AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICAINS DONT GET PAID WELL !

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

I see an ad on TV everyday about a black woman that makes $31.00 an hour slapping mortor between bricks as a cement mason.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

I seen another ad for bathroom remodeling that paid $1550 per job installing a modular bathtub unit that takes 1-2 days per job.Over $800 a day replacing bathtubs aint bad!

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

I had a rear cam plug job passed to me from the engine guy that said he wouldn't do it for the 4.4 hours that warranty time paid.I said that I would.When I turned the ticket into the warranty clerk she said it only paid 3.4.I said WTF!She said he was an engine guy so she looked up the time in the engine category and I was the tranny guy so she looked up the time in the trans category.But is was the same job.Oh well!

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

A speed sensor paid .2 to replace,electric diagnosis paid .6,.1 is added for parts acquisition,.1 for administrative(writing your story)and then a warranty transmission worksheet is attached(requiring vin entry,TSB search, software revisions and documenting of all findings.Total paid to tech .2 hr all included in replacement of part 12 minutes was spent just getting the part and writing your story all the rest was charity work.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

john in Salem, Oregon said: A speed sensor paid .2 to replace,electric diagnosis paid .6,.1 is added for parts acquisition,.1 for administrative(writing your story)and then a warranty transmission worksheet is attached(requiring vin entry,TSB search, software revisions and documenting of all findings.Total paid to tech .2 hr all included in replacement of part 12 minutes was spent just getting the part and writing your story all the rest was charity work.

Why do any of you guys do it?So you can get to the customer pay work and over charge to make up for it.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

john in Salem, Oregon said: Why do any of you guys do it?So you can get to the customer pay work and over charge to make up for it.

I didn't even include the time for test driving or digging the car out of the lot.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Years back your service manager would stand up to the factory and make sure they got paid(time disputes were filed regularly)Now pansy managers don't want to create waves and get audited and most of them have never heard of a time dispute.They don't work for the factory and neither do you especially for free or at dictated pay.You decide what is the fair pay!

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Brian in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Continued from the last comment; bottom line, if you are smart enough to be in auto repair then you can certainly be a millwrite, or powerplant mechanic, and have more fun, and make more $. No more buying your own tools. In my opinion auto repair is a great hobby. If great mechanics/technicians keep leaving the field for better opportunities, then maybe the ones that stick around will start being valued and treated better with more $$$$. Best wishes folks!

I just watched a video about the looming shortage of auto techs that was filmed at a big auto trade school in L.A..The instructor was Latino and most of the students were too.One of the students said he was just using his school grant to learn to repair his own cars and would make over a $100 an hour doing tattoos.There were also a couple of girls that were excited about making a great living.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

john in Salem, Oregon said: I just watched a video about the looming shortage of auto techs that was filmed at a big auto trade school in L.A..The instructor was Latino and most of the students were too.One of the students said he was just using his school grant to learn to repair his own cars and would make over a $100 an hour doing tattoos.There were also a couple of girls that were excited about making a great living.

The instructor had a 1981 Chevy Chevette as a donor and said that cars have become easier to work on with OBD II and scan tools.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Whipsaw in Seattle, Washington said: This is precisely the kind of angry, ignorant jackwagon I steer clear from when hiring . I can see you right now, wanting 6 hours to do a water pump on a Chevy so you can nurse your bottle flu and still make hours. Lazy idiot.

Where do you do your service managing at there Whipsaw in Seattle?

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

ThatsShowBiz in San Francisco, California said: So I maintain a 125%-150% efficiency level pretty much every pay period. I have next to no come backs. But the guy next to me was at 90% efficiency with a comeback every week. He got to keep his job because I was hired after him. That was brutal and made me pretty angst against union shops. I also found at that dealership, tech's deliberately tried to get other techs fired constantly to work themselves up seniority wise.

