Female Crane Operators/ Riggers? Are there any out there? |
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SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia 24 months ago |
Am curious to know if driving cranes is a career choice women make in the U.S. There is only a few of us in Australia. I'd like to talk with my peers in my industry about our experiences. |
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Dave Kay in Victorville, California 22 months ago |
Hmmmm... well, I'm not exactly one of your "peers" but I've been an operator for 23 yrs and I can say that yes, there are a few females in the crane/rigging business here in The States and some of them do fairly well. But mostly we don't see them sticking around for year after year trying to make careers out of crane work... if that answers your question. |
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SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia 22 months ago |
Thanks Dave. It's the same in Australia. I've been in Industry 12 years now and the few I've met don't last more than a couple of years. I think things will change in the future though. It's a good career choice and good to know that it is starting to be considered by American women as well. |
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Dave Kay in Victorville, California 22 months ago |
You're welcome. The female to male ratio is probably at its lowest right now, meaning there a even less women in cranes, because there is very little work available for ANYONE here in The States. Curious, how is crane work there in Australia? Are you getting steady work, staying employed? |
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SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia 22 months ago |
Yeah work is good. We faired the downturn well thanks to our mining sector. Having said that, for 6 months from March 09, if you were in a job you were unhappy with, you didn't move on. The economy was bad, employers nervous and nobody was employing. I know some top notch riggers that were unemployed for that time as they finished a job in December 08, decided to have a bit of time off, then couldn't get on anywhere. |
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misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana 20 months ago |
Dave Kay in Victorville, California said: Hmmmm... well, I'm not exactly one of your "peers" but I've been an operator for 23 yrs and I can say that yes, there are a few females in the crane/rigging business here in The States and some of them do fairly well. But mostly we don't see them sticking around for year after year trying to make careers out of crane work... if that answers your question. EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. |
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sm.pearce@bigpond.com in Sydney, Australia 20 months ago |
Hi. Great to hear from you. Would like to talk more about your experiences. I too have been in industry 12 years now. Let me know how to contact you. Regards
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misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana 20 months ago |
Hello Sharon. Kinda weird, but I have 12 years experience too. My email is misstaken77@yahoo.com Kelly |
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WEZZEL1 in Andrews, Texas 20 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. O BOO HOO IT'HARD EVERYWAER I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YUO. |
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misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana 20 months ago |
WEZZEL1 in Andrews, Texas said: O BOO HOO IT'HARD EVERYWAER I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YUO. Work with me and I will teach you how to spell |
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Dave Kay in Victorville, California 20 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. Well for one thing, I never said anything about female crane ops 'trying and trying,' that's YOUR line. I simply stated what I have observed, that majority of females don't stick around and make careers in this trade. Why? I can't say. And it seems to me like you've got a need to prove something to someone. But you won't have to bother with me because words are worthless; proof in in performance, female or male. Even years of seat-time can mean little when some old hands I see still cant's catch a hook, but yet, they stick around year after year and somehow manage to make a living. And as far as I'm concerned, ALL crane ops need to work hard for respect because it isn't and shouldn't be handed out like candy. My .02 cents. |
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Amanda B in Norfolk, Virginia 19 months ago |
I am just getting ready to start as an apprentice rigger here in the States & she's absolutely right!! I've worked in other jobs that were male dominated & sometimes it may be your coworkers, but many times it's outsiders. For example I used to work in an auto parts store & was 1 of only 2 females in the whole store. And 99.9% of the men I worked with were great. They respected the women & they taught me a lot. It was the customers though, that you had to prove yourself to! Many would walk in the door & would wait in lines with 10 extra people before coming into your line for help. And I couldn't tell you how many times I've picked up the phone & immediatley the guy on the other end says "I don't want to talk to a girl, get a man on the phone." I actually had a quite a few customers that admittedly didn't think I could help them find the mystery part they were looking for, ecspecially since it was about the 5th time they had been in the store that day & noone before helped, but it was either that or wait 20min while the only other guy was outside helping another customer. And when I ended up being the only one that found what they were looking for & they went & laughed & joked to my manager that the girl was the only one who knew what they needed! So women DO have to work harder for the same amount of respect! It's just always been that way & always will be! |
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kykat888@yahoo.com in Findlay, Ohio 18 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. I AM A FEMALE TOWER CRANE OPERATOR NCCO CERTIFIED AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY I UNDERSTAND- IT'S LIKE I TELL MY CREWS AND I ALWAYS TOLD MY KIDS - WE ALL REALLY DO HAVE TO PLAY IN THE SAME BACK YARD! BE SAFE!!! |
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sm.pearce@bigpond.com in Adelaide, Australia 18 months ago |
This is great. I was feeling so alone. We are out there. I would like to talk more with all you ladies. Keep up the good work. |
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kykat888@yahoo.com in Toledo, Ohio 18 months ago |
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David Scott Jones in North Hills, California 16 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. I'm a Los Angeles based documentary producer and developing a series called MY UNCONVENTIONAL LIFE.
