Any DH happy with their career choice???

Wow! Stumbled upon this forum while job hunting. Some pretty strong feelings. The market here is O.K., but the trick is finding a sane work environment. My pay has been fair. In the dental field for over 12 years, RDA and then RDH. The only benefits I ask for are dental care and vacation/holiday pay. I am fortunate to have healthcare thru my spouse.

As for the job I enjoy patient care (general practice)and throwing in some volunteer time when I can. RDH over medicine because I felt MD or Nursing would be taxing emotionally. I am looking for another job because I was released from work because I asked a protocol question that made the office manager nervous. He felt I was challanging practice when my intent was to clarify office procedure for myself. (spouse of owner - stay away from the office with a related employee!) It is crazy and my spouse feels I should get legal council as well as from the TSBDE and ADHA. I am not sure if it is worth my time.

The situation I left could have simply been resoved if he had taken a few minutes to sit down and address my question. I would be happy to find a DDS who is a down to earth real person that will take the time to not only count the deposit but to realize we all have a brain and are not drones to command. I have a license and ethics to maintain. I am not sure what my future holds.

smile junkie in San Antonio, Texas said: Wow! Stumbled upon this forum while job hunting. Some pretty strong feelings. The market here is O.K., but the trick is finding a sane work environment. My pay has been fair. In the dental field for over 12 years, RDA and then RDH. The only benefits I ask for are dental care and vacation/holiday pay. I am fortunate to have healthcare thru my spouse.

As for the job I enjoy patient care (general practice)and throwing in some volunteer time when I can. RDH over medicine because I felt MD or Nursing would be taxing emotionally. I am looking for another job because I was released from work because I asked a protocol question that made the office manager nervous. He felt I was challanging practice when my intent was to clarify office procedure for myself. (spouse of owner - stay away from the office with a related employee!) It is crazy and my spouse feels I should get legal council as well as from the TSBDE and ADHA. I am not sure if it is worth my time.

The situation I left could have simply been resoved if he had taken a few minutes to sit down and address my question. I would be happy to find a DDS who is a down to earth real person that will take the time to not only count the deposit but to realize we all have a brain and are not drones to command. I have a license and ethics to maintain. I am not sure what my future holds.

Make sure you contact the dental board and a lawyer. That way you can get unemployment till you find a job. I feel your frustration and will never work for an office with family members there. Too much drama!

smile junkie in San Antonio, Texas said: Wow! Stumbled upon this forum while job hunting. Some pretty strong feelings. The market here is O.K., but the trick is finding a sane work environment. My pay has been fair. In the dental field for over 12 years, RDA and then RDH. The only benefits I ask for are dental care and vacation/holiday pay. I am fortunate to have healthcare thru my spouse.

As for the job I enjoy patient care (general practice)and throwing in some volunteer time when I can. RDH over medicine because I felt MD or Nursing would be taxing emotionally. I am looking for another job because I was released from work because I asked a protocol question that made the office manager nervous. He felt I was challanging practice when my intent was to clarify office procedure for myself. (spouse of owner - stay away from the office with a related employee!) It is crazy and my spouse feels I should get legal council as well as from the TSBDE and ADHA. I am not sure if it is worth my time.

The situation I left could have simply been resoved if he had taken a few minutes to sit down and address my question. I would be happy to find a DDS who is a down to earth real person that will take the time to not only count the deposit but to realize we all have a brain and are not drones to command. I have a license and ethics to maintain. I am not sure what my future holds.

File for unemployment and if you are denied, appeal it. Sounds like you were discharged without merit. I feel for you. When a spouse works in the practice, I DON'T! You cannot win in that situation.

NURSING NURSING NURSING! ESPECIALLY IN CALIFORNIA! Even an LPN makes great money. RNs make much more. Stable work. Benefits.and if you have a family depending on your income, stable work and benefits is much more important.

I have been a RDH for 20 years there are good things and not so good things about being an RDH.
It is a great job if you plan to work part-time and have a family, the income is good
has been here in ST Louis. The not so good is the ergonomics issue it is difficult to practice full-time over a period of years and not experience some type of pain.
There is not much diversity in the field, you practice, perhaps get a masters degree and teach or do research, or work for dental supply company.
There is alot of gratification working with patients and developing a rapport and
returning a pt to dental health.
Over the years the most critical problem is burnout for me.
I find hygiene to be more unrewarding than it was earlier for me, and am moving on to a new profession soon. Also, the numbers and production I realize is part of the business, but it is a pressure cooker I feel to do an "overhear" or discuss potential consequences of a tooth with a large amalgam. I try to maintain a professional relationship with everyone, dental offices can be rather gossipy which I dislike
the most. So, I am just giving my thoughts and what I have experienced over the years, I think that if you love working with people and are a postive person it is an individual decision for each person to make. Go observe an office for a week and see if it is really for you. Good Luck to all of the potenital RDH's.

