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I recently acquired my CDL Class A license. I went to an eight week nights and weekend couse at a very respectable school. When I got my CDL I was excited and ready to go to work. I was hired at a local company. My first and last day was a freaking nightmare. It waw supposed to be a 4 week training course. #1. The trainer had a bad BO problem from minute 1. #2.I had to endure this for 13 hours. #3. 2 ten minute breaks (if that) and no lunch break. #4. I was yelled at at least 4 times. #5. He tried to compress a 4 week couse into one day. #6. Last and not least, the guy slept while I was driving for at least 2 and a half hours!! Needles to say I did not go back and they begged me to give them a second chance. NO way in hell!!
Can anyone out there beat this?? Just wondering.

good luck. sounds like you went to Swift. I hear most places that take on new drivers are about the same. You just have to keep going through mentors until you get the right one or make it through the 6 weeks training. I personally went out of Swfit before that happened , because I have a problem with being lied to. I do not put up with it.

Hey Marcus,

Thanks for the reply. It was not Swift, I can tell you that. Right now I am working in a samll factory, just to build my confidence up. If all the companies are like that then they can all go to h. I might try for a dump truck driver job after winter. Later. Mark

I am sure they are not all like that. Problem is that the trainers are just in it for the money and do not have the desire to teach. A real teacher is a certain type person.
I will tell you that if you find a job as an end dump driver, I think you would like it. Best job I have ever had. Good money for doing nothing but driving around the town and some in state stuff. Home every night unless some out of town job comes up . But no insurance or benefits at most small companies. But what the hell it is experience and good work.

Mark in Lewisburg, Ohio said: I recently acquired my CDL Class A license. I went to an eight week nights and weekend couse at a very respectable school. When I got my CDL I was excited and ready to go to work. I was hired at a local company. My first and last day was a freaking nightmare. It waw supposed to be a 4 week training course. #1. The trainer had a bad BO problem from minute 1. #2.I had to endure this for 13 hours. #3. 2 ten minute breaks (if that) and no lunch break. #4. I was yelled at at least 4 times. #5. He tried to compress a 4 week couse into one day. #6. Last and not least, the guy slept while I was driving for at least 2 and a half hours!! Needles to say I did not go back and they begged me to give them a second chance. NO way in hell!!
Can anyone out there beat this?? Just wondering.

I went to werner enterprise as an otr trainie. The trainer's truck was spotless. The problume was it stank. The gye only showered once a week and he smelled worse than the truck. If that was not bad enough he would punch me of burn me with a cigareat if I made the littlest mistake. I called my student driver manager to request a new trainer and was given the choice of living with it or getting off the truck. Thank god we came across my dad in Springfield Ohio. Thanks to my bad time on the road with this gye I will never get in a truck again with someone I don't know. I would like to know if any one else has a similar expereince with a driver trainer. My email is zr2z71@yahoo.com Sincerly Richard C Cole former werner employee number 410355.

Richard,

Your experience with Werner is totally uncalled for. If you
have burned marks to prove it, I would sue them!! What you
went through is physical abuse!! When I worked one day I did
not go through that, thank God. What are your plans now?
I want to get a job as a dump truck driver or light delivery
driver. I went to school at Clark State in Springfield, Ohio.
ONe of my classmates went to Werner, but I do not know how he is doing. Right now I am working for a small factory in Brookville, Ohio just to build my confidence. Later, Mark in Ohio

marcus in Wichita, Kansas said: I am sure they are not all like that. Problem is that the trainers are just in it for the money and do not have the desire to teach. A real teacher is a certain type person.
I will tell you that if you find a job as an end dump driver, I think you would like it. Best job I have ever had. Good money for doing nothing but driving around the town and some in state stuff. Home every night unless some out of town job comes up . But no insurance or benefits at most small companies. But what the hell it is experience and good work.