Then I went and worked at an Audi dealership. I was making $30/ hr once again. This shop was soooooo busy. Unlimited overtime was authorized all the time. You can work all night if you wanted to. Making good flat rate was a bit more difficult considering it was in an inner city and it was 1 rack per tech. But despite all the advantages we had the meanest cruelest slave driving service manager I have ever met in all my years working on cars. He drove everyone into the ground. Techs even went as far as reporting him to OSHA and getting the dealership heavily fined. There was constant secret meetings about unionizing (I hate unions) and combine that with a service manager who verbally abused his techs and acted as if he could replace anyone, I was miserable. My efficiency dropped down to an even 100% even though I knew I was easily capable of making 60-70hrs a week while working 40-50hrs a week.

Well unintentionally, a good friend of mine at a VERY high end luxury car dealership came and found me. They hired me at $27/hr and I took the job in an instant despite the pay drop, just to get away from that A-hole of a service manager. Well I am now back up slightly over $30/hr. I have a service manager that cares about his techs and their well being. I have service writers I will gladly go out and grab a beer with. I finally work at a dealership which has no hacks. I am second most producing in the building I work at and I admire the #1 guy.[/Q

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Jason in Oviedo, Florida

16 months ago

Not to sound like a dick but john get out of there if you hate it. I turned wrenches for 14 years at a GM dealer and watched it decline. Service writers make twice sometime three times as much as a tech. I got canned a year ago and couldn't be happier running a totally different business. If I do go back ill go or a writer job, sit in the a/c, write tickets and collect money. Get out dude if you can.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

@ThatShowBiz in San Francisco.What is the shoprate in your area $120-130??When I went to school I was taught that 40% was minimum for a journeyman and I started at 18 making 50%.So I figure you are only slightly over 20% and aren't making squat!

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

john in Salem, Oregon said: @ThatShowBiz in San Francisco.What is the shoprate in your area $120-130??When I went to school I was taught that 40% was minimum for a journeyman and I started at 18 making 50%.So I figure you are only slightly over 20% and aren't making squat![/QUOTE

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Jason in Oviedo, Florida said: Not to sound like a dick but john get out of there if you hate it. I turned wrenches for 14 years at a GM dealer and watched it decline. Service writers make twice sometime three times as much as a tech. I got canned a year ago and couldn't be happier running a totally different business. If I do go back ill go or a writer job, sit in the a/c, write tickets and collect money. Get out dude if you can.

I am out.Why are service writers (glorified receptionist)getting paid so much lately?They only have basic high school skills and no investments in tools.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Honda and Chrysler now have lifetime powertrain warranties!Now you will only get .7 tenths for an engine replacement and .4 for a transmission but only if you can balance the tight rope strung between Down the Road Motors and the unemployment office.Any other incidental repairs will be considered not billable and just part of being a good citizen feeding corrupt corporate scum.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

That is just like "Employee Pricing to the Public" that just means employees are now going to pay full price and they will use it as a gimmick to sell more cars and improve their image.

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

How about factory extended warranties that can pay you warranty time well after the normal warranty period.You are all cowards,lowlifes,thiefs and idiots!

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john in Salem, Oregon

16 months ago

Brenton in Welland, Ontario said: You have no idea you stupid dick, have you ever quoted a 6 hour job and the uneducated idiot (service advisor/ service manager) says to the customer oh we can do it in 2 hours. Who has to work like a slave? Well it sure as hell isn't you, sitting in your comfy chair in air conditioning on your high horse. It's jackasses like you on the other side of the fence who screw hard working honest techs like me. You should shut that whole in your face until you are forced to work for free. Typical service manager, what a stupid prick you are, you do nothing for this industry it's the tech who should get you pay checks you dick! People who have no idea what they are talking about should shut the "f" up.

I wished more techs had your attitude toward these lowlife scumbags,AWESOME!

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John in Saint Paul, Minnesota

15 months ago

Im a recent grad of uti and what "was" promised of becoming a master tech is quite the BS. My dealer i work for has about 20 lube techs and 15 service techs and About 45 bays. I started out making $9 hourly and after 7 months im now $12 flat rate doing oil changes/tires. I average 35 hours a week. Getting yout ASE is all false info also. I have my ASE in brakes and every now and then they question me on what i found on brake percentages!!!! The only people that move up to service techs are those people who suck D#>K. They will do anything and everything to make themself look better and new employees look like crap. As me being the youngest lube tech (20 yrs old) my coworkers say GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. Oldest lube tech is 32 with 4 ase and has been working there for 4 years makes as much as me hourly wise, kinda pathetic. Now the "A" team service/master techs yea they make 100k a year but theyre like 60 years old. I dont know bout you but im not trying to make $12 flat rate for the next 20 years till i get promoted