If you have an offer in hand I'd say go for D.H., if not, you will be in the situation the majority of us are now. Many experienced D.H.'s are being replaced (BOTTOM LINE IN MANY PRAC'S NOW IS...$$$, NOT ALL BUT MANY)by younger, tech savy D.H.'s . Now, most of us, of all ages have Tech skills, BUT, it's hard finding those special practices, who think also about the yrs. of experience, that the older D.H.'s have, and are willing to show them THEIR comp./NOTE system....once you learn the Dig. X-rays, it's similar in many offices, BUT the COMP NOTES....I find everyone does them differently....5 steps for one, 10 steps for another D.H....;we need consistency. If you want any kind of ben's, whatever your situation....be ready to save and invest on your own first, because alot of us have to. So many in the system now the wages are going down for us (???I wonder if they are doing this to the rest of the staff = paycut....probably not)....Choose a field with longevity....and BENFITS.

OK well I'll throw my little experience out there. I graduated as RDH in Flint, MI in 2008 and I was top of my class. All up to date on digital, computer systems, ultrasonics, diagnodents, etc... Took me 6 months to find a 2 day a week job making very low 20's an hr. After six months of working and getting sent home non stop because of the "economy" they said and GM losing dental coverage. Fine, I can take that, kept my head up and stayed positive that things would only get better. Lol, then six months later got laid off due to lack of work. Great!! After I paid over $50,000 to be in this profession that was suppose to be so great. I loved what I did and when my employer let me got told me that I was the best that he had and that he was losing by letting me go. But he chose me because the rest of the girls has been there 25+ years. Which is fine with me cause I hope, if, I ever get another job that my dedicated years will mean something. But, bottom line is I was misled and convinced this had such a good outlook. It does not and will not until the older generation retires. I have put in apps and am on endless sub lists and nothing has become of it. Well I have kids to feed and cannot wait. Should have gone into nursing.

missali143 in Flint, Michigan said: OK well I'll throw my little experience out there. I graduated as RDH in Flint, MI in 2008 and I was top of my class. All up to date on digital, computer systems, ultrasonics, diagnodents, etc... Took me 6 months to find a 2 day a week job making very low 20's an hr. After six months of working and getting sent home non stop because of the "economy" they said and GM losing dental coverage. Fine, I can take that, kept my head up and stayed positive that things would only get better. Lol, then six months later got laid off due to lack of work. Great!! After I paid over $50,000 to be in this profession that was suppose to be so great. I loved what I did and when my employer let me got told me that I was the best that he had and that he was losing by letting me go. But he chose me because the rest of the girls has been there 25+ years. Which is fine with me cause I hope, if, I ever get another job that my dedicated years will mean something. But, bottom line is I was misled and convinced this had such a good outlook. It does not and will not until the older generation retires. I have put in apps and am on endless sub lists and nothing has become of it. Well I have kids to feed and cannot wait. Should have gone into nursing.

I feel your anguish OP. I have been out of a job as a RDH since Jan 08. I was let go after annoucing my pregnancy. I did everything right. Never thought that once I did fnally have a child I wouldnt be able to provide for her. Thankful for my husband, but families nowadays need 2 incomes to survive. I am very disheartened by this profession. Ive invested too much money and time into this profession to get what Im getting which is nothing.

nojobs in Toronto, Ontario said: You could be wrong. I am an advocate for nojobs in Ontario Canada,
but this girl is asking about the UK. I believe there is plenty
of work there from what I have seen. My advise would be to talk
to local hygienists in the area which you will be working.

Thanks and i went on work experience and i enjoyed it a lot as it involved being practical with your work. But they dont work very many hours.

exp in Massachusetts said: Not the best field at the present time to consider: very expensive,intense (no real life outside of sleep.... or Saturday's ...maybe...)Tough times for many not only because of the recession, but due to the MANY new schools opening up and not informing the students of the real truth about the job situation upon graduation....100 resumes in the Dr.'s drawer...hum , which one do I choose? Many states, as you can see on this website going through the same situation. A fortunate few ....yes are fortunate... if you are young...I'd put it on hold for 5 or so yrs. and find a related science field where you can possibly transfer in your credits(courses) down the road....

woow is that what the situation in america is like now?
how much do they earn over there?

Ishy Jebin Tankian in Redditch, United Kingdom said: woow is that what the situation in america is like now?
how much do they earn over there?

Hi, It depends on the state, number of R.D.H.'s looking at the same position, skills, experience, sometimes "how YOU look"(I worked as a temp. in practices like this....), graduates in the field + older D.H.'s staying in the field because of loss of retirement ( many , if they're smart start an IRA of their own ...just in case, like today's situation)...many vying for the same job...watch yourself, others....wish it were different...but it's not...

karla Vancouver british columbia in Port Mann, British Columbia said: Go into nursing...the hygiene markets all over is saturated and I think nursing would be way more mentally stimulating and rewarding. Don't just look at the hourly wage because most dental offices do not offer benefits or pention plans but nursing does.

Hi Karla,
How do you feel about it now. I am looking forward to getting in to the program are there shortage of jobs out there? I live in Vancouver as well and I am taking the course through VCC (CDI). What is the salary and benefits like in Vancouver?