Can we chat? I'm at davidscottjones@gmail.com |
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offthehook 15 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. I went to ABC and graduated top of the class but I haven't gotten much seat time. I've work with non union companies. I tried to get in the union. That didn't happen. I got tired of fighting for a job. I got asked by a foreman on a job " what's. Your old man do to get you this job." Why when a woman gets a good job do men think that another man has to give her a boost? |
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Dave Kay in Hesperia, California 15 months ago |
offthehook said: I went to ABC and graduated top of the class but I haven't gotten much seat time. I've work with non union companies. I tried to get in the union. That didn't happen. I got tired of fighting for a job. I got asked by a foreman on a job " what's. Your old man do to get you this job." Why when a woman gets a good job do men think that another man has to give her a boost? First off; just because you went to a school and learned how to catch a hook, does not an operator make. It takes years of seat-time and learning the ropes before your fellow workers have confidence in your ability to operate safely. Same goes for any contractor with any common sense, they will NOT just cut you loose to run a crane with little to no practical experince. Second; why do men think that another man has to give her (you) a boost? Because in MOST cases, NOT ALL, but in most cases that's how a women gets hired over a qualified man to take the job. You might think that's a lot of BS, but it is true and I've seen it again and again, a hundred times over. Meanwhile, if you stick with it eventually you will prove yourself and possibly make a decent living. But remember that it won't happen overnight... good luck. |
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offthehook 15 months ago |
Thank you so much for your input. However I worked my way up in construction I am also a certified safety tech. Went to school for that too. I have some seat time, three years seat time. I have never worked because somebody got me a job. I am good at what I do. I started as a firewatch worked myself to pipefitter helper, then got certified in safety. Then went to school for Crane operation and got a few jobs. Nobody got me anything. I tried to join the union here but none of the women were excepted. There were five of us. A friend of mines son was excepted into the union fresh out of high school. I was always told that it was a man's world growing up. My father is a retired operator. After 18 years of it I agree. But I am getting tired of it. |
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offthehook 15 months ago |
Dave Kay in Victorville, California said: You're welcome. The female to male ratio is probably at its lowest right now, meaning there a even less women in cranes, because there is very little work available for ANYONE here in. The States. Curious, how is crane work there in Australia? Are you getting steady work, staying employed? I am not in Australia I'm in Louisiana |
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offthehook 15 months ago |
Dave Kay in Victorville, California said: You're welcome. The female to male ratio is probably at its lowest right now, meaning there a even less women in cranes, because there is very little work available for ANYONE here in. The States. Curious, how is crane work there in Australia? Are you getting steady work, staying employed? I am not in Australia I'm in Louisiana |
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misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana 15 months ago |
offthehook said: Thank you so much for your input. However I worked my way up in construction I am also a certified safety tech. Went to school for that too. I have some seat time, three years seat time. I have never worked because somebody got me a job. I am good at what I do. I started as a firewatch worked myself to pipefitter helper, then got certified in safety. Then went to school for Crane operation and got a few jobs. Nobody got me anything. I tried to join the union here but none of the women were excepted. There were five of us. A friend of mines son was excepted into the union fresh out of high school. I was always told that it was a man's world growing up. My father is a retired operator. After 18 years of it I agree. But I am getting tired of it. Local 406 Does not hire female crane operators... They turned me down too. Refused to sell me a book too. |
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misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana 15 months ago |
Dave Kay in Hesperia, California said: First off; just because you went to a school and learned how to catch a hook, does not an operator make. It takes years of seat-time and learning the ropes before your fellow workers have confidence in your ability to operate safely. Same goes for any contractor with any common sense, they will NOT just cut you loose to run a crane with little to no practical experince. Second; why do men think that another man has to give her (you) a boost? Because in MOST cases, NOT ALL, but in most cases that's how a women gets hired over a qualified man to take the job. You might think that's a lot of BS, but it is true and I've seen it again and again, a hundred times over. Okay with 13 years experience.. NCCCO certified and a perfect safety recorder, a man is with less qualifications is always given preference over me. So I don't believe you know what is really going on in the REAL WORLD... |
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offthehook 15 months ago |
You tell him Sister |
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sm.pearce@bigpond.com in Sydney, Australia 14 months ago |
Wow! I'm sorry to hear that. I too have encountered a lot of Neanderthal attitudes but I encourage you to stick with it. Hard work and perseverance payoff. |
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lvwireman in Las Vegas, Nevada 13 months ago |
You're definitely not alone! I'm a female construction electrician and have had to deal with the same attitudes. Guys are accepted unless the prove they're a dink, while women are assumed to be dinks until they prove otherwise. I just take it as a challenge and like to prove them wrong! |
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NICE_N_EEEZ in Texas 13 months ago |
I'm a male European Operator livin in Texas USA with 23yrs exp and I've trained 11 new female crane operators in Europe and the USA the past 10-15 yrs. Everone but one with the right mind set,a lot of drive and skill!
