Do You Have Enough Work At The Job To Make Good Money Getting Paid Flat Rate

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Dice in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

64 months ago

In a few months i am about to start Community College to become a auto tech and be certified and all 8 areas.I was doing resource and i stumbled onto this site.I heard alot of mix opinions on this line of work.(i understand that doing the same job for years is always stressing on a person)So i can understand why some of you might not like it.But i heard some people say they make 45-60 and even up to 75 working flat rate if they bust there butt(which is not all bad to me).I just want to know if jobs have a steady flow of work coming in.So i could make 40-50 hr a week if i work hard.I want to be sure that this job is not like a pack of wolves fight over a piece of meat (in this a case work).Is there enough work to work hard and get paid right or is there little work and the only way to make a living is to fight like an animal to steal work form one another.

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bill gugino in Grand Island, New York

64 months ago

I have worked flat rate and it is a pack of wolves guys fighting over gravy orders, also if your dispatcher is not on your side you will never see anything but warranty and the times are much lower and harder to make money.

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lkance in Tinley Park, Illinois

63 months ago

do not get in the mechanics business i have had a new job every 3 years for the last 25 years trust me

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A. L. in Sun City Center, Florida

59 months ago

Dice in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: In a few months i am about to start Community College to become a auto tech and be certified and all 8 areas.I was doing resource and i stumbled onto this site.I heard alot of mix opinions on this line of work.(i understand that doing the same job for years is always stressing on a person)So i can understand why some of you might not like it.But i heard some people say they make 45-60 and even up to 75 working flat rate if they bust there butt(which is not all bad to me).I just want to know if jobs have a steady flow of work coming in.So i could make 40-50 hr a week if i work hard.I want to be sure that this job is not like a pack of wolves fight over a piece of meat (in this a case work).Is there enough work to work hard and get paid right or is there little work and the only way to make a living is to fight like an animal to steal work form one another.

down here in Florida at a so called busy kia dealer the last 6 months I worked I probally played video games for about 4-5 hours a day just to keep myself from falling asleep on my toolbox. The only 2 out of the 8 tecs there that got any work was the shop brownnoser and the hourly mexican kid hat got all the pdi's. FLATE RATE IS BROKEN don't work without a guarantee
Best bet look into a differn't trade before u waste your time

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chris in Laconia, New Hampshire

55 months ago

Dice in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: In a few months i am about to start Community College to become a auto tech and be certified and all 8 areas.I was doing resource and i stumbled onto this site.I heard alot of mix opinions on this line of work.(i understand that doing the same job for years is always stressing on a person)So i can understand why some of you might not like it.But i heard some people say they make 45-60 and even up to 75 working flat rate if they bust there butt(which is not all bad to me).I just want to know if jobs have a steady flow of work coming in.So i could make 40-50 hr a week if i work hard.I want to be sure that this job is not like a pack of wolves fight over a piece of meat (in this a case work).Is there enough work to work hard and get paid right or is there little work and the only way to make a living is to fight like an animal to steal work form one another.

do not waste you time, the industry is too corrupt, i have been a diag specialist for 5 yrs and hae moved to the top in ranks for collage and special taring, i will say i have nothing to show for it, im now getting into law enforcement so i can retire in 20 yrs and be able to survive, so long and short , dont waste your money and time on working to make someone else rich/

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Sad Tech in Wakefield, Massachusetts

51 months ago

It is pretty sad this career has gone down the tubes. The flat rate pay system is still here when I was told 15 years ago that it was going away. With the plethora of technology integrated into today's vehicles this pay system is a joke and out of date. This system has not changed since the first automobiles rolled off the assembly line of Henry Fords first plant. Why? because it ensures the dealers and car manufactures make a profit and the technician and customers lose. This system only rewards quantity not quality. You cannot do quality, honest work under this system. If your interests include electronics diagnostics and troubleshooting then you will surley be poorly compensated. What is wrong with paying a technician a decent salary for decent work? This is not a career you can grow old in. How many techs do you see in the field over 50? I use to love being the troubleshooter and doing quality work but you quickly realize the automotive dealers are purely about profit. The stereotype is also here to stay. The flat rate pay system ensures this by forcing technicians to beat the clock to make money which is only done by cutting corners and quality. This turns technicians against one another, each seeking the "gravy" jobs. It shouldn't be about this.The customer ultimatley loses with bogus upsells and shoddy workmanship. No matter how you "sugar coat" it, you are regarded as a no talent grease monkey by the managers, customers and general public.Sorry but it's true! Do yourself a favor and take a job in a different career. I wish I could take all the years back that I put into this field and have a "do over". I would never have chosen this career path if I knew it would always be like this. With the talents and training required in this field you can apply them to many other careers that will compensate you better and give you a better oppurtunity to do quality, respectable work. It may sound harsh but the truth hurts. Think about it.

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Dan in Mentor, Ohio

51 months ago

I agree with you completely. After being in this field for 30 years, I hope to never have to do this kind of work again. I have been laid off for 6 months and continue to hold my ground to not wrench again. I am bitter just like you.