BreezyRDH in Cleveland, Ohio said: I feel your anguish OP. I have been out of a job as a RDH since Jan 08. I was let go after annoucing my pregnancy. I did everything right. Never thought that once I did fnally have a child I wouldnt be able to provide for her. Thankful for my husband, but families nowadays need 2 incomes to survive. I am very disheartened by this profession. Ive invested too much money and time into this profession to get what Im getting which is nothing.

At least I know it is just not me. I did a fantastic job and I had tons of patients that would only let me work on them. I am a single mother of 2 and you are so right about needing 2 incomes. I'm just bitter because it was talked up to be the best and $50,000 later I have no job. I have walked my resume into every office I could find in MI with nothing to show for it. I'm looking hard. I have considered moving and have also been told that living in Detroit and working in Canada is something to consider. If anyone knows anything about that I would love some information. I also have questions about getting licensed in another state. I feel better finding this post and knowing I am not alone.

Missali, Im from Deroit. I moved here to OH after I meeting my husband, but the current situation in the Detroit area isnt any better. My friends I have there are complaining as well, and if you do find a job, its only for a day or 2, and most are prophy mills. Over-booking is common in medicaid accepting offices, and your body will soon pay for it. Oh, yeah and another complain I heard alot from friends is being sent home when the schedule falls apart.
I didnt expect things to be as bad as they are here in OH, but MI and OH have similar economys, heavily relying on auto workers with insurance, and other factor workers. Withthese two staes taking such a hard hit with all the lay-offs in these two industries, who knows when things will start to pick up again.

missali143 in Flint, Michigan said: At least I know it is just not me. I did a fantastic job and I had tons of patients that would only let me work on them. I am a single mother of 2 and you are so right about needing 2 incomes. I'm just bitter because it was talked up to be the best and $50,000 later I have no job. I have walked my resume into every office I could find in MI with nothing to show for it. I'm looking hard. I have considered moving and have also been told that living in Detroit and working in Canada is something to consider. If anyone knows anything about that I would love some information. I also have questions about getting licensed in another state. I feel better finding this post and knowing I am not alone.

Hi, Contact the "state"'s Dental Association and ask what is required, and /or a website with info. Canada? Same . But, Canada has different rules, reg's, education....GL

missali143 in Flint, Michigan said: At least I know it is just not me. I did a fantastic job and I had tons of patients that would only let me work on them. I am a single mother of 2 and you are so right about needing 2 incomes. I'm just bitter because it was talked up to be the best and $50,000 later I have no job. I have walked my resume into every office I could find in MI with nothing to show for it. I'm looking hard. I have considered moving and have also been told that living in Detroit and working in Canada is something to consider. If anyone knows anything about that I would love some information. I also have questions about getting licensed in another state. I feel better finding this post and knowing I am not alone.

You are definitely not alone! You should contact the state's professional licensing agency in the state you are thinking of to be sure of the requirements. They are all different, something I think should be a thing of the past considering the economic crisis we are in.
I'm sorry you are having such difficulty. Good luck to you.

Thank you for all of the kind words and advise. I wish the best to all of you also.

Trish:
I graduated 2 years ago as a dental hygienist, and I have had the opportunity to work for several dentist, not as a full time dental hygienist though. As a male dental hygienist, it has been even more difficult for me to compete with so many beautiful hygienist out there for a limited amount of job offerings. Nevertheless, there is always an opportunity to demonstrate how much you know and care bout your patients. I agree with many of these comments below; DH could be a heartbreakng career, for even if you really want the best for your patients, your dentist may not be, and really willing to be, on the same page with you. I have never being offered any kind of benefits from my employers as an RDH.
I am new to dental hygiene but I have worked in the dental field for over 9 years as a dental ceramist; and I have a chance to work very closely with several dentists. Dentist are at the top of this pyramid, they control everything supeditated to dentistry"DA, DH, DT..and any other Ds you could imagine. I certainly have many of my colleages turning to nursing or pulling their last strings to stay in this field. It is sad that one should study for so long to be treated as a production machine. I personally dont agree with is, and I am taking manners into my own hands: I want to make it all right from the very beginning, so I am studying to be a dentist. For me, this is the other choice; I have a passion for teeth and gums; for me nursing just will not do; fight for what you want! do not just rely on luck !
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Smile junkie in San Antonio,
How are things going for you? Did you ever get anywhere with your legal issues? I have thought of you several times and hope your situation has improved and you have gained another job by now. Happy Holidays!

It's a shame how this holiday season has turned out for us. Instead of us enjoying it we are too worried about finding a job. I think this whole econmy has messed everyone up. Yeah the DDS aren't playing fair at all but alot has to be blamed on the economy. There is well over 5.4 million who lost their jobs. If the economy was better there would be more jobs and we could have a leg to stand on. We could even strike knowing that the DDS can't work without us. I think the hyg license should be universal. That way we can go state to state and work like the RNs. I think we should have clinics that we can set up like the NPs. The only problem with that is pt's won't go to the DDS for exams. We still won't be able to diagnose. Nobody seems to care about us. Are we a career that is getting pushed to out? Pretty soon the DAs will get trained to do all our work. Like the LPNs do the RNs work at a lower pay.

