CRA Training - Schools in Canada?

Alam in Brampton, Ontario said: your master will give you equivalent of b.sc. in canada and then you can plan ahead from there.

Hi are you doing some masters degree in ontario??if ye may i knw frm whr if you dont mind.....

sharon in Mississauga, Ontario said: Hi are you doing some masters degree in ontario??if ye may i knw frm whr if you dont mind.....

No, but i thought about it and almost took the plunge but in the end it didnt make much sense to me because even after getting yours masters getting your first job is just as hard. I am starting the cra course at humber and this tuesday is my orientation.

Tamara in Toronto, Ontario said: Hi Lisa,
Yes, I’m a graduate from Humber.
I was actually looking for a possibility of getting a higher education in the clinical research field in Canada, like MSc or PhD, and have found none.
The highest is in Humber, because it’s a POSTgraduate program.
The program is very good, and I know that they are improving constantly.
A lot of CROs and pharm companies, who after having experience working with our grads, are happy to hire them, sometimes even skipping the internship.

thanks for your help tamara. I just have a question then regarding the co-op part. Is there a list of companies that you have to choose from or do you look for your own placements?

Hi Sharon,
I completed my CRA course from Kriger in $2000 and I am currently pursuing my MBA as I was not able to get a job even after scoring 94%. I think the best way to get a job in CRA is to get a hands on training.

lisa in Pickering, Ontario said: thanks for your help tamara. I just have a question then regarding the co-op part. Is there a list of companies that you have to choose from or do you look for your own placements?

Hi Lisa,
They will contact pharms & CROs (each year the list is getting longer). Then the potential employer, who is interested in taking the intern(s), will review all the resumes and select 4 to 6 of them for the interview. The rest is up to you. Humber tries to provide you with at least 3 interviews, and in addition, you are free to find a placement by yourself to increase your chances of getting a job.

Hello Everyone,
I would like to to know if some one can give me an advice regarding CRA training for persons that are outsite Canada. Do you know the requierements in order to study for CRA trainig? I have 1.8 years in clinical trails as CRA in my country (latin america)

Oh are dere admissions going on still in humber for CR??Can i tke it nw or I will be getinh it next year??Hey but if you read sme students comments here,dey find it difficult to get job evn aftr CR....Anywyz best of luck for ur course....

Alam in Brampton, Ontario said: No, but i thought about it and almost took the plunge but in the end it didnt make much sense to me because even after getting yours masters getting your first job is just as hard. I am starting the cra course at humber and this tuesday is my orientation.

Oh are dere admissions going on still in humber for CR??Can i tke it nw or I will be getinh it next year??Hey but if you read sme students comments here,dey find it difficult to get job evn aftr CR....Anywyz best of luck for ur course....

Sanghamitra in Jersey City, New Jersey said: Hi Sharon,
I completed my CRA course from Kriger in $2000 and I am currently pursuing my MBA as I was not able to get a job even after scoring 94%. I think the best way to get a job in CRA is to get a hands on training.

hI.THNKS FOR SUGESTING...U hve a good score..Keep on trying or job..all d best..n I hve heard dat humber in Toronto gives hands on training ..so thot of applying der.....

sharon in Mississauga, Ontario said: Oh are dere admissions going on still in humber for CR??Can i tke it nw or I will be getinh it next year??Hey but if you read sme students comments here,dey find it difficult to get job evn aftr CR....Anywyz best of luck for ur course....

No admission are closed for this year, you can only apply for next year, and no comments about the comments.

Hello everybody,

Does anyone know Medical Research Management Inc..They provide CRA courses: first part-on line, second- hand-on training at different locations across the US.
I have to decide asap, because there is deadline for hand-on training.

Thank you.
Olga.

high unemployment in MRM, people cannot get job

And VERY high fees.

does anyone have experience with Michener institute as far as program (clinical reserch) usefulness and employability after certification. I am trying to decide between Michener and Humber

AnaS in Mississauga, Ontario said: And VERY high fees.