Marcus,

Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas. I am trying for a job as a end dump driver, but no one is hiring right now.
IN fact the job market around here is terrible. I am applying for jobs as far as Norfolk, VA. DAyton, Ohio is a big GM city aand they are laying off like crazy. I want to get the experience, it will come in time. Later, Mark in Ohio

mfaller101 in Lewisburg, Ohio said: Marcus,

Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas. I am trying for a job as a end dump driver, but no one is hiring right now.
IN fact the job market around here is terrible. I am applying for jobs as far as Norfolk, VA. DAyton, Ohio is a big GM city aand they are laying off like crazy. I want to get the experience, it will come in time. Later, Mark in Ohio

Merry xmas. I can tell you that here in Wichita about april or maybe in March, it will be very busy for dump trucks end dumps and mixers. . We are building a new , I guess concert hall or whatever. It is large and expected to take 2 years. It is already under construction. They just started tearing down old buildings for it. There is always lots of that sort of work around here in the summer. Draw unemployment in the winter here and there.
Something to think about any way.

marcus in Wichita, Kansas said: Merry xmas. I can tell you that here in Wichita about april or maybe in March, it will be very busy for dump trucks end dumps and mixers. . We are building a new , I guess concert hall or whatever. It is large and expected to take 2 years. It is already under construction. They just started tearing down old buildings for it. There is always lots of that sort of work around here in the summer. Draw unemployment in the winter here and there.
Something to think about any way.

Also, some new casino's are going to be built here soon. Perhaps you might like it here in Wichita. Plenty of work for a guy with a clean record. The mixer guys advertise for trainee drivers alot. usually starts at about 13.00 , 12 for dumps. That is not bad pay for these parts.

how can i get a job driving a dump truck if i don't have any experience?

justin in Cleveland, Tennessee said: how can i get a job driving a dump truck if i don't have any experience?

well it is not that hard. Most dump companies just want you to be able to pass the drive test. Driving a dump truck is nothing. The end dump is a little harder to get but there are lots of places that will hire you. mixer guys will usually train you. I just have a problem because of my felony. But I and 2 others hired on as end dump drivers tight out of school. In a couple months or so it will be easy jobs to get around here.
The harvest crews are also good for some otr and local driving experience.

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marcus in Wichita, Kansas said: well it is not that hard. Most dump companies just want you to be able to pass the drive test. Driving a dump truck is nothing. The end dump is a little harder to get but there are lots of places that will hire you. mixer guys will usually train you. I just have a problem because of my felony. But I and 2 others hired on as end dump drivers tight out of school. In a couple months or so it will be easy jobs to get around here.
The harvest crews are also good for some otr and local driving experience.

hey email me at rawuser@cox.net . For some reason I can not post what I want to say. I get an error of vulgar language , personal attack and advertising. None of them apply.

justin in Cleveland, Tennessee said: how can i get a job driving a dump truck if i don't have any experience?

I posted my email to my own post. It was meant for you rawuser@cox.net I just can not say what I want on here for some reason. must be the company names

spammers do not sleep but all they get to do is send junk email. I'll just delete it.

Marcus, thanks for the info on the job situation in Wichita. It sounds really great there. The Dayton, Ohio area is depressed. There is no major construction going on. People are getting laid off. Truck drivers are being treated like dogs. Me moving to Kansas is something to think about. In fact, I just had a talk with the wife about moving to where the jobs are. I have pretty much had it with this area. Happy Holidays again!! Mark in Ohio

I have been driving a truck for thirty years and have never run into some of the problems you new guys are. That is terrible. I am now a drivers ed instructor and would never burn or punch someone for making a mistake. I am trying to open a cdl training course, sounds like you guys need someone who cares about teaching more then the money. I taught my brother to drive a truck. He use to cuss me out because of some of the things I made do with the truck. It took me 7 months before I let him test. He got a perfect score. He thanked me after getting his first job and driving on his own for about a month. I have a standing job offer as a trainer with his company. Some people do care, after all you are going to be on the road with me and my family. Don't give up, its a great carrer. Good luck to all of you. Joe