Just my 2 cents. Ima give it another 5 months as i prepare myself to go back to school

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Frank in Naples, Florida

14 months ago

I've read many of the posts here and can relate to most of them as I have been in the trade all my life, from busting tires to managing shops. The thing that I see missing here are SOLUTIONS. So I'll throw in my 2 cents. Please keep in mind that I hate Govt regulation. 1- State saftey inspection and emmission testing, EVERYWHERE. 2- NO MORE PARTS STORES DOING CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DIAG AND A/C TOP OFFS IN THE PARKING LOT. 3- IF YOU ARENT CERTIFIED FOR IT, YOU DONT TOUCH IT (no more lube techs doing brake jobs) 4- NO CERTIFICATION, NO BRAKE, A/C, STEERING OR SUSPENSION PARTS FOR YOU, Mr "Do it yourselfer" If you think you can tune it yourself and it runs poorly and fails an emission test, bring it to a PROFESSIONAL. Everyone knows that for most services that require a skill such as electrician, contractor, TRUCK DRIVER, are regulated. Thats why a CDL driver usually makes more than a truck mechanic WITH A REQUIRED CDL. These changes would increase car count, increse saftey (we've all seen the botched do it yourself brake job an wondered how no one was killed). It would also reduce pollution and most importantly for those not happy with the reward for thier effort it would weed out the hacks which would leave the GOOD, PROFESSIONAL TECHS HOLDING THE ACES WHEN IT COME TIME TO NEGOTIATE PAY. Just a thought......

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Frank in Naples, Florida

14 months ago

Hmm. How about this for an after thought.... How about ASE stepping up and doing something to bring the trade up to the level of other trades where certification is REQUIRED. Isn't that supposed to be the reason for the existance of ASE in the first place? I paid for the "feel good" patches, how about getting off the pot and doing some lobbying to get this profession fully out from under the shade tree.

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btodd in Sanford, Florida

14 months ago

I have a position available in Smyrna, TN with Nissan North America.

Position Description:
Automotive service technical diagnosis and repair skill

Answers TECH LINE calls from dealership service technicians and provides them with technical information on the diagnosis and repair of customer vehicles. Collects and documents technical information on new vehicle incidents requiring repairs; prepares reports regarding such incidents for further investigation by engineering staff.
Thorough knowledge of the maintenance and repair of Nissan and Infiniti vehicles; well-versed in use of technical service manuals and tools. Good interpersonal and communications skills.
Eight or more years of increasingly responsible administrative experience, plus one or more years of directly related professional level experience.
AA degree preferred. Consider equivalent related college or technical courses, seminars and in-house classroom training. Certification as an ASE Master Technician.
Basic knowledge of word processor, spreadsheet, other PC applications, etc. to output routine products with similar, non-creative formats.

Nissan and Infiniti TECH LINE position

Skills Matrix: Required
High School Diploma or GED Required
Minimum Years Experience 2-5 years Required
AA degree preferred Desired
Certification as an ASE Master Technician Required

btodd@revolutiontechnologies.com as I will not see comments posted after this :)

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Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia

14 months ago

btodd in Sanford, Florida said: I have a position available in Smyrna, TN with Nissan North America.

Position Description:
Automotive service technical diagnosis and repair skill

Answers TECH LINE calls from dealership service technicians and provides them with technical information on the diagnosis and repair of customer vehicles. Collects and documents technical information on new vehicle incidents requiring repairs; prepares reports regarding such incidents for further investigation by engineering staff.
Thorough knowledge of the maintenance and repair of Nissan and Infiniti vehicles; well-versed in use of technical service manuals and tools. Good interpersonal and communications skills.
Eight or more years of increasingly responsible administrative experience, plus one or more years of directly related professional level experience.
AA degree preferred. Consider equivalent related college or technical courses, seminars and in-house classroom training. Certification as an ASE Master Technician.
Basic knowledge of word processor, spreadsheet, other PC applications, etc. to output routine products with similar, non- creative formats.