Women are unfortunately generally in the minority in the crane/heavy lifting/transport industry.
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NICE_N_EEEZ in Texas 13 months ago |
Women in general tend be a whole LOT better at MULTI TASKING then men are!
Infact,...one of the most successful and best crane companies I've ever worked for (back in the 2000's/they dont exist anymore) was for 82% run by women! Women in the office/mechanics/operators/drivers/supervisors/sales ect,...
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NICE_N_EEEZ in Texas 13 months ago |
Don't let those "wise-guys"/neanderthalers put you down for your career choice.
Hope this helps giving all the women out there with a tough "cliche-mansworld" job a little SELF ESTEEM BOOST? |
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Dave Kay in Victorville, California 13 months ago |
NICE_N_EEEZ in Texas said: Don't let those "wise-guys"/neanderthalers put you down for your career choice. AWE... GEEEZ-ESSS dare' Edith! Whatta' ya' doin'? Trying to drum-up some kind of "girlie-power" thing for these here dingbats? |
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Dave Kay in Victorville, California 13 months ago |
NICE_N_EEEZ in Texas said: Women in general tend be a whole LOT better at MULTI TASKING then men are! Then why did they go out of business? |
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Gripper2 in El Cajon, California 13 months ago |
SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia said: Am curious to know if driving cranes is a career choice women make in the U.S. There is only a few of us in Australia. I'd like to talk with my peers in my industry about our experiences. Responding to the original posting by SMP, we do have a female crane operator at my job. I am a crane rigger at NASSCO in San Diego. NASSCO is the largest shipyard on the West Coast.
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misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana 13 months ago |
Thanks Gripper2.. Your post made me smile. Good to hear a positive story. She sounds like a great person |
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misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana 13 months ago |
SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia said: Am curious to know if driving cranes is a career choice women make in the U.S. There is only a few of us in Australia. I'd like to talk with my peers in my industry about our experiences. reading these post, I really like your style. lol... You stirred it up.. lol. please keep in contact.. |
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Gripper2 in California 13 months ago |
misstaken in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: EXCUSE ME... We are not trying and trying to make a career out of crane work... WE ARE!..I am a female crane operator (12 Years now). Some men welcome you, some try to run you off. It is more than being a good operator, you have to be able to work with people that think you are a novelty or joke. You have to work with men who feel their manhood is threatened by females in the field. I get along with everyone, but I have had to work harder to gain respect, due to the fact I am a female. Yes, MissTaken, it is a fact that females hiring into a trade that is predominantly held by men can have its challenges. "Novelty" is somewhat of a fair description and as you know, it's not easy to break through that view that some people have. Admittedly, I was surprised to see a female and I was curious to see how she would work out. I remember that a couple of times she cried about the difficulty a couple of guys would give her. I felt bad for her but she set it aside and continued to be herself.
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iron nut in Australia 12 months ago |
SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia said: Am curious to know if driving cranes is a career choice women make in the U.S. There is only a few of us in Australia. I'd like to talk with my peers in my industry about our experiences. SMP works on the job site with me and is a very good rigger and have been told she is one of better crane operators in Aussie |
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41ws2 in La Marque, Texas 10 months ago |
misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: Local 406 Does not hire female crane operators... They turned me down too. Refused to sell me a book too. I worked out of 406 at lock and dam 5 on the Red River.I wasnt impressed at all and will NEVER work union again....do you run crawlers...friction ...drive pile ect....I just left a highway project in Livonia...they need someone for a 248 Link Belt.Ive never met a female operator. 12 years and still in the trade is respectable for anyone male or female the way its changed in the last ten or so years smrichardson52@yahoo.com lets talk bout it |
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Danielle Adelaide in Melbourne, Australia 10 months ago |
sm.pearce@bigpond.com in Adelaide, Australia said: This is great. I was feeling so alone. We are out there. I would like to talk more with all you ladies. Keep up the good work. Been craning in Adelaide for 3 years now. Worked in various fields as a head turner in a man's world since 1997 with a 1968 Dodge tow truck.
