colleges for DH in toronto?

HAHA in Toronto, Ontario said: SO ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! NOTHING ELSE.

It is not 'all about the money'. It is about job security, job opportunities, stable pay, standard of education, competent instructors, etc etc etc. Read through the posts....you'll see it is about far more than the money.

Your all so silly and negative people. Be happy and have the right attitude and you will find many opportunities. JUST LIKE ME!

Any one know how long a private dental assistant college course is?
How much is the program in Ontario, compared to Dental Hygiene?
There are so many dental assistant jobs available, I hear new grads
are getting 20.00 per hour now.
40K is not bad for a career in demand! And you can get full-time work near where you live very easy. The negative thing about dental
hygiene is that there is little assisting skills taught, why not enter an affordable career with plenty of job opportunities and then
work your way up down the road when many of the dental hygiene
colleges close due saturation.
to little

nojobs in Toronto, Ontario said: Any one know how long a private dental assistant college course is?
How much is the program in Ontario, compared to Dental Hygiene?
There are so many dental assistant jobs available, I hear new grads
are getting 20.00 per hour now.
40K is not bad for a career in demand! And you can get full-time work near where you live very easy. The negative thing about dental
hygiene is that there is little assisting skills taught, why not enter an affordable career with plenty of job opportunities and then
work your way up down the road when many of the dental hygiene
colleges close due saturation.

WeeTartan in Fergus, Ontario said: Wow, after reading all of these comments now I'm REALLY going to look into COmmunity COllege programs instead of private training. Privates seem to cost a fortune all the way around - a fortune to apply, a fortune to write the entrance exam, a fortune for tuition every semester...and so on down the line.
For someone like me who is just now trying to put a career together after raising a family for the past 16 years, I certainly don't have one of those "money trees" growing in MY back yard!
I often wondered how the folks who are actually IN these careers felt about private graduates as well...now I know that too! Thanks!
Definitely go with the time tested and traditionally honoured Community College approach! No doubt!

...."community college approach" or University approach....

30 year vet in edmonton, Alberta, you are fantastic!
I don't understand why the CDHO has let our profession down. If it's mandate is to protect the public, it sure has dropped the ball in allowing the unaccredited private RDH colleges to operate as they have. Someone is going to get hurt, and then the crap will hit the fan.

Best wishes to you 30 year vet, openwide in Sudbury, ON , where there are ABSOLUTLEY no Hygiene jobs, and the ones that exist are paying $20.00 an hour.

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be quiet HAHA.. your comments are becoming too dumb to tolerate... go and find another forum to lay your lies out on.. and for all you girls who are upset b/c of the job market..so am I.. but have hope... finally CDAC is stepping in and all of these private schools are goiing down.. it's really stupid.. if someone fails the board exam they can take it again.. haha... the CDHO reaaaalllllllyy cares about the public eh? If we want to change things.. we have to let the public know.. I am sure they won't put up with this... if you can find a person who would let someone who has failed the board exams already go into their mouth with a sharp knife ... please do let me know.. lol.. it will never happen.. same thing as a doctor or nurse.. I would NEVER want someone who failed their board exam the first time to practice on me..... IT OBVIOUSLY SHOWS U DON'T KNOW UR STUFF... if u failed the boards.. you're school was obviously a non-accredited one, you just didnt understand the material and u kept failing exams and u got ur way through cheating or somehow!!! point is.. if you know ur stuff.. you won't fail.... and all I know is when it comes to health care I want the best.. I want someone who KNOWS THEIR STUFF!

HAVE Hope.. they will be changing it to a university !

des kat in yay said: HAVE Hope.. they will be changing it to a university !

Off topic, Where is yay???

I dont know who to say has the RDH's best interest in all this.
There are dentists on the board of CDAC. As stated, there is an interest to all associations and colleges to have an increase in
members. RDH's would probably be better off lobbying independently
or forming a union. There are dental hygiene unions in the US.
www.dentaleconomics.com/display_article/202378/56/none/none/Feat/The-UnionsHow-organized-labor-is-lending-a-helping-hand-to-dental-hygien

Perhaps finding a union here in Ontario and teaming up with them.