You are so right and I couldn't agree with you more. We have a tough decision to make about our positions and our futures. It's too bad. Back to school to rack up some more student loans, if I can even get approved ha

hyg sucks in Richmond, Virginia said: It's a shame how this holiday season has turned out for us. Instead of us enjoying it we are too worried about finding a job. I think this whole econmy has messed everyone up. Yeah the DDS aren't playing fair at all but alot has to be blamed on the economy. There is well over 5.4 million who lost their jobs. If the economy was better there would be more jobs and we could have a leg to stand on. We could even strike knowing that the DDS can't work without us. I think the hyg license should be universal. That way we can go state to state and work like the RNs. I think we should have clinics that we can set up like the NPs. The only problem with that is pt's won't go to the DDS for exams. We still won't be able to diagnose. Nobody seems to care about us. Are we a career that is getting pushed to out? Pretty soon the DAs will get trained to do all our work. Like the LPNs do the RNs work at a lower pay.

Hi, I don't see the "universal license" happening at least for the next 25yrs. WHY? Because each state wants their "cut"....money is always the bottom line. Unfortunately, we also are not likely to see a union for the R.D.H., because, I feel those choosing to join could be "black balled". You have to have clout (sp)first, and many an R.D.H., can't afford to further, their loss of employment....no crystal ball and or leg to stand on. If anyone: (higher ups with alot of legalize knowledge...can put us in a safe position of not loosing what work we have....please let us know what can be done...again, our names on forms/petitions at this point may cause more problems to our existing employment.

It's very hard to get a loan if you worked the previous year to when you file your taxes as that's what the loans are based on. I did work in 2008 so I didn't qualify for any gov't sponsored loans in 09. If I wanted to apply for personal loans I couldn't get one because I didn't have a job! The bottom fell out of everything for me. In hindsight I was fortunate in that because I was laid-off 3 times in 2008 from full-time jobs I qualified for unemployment benefits and now I'm considered a dislocated worker which opens the funding for retraining. I'm at the end of unemployment so don't know how I'll make it while in school but I will somehow. I would encourage anyone in this situation not to wait until they have no options as that's what I did. I kept thinking I'd get a job. I'm a hygienist for heavens sake! HA!
If I had been smart I would have gone and gotten a loan while I was working, even 1 or 2 days a week is enough for credit checks and the bank. I don't mean to sound like I'm preaching, I just hope to spare anyone from what has happened to me. Too many are on here that graduated months ago and cannot land a job. They think sooner or later it will come along. Maybe it will. But what if it doesn't?

exp in Epping, New Hampshire said: Unfortunately, we also are not likely to see a union for the R.D.H., because, I feel those choosing to join could be "black balled". You have to have clout (sp)first, and many an R.D.H., can't afford to further, their loss of employment....no crystal ball and or leg to stand on. If anyone: (higher ups with alot of legalize knowledge...can put us in a safe position of not loosing what work we have....please let us know what can be done...again, our names on forms/petitions at this point may cause more problems to our existing employment.

You have to realize, most dental offices are small businesses, thereby rendering hygiene unions worthless. Big corporations form unions with hundreds, possibly thousands of employees that can effectively shut down a business if they walk. Examples: if hundreds of nurses walked out of a hospital, that hospital couldn't function effectively. If trained auto workers walk, the plant shuts down. If one or two hygienists walked out of a dental office, that office would continue to function. They would just hire another hygienist waiting in the wings that wasn't in a union. Or the doctor might realize HE can handle the hygiene schedule.
Just something to think about.

Susann in Columbus, Ohio said: You have to realize, most dental offices are small businesses, thereby rendering hygiene unions worthless. Big corporations form unions with hundreds, possibly thousands of employees that can effectively shut down a business if they walk. Examples: if hundreds of nurses walked out of a hospital, that hospital couldn't function effectively. If trained auto workers walk, the plant shuts down. If one or two hygienists walked out of a dental office, that office would continue to function. They would just hire another hygienist waiting in the wings that wasn't in a union. Or the doctor might realize HE can handle the hygiene schedule.
Just something to think about.

True. Unfortunate for us; and the Dr.'s are in the drivers seat...many not caring if you loose your job/income...A few good offices with some ben's, but not much else. Susann, What's your take on the people...continuing to pursue this field (M.O.: they are only looking at the hourly wage and not retirement, because they are young....not the best choice with the downward turn of our field)...

I'm getting ready to field. However, every time I read these comments, it made me so scare. What can I do? Should I give up right now and try something else. There are anybody in MA faced the same problem?

There are anybody have a positive comment at all. The world full of complaining!.....Sad

exp in Epping, New Hampshire said: True. Unfortunate for us; and the Dr.'s are in the drivers seat...many not caring if you loose your job/income...A few good offices with some ben's, but not much else. Susann, What's your take on the people...continuing to pursue this field (M.O.: they are only looking at the hourly wage and not retirement, because they are young....not the best choice with the downward turn of our field)...