Nissan and Infiniti TECH LINE position

Skills Matrix: Required
High School Diploma or GED Required
Minimum Years Experience 2-5 years Required
AA degree preferred Desired
Certification as an ASE Master Technician Required

btodd@revolutiontechnologies.com as I will not see comments posted after this :)

I don't know if this is legit being I look at Nissan.jobs daily for openings in Atlanta, Decherd, and Smyrna. I haven't seen any openings on there for this position but I am looking to do something like this and/or tech specialist that actually diagnoses the cars at the dealership.

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CSI420 in Fenton, Michigan

14 months ago

Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia said: I don't know if this is legit being I look at Nissan.jobs daily for openings in Atlanta, Decherd, and Smyrna. I haven't seen any openings on there for this position but I am looking to do something like this and/or tech specialist that actually diagnoses the cars at the dealership.

That isnt a job working for Nissan dude. Its sub-contracted out to a third party company. These guys try to diagnose from a desk 1000 miles away. Basically all they are good for is they have access to more cases of a certain problem to send you in a certain direction. I dont know why the dealer CSI doesnt include statistics like that. Identa-Fix does and is usefull.

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Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia

14 months ago

CSI420 in Fenton, Michigan said: That isnt a job working for Nissan dude. Its sub-contracted out to a third party company. These guys try to diagnose from a desk 1000 miles away. Basically all they are good for is they have access to more cases of a certain problem to send you in a certain direction. I dont know why the dealer CSI doesnt include statistics like that. Identa-Fix does and is usefull.

How does someone go about applying for that?

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Timothy Langford in Albany, Georgia

14 months ago

CSI420 in Fenton, Michigan said: That isnt a job working for Nissan dude. Its sub-contracted out to a third party company. These guys try to diagnose from a desk 1000 miles away. Basically all they are good for is they have access to more cases of a certain problem to send you in a certain direction. I dont know why the dealer CSI doesnt include statistics like that. Identa-Fix does and is usefull.

I wasn't paying attention I replied thinking you were the other guy. The job for Nissan isn't a do at home type thing like identifix, justanswer, fixit, etc. These guys actually work at the Smyrna Nissan plant and work with the engineers, and tech specialists. whenever someone from the shop calls it is at the plant.

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john

14 months ago

Look at these delusional creeps.

Job Summary: Requirements:
* 2 years experience Heavy Equipment Mechanic.
* Experience in welding (Mig & Tig), fabrication, mechanical experience.
* Experience working on hydraulics.
* Able to fabricate components from a sketch or blueprints.
* Have own hand tools; sockets, wrenches, impact wrinch (tool list to be provided at time of interview).
* Dependable, on time, and able to follow instructions.
* Reliable transporation to jobsite.
* Able to work with minimal supervision.
* Team player and work with minimal supervision
* Must be dependable, on time and able to follow instructions.
* Available to work overtime as needed.
* Pass pre-employment drug screen, post-job offer physical, and background check.
* Must pass welding test.

Preferences:
* Experience working on heavy equipment.

Duties:
* Install accessories on equipment.
* Pre-deliver machines and possible field installation of new equipment.
* Perform diagnostic tests on machines to determine if a machine is operating properly.
* Disassemble machines for inspection and repair.
* Perform mechanical work with own tools under supervisor's direction.
* Weld, cut and general metal repair.
* Learn the hydraulic systems on our equipment; flow and pressure test to diagnose.
* Install accessories on machines such as guards, bang boards, electrical cables.
* Job requires moving machinery up to 50 pounds and crawling onto and around machinery throughout the shift.
* Demonstrate the ability to learn.
* Follow supervision willingly and work well with other team members.
* Other duties as assigned.

Shift:
* 7:30 A.M. to 4:00 P.M..

Wage:
* $12.00 to $13.00 an hour Depending on Experience

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john

14 months ago

This ad has been running for some time.Make twice as much fixing coffee machines.
Coffee Equipment and Refrigeration Techs Needed (SEA Metro Area)
We are currently interviewing for Coffee/espresso equipment and Refrigeration Technicians for immediate work all over the SEA Metro Area.