To HaHa, why are you being so mean and insulting to others on this forum. This forum is set up for people to discuss all things related to the dental hygiene profession, which unfortunately, now includes topics such as the oversaturation of the market due to too many dental hygiene schools which has caused the hourly rate to drop. I agree with everything that 30 year vet has said. She makes valid points. Why insult her and call her names and tell her that she should retire? When I became a hygienist I wasn't looking to work for 5 years and call it quits. I only hope that I am able to work for 30 years. Hygiene shouldn't only be a profession for those in their 20's. You too will get old one day. We are supposed to be professionals! Enough with the nasty immature comments.

lol

I prefer not to disclose my state/province/city :)

HAHA in Toronto, Ontario said: It looks like Open wide open in public is what you do best. HAHA

Alberta retire now so the rest of us can work. No room for grumpy old ladies.

please grow up and STOP POSTING GARBAGE!! You do not make any sense!

I'm just a student (yes, in a non-accredited college) but I'm no spring chicken and can figure things out on my own pretty quickly. I can see that many of you are upset about the career you chose and you'd rather spend time posting negative comments in this forum instead of being proactive. A comment was made regarding a union and this might be a good start.

My real reason for posting is to make an important comment about unaccredited schools - mainly because I go to one and feel a real need to defend my education.

A) Look at the aggregate results of the board exam and you will see that many accredited schools are not doing too well - some non-accredited schools are out performing them. The bottom line is that you get out of a program what you put in to it.
B) The CDAC works for the CDHO. They are there to PROMOTE accreditation - they set up the system. It seems ironic to call them for information on accreditation. Of course, they will tell you to go to an accredited school! It's like calling up FORD and asking them which car you should buy. What do you think they are going to tell you??
C) 3 schools that are accreidted may have their accreditation revoked this year. Wonder what they've been up to?

Good luck to everyone. I worked as a DA before I got into DH and I will have a job in my old office. My dentist has told me that personality is why she wants me there - something lese to consider.

I have no job!!! I am a dental hygienist and the market is oversaturated in TOronto. I agree. Help! I have two years experience, but now I can't find anything. I'm going crazy.

Why did Xincon College change their name? It now appears there is a school at that location called Strafford?

Does anyone know why?

TP in Toronto, Ontario said: Why did Xincon College change their name? It now appears there is a school at that location called Strafford?

Does anyone know why?

There is a change of ownership. The dental hygiene program is still operating.

DJL in Hamilton, Ontario said: There is a change of ownership. The dental hygiene program is still operating.

Have you heard anything about the dental hygiene program? Is it better now that ownership has changed?

TP in Toronto, Ontario said: Have you heard anything about the dental hygiene program? Is it better now that ownership has changed?

No its the same.

DJL in Hamilton, Ontario said: There is a change of ownership. The dental hygiene program is still operating.

Terrible... KEEP AWAY

TP in Toronto, Ontario said: Why did Xincon College change their name? It now appears there is a school at that location called Strafford?

Does anyone know why?

Because they are such a bad school. Who knows what they (Xincon/Strafford whatever) will call themselves next year. Same with George Yonge now they are operating under the Trillium name. Just look at Trillium success rate at the National Board it's pretty bad. George Yonge has had made names.. Now Trillium ... KEEP AWAY.

dh in Thornhill, Ontario said: To HaHa, why are you being so mean and insulting to others on this forum. This forum is set up for people to discuss all things related to the dental hygiene profession, which unfortunately, now includes topics such as the oversaturation of the market due to too many dental hygiene schools which has caused the hourly rate to drop. I agree with everything that 30 year vet has said. She makes valid points. Why insult her and call her names and tell her that she should retire? When I became a hygienist I wasn't looking to work for 5 years and call it quits. I only hope that I am able to work for 30 years. Hygiene shouldn't only be a profession for those in their 20's. You too will get old one day. We are supposed to be professionals! Enough with the nasty immature comments.

Thank you for your comments, but not to worry about HaHa's crude comments. The facts are that Ontario has allowed for far too many DH SC Schools to be built...with far too many grads....and, as a result, the market is saturated...our bargaining power is diminished....our job opportunities are slim. It's all unfortunate. I've loved dental hygiene....it's been a great career and while I would have encouraged anyone to go into it for the last 25 years, I have to say for the last 5 years, I've been NOT ADIVISING people to check into hygiene. Until this over saturation has been dealt with, we are doing a disservice to students to suggest that there are 'all these jobs' waiting for you when you get out.....THEY AREN'T!