Hi exp....that's really hard for me to answer. I have been pretty fortunate and have managed to support myself and 3 children for the last 18 years practicing hygiene. The only complaints I would have are the lack of insurance and retirement for part-time workers, and the lack of available full-time opportunities for those seeking such. I also think those pursuing hygiene should do their research first. Schools will not inform you of the lack of opportunities available right now...which I, personally, think is hugely due to the current economy more than anything else. Even the nursing, and other healthcare forums talk about how many are unable to find jobs today. In Ohio, I think the scope of practice is expanding, not dwindling, with the ability to deliver local anes., indirect supervision, and the current bill in the house to allow a broader scope of practice.
Bottom line: if you don't need benefits, want to work part-time only, have children, and aren't dependent on the income, it is a great field. I love it. But...I've been very lucky.

Jessica in Westborough, Massachusetts said: There are anybody have a positive comment at all. The world full of complaining!.....Sad

No complaints here, Jess. :)

Susann in Columbus, Ohio said: Hi exp....that's really hard for me to answer. I have been pretty fortunate and have managed to support myself and 3 children for the last 18 years practicing hygiene. The only complaints I would have are the lack of insurance and retirement for part-time workers, and the lack of available full-time opportunities for those seeking such. I also think those pursuing hygiene should do their research first. Schools will not inform you of the lack of opportunities available right now...which I, personally, think is hugely due to the current economy more than anything else. Even the nursing, and other healthcare forums talk about how many are unable to find jobs today. In Ohio, I think the scope of practice is expanding, not dwindling, with the ability to deliver local anes., indirect supervision, and the current bill in the house to allow a broader scope of practice.
Bottom line: if you don't need benefits, want to work part-time only, have children, and aren't dependent on the income, it is a great field. I love it. But...I've been very lucky.

I should say...it's been a great field for me. Not so sure for those searching for employment, and from what I hear, there are many. People need to get wise and research before they spend thousands of dollars on a specific field, whatever that may be.

Susann in Columbus, Ohio said: Hi exp....that's really hard for me to answer. I have been pretty fortunate and have managed to support myself and 3 children for the last 18 years practicing hygiene. The only complaints I would have are the lack of insurance and retirement for part-time workers, and the lack of available full-time opportunities for those seeking such. I also think those pursuing hygiene should do their research first. Schools will not inform you of the lack of opportunities available right now...which I, personally, think is hugely due to the current economy more than anything else. Even the nursing, and other healthcare forums talk about how many are unable to find jobs today. In Ohio, I think the scope of practice is expanding, not dwindling, with the ability to deliver local anes., indirect supervision, and the current bill in the house to allow a broader scope of practice.
Bottom line: if you don't need benefits, want to work part-time only, have children, and aren't dependent on the income, it is a great field. I love it. But...I've been very lucky.

Very few hygienists would meet the criteria you stated. Even if you have insurance and retirement through a spouse you still need your own in the event of an unplanned divorce, death or illness. If you aren't dependent on the income I doubt any hygienist would put up with the daily grind of the issues in the practice that are stated on here practically hourly. I don't know, I think it's more than a recession. I think the field is oversaturated and has been for a while and the recession made it obvious to everyone just how much. Just my opinions.

Suzanne in Terre Haute, Indiana said: I have been a hygienist for 15 years and still love it. However, I am unemployed due to too many hygienists and not enough jobs. The money is great. But there will be many days the dr closes early, closes for his vacation, if pts. don't show, holidays ect you will not get paid. Hygiene is not a 40 hour a week 52 weeks a year career. I worked 7 years for a dr that I thought was great, was producing at a minimum of $1500 a day, built the hygiene dept. from 1 day a week to 4, and I never, not once, got a vacation day, a holiday paid, a bonus, or even a verbal thank-you. In 7 years I missed 2 days of work, once when my mom died and once for a 2 hour legal matter with her lawyer. My last job hired me to start a hygiene dept. in an urgent care facility. I worked 6 weeks, ordered supplies and instruments, got a schedule going and booked out 3 months and then I was terminated "due to the economy" and a week later they had a new grad in there for half the money they were paying me. Keep in mind too that you have no where to turn for issues like this. You have no union or higher places to help you. The dr always knows the right people and he has way more money and clout than you do so a lawsuit is a no win situation. If you get a rep for sticking up for yourself, no one will hire you. I'd recommend another field.

Hey Suzanne, please send me your email again. This is Kathy H, RDH in Nashville, TN Thanks. hr7kat@comcast.net

Suzanne in Terre Haute, Indiana said: Very few hygienists would meet the criteria you stated. Even if you have insurance and retirement through a spouse you still need your own in the event of an unplanned divorce, death or illness. If you aren't dependent on the income I doubt any hygienist would put up with the daily grind of the issues in the practice that are stated on here practically hourly. I don't know, I think it's more than a recession. I think the field is oversaturated and has been for a while and the recession made it obvious to everyone just how much. Just my opinions.