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Robbie in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland 8 months ago |
I get made fun of all the time as a crane operator!! More so because I am less than 5 feet tall, rather than a woman, and have to really struggle to climb up on my equipment... LOL It's a great trade and very rewarding, especially when the guys finally get over themselves and start treating you normal. :) |
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Robbie in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland 8 months ago |
I get made fun of all the time as a crane operator!! More so because I am less than 5 feet tall, rather than a woman, and sometimes I have to really struggle to climb up on my equipment when it's set up... LOL It's a great trade and very rewarding, especially when the guys finally get over themselves and start treating you normal. :) |
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Robbie in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland 8 months ago |
Please excuse the multiple posts. The service here is terrible. |
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Robbie in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland 8 months ago |
Please excuse the multiple posts. The service here is terrible! |
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Kelly in Denham Springs, Louisiana 8 months ago |
41ws2 in La Marque, Texas said: I worked out of 406 at lock and dam 5 on the Red River.I wasnt impressed at all and will NEVER work union again....do you run crawlers...friction ...drive pile ect....I just left a highway project in Livonia...they need someone for a 248 Link Belt.Ive never met a female operator. 12 years and still in the trade is respectable for anyone male or female the way its changed in the last ten or so years smrichardson52@yahoo.com lets talk bout it You wont see a female operator in Local 406, because they don't sell females books. I know this first hand.
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Kelly in Denham Springs, Louisiana 8 months ago |
offthehook said: I went to ABC and graduated top of the class but I haven't gotten much seat time. I've work with non union companies. I tried to get in the union. That didn't happen. I got tired of fighting for a job. I got asked by a foreman on a job " what's. Your old man do to get you this job." Why when a woman gets a good job do men think that another man has to give her a boost? Local 406 refused to sell me a book.. Dont know if that is legal, but it is certainly unethical.
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Melody in Culpeper, Virginia 6 months ago |
I've been working as a tower crane operator for the past 8 years and i agree with all the posts on here, you have to work a lot harder for respect. I work in Washington DC and there are only 2 female operators in the area-that i know of-. The DC area is mostly non-union and can be very difficult. My father is a tower crane operator so its made it easy for me to get into this field of work and the other female operator her dad was a boss in the company and shes been doing it for 20 years plus. Its been great talking to her on the CB because she can help me out when there are questionable things happening, How did you all get in the Field??? |
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Ela E in Cocoa, Florida 5 months ago |
misstaken77 in Denham Springs, Louisiana said: Okay with 13 years experience.. NCCCO certified and a perfect safety recorder, a man is with less qualifications is always given preference over me. So I don't believe you know what is really going on in the REAL WORLD... You hit the nail on the head. I have been ignored on many jobs i have more qualifications and operated with pride and have done a very good job. But yet they will train men to operate before they will hire a woman. I have been there. And i am going to fight it.I worked to damn hard to prove myself to let some greenhorn bump me out of the seat. But on the construction sight its the buddy system.All GF, Formans and superatendents,will train a man before they put an experience and qualilfied woman in the crane.And i am getting sick of it .I have been out of work for 1 1/2 years and the company i have been working for does not approve of a woman operator. I had to fight for it on each job with this company. |
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sm.pearce@bigpond.com in Australia 4 months ago |
After 13 years in the industry with the last 5 in Heavy Lift operations, I have finally become a Crane and Rigging Supervisor! I have a young Kiwi Lady who is an Advanced Rigger I would like on my crew. I'm sure her enthusiasm and willingness to learn will take her far and I will encourage her to get her crane ticket when the time is right. We are proving that this is a viable industry in Australia for women. |
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sydonie in Auckland, New Zealand 4 months ago |
SMP_ in Newcastle, Australia said: Am curious to know if driving cranes is a career choice women make in the U.S. There is only a few of us in Australia. I'd like to talk with my peers in my industry about our experiences. HI there... Im in New Zealand, does that count? Been in the crane for only 3 years. Not looking for respect, Just want to do my job. My digger drivers think im cool anyway! Might take a leap and jump over to aus, and check out the jobs there. |
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Cranelady in Riverside, California 4 months ago |
I'm a female Tower Crane Operator. I've been working out of Los Angeles and San Diego for the past 5 years. Once people get over the initial surprise that I am the operator, we all get along and my work speaks for itself. I didn't set out to prove anything or break new ground taking on this line of work. I'm just trying to support my little family and do the best at my job. My reality to crane operating is ”I just move things from one place to another.” I treat everyone with respect and they reciprocate.
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Johnnybgood in Perth, Australia 4 months ago |
Hi to All,
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