What happened to the College of Oral Health Care Professionals in Ajax, are they still operating?

30 year vet in Edmonton, Alberta said: Thank you for your comments, but not to worry about HaHa's crude comments. The facts are that Ontario has allowed for far too many DH SC Schools to be built...with far too many grads....and, as a result, the market is saturated...our bargaining power is diminished....our job opportunities are slim. It's all unfortunate. I've loved dental hygiene....it's been a great career and while I would have encouraged anyone to go into it for the last 25 years, I have to say for the last 5 years, I've been NOT ADIVISING people to check into hygiene. Until this over saturation has been dealt with, we are doing a disservice to students to suggest that there are 'all these jobs' waiting for you when you get out.....THEY AREN'T!

Dont worry she has a PHD in education and labour market issues. She knows better then the CDHO, CDAC, MTCU, NDHCB - BNCHD, CDHA, CDHE, Ontario Universities and Colleges, Career Colleges... YES SHE IS CRAZY!

TP in Toronto, Ontario said: What happened to the College of Oral Health Care Professionals in Ajax, are they still operating?

Yes it is gone like, Xincon, George Yonge, AIBT, soon to join them will be all others with NDHCB results less than 50%. Also some Accredited Schools under review are in trouble. A little birdie Whispered this in my ear.

The College of Oral Health Care Professionals in Ajax was a better school run by RDH's but the CDAC like's to sabotage good organisations due to self interest and conflicts of interest.

RDH in Toronto, Ontario said: Dont worry she has a PHD in education and labour market issues. She knows better then the CDHO, CDAC, MTCU, NDHCB - BNCHD, CDHA, CDHE, Ontario Universities and Colleges, Career Colleges... YES SHE IS CRAZY!

Why do you have to be so unprofessional and petty? Name calling?? How old are you?? You can't really be a RDH, a real RDH would not lower themselves like you do. How sad. The only thing that is "crazy" is if a poor student pays $35,000+ to a private career unacredited Dental Hygiene college where the students are so poorly trained that they fail the NDHCB exams at a high rate. Don't worry everyone, the government is cracking down on these "schools" real soon, I know this for a FACT!!!

Lindsay in Saint John, New Brunswick said: I also asked the school ahead of time how I could prepare for their admission exam and they told me that there was nothing I could do to study as it was skills that I would have acquired in high school.

i took the addmissions exam aswell! i was totaly nervous but it was probably the easiest thing i have ever done..all you really should look over is spacial relations..its the only part i found slightly tricky..but the rest was EASSY PEASSSY LEMON SQUEEZY!

I have a feeling my 'phone interview' with TCDHA is tomorrow because they called today and I missed it so I am calling them back tomorrow. Does anybody know what the interview questions are?!?!! or what they could be?

jas in Surrey, British Columbia said: Can anybody tell me which is the best college to do DH in toronto area? i am really thinking about doing this but there are quite many colleges in toronto? how would u tell one better then other?

Hi there,

Looking how DH is going today, I would not recommend you to go to a private school in Toronto. It's not worth the money, and there are not many job opportunities right now. So I would tell you to use that money you'd invest in DH schooling for a different program. There are a lot of new grads here in BC and not enough jobs. And if you really want to do DH because of the money, you're wasting money instead of producing money! You'll be in debt for long time!

nojobs in Toronto, Ontario said: Any one know how long a private dental assistant college course is?
How much is the program in Ontario, compared to Dental Hygiene?
There are so many dental assistant jobs available, I hear new grads
are getting 20.00 per hour now.
40K is not bad for a career in demand! And you can get full-time work near where you live very easy. The negative thing about dental
hygiene is that there is little assisting skills taught, why not enter an affordable career with plenty of job opportunities and then
work your way up down the road when many of the dental hygiene
colleges close due saturation.
to little

DH is no longer a demand. Thanks to all the private schools opening up in Toronto. And besides private schools will never train you well as a reputable school!

openwide in sudbury, Ontario said: 30 year vet in edmonton, Alberta, you are fantastic!
I don't understand why the CDHO has let our profession down. If it's mandate is to protect the public, it sure has dropped the ball in allowing the unaccredited private RDH colleges to operate as they have. Someone is going to get hurt, and then the crap will hit the fan.