Actually, speaking from my own personal experience....my husband DID pass away when my children were young. I did not have ins. through my job, but you know what...I've managed to pay for my own and still support my family. Anyone that thinks this world OWES them a "perfect" job, is delusional or the "prima donna" type that some refer to on dentaltown. And when my husband was alive, I worked, not for the money, but for my own personal sense of accomplishment.....and a break from 3 children 2 and under...:) The field is definitely oversaturated, which is why I stated that anyone considering hygiene should do their research first. :)

Susie Allen in Westborough, Massachusetts said: I'm getting ready to field. However, every time I read these comments, it made me so scare. What can I do? Should I give up right now and try something else. There are anybody in MA faced the same problem?

If I were in your shoes I would do something else. Its definitely NOT worth spending all the time AND money on the profession only to graduate and cross your fingers and PRAY HARD that you can find ANY job, let alone a decnt one offering more than 1 or 2 days a week. Benefits and any retirement are a whole nother story.
Take the credits you have and look into becoming a dentist, or physicians assistant.
Im not really pushing nursing cause I know its not for everyone (myself included). At this point your lucky not to be in this mess of a profession right now. Take the advice. We are have a mutual passion for the field, but right now it not what its all hyped up to be. Good Luck!!

Susann in Columbus, Ohio said: Actually, speaking from my own personal experience....my husband DID pass away when my children were young. I did not have ins. through my job, but you know what...I've managed to pay for my own and still support my family. Anyone that thinks this world OWES them a "perfect" job, is delusional or the "prima donna" type that some refer to on dentaltown. And when my husband was alive, I worked, not for the money, but for my own personal sense of accomplishment.....and a break from 3 children 2 and under...:) The field is definitely oversaturated, which is why I stated that anyone considering hygiene should do their research first. :)

I dont think Suzanne was(or anyone else for that matter) insinuating that the world OWES them a PERFECT job. Especially not in DH, but what IS and SHOULD be expected is to graduate from a school (after been sold on the idea that this profession is such HIGH demand) to find a job to pay your bills.
Susann, its seems you got dealt a pretty good hand, and that all anyone else wants is a fair chance. Your "experience" comes off a bit condescending to those who havent faired so well. Also, as if those of us who are giving the advice to not pursue this field as if we all are just disgruntled and bitter, when thats not the case.
Im not sure if that was your intent or not, but that is sure how I perceive it. Im sure Im not alone.

BreezyRDH said:
Susann, its seems you got dealt a pretty good hand, and that all anyone else wants is a fair chance. Your "experience" comes off a bit condescending to those who havent faired so well. Also, as if those of us who are giving the advice to not pursue this field as if we all are just disgruntled and bitter, when thats not the case.
Im sure Im not alone.

breezy....the field IS in high demand, (ie. there is a great need for our services). That, however, does not translate to jobs available and that is how schools are being deceiving. They say there is a huge need for hygienists but fail to tell prospective students that there are not enough jobs to go around.
As far as being condensending...exp asked me a question which I had to answer based on MY experience. If that sounds condensending, I'm sorry.
And... not that I said any such thing, but I'm sorry, some posters DO sound whiny and bitter, so if I come off a bit condensending, it's simply because I don't tolerate complainers very well. I apologize. It's one of my faults. I'm not saying they aren't entitled, but for goodness sake, instead of sitting here complaining about your terrible career, DO SOMETHING about it!! I needed extra money for the holidays so I went out and got a seasonal job paying $9.00 an hour. It will take me 6 hours of seasonal work to make up 1 hour of my hygiene job. Do you hear me complaining? No...I am doing what I have to do if I want extra money. Don't complain that you can't pay your bills because you can't find a hygiene job. Do what you have to do, as sad as that may be. This world is full of do-ers and those who live to complain that life is not fair. Who do you think fares better in life?
In a perfect world we would all have perfect jobs. Sadly, this world isn't perfect. We all have challenges. How are you going to face yours?
May God bless each and every one of you.

I love my career choice. In any profession there will be negatives. I have reasons to be bitter about past employers. I went through a time when I was considering a career change. In my search I did not find the golden egg. I have gone from working one office now at two. I also temp when I can and need to. Temp is nice because you can take it or leave it. You are in the office a short time and might even find your next job. Working in more than one office is nice because you are not there enough to get caught in office drama that is in many offices. You may not get added benefits this way but you can budget and get what you need. Temp one day a month to pay for insurance etc. If you need full time hours you can spread out if need be. We make great pay and in the current economy we fair pretty well. In my opinion taking a job below average salary for your area and experience is a diservice to yourself and your peers. Doc will have to pay fair salary if he/she can't get a blue light special. If you are in an area with many large business loss it would be expected that all area business will suffer including dental offices. Reality is loss of income and benefits will keep patients away.
It is unrealistic to expect your employer to keep staff on the payroll if the money is not coming in. Don't
misunderstand me I do think it sucks but that is in any job. If you are looking into the field you have to weigh the pros and cons. See how it fits into your future.