Northwest Facilities and Equipment Maintenance services coffee grinding, espresso equipment, refrigerated dessert cases and stand up/under counter refrigerators in both Oregon and Washington. We're growing quickly and are looking to expand our Seattle team, particularly someone with experience as a coffee/espresso tech, or with refrigeration experience who is willing to learn how to repair coffee & grinding equipment.

You will need great communication skills and be able to provide a high level of customer service. You'll need solid computer skills (we're a Mac based company). Experience with iPads and iPhones a plus!

We need someone who is willing to be on the road working some long days including evenings, weekends and holidays as we are a 24 X 7 company.

Preferred requirement
o Experience with espresso machine, coffee brewer and coffee grinder repair - familiarity with BUNN equipment a HUGE PLUS!
o Experience in restaurant equipment repair up to and including refrigeration with current certifications a HUGE PLUS!.
o Need to be able to use a multimeter to test line and low voltage AC, low voltage DC, test capacitors and use an amp clamp.
o Need to be able to read water and electrical schematics.
You'll need to have a good driving record and clear security background check.

Please send us your resume in WORD format ALONG WITH a cover letter convincing us that you are the right candidate, and be prepared to participate in a multi-level interview process.

Hours could involve mid to evening shifts, as we are developing a 2nd shift. •Location: SEA Metro Area
Compensation: $16 - $24/hr DOE

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john

14 months ago

Frank in Naples, Florida said: I've read many of the posts here and can relate to most of them as I have been in the trade all my life, from busting tires to managing shops. The thing that I see missing here are SOLUTIONS. So I'll throw in my 2 cents. Please keep in mind that I hate Govt regulation. 1- State saftey inspection and emmission testing, EVERYWHERE. 2- NO MORE PARTS STORES DOING CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DIAG AND A/C TOP OFFS IN THE PARKING LOT. 3- IF YOU ARENT CERTIFIED FOR IT, YOU DONT TOUCH IT (no more lube techs doing brake jobs) 4- NO CERTIFICATION, NO BRAKE, A/C, STEERING OR SUSPENSION PARTS FOR YOU, Mr "Do it yourselfer" If you think you can tune it yourself and it runs poorly and fails an emission test, bring it to a PROFESSIONAL. Everyone knows that for most services that require a skill such as electrician , contractor, TRUCK DRIVER , are regulated. Thats why a CDL driver usually makes more than a truck mechanic WITH A REQUIRED CDL . These changes would increase car count, increse saftey (we've all seen the botched do it yourself brake job an wondered how no one was killed). It would also reduce pollution and most importantly for those not happy with the reward for thier effort it would weed out the hacks which would leave the GOOD, PROFESSIONAL TECHS HOLDING THE ACES WHEN IT COME TIME TO NEGOTIATE PAY. Just a thought......

As soon as these dirtballs find a Mexican your gone!

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john

14 months ago

The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

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john

14 months ago

john said: The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

All the little punks wanted to do was cut me down because it made them look bad and management think they could screw me out of time because they thought I could afford it.The exact opposite of when it used to be a noble profession and a job done by men.

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john

14 months ago

None of you dummies have a clue what these dealer associations and independent little groups are doing behind your backs.It is absolutely illegal and against your civil rights and you are all to stupid to do anything except cry like babies.If a job isn't paying don't do it and demand at least 40% or it aint worth it!

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john

14 months ago

General laborers are making more money without any investment into tools or schooling.How did it ever get this bad?Because you are a puss.

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john

14 months ago

john said: The last dealer I worked at I worked next to three A.S.E. masters averaging 40% production riding a 75% guarantee sucking all the gravy to keep their production up.I hit a 150% like clock work doing all the stuff everybody else didn't want.The whole business is upside down and you all are idiots!It used to be 50/50 and drived completion.If you couldn't cut it you were gone or went broke because someone ate your lunch.Now everything is about stupid A.S.E.'s they don't mean shlt.The only thing that draws talented people is money and they aint paying it!

The part that ticked me off the most about that job was the punks should have been hitting a 100% but they were screwed on their times.