Best wishes to you 30 year vet, openwide in Sudbury, ON , where there are ABSOLUTLEY no Hygiene jobs, and the ones that exist are paying $20.00 an hour.

I agree to this!!! It's such a disappointment that these private schools are even allowed to be teaching. All they do is fail their students anyway! It happened to two girls I know!!

I'm just a student (yes, in a non-accredited college) but I'm no spring chicken and can figure things out on my own pretty quickly. I can see that many of you are upset about the career you chose and you'd rather spend time posting negative comments in this forum instead of being proactive. A comment was made regarding a union and this might be a good start.

My real reason for posting is to make an important comment about unaccredited schools - mainly because I go to one and feel a real need to defend my education.

A) Look at the aggregate results of the board exam and you will see that many accredited schools are not doing too well - some non-accredited schools are out performing them. The bottom line is that you get out of a program what you put in to it.
B) The CDAC works for the CDHO. They are there to PROMOTE accreditation - they set up the system. It seems ironic to call them for information on accreditation. Of course, they will tell you to go to an accredited school! It's like calling up FORD and asking them which car you should buy. What do you think they are going to tell you??
C) 3 schools that are accreidted may have their accreditation revoked this year. Wonder what they've been up to?

Good luck to everyone. I worked as a DA before I got into DH and I will have a job in my old office. My dentist has told me that personality is why she wants me there - something lese to consider

Complete B/S... do your research !!!!!!!!! When you graduate.. please come back to this forum and state whether you have the option to work in another province.. and if you pass the clinical board exams... and accredited schools being shut down? Never heard of that. lol. people.. do your RESEARCH. don't post anything that you are unsure of!!!

*ACCREDITED SCHOOOOOL* : Not all are great, but find the one that suits you the BEST!

des kat in yay said: Complete B/S... do your research !!!!!!!!! When you graduate.. please come back to this forum and state whether you have the option to work in another province.. and if you pass the clinical board exams... and accredited schools being shut down? Never heard of that. lol. people.. do your RESEARCH. don't post anything that you are unsure of!!!

*ACCREDITED SCHOOOOOL* : Not all are great, but find the one that suits you the BEST!

Perhaps you've had a bad experience and you're entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to work any province once I'm registered in Ontario. The provinces have an agreement that allow registered dental hygienists in one province to work in the other provinces..I've done my research. This is the problem in this forum..lots of misinformation. I'm happy with my choice, hopefully you're happy with yours.

Saying no to private schools in Vancouver, British Columbia said: I agree to this!!! It's such a disappointment that these private schools are even allowed to be teaching. All they do is fail their students anyway! It happened to two girls I know!!

Sadly, to get into some of these private schools, all you may need is grade 11 biology, and a minimum 60% average from grade 12. Some of these students who are getting in may not have the ability to 'DO THE WORK' of the program.....and a telephone interview to get in and spending their $35,000.00+ on their tution, they may not actually have 'the smarts' to pass the Board Exam. The idea that they will "TEACH TO PASS THE BOARD EXAM" and not actually "TEACH TO KNOW THE MATERIAL" is a real concern for these students.....

One last comment, there are just too many DH Schools in Ontario PERIOD.....34 is way too many (both accredited and nonaccredited)....... Look at the other provinces.....

thanks

openwide in sudbury, Ontario said: 30 year vet in edmonton, Alberta, you are fantastic!
I don't understand why the CDHO has let our profession down. If it's mandate is to protect the public, it sure has dropped the ball in allowing the unaccredited private RDH colleges to operate as they have. Someone is going to get hurt, and then the crap will hit the fan.

Best wishes to you 30 year vet, openwide in Sudbury, ON , where there are ABSOLUTLEY no Hygiene jobs, and the ones that exist are paying $20.00 an hour.

No worries Openwide.....any derogatory comments are simply ignored. My concern is with what is happening with my profession...My concern is what will happen with my profession. There may be dentists on this forum who are thrilled to death that there is a flood of RDHs in the market and that 'somehow they've won their big battle'......There are also many dentists who truly are appreciative of RDHs like myself, who are an integral part of the Dental Health Team. I have been self employed as a RDH for 30 years and subcontract my services to a few different dentists. None of them would ever want me to stop working because I've been trained by the same physiology prof, the same histology prof, the same oral pathology prof, etc as THEM at the same University as them. This is the standard of education, the standard of educators we've had to practice within dentistry and dental hygiene in Alberta. They have told me they would not hire an 18 month grad because of their professional ethics.