What about quality of this MRM training?
All courses are expensive.

renea m in Toronto, Ontario said: does anyone have experience with Michener institute as far as program (clinical reserch) usefulness and employability after certification. I am trying to decide between Michener and Humber

I know a few people who are working as cra's and have that certification. Out of all the online courses i think its probably the only one that has some weightage in the industry.

Alam in Brampton, Ontario said: No, but i thought about it and almost took the plunge but in the end it didnt make much sense to me because even after getting yours masters getting your first job is just as hard. I am starting the cra course at humber and this tuesday is my orientation.

Hi Alam..Is dere any cut off percentage for admission in humber for CR??I mean do dey have any eligibility creteria for admission regarding marks in bachelors degree??I basically wanna knw is dat I hve done my bachelors degree fro India,so will I be eligible for admission?

sharon in Mississauga, Ontario said: Hi Alam..Is dere any cut off percentage for admission in humber for CR??I mean do dey have any eligibility creteria for admission regarding marks in bachelors degree??I basically wanna knw is dat I hve done my bachelors degree fro India,so will I be eligible for admission?

I have also done my m.sc. in biotechnology from india so i dont see any reason why that would be a problem as long as you have passed the required courses. Then there is also the written test and the interview.

Hi Alam,

I have completed my M.S. in pharma from US and planning to settle down in Ontario. Could you please tell me the job market there. if possible could you please send ur email id.

thanks

Sumit Kumar in Plainsboro, New Jersey said: Hi Alam,

I have completed my M.S. in pharma from US and planning to settle down in Ontario. Could you please tell me the job market there. if possible could you please send ur email id.

thanks

Hi Sumit,

I am afraid i wont be of much help to you, all i have figured out so far is that without canadian experience nobody hires you, doesnt matter how much of non-canadian education or work experience you have. Thats the only reason i am going for the cra course at humber. Maybe by next year ill be able to answer this for, for now ill leave this question open for people who are actually working in the industry.

sharon in Mississauga, Ontario said: Hey alam I hve also done my m.s in biotechnology from india n hve jus recently moved to canada.Good to hear dat frm you too.I hev also surveyed a lot dat without canadian education n experience nobody hire s you here.Thnkx for d info abt humber n i wanted to knw dat did humber college evaluated your degrees from India for admission in CRA or you planned out smthng yourself???

If you want you can get your education evaluation done by either of the three places here, one is wes second is through the comparative education of university of toronto, third one i dont remember. The evaluation done through them is accepted by most places. but heres the catch, you application for humber goes through ocas and they have to do their own evaluation as they dont accept any of these. basically they just want your money so i think if you only want to apply for humber dont get it evaluated from anywhere just apply through ocas and then ask your university to forward your official transcripts in a sealed and envelope to ocas. thats pretty much it for your education evaluation. also the ocas evaluation is around $100 which is cheaper compared to wes which is around $200.

Does anybody know the CRA program in American Inst of Pharmaceutical Technology?

Thank you.

Yes they have so many graduate as CRA with MS, Ph.D and MD too
I recommand best job placement rate in USA

There is no use of any trainingof CRA unless n untill u dont get any training in that. In USA nobody will consider ur education if u dont have a US exp.

Urmila in Toronto, Ontario said: Hello Paritosh,
The course in Humber college is QA.Just thought I'd let you know.
Are you in Toronto and did you do your courses at Humber or Seneca?

Regards,
Urmila

hi
i have done my post graduate diploma in clinical trial management in India. i would like to know how the job oppurtunities are for me in canada.
thanx.
surekha

Tamara in Toronto, Ontario said: As I know, in Toronto & Montreal HUNDREDS of CRAs are looking for a job. Vancouver & Edmonton (Alberta) are better places, much more opened positions, they grow up in clin res field very dramatically over the past few years.

