job opportunities as a CRA |
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sunil in Brampton, Ontario 9 months ago |
Dear,
thanks |
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Burned Out in Spokane, Washington 6 months ago |
Hello Sunil, The future of the CRA/ site monitor occupation may be different in Canada than in the USA. Here in the USA the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have not been impressed with the quality of monitoring at investigational research sites since 1999. They have recently indicated that the quality of monitoring of clinical research sites is steadily declining. The FDA believes this may be happening because the rapid turn over and burn out rate of CRAs is less than 2 years. This means the industry is constantly replacing CRAs who have some experience with new and inexperienced CRAs. Hence, the CRA workforce is largly comprised of people who have a heartbeat instead of people who are skilled which keeps the quality of site monitoring low. I am telling you this because if the FDA should ever really take control of how clinical research sites are monitored in the USA, then, there will be major changes in the occupation of a CRA here in the states. But in Canada, doesn't the Ministry of Health oversee the quality of monitoring? |
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Chris R in Phoenix, Arizona 6 months ago |
by rapid turn over and burn out rate what exactly do you mean? people getting tired of traveling so much? |
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kev in Brooklyn, New York 6 months ago |
Chris R in Phoenix, Arizona said: by rapid turn over and burn out rate what exactly do you mean? people getting tired of traveling so much? repetitive work..think as a paper work sweatshop labor in a cubicle only that this cubicle is different everyday and at a different site and yes, the traveling is ok at first, but once you get a family, it becomes difficult. most cras hired these days are all previous bio majors who decided to not persue medschool or postpone it...after 2 year or so, most of these cra feel they have enough exposer to help their med school app...thus they leave for a better future or to other companies with higher wages thus the high turnover rate...theres a reason why CROs are always looking for new CRAs |
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Burned Out in Spokane, Washington 6 months ago |
Chris R in Phoenix, Arizona said: by rapid turn over and burn out rate what exactly do you mean? people getting tired of traveling so much? Hello Chris R,
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Chris R in Phoenix, Arizona 6 months ago |
Are these issues becoming more prevalent now or have they always been part of a CRA's work? Is the work done at the sites just incredibly repetitive and mundane? What sort of "impossible production expectations" do you have to deal with? Appreciate the input |
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Burned Out in Spokane, Washington 6 months ago |
Dear Chris, The issues are becoming more prevalent because the CROs have been allowed to "define" the roles of the CRA. Like nurses, CRAs need to somehow find the power to redefine the job. CROs are increasing in numbers so the problems will continue to get worse. As more and more relatively untrained people (some newly trained CRAs)become project mangers who focus on productivity and efficiency ratings instead of the "intent" of the law the problems will increase. Drug companies want to be the first to get their product to market. CROs sell their services to drug companies by proposing they can be the fastest and least costly service. Ultimately, it is the CRA that is paying for the price for trying to comply with the CRO marketing of fast and cheap service. At this time there is no associations, or federal agencies that will stop it.
By the way, a well kept secret is that study project managers at CROs are paid large incentives, in addition to their paychecks, for meeting very tight timelines and for making sure the projects are completed within the study budget. Due to these very large monetary incentives, project managers are very keen on tracking the efficiency ratings of CRAs. They will push us to beyond full-speed to get their incentives. Ultimately, the rush to complete clinical research trials means that more and more bad drugs are being approved by the FDA and more and more patients are being hurt or die. It used to be very rare that an FDA drug marketing approval would be revoked. However, it is now a very common place occurrence. I am not against making money, however, it should not replace quality. I admire nurses for being able to elevate their jobs to a more respected occupation. However, it took them much work and time to make changes. |
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Chris R in Phoenix, Arizona 6 months ago |
Very interesting... I really had no idea that the CRA position is a stepping stone to being a project manager, whatever else... How long does it typically take to advance from a CRA position? |
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shruthi,pune in London, United Kingdom 5 months ago |
Hello,
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Heather in Spokane, Washington 4 months ago |
Hi Just a thought...
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EHT in New York, New York 4 months ago |
It is not nonsense. It is the truth. People who are NOT used to the travel, can get burned out. It is not about complaining, just giving a correct depiction of how this industry CAN be and what you MAY be in for. Everyone has their own experiences and own dificulties, so just becuause you THINK it is so, does not mean it would be the same for everyone. I know tons of CRAs who have 30 some sites and spread across therapeutic areas in several states, so if they feel like whining, who the hell are you to say they shouldn't? It is a stupid thing to say that people 'whine' about the truth of this industry. You do get burned out if you travel all the time. Plain and simple. You mentioned...'The lazy and the weak'... very broad term here. So - you are saying what exactly - that those who meet 'your generation X definition' should all work at Starbucks - is this an official endorsement? Oh, I get it, that if a CRA complains in the slightest that the travel is getting to them, then they are 'weak' and should look for other jobs and question their capabilities in their profession? All because they complain about traveling.. hummm.. you have a very weak argument here sister. I am surprised that 13 years in the industry did not breed you a better attitude. |
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Burned Out in Spokane 4 months ago |
This is to Heather in Spokane, From your comments it is hard to believe that you have been a CRA for 13 years and have been successful. Part of the job of a good CRA is to get along with other people and your post did not demonstrate that you are able to do accomodate the views of other people. You actually sound more like a pharmaceutical sales rep or a coordinator that has recently become a CRA. If you had been reading the recent articles and (old articles) during your 13 year tenure you would know CRA burnout is worsening. The burnout rate is quite profound -travel is just part of the problem. However, as travel becomes more difficult it increases the burnout rate. I am in your age group so don't tell me that everyone in your age group (peers) are doing fine. I remember being able to go to a site and adequately monitor to ensure subject welfare, the integrity of the data, and the progress of the study. The job has gotten more than tough - it has become almost impossible to do everything required in a limited amount of time.
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Marco in Hopewell, New Jersey 3 months ago |
I am about to be hired as a CRA for a major CRO. Quick Question: The traveling req'd is 80%. Can i expect to fly out on Monday and be back by Thrusday evening. (Please don't bash me. I'm a newb looking for info. I got really lucky and landed this job) |
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xtian in Nantes, France 3 months ago |
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Yves in Calgary, Alberta 1 month ago |
Hi Burned out, Thanks for sharing your industrial experiences I found it very helpful for those who intend to go into this field. I recently completed a PhD in pharmaceutical Sci and are thinking a career change, possibly CRA. However, after reading your comments about the current situation, I can't help worrying if becoming CRA is a right thing to do. What are other career options for CRA if they wish to make a career change? Is it possible for CRA to move to FDA for policy making or for CRA to participate in an instituational review board? Can you also share what is the difference working under CRO, contract or hired by big pharma? Any advice is appreciated! |
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Yves in Calgary, Alberta 1 month ago |
Hi Burned out, Thanks for sharing your industrial experiences I found it very helpful for those who intend to go into this field. I recently completed a PhD in pharmaceutical Sci and are thinking a career change, possibly CRA. However, after reading your comments about the current situation, I can't help worrying if becoming CRA is a right thing to do. What are other career options for CRA if they wish to make a career change? Is it possible for CRA to move to FDA for policy making or for CRA to participate in an instituational review board? Can you also share what is the difference working under CRO, contract or hired by big pharma? Any advice is appreciated! |
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Ava in Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri 1 month ago |
Seeking advice! I am an RN and DVM in a country in Europe, currently I live in the US. Want to become a CRA. What are the possibilities and where you will advice to try since everybody wants experience ?! I heard they are companies that hire and educate you but you sign a 2 year contract. Any ideas ? Please, I need more concrete advices, Thank You ! |
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