Dont worry she has a PHD in education and labour market issues. She knows better then the CDHO, CDAC, MTCU, NDHCB - BNCHD, CDHA, CDHE, Ontario Universities and Colleges, Career Colleges... YES YOU SHOULD EARN MARKET RATES... I think their is an ego and IQ problem with Edmonton and some of you. HAHA Dentist have 7 years of proper education!

Did you know that Universities are also private corporations. So why so much animosity towards private schools?

Most Universities in Canada are not private - they are publicly funded, and thus within the public education system. They are governed by different rules than Private U's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_university

Animosity towards private schools is multifold:
1/ there are too many of them! They are flooding the market with twice as many grads as there are jobs for. Public schools did a better job meeting the demand, although they did fail to meet the demand for several years. The flood is so overwhelming that the free market will eventually kill some of them off - as the demand for hyg falls, so will the numbers of students applying, eventually. When they do close their doors, it is likely that some students may lose their tuition money and years spent in school - this has happened with numerous private schools in various fields in recent years.
2/ Public schools are accepting a lot of lousy students! The entrance requirements (esp in Ontario) amount to taking a pulse and checking the candidate's wallet. In BC, the public DH schools require a full year of university-taught prereqs that would weed out a lot of these semi-literate assistants and wannabes. When they do enter a fastrack program, they may be taught some of the material from the missed prereqs, but they are not taught at a university level. This results in more undereducated taking and failing the board exams, and who knows what other danger to patients down the road. These one will never be capable to contributing to the profession beyond mundane clinical work.
3/ Some private DH post secondary schools are rather fly-by-night. They stay open only as long as they are profitable. The owner(s) are not always qualified or scrupulous educators. Many have not been in existence a long time, and are thus unstable

Saying no to private schools in Vancouver, British Columbia said: I agree to this!!! It's such a disappointment that these private schools are even allowed to be teaching. All they do is fail their students anyway! It happened to two girls I know!!

Well one thing is actually good to hear. I notice that one private school in Vancouver (VCDH&DA) has much better-performing grads on the boars than their counterparts in Ontario. That must mean they are making a concerted effort to weed out the bad ones by failing them. Still, they have doubled the number of new grads in BC compared to 3 years ago.

All Universities are Private Corporations! Independent of Government. Thats how it is, and that's how it should be to avoid corruption.

No self respecting University would allow its academic freedom to be dicated by Government or Government Policy. If it did this would be a sad thing as our freedom of thought would be removed. Our freedom od expression is already under treath by civil servants, lawyers and small minded people. This is NOT the Soviet Union. Stalin did fail after all.

skrrrrrr in Victoria, British Columbia said: Well one thing is actually good to hear. I notice that one private school in Vancouver (VCDH&DA) has much better-performing grads on the boars than their counterparts in Ontario. That must mean they are making a concerted effort to weed out the bad ones by failing them. Still, they have doubled the number of new grads in BC compared to 3 years ago.

There are going to be more private colleges opening up in BC. I have heard of three in the Vancouver area.
There was a loophole found around the Ontario system to open up private colleges and the word is getting out
about Vancouver. With the accreditation under review by the ontario dental hygiene association, many will be fleeing
to BC.

At least we will have a balance around the country, many in the east and now many more in the west.

HAHA in Toronto, Ontario said: Dont worry she has a PHD in education and labour market issues. She knows better then the CDHO, CDAC, MTCU, NDHCB - BNCHD, CDHA, CDHE, Ontario Universities and Colleges, Career Colleges... YES YOU SHOULD EARN MARKET RATES... I think their is an ego and IQ problem with Edmonton and some of you. HAHA Dentist have 7 years of proper education!

I just read a few of your postings. Please stop posting. You have nothing of value to add to this conversation.
Also, if you are a dentist then I feel sorry for you. Dont you have enough money? Give the hygienists on this board
a break, and go spend your money! Do something productive with your time.

HAHA in Toronto, Ontario said: THATS GREAT

Perhaps you are one of them. Like I said, go spend your money, you sound like a cheapskate.