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john

14 months ago

Install gutters like a low tech dummy and make twice as much as you do wrenching with 50k tools in your box.
LeafGuard is one of the largest, privately owned, home improvement companies in the Nation, with over 60 years of experience. We are searching for motivated, confident construction professionals to install our gutters. You must have a high level of technical expertise in the trades and be a positive force in the work place. Candidates will be clean cut and well groomed, have excellent communication skills, be able to pass background check and drug test, and have an insurable driving record. This is truly an unbelievable opportunity for the right individual. Our lead installers make between $60K and $90K. This is a long term career position, with room to advance. If you have a high level of construction experience, we can teach you the finer-points of our installation business. Some of our best installers are carpenters, sheet metal workers, millwrights and roofing installers. You must be willing to work weekends

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john

14 months ago

If you are a journeyman doing general repair(2 years or more)experience you should expect 40% of the shop labor rate and fully certified master,trans or diesel specialist should expect 50%.Every dealer in the country is looking and they are all playing games.

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john

14 months ago

I wished I could post charts but the salary index for dealer techs is going straight down when it should be going up.I can't believe how stupid everyone is!

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john

14 months ago

Got to SalaryExpert.com check out fruit picker salaries between 16-25k for what?3 or 4 months if that.A lot of you meatheads don't make that in 12 months!

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john

14 months ago

john said: Got to SalaryExpert.com check out fruit picker salaries between 16-25k for what?3 or 4 months if that.A lot of you meatheads don't make that in 12 months!

Average auto tech salary in a dealer is 36k for 12 months of busting your ass and pulling your hair out.

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john

14 months ago

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john

14 months ago

john said: www.indeed.com/salary/q-Chevrolet-Technician-l-Lanham ,-MD.html

14% higher than average

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john

14 months ago

john said: 14% higher than average

I have been doing it for 30 years and I would eat your lunch!

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john

14 months ago

john said: I have been doing it for 30 years and I would eat your lunch!

Rookie!

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john

14 months ago

In one particular dealer they had one guy walking around all day with his time card in his hand doing front end work that did 200k easy while five guys in the back doing warranty Northstar bedplates and Duramax head gaskets for like 30k.There is no comparison.

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john

14 months ago

They have to have a couple primadonnas up front actually making a living to poke fun at the guys doing the real work in the back.It works kind of like a carrot on a string.

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john

14 months ago

This was cut from an email I just received from a Service Manager(factual and the truth)He emailed me about a job and I explained that came came from a different time and place.He responded back rather nasty this is just a small part."Your right about your reference to "Time Disputes" and the 50%, 60%, 40% pay structures, this practice has not been in use for over 20yrs!"I responded back and said you're right we have been getting screwed for over 20 years.Just happened today!

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Mikex1021

14 months ago

I actually dont remember the last time i did a flush or brake job. All i do is heavy line and diesel. And the guys that cry and complain about the guys doing all the gravy, 99.9% of the time are the premadonnas.

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old mechanic in Atlanta, Georgia

14 months ago

Guys, when everyone stops degrading his fellow craftsman and starts working together toward a common goal of improving the conditions, everything for the profession will change.

You don't see lawyers, doctors, judges or even their organizations or supervising agencies like the Judicial Qualifications Commission or Bar associations cutting each other down. Heck even politicians fall in that group.

So why do you do it? To make yourself feel better. To explain to yourself why you are not making the money, or have the lifestyle you should?

If you really must attack some part of the auto industry, then attack this new R1234yf refrigerant that Dupont and Honeywell have engineered that is literally putting your life at risk as well as your career

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john

14 months ago

Mikex1021 said: I actually dont remember the last time i did a flush or brake job. All i do is heavy line and diesel. And the guys that cry and complain about the guys doing all the gravy, 99.9% of the time are the premadonnas.

You have a big arrogant mouth.I routinely hit 300% but most of the guys work plenty hard enough to get 100% but only get 50%.They have pushed the average tech wage down to near fruit picker levels.Your days are numbered anyway put that in your diary.You need to put your money where your mouth is at bigshot.Average dealer tech salary is 35k look it up and all the charts have steadily been going down as the technology and shortages increase.That means the wages should be going up and you are not smart enough to argue with me.

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