missali143 in Flint, Michigan said: OK well I'll throw my little experience out there. I graduated as RDH in Flint, MI in 2008 and I was top of my class. All up to date on digital, computer systems, ultrasonics, diagnodents, etc... Took me 6 months to find a 2 day a week job making very low 20's an hr. After six months of working and getting sent home non stop because of the "economy" they said and GM losing dental coverage. Fine, I can take that, kept my head up and stayed positive that things would only get better. Lol, then six months later got laid off due to lack of work. Great!! After I paid over $50,000 to be in this profession that was suppose to be so great. I loved what I did and when my employer let me got told me that I was the best that he had and that he was losing by letting me go. But he chose me because the rest of the girls has been there 25+ years. Which is fine with me cause I hope, if, I ever get another job that my dedicated years will mean something. But, bottom line is I was misled and convinced this had such a good outlook. It does not and will not until the older generation retires. I have put in apps and am on endless sub lists and nothing has become of it. Well I have kids to feed and cannot wait. Should have gone into nursing.

Wow I went through pages and pages of forums and of course the last one...this one.... was the one I was looking for.
I went to school for medical assisting....hated it...looked into Dental Hygeine....just because they got decent pay and now I am having doubts... I really enjoy working with people helping them and someone mentioned social work. Thats atleast 5 years of schooling and it is such a turn off...No one wants to go to school for that long. Is anyone out here a single mom looking into social work? Or can give me a heads up on dental hygeine in Michigan...??? thank you

MelVic in Ann Arbor, Michigan said: Wow I went through pages and pages of forums and of course the last one...this one.... was the one I was looking for.
I went to school for medical assisting....hated it...looked into Dental Hygeine....just because they got decent pay and now I am having doubts... I really enjoy working with people helping them and someone mentioned social work. Thats atleast 5 years of schooling and it is such a turn off...No one wants to go to school for that long. Is anyone out here a single mom looking into social work? Or can give me a heads up on dental hygeine in Michigan...??? thank you

Possibly look into dental assisting (1 year of school)... there are a lot of positions you can get with having your dental assisting cert and other positions that will open up for you if you have dental assisting and want to grow in that field... eg ortho, surgical assistant, front desk, extended duties da. I see WAY more dental assisting positions than dental hygiene, it takes less time, the pay is decent depending on where you work, and most are steady positions.

Jessica in Westborough, Massachusetts said: There are anybody have a positive comment at all. The world full of complaining!.....Sad

What you consider "complaining" is = REALITY. We are stating the case in many R.D.H.'s lives right now. Tell us about the positive in your experience as an R.D.H.....if you are presently and gainfully employed by a Dr., with set hours/days, have ben's, etc...you are in a fortunate place....many don't have this NOW, so what we say and are trying to do to inform others, we feel is helpful....it's alot of money to invest in a career where wages seen to be sliding back to the yr. 2000.

Suzanne in Terre Haute, Indiana said: Very few hygienists would meet the criteria you stated. Even if you have insurance and retirement through a spouse you still need your own in the event of an unplanned divorce, death or illness. If you aren't dependent on the income I doubt any hygienist would put up with the daily grind of the issues in the practice that are stated on here practically hourly. I don't know, I think it's more than a recession. I think the field is oversaturated and has been for a while and the recession made it obvious to everyone just how much. Just my opinions.

Ditto....Hi Suzanne....oversaturation that is unfortunately HERE TO STAY! And it continues.....? those still looking at the hourly pay....HELLO...this too, is going down because the Dr.'s can and do , do this....too many resumes'.....who to choose...oh, the one with the most tech. skills wanting the least pay....it's almost like a soap opera....

Well here is my 2 cents. I complain about this filed because it has been unfair to me. I can honestly say I worked for 2 DDS I enjoyed. FYI I put in applications for all and any jobs with no luck, so I am doing something about it. Susan in Ohio you should not pass judgment on people until you walk a mile in their shoes. Do you think I would just quit because I have no reason. Let see you stay at a job were you are touched or have racial slurs at you. I sent resumes as far as 8hrs away because I a have family to take care. I am trying to go to school so I can leave this whole bad career behind. I can't stand people who think that all I'm doing is whiniga and not doing nothing about. You are blessed to have your job! How would you cope if you were laid off in this econmy! There are alot of people who are in the same boat as I am!

Susann in Columbus, Ohio said: Actually, speaking from my own personal experience....my husband DID pass away when my children were young. I did not have ins. through my job, but you know what...I've managed to pay for my own and still support my family. Anyone that thinks this world OWES them a "perfect" job, is delusional or the "prima donna" type that some refer to on dentaltown. And when my husband was alive, I worked, not for the money, but for my own personal sense of accomplishment.....and a break from 3 children 2 and under...:) The field is definitely oversaturated, which is why I stated that anyone considering hygiene should do their research first. :)

Sorry about your husbands passing. I'm glad you were able to support yourself and children.
So was I. But that was then and this is now. Many are losing houses, cars, the kids tuition ect. I don't think anyone owes me anything. I'm as able now as I ever have been to take care of myself but I need to be employed to do that. Too many agree with me for it not to be a national concern.