HAHA in Toronto, Ontario said: THATS GREAT

Good HAHA, don't say too much anymore because we have noticed that you don't know the difference between then/than, their/there, how sad is that!!!! Where did you go to school??
I am blaming the CDHO for this huge mess we are in. The CDHO is an organization present for the purpose of protecting the public. They have definitely fallen short in their mission. The administration needs a shake up. The higher the quality of education, the higher the quality of graduates, hence, the safety of the public will be ensured.

Ontario University System in Toronto, Ontario said: All Universities are Private Corporations! Independent of Government. Thats how it is, and that's how it should be to avoid corruption.

No self respecting University would allow its academic freedom to be dicated by Government or Government Policy. If it did this would be a sad thing as our freedom of thought would be removed. Our freedom od expression is already under treath by civil servants, lawyers and small minded people. This is NOT the Soviet Union. Stalin did fail after all.

There is no 'academic freedom' in dental hygiene diploma programs. The curriculum is dictated by the regulatory authorities, and there is little room for 'freedom' to stray far from it. Academic freedom pertains to the independence of professors and deans to pursue research and discuss a wider perspective on phenomena. Dental hygiene diploma schools on the other hand, are not interested in 'widened perspective,' nor doing research, they are about training clinicians on a rigid set of information and a rigid set of clinical skills. This is as it should be, like most other skilled trades dental hygienist must achieve a set standard of care that the people can rely upon when they see the 'RDH' beside your name. There should by minimal difference in the quality and content of the education of a hygienist in a private school vs a public school (nevermind that you are confused as to what constitutes a 'public' school - I covered that issue already).

skrrrrrr in Victoria, British Columbia said: There is no 'academic freedom' in dental hygiene diploma programs. The curriculum is dictated by the regulatory authorities, and there is little room for 'freedom' to stray far from it. Academic freedom pertains to the independence of professors and deans to pursue research and discuss a wider perspective on phenomena. Dental hygiene diploma schools on the other hand, are not interested in 'widened perspective,' nor doing research, they are about training clinicians on a rigid set of information and a rigid set of clinical skills. This is as it should be, like most other skilled trades dental hygienist must achieve a set standard of care that the people can rely upon when they see the 'RDH' beside your name. There should by minimal difference in the quality and content of the education of a hygienist in a private school vs a public school (nevermind that you are confused as to what constitutes a 'public' school - I covered that issue already).

You have lost the argument as this is Institution specific not program specific. Also you will find most regulators including Dental Hygiene encourage differences and research. Also Public “Universities” are considered arm’s length “Private Corporations”.
You comments just show’s how a little knowledge from self interested people who lack knowledge is dangerous. I feel bad for the private school owners having to deal with attitude such as yours.

No you hav

Ontario University System - you are wrong in assuming there is equivalence between these private-citizen owned schools, and public universities. The key is two things: Public universities are largely funded by government and they are NOT owned by individuals, nor by groups, nor by private corporations. They are kept at arms length from government to a certain extent, but in the event the government wants to change them, they are totally beholden to the whims of government who hold the purse strings and strings of regulation over them. Private schools are governed by the whims of the individuals that own them - these people own the school like a businessperson owns a pawn shop or a strip joint - anyone can do it, and control it as they wish.

Private ownership can be good for private schools wishing to focus on achieving greatness (like Harvard), or horrible like the handful of the Ontario DH schools being run by individual businesspeople to more or less suck money from unsuspecting DH students in exchange for substandard education. Public schools currently do an obviously better and more consistent job than any and all of the private DH schools to date. That may change, but you must admit they are watering down the quality of the profession overall.

Just to add - public schools are run by a Board of Governors. This board consists of Government Appointees (from the Provincial government), as well as governers elected by the students, faculty and other univeristy stakeholders. It is all very complex, rigid, accountable and democratic and TOTALLY unlike what is known as a commercial Private Corporation. Private DH schools are run by Boards elected by the individual shareholders at best (a commercial Private Corporation) - or simply by the proprietor or partners that own the fly by night operation.

Most Public schools have started as Privates. Some have gone from Public to Private such as Columbia University. Others such as Yale, Stanford, Harvard are rated the best in the World. E.g. Harvard Dental School. Quality has nothing to do with Private and Public. There are good and bad Private and Public schools. Get over this Private and Public nonsence... Many Private schools in Ontario are very fine and have been established 10 to 100 years, these are not fly by night.