Hello Tamara,

I did not imagine that situation with employment is so critical. On the college website the employment rate is stated to be "close to 100%". Or the majority of these jobseekers are from other institutions?

For you further career in Clinica Research I think it would be good to proceed with MS in epidemiology in London School of Hygiene and Public Health - it is the best one and they have online courses

Good luck

Sergei in Holmestrand, Norway said: Hello Tamara,

I did not imagine that situation with employment is so critical. On the college website the employment rate is stated to be "close to 100%". Or the majority of these jobseekers are from other institutions?

Actually, we were talking about the situation in the field in general. That’s why those, who have education and experience, have better chances.

Sergei in Holmestrand, Norway said: For you further career in Clinica Research I think it would be good to proceed with MS in epidemiology in London School of Hygiene and Public Health - it is the best one and they have online courses

Thanks, but I was looking for MS program in Canada (1) and Clinical Research (2).
By the way there are many of such programs in US:
www.aamc.org/research/clinicalresearch/training/start.htm

P.S. Do we know each other?

Actually, we were talking about the situation in the field in general.

Understood. And how do you evaluate the chances of Humber graduate? Is it really close to 100%?

P.S. Do we know each other?

No, I was just reading the entire topic and came across the issue that you raised about the MS program. A while ago I spoke to some people in clinical research in Canada who indeed value this MS epi course from Londom school since it uses same tools, methods etc... and gives some extra chances for future career. And this is online course that can be done from any location. I was thinking of taking it, but unfortunately it is too costly - almost 20K. Also thinking about this program in Humber.

Clin.Res in Ottawa, Ontario said: Hello Everyone,

I am graduating with a MSc. degree in Biochemistry with alot of basic research experience. But in the last year, I have been reading lots of books about clinical research and networking with CRAs in the hospital where our lab is. However, I have noticed that most people are looking to hire nurses(RN) as CRA and not people with MSc. Has anyone else noticed that.

I am not against nursing or anything, but dont nurses have enough on their hands looking after patients that now they have to do the bureaucratic and regulatory work too.

I am also wondering if anyone with MSc. or BSc. had an issue with loosing a job competition/pay raise/or a promotion in clinical research whether in pharma or hospital to a RN just because they had the degree. Please share your stories.
Thanks

I couldn't believe your statement. Nurses are recruited for their strong clinical back ground. You must be living in isolation if you haven't come to realize that the nursing profession has progressed far beyond the bedside. Perhaps you just didn't qualify for the position

hi
i finished my clinical trial management course and would like to know the job opputunities in australia for the same. if u know pls reply as any information will be very helpful to me.
thanx

raj in New York, New York said: kriger donot have any familiarity in USA. and also online is click and drop. not much informative. you should try campus base in USA like www.aiptedu.com
i got trained their and working in fortune 50 company.

hi
yeah but i live in toronto
thanx for de info anyways

Jane in Scarborough, Ontario said: hey guys
need advice...planning to do my online course with Kriger,will it make it bad to worse for me to find a job as its an online course n its not a Canadian based company,more over i am a dentist with qualification from overseas hence no CRA experience:(....pleez help

Hello, Jane in Scarborough, If you're a Dentist why would you want CRA when you can be a PI for pharmaceutical companies you should contact them and let them know you're interested in doing clinical research for them. Those companies will give you the training you need for free. That if your a dentist and have a office to work out of. You do not need CRA you need PI

Michelle in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: Hello, Jane in Scarborough, If you're a Dentist why would you want CRA when you can be a PI for pharmaceutical companies you should contact them and let them know you're interested in doing clinical research for them. Those companies will give you the training you need for free. That if your a dentist and have a office to work out of. You do not need CRA you need PI

Hey Michelle that was informative....will have a look at that.thanx:)

Hi Michelle
PI is Pharmaceutical Inspector rt,i took a look n the salaries are really low and hardly need any qualification for that.