Joe, Thanks for the encouragement. Let me tell you though, what I went thru in one day, I will never forget. I worked for a company in Tipp City, Ohio for one day. What a nightmare. I had to endure a 13 hour day with a guy that stunk like a chicken coop. I had 2 ten minute breaks, with no lunch break. I was yelled at 4 times or more. The trainer got to sleep at least 2 and a half hours, this was while I was driving the interstate for the first time. The guy had a skin disorder, which I was not told about. I must have hooked up to ten trailers this one day. I did the math on sleep. I was expected to go home, get maybe 6 hours sleep and then come back and work another 13 hour day!! Did not add up. The company begged me to give them a second chance. I gave them stipulations. They could not meet any of them except to give me a formal letter of apology. This has left a bad taste in my mouth. Happy Holidays to you Joe and your family, Mark

Joe in Baltimore, Maryland said: I have been driving a truck for thirty years and have never run into some of the problems you new guys are. That is terrible. I am now a drivers ed instructor and would never burn or punch someone for making a mistake. I am trying to open a cdl training course, sounds like you guys need someone who cares about teaching more then the money. I taught my brother to drive a truck. He use to cuss me out because of some of the things I made do with the truck. It took me 7 months before I let him test. He got a perfect score. He thanked me after getting his first job and driving on his own for about a month. I have a standing job offer as a trainer with his company. Some people do care, after all you are going to be on the road with me and my family. Don't give up, its a great carrer. Good luck to all of you. Joe

Joe, Mark again. If you do open up a CDL class, tell the whole story. It is a lifestyle change for one thing. Mark

I went to a local cdl school. It is supposed to be a very good one. Well I can tell you that for some it is not. The class I attended was headed by the head instructor. He evidently did not like the students he was given . The other classes seemed to have a positive experience.
Our class however did not. Class started at 8:00, the instructor showed at 8:30 or so. He was outside smoking. We had about 2 hours a day of class between the 3 or 4 45 minute smoke breaks. After 1 week of class we started on driving skills. Same problem. We were supposed to start backing up after 3 days of driving on the range. We , however started backing 3 days before we took our cdl test. The other instructors were there and wanted us to start practicing 45 degree backing. We did not even know how. One smart assed instructor was showing us how to do it wrong . He finally got caught but nothing was said to him about it.. Fortunatly the instructor that gives the test cut us some slack and gave us more tries than he was supposed to so we could pass.
If not for one instructor showing us some tricks to pass the backing up test , most would not have a cdl right now.
I learned to back up when I got my end dump job. The man just told me " get in and go, you will learn " I did.
So anyone in Wichita ks should stay away from a well known technical college school on N Seneca.

Joe in Baltimore, Maryland said: I have been driving a truck for thirty years and have never run into some of the problems you new guys are. That is terrible. I am now a drivers ed instructor and would never burn or punch someone for making a mistake. I am trying to open a cdl training course, sounds like you guys need someone who cares about teaching more then the money. I taught my brother to drive a truck. He use to cuss me out because of some of the things I made do with the truck. It took me 7 months before I let him test. He got a perfect score. He thanked me after getting his first job and driving on his own for about a month. I have a standing job offer as a trainer with his company. Some people do care, after all you are going to be on the road with me and my family. Don't give up, its a great carrer. Good luck to all of you. Joe

any ideas where a person with a felony record might get employed as a new driver ?

If your classroom teacher is good, you need to at least have an idea of what to do with the truck when you get in it.Thats what you need to do, get in and go, pratical is the best way with a coach or trainer close by to help. again don't give up. have a good christmas

I am honest with drivers ed, I also teach motorcycle and am honest with that also. I do not have to look over my should and wonder what i said to any one person. they all get the same info. if they are willing to learn, iam willing to teach.

