not retroactive.Mike thinks he is better than everyone and they should get another cut in pay because he is an arrogant idiot.

Who said anything about ford.

john

21 months ago

john said: I am certain you are a liar Mike because a couple day ago you said you did diesel/heavy line now you say main focus is alignments and CEL's which explain you production that isn't even very high.It is because you stroke the c/pay and you have done any Duramax head gaskets and no one has ever resealed a Northstar in a day.He is probably a service manager trying to justify the low pay and is making the assumption that all other techs are incompentants because they are having issues with the times being paid.

He is to ignorant to understand that there are many guys stuck in situations with nothing but a steady diet of warranty work that aren't making a proper living for the type of work that they do.He is in a unique situation and is a braggadocios little punk.Those are his keys to success stroke the c/pay!

Mikex1021 in Orlando, Florida

21 months ago

john said: I am certain you are a liar Mike because a couple day ago you said you did diesel/heavy line now you say main focus is alignments and CEL's which explain you production that isn't even very high.It is because you stroke the c/pay and you have done any Duramax head gaskets and no one has ever resealed a Northstar in a day.He is probably a service manager trying to justify the low pay and is making the assumption that all other techs are incompentants because they are having issues with the times being paid.

Apparently you cant read. Read that post again and get back to me. You missed something there.

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