Suzanne in Nashville, Indiana said: Sorry about your husbands passing. I'm glad you were able to support yourself and children.
So was I. But that was then and this is now. Many are losing houses, cars, the kids tuition ect. I don't think anyone owes me anything. I'm as able now as I ever have been to take care of myself but I need to be employed to do that.

Thank you Suzanne.
I am still supporting myself and my 3 college children (last year...yay!), and it's tough. I know it is. Even though I am fortunate enough to have a terrific job, I work 25 hours a week, and sometimes that still just doesn't get it. I know a lot of people would kill for my job and I am sooo grateful to have it. I thought about looking for another position for Friday, my day off, but I know there is nothing available. Around here you're lucky to find a dentist that works Friday, let alone one that needs a hygienist. And there are too many gals that need a job, period. I know that. Friends of my kids ask me constantly if I know of anything available. So, I totally agree with you, too, that lack of job availablity is a national concern.
All I was trying to say is that if you can't find a position in hygiene right now, sometimes you have to look outside the box and do something else for a while. It may not pay all your bills, but it is better than not working at all don't you think? My seasonal job will only make me maybe a thousand dollars, if I'm lucky, but that's a thousand dollars I didn't have. I realize a thousand dollars wouldn't help you keep your house, but it is a way to be proactive. No one but you(that is a general you) is going to improve your situation for you.

hyg sucks: I am NOT cutting you down at all...I actually admire what you are trying to do for yourself and your family. Going back to school is a great example of being proactive. And I would last one day in an office where I was
sexually harrassed or derogatory comments were made.

I'm so not happy that I'm a dental hygienist because I can't find a job and there aren't any dentists hiring.

Susan I wasn't trying to be mean just wanted you to see my point. I came from nothing and I came this far. All I know how to do is survive. I'm glad you were able to get your kids through college. I know that had to be hard by yourself. That's why I'm scrambling now so I can send mine. Sounds like Ohio is like Va. Nobody hardly works on Fri except those prophy mills.

hyg sucks in Richmond, Virginia said: Susan I wasn't trying to be mean just wanted you to see my point. I came from nothing and I came this far. All I know how to do is survive. I'm glad you were able to get your kids through college. I know that had to be hard by yourself. That's why I'm scrambling now so I can send mine. Sounds like Ohio is like Va. Nobody hardly works on Fri except those prophy mills.

Yeh...some of those big corporate prophy mills work 7 days a week...I'll pass on those places, though. Their definition of "ethical" doesn't exactly jive with mine.

I just wanted to say that reading some of the comments has helped me. No "whining" doesn't fix the problem, but there's much more going on than simple whining. When you devote time, money and hard work to a career that gives little back when under the impression that you have done a positive thing in life it is hard to accept. Kudos to those who have found what they were looking for in this field, but for me it's been dissapointing! I have been at a job I find unfufilling for 6 yrs. because I'm the sole provider. It's hard to make a career change and go back to school with mortgage, child, ect. but possibly the only answer.

frustrated in Portage,
I have been where you're at and it's not a fun place. The bills keep on coming even if the paycheck stops. If you are unhappy in hygiene after 6 years it's only going to get worse unless you find a good dr to work for and good luck with that. But if you just don't care for hygiene, I will encourage you to find a way to take night classes or online classes for another career while your college credits will still transfer. After 10 years you will be starting over like I am. The same as if you had never gone to college so don't wait until it's too late. Some credits in medical have to be retaken after 5 years so try to really think about the future. Some day the kids will be grown and you want to have more than a job that means nothing. With all the over saturation in hygiene, you may not even have that. Don't consider your comments whining. We all need someone to listen and relate to.

MelVic in Ann Arbor, Michigan said: Wow I went through pages and pages of forums and of course the last one...this one.... was the one I was looking for.
I went to school for medical assisting....hated it...looked into Dental Hygeine....just because they got decent pay and now I am having doubts... I really enjoy working with people helping them and someone mentioned social work. Thats atleast 5 years of schooling and it is such a turn off...No one wants to go to school for that long. Is anyone out here a single mom looking into social work? Or can give me a heads up on dental hygeine in Michigan...??? thank you

Well I am not saying don't go into Hygiene and I am not saying do it either. But 98% of my class that graduated in 2008 cannot find a job or had a job or lost it or is just subbing. I am not alone and seeing that you are in the same stat that I am, I feel that you could benefit from this. I have went all over the entire state. I have drove up to 5 hours away dropping resumes off in person. I have read other comments on here about looks and being young and replacing the older hygienist. Pshh, not true! I am very professional, good looking, and was taught high tech and digital. The office I was in also paid me far less than the other hygienist and yet I was still laid off due to "lack of work" Sure they needed me in June before GM lost their insurance but after that I was a waste of paycheck. I have looked into Sonography and that waiting list is 6 yrs. Im calling the Nursing dep on Monday to see how long that is. I have also considered other aspects of Dental hygiene because I love it so much, if I understand it right, you must have 7yr experience and a BA min to teach. I don't want to rep. I love being RDH and it's a shame I have to chose something else to live. I will make sure it doesn't require a state license. Good luck to you and if you have any other questions, I will try my best to help.