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Luigi in Darby, Pennsylvania

50 months ago

lol wow ! I agree with mostly everyone in this forum. Bein a flat rate tech myself for about 5 yrs, i was always fighting for the next job..... I wish I had never gone into this field period !! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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Diddoright in Mcdonough, Georgia

48 months ago

hEY , YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THE SAME THINGS

MEDICAL DOCTORS ARE SAYING , GET A GRIP !

WHAT WE DO IS WORTH $100. BUCKS AN HOUR.

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Hyundaitech in Denver, Colorado

47 months ago

Depends on a lot of factors. How many units are in service in your area? How many repair facilities service (or can service) those units. How well respected is your repair facility? How many of those units know of your facility? How many mouths are there to feed in your shop? I work at a reputable dealer in a major metropolitan area and often see 30 hour weeks-and we only have 6 techs (two of which are apprentices!)-we also have 4 other dealers in a 15 mile radius not to mention independents. I make an above average flat rate and still struggle to make bills some months. You should expect as a rule it is either feast or famine. Some days we service 40 plus vehicles, other days 10. As a master certified tech with 8 years experience in my line I wouldn't advise against joining the industry; I would advise against expecting to make 80k a year and work in the field until you retire. Some guys can pull 70k plus a year, but they also work 60 hour weeks on luxury lines and generally have seniority when work is dispatched. Not a bad skill to have though, just avoid the expensive toolbox until you know if the job is for you.

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Miles Vinciguerra in Cumberland, Rhode Island

35 months ago

Im a 16 year old kid in high school and wanting to become a auto mechanic, its just awesome how cars runa and despite little exp. I think that being one would be an awesome thing, and plus my gf loves the smell of gas ;) But what you huys are saying makes me think twice... what should I do? :/ Please Help a young kid out :/

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Dog in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

31 months ago

One big issue is that the car manufacturers are stealing from the technician so hat they can keep their profits margins high. They have you coerced into repairing a car for their predetermined amount of flat rate time, which is never enough to actually pay you for the time it will take you to do the job and they know it. So, in essense, they are stealing from you because they are demanding that you do the repair, for lack of a better way to say it, off the clock, even though there is no clock persay. That is theft. Theft of your valuable time taht you need to care for your family. They are digging into your pocket and taking money out for their own pockets. That makes them thieves. So, in a dealership, you are working for thieves.

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Dog in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

31 months ago

Oh, and additionally. They keep coming up with another step you have to take to get clearance to do the job. They make you fill out this form and that form, go to a department head to get signed off for authroization t make a warranty repair, then, you have to contact the manufacturer to get an approval code all before you can do the repair that you are already losing money on because there wasn't enough time to pay you to begin with. And all these additional requirements don't fix the car or change what's wrong with it, they just slow you down with this or that "one more thing," you have to do. We are being "one more thinged" to death! on top of being starved out of the business all by the manufacturere. And then the manufacturer laments why they can't find qualified techs? Amazing.
BTW, I have been in this business for 25 years, am a Ford certified Senior Master Technician. But I am working on getting out. At this point in my life, it's hard to do, but starting over in another field seems to be better than trying to bail the water out of this sinking ship with a tablespoon.

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Joe in Richmond N.H in Brooklyn, New York

23 months ago

If you want to get into this line of work be prepared to not get alot of thank you's ,as it is a thankless line of work. I have been an auto technician since 1985 and worked flat rate for 18 years. I stopped working on a dealership level and moved to an independant repair shop and I get paid hourly. They have an incentive plan that basically pays you $3.00 for every hour you make over an 8 hour day. So if you show them 9 hours of production you get 300 pennys yippie! They constantly are shorting the times and simultaniously shooting themselves in the foot because it lowers morale and no one wants to produce work when they are pissed off on a daily basis. Maybe when flat rate goes away the full service gas stations will come back and someone will come out and check your oil for you when you fill up your tank. Hey what a great idea!

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Bill in Grand Island, New York

13 months ago

Sad Tech in Wakefield, Massachusetts said: It is pretty sad this career has gone down the tubes. The flat rate pay system is still here when I was told 15 years ago that it was going away. With the plethora of technology integrated into today's vehicles this pay system is a joke and out of date. This system has not changed since the first automobiles rolled off the assembly line of Henry Fords first plant. Why? because it ensures the dealers and car manufactures make a profit and the technician and customers lose. This system only rewards quantity not quality. You cannot do quality, honest work under this system. If your interests include electronics diagnostics and troubleshooting then you will surley be poorly compensated. What is wrong with paying a technician a decent salary for decent work? This is not a career you can grow old in. How many techs do you see in the field over 50? I use to love being the troubleshooter and doing quality work but you quickly realize the automotive dealers are purely about profit. The stereotype is also here to stay. The flat rate pay system ensures this by forcing technicians to beat the clock to make money which is only done by cutting corners and quality. This turns technicians against one another, each seeking the "gravy" jobs. It shouldn't be about this.The customer ultimatley loses with bogus upsells and shoddy workmanship. No matter how you "sugar coat" it, you are regarded as a no talent grease monkey by the managers, customers and general public.Sorry but it's true! Do yourself a favor and take a job in a different career. I wish I could take all the years back that I put into this field and have a "do over". I would never have chosen this career path if I knew it would always be like this. With the talents and training required in this field you can apply them to many other careers that will compensate you better and give you a better oppurtunity to do quality, respectable work. It may sound harsh but the truth hur

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