Jane in Scarborough, Ontario said: Hi Michelle
PI is Pharmaceutical Inspector rt,i took a look n the salaries are really low and hardly need any qualification for that.

No! PI in research means PRINCIPLE INVESTIGATOR which means one who heads up a clinical study.

ohhh cool okay will browse n chk
cheers

Michelle in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: No! PI in research means PRINCIPLE INVESTIGATOR which means one who heads up a clinical study.

I am a physician with MBA, I want to start my own business in clinical research. Any experience in this area, I need some guidence

KP

Kamlesh in Little Rock, Arkansas said: I am a physician with MBA, I want to start my own business in clinical research. Any experience in this area, I need some guidence

KP

Hello, Kamlesh in Little Rock. You need to figure out was area you want to specialize in and contact the maker of that medication. You also need to go to centerwatch.org and the FDA website and read up on the regulartory part of research. Research is not just about the money it's more than seeing patients you have the know the FDA REGS. Most pharmaceutical companies will assign you a monitor and it's the job of the monitor to make sure you are compliant with the study. Just to give you a some insight. I worked on a study for a pharmacy co. I enrolled 22 patients with 15 visits each. The study lasted for 2years we received 18,000 per pt. you do the math. Less then 30% of the 18,000 went to labs ect. the rest went into the clinic I worked for. I hope this will help a little.

Thanks, My interests are Oncology, Cardiology and Neuropsych areas. I can do Clinical medicine as well as Nuclear Medicine( Molecular Imaging). My work habits are very methodical and I have a good knowlegde of Statistics. My question is, to start a new company do you have to meet any regulatory requirements? Who is the first point of contact.

Thanks

KP

Kamlesh in Little Rock, Arkansas said: Thanks, My interests are Oncology, Cardiology and Neuropsych areas. I can do Clinical medicine as well as Nuclear Medicine( Molecular Imaging). My work habits are very methodical and I have a good knowlegde of Statistics. My question is, to start a new company do you have to meet any regulatory requirements? Who is the first point of contact.

Thanks

KP

Yes, there's regulatory requirements you have to meet. Thats what the pharmaceutical company is there for. Oncology is really big in the US. Go to www.centerwatch.org and look through their website also go to the NIH website. contact the maker of the medicine you write scripts for. Talk to the drug reps ask if there company does research. Just to let you know drug reps are to have nothing to do with research but just ask and maybe they can guide you in the right direction. I hope this information help you. I also hope you really interested in research which is finding the cure and not just the money.

you may contact to following person for possible working relation or partnetship. they are in same field clinical research field
dr. geecee pat
aipt@usa.com

Hi Cory,
Thanks for all of your pros and cons and your suggestions. Are you working right now?

SARA in Mississauga, Ontario said: ok ok ok if u all cheated by kriger then why u don't complain about them to education authority because then u help and safe lots of other people.As a responsible citizen u all must complain about them .thats what i think

I agree with you.

hi guys,,is der anyone hre who is working in CR deptt. in Canada???If yes plzz reply..

Hello Guys,
I am interested in CRA. I want to register with kriger. I am a Optometrist. Will it help me find a job after? Pls help.

I have over 2 yrs of experience as a CRA in India. I am aspiring to work in Canada. Can anyone guide me with this? Is it a must to have a valid work permit to apply for any available position? Do you have information on any consultancy which provides assistance with employment in Canada or any sponsor or CRO who will sponsor the candidate?

raj in New York, New York said: kriger is online donot help forthe career, try some hands on or live with professionals like www.aiptedu.com

thanks!

If you have 2 years experience in CRA you need to take the CCRC or CCRA exam which certifies you as a CLINICAL ACRP website to find out when the next exam is. You will find it a lot easier for you to get a research job. If it were me I would go for the CCRA which certifies you for a monitor position.

I can teach you for free.
With one condition:
Then you will work for me FOR FREE for one year
:-)

sam in Toronto, Ontario said: hai tamara
i am ready to work for free for 1 year as cra. plz contact me.