Sorry I don't but i would like to think that if you have done your time, someone would give you a chance. everyone makes mistakes. have you tried the internet. companies list if they will accept felonies or not. good luck

sure have. every one i could find to put in an app to

Glad you are honest Joe. I think the whole industry has the "Survivor" mentality. If you cannot cut it you will be voted off. I talked to a guy who just runs a yard moving trailers around, I could tell from the conversation how he treated his personnel. I know one thing. I know why truck drivers are mostly mean. They are sleep deprived!! Mark

Springfield ohio. Thats ware my trainer and I came across my dad 's truck and thats ware I got off his. I still have two scars on my right arm. I would sue them but its a little late now. This stuff happaned back in march. Im still looking for a local job and hope to find one soon. Thanks for your input on my situation.
Richard C Cole, exit 16 I88 Oneonta new york 13820

Hey Richard, Good luck on finding a job. I have come across several positions in my local area, but I am still traumatized from what happened to me. I told my story to two of my brother-in-laws over the weekend. I told them you just had to be there. Mark

justin in Cleveland, Tennessee said: how can i get a job driving a dump truck if i don't have any experience?

go to work for a asphault company that has its own dump trucks most of the time they will train you to drive there trucks

mfaller101 in Lewisburg, Ohio said: Hey Richard, Good luck on finding a job. I have come across several positions in my local area, but I am still traumatized from what happened to me. I told my story to two of my brother-in-laws over the weekend. I told them you just had to be there. Mark

Call hoke trucking he is looking for drivers

Where is hoke trucking anyway? And, how do they treat their drivers? Mark

Im a female just tryin to a least be givin a chance !! I worked hard to get my class A CDL. I have three months experience with dump truck IN FLORIDA but no one will give me the time of day around here! I have tried wearing dirty clothes while applying for a job! Its not my fault Im not dog ugly or overweight!! I have even thought about chewing tobacco HA-HA! I just recently cut my hair real short maybe that will help? I am currently driving for Safe Way Drive Away as a contract driver, transporting buses all over the US But what I really want to do is drive a dump truck so I can be home every night, I have 2 small children who miss me when I am away from home ANY SUGGESTIONS ?? CAUSE IM OUT OF OPTIONS - I HAVE APPLIED FOR SO MANY JOBS DONT KNOW WHERE TO GO NEXT!! but most of all I am tired of rejection!!!!!!!!!

This JEN again E-MAIL me at carpjnjn1@aol.com If you can help me, or have any suggestions!!!!

Hi,
Want to live in Wichita , Ks ? Cornejo and sons has no problem hiring girls. They always need drivers for mixers. But this time of year they want experienced mixer drivers. But come spring they will need dump end dump and mixer, they will train mixer drivers in the spring when there is lots of work. usually 14 an hour for mixer and 13 for end dump , dump may be 12 .
Kansas paving always needs drivers and they pay well and will train mixer drivers at 14 I think .
Lots of good dump and mixer jobs around here all the time. As long as you have a clean criminal record. In a month or so there is going to be a whole lot of hiring going on around here. Casino's going up. A new arena. Lots of construction .
There is a company , dont know the name, but they have the contract to haul off all the houses, thousands of them, and contaminated dirt from Coffeyville , ks. Destroyed in a major flood and contaminated when the oil refinery overflowed. That is going on right now.
I drive an end dump. not much money and no insurance but I have a violent felony on my record so I have to take a little less I suppose if I want to work.

Oh, by the way. 12-14 an hour here is decent money. living here is far cheaper than you are used to on the coast. 450 a month will get you a nice house with 2 or 3 bedrooms.

they are around greenville someware I think Joe hoke is the owner I think they have a terminal in huber heights but not sure from what I have heard they treat there driver very well but you also have acouple of other dump truck companys right around you or in dayton

Jennifer Carpenter in Union CITY, Ohio said: This JEN again E-MAIL me at carpjnjn1@aol.com If you can help me, or have any suggestions!!!!

Try jeff young trucking or you could try klingshire trucking or even rouheffer trucking but right now its kind of tough for dump trucks not much work. there is also lendamuth trucking I think thats how you spell it . I know he has a truck open but I don't have the number But he is around greenville he also hauls out of fort jeff stone quarry alot

HI MARCUS IN WICHITA!! I wish that I had the money to move I hate this town! I don't seem to be gettin' ahead livin here. I have transported alot of buses through Kansas, pretty flat land -like here- Maybe on my next trip I will stop at a casino, I pass by alot of them Ya never know, I might just hit the big bucks MY LUCK CAN'T ANY WORSE ! I have had my class A since may 2004 And its pretty bad that I had to go to Florida while vacationing with family, just to get 3 months experience in dump truck Luckily, my supervisor was my son in law I probably should have just stayed in Florida cause I'd still be working Im not perfect either, I had a Felony when I was 19 I am 35 now and IT STILL HAUNTS ME!! I guess women aren't supposed to blank up either !!

TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WITH BAD TRAINING Southern State Community Colloge in Wilmington Ohio has an excellent Truck Driving Acedemy !! My Dad is a diesel mechanic,and I grew up in the garage playing in the semis that he was working on. Never in my wildest dreams did I think i'd actually learn to drive one in just 3 weeks! YEAH SURE I WANTED TO KICK THE DARN TRUCK WHEN IT DIDNT WANT TO GO WHERE I WANTED! I was actually gonna drop out after the first week,but I stayed and did good for a girl! I scored 105 on my PTI and had a 90 GPA I had my Hazmat but had to let it go cause I didn't have the money to renew it AND YES TRIED SWIFT AND WERNER HA-HA I DONT THINK SO I am content just wanting to drive a dump truck again!!

Hi ABINGHAM Thank you for your info, but Jeff Young here in Union city said that the last time he hired a female his wife got jealous! GEEZZ !! I only wanted to drive his truck NOT HIM!! I have an old man couldnt handle two HA-HA Been to klingshire also with no luck! Called Hoke, gave his secretary OR WIFE my info but no one ever called me back! Tried Wagner Paving also with no luck! Last year I did go to an interview with a guy in Arcanum I even offered to pay for the drug test myself He called the next day and said he was gonna sell his truck YEAH RIGHT! He called me again this Sept. and said I hired a guy that is not showing up for work and wanted to know if I was still interested I told him to call me back next season, why work for 2 months and get screwed out of unemployment!!?? I will try those other names you mentioned, but Im not getting my hopes up HEY MAYBE THEY WILL GIVE ME A CHANCE SINCE I CHOPPED OFF MY HAIR ha-ha!

Friesteler Paving outta Sidney might be hiring a dump truck driver, but it won't be til at least April. Ask to talk to Chad Mooes. Another company would be Carson Trucking.

Have you thought about moving to upstate ny? There's going to be
lots of work this spring. Thats what Im trying to do now and I live here. My problum is I want to bury my past and start over again.

Hey guys (and gals), was reading your comments, i think i have heard of the place in tipp city as being bad as well! just got my cdl in last month and am looking for a part time job, driving on weekends, any suggestions?

good luck to all of you

I'M THINKING ABOUT GOING TO CDL TRAINING SCHOOL HERE IN IND.
HAVE CLASS C/AIR BRAKES WANT CLASS B FOR DUMP OR GARBAGE TRUCK
JOB HAS ANY ONE HEARD BAD THINGS ABOUT THIS SCHOOL, OR JOB MARKET HERE?

You should get a class A. Companies are getting away from the B. A lot of co. are upgrading to class a vehicles. Besides you may want to have more options like end dump . It will make you more employable.
Just a suggestion

well a class a would be good if i was still young. but I'm
56 and the I drive shuttle for avis fulltime and part time for fedex here in indy, and new airport will open in oct. they being avis won't need busses anymore.
so if I get b class I could drive garbage truck for a while
till I retire.

you got a point there. I thought you were a young guy. Garbage truck seems to pay well around here anyway. Good benefits also .

I see you referenced Hoek Trucking in one of your posts. Any idea where they went. I tried contacting them and the number is no longer in service.

theythey are still around there office is in huber heights they are in the old columbuss equipment building

Hey Mark, All that I know is that Hoke moved from Arcanum to the Huber Heights area, I know that he is still running, I heard he had bought new trucks. If you have any luck contacting him let me know. I will do some asking around myself.

Hoke moved to huber on taylorsville rd, across from the old hardfill. I f your familiar with the area, its where rip-rap rd turns into taylorsville rd. Im supposed to start there in mid december haulin salt from cincy to dayton area ODOT stations. Im a truck foreman for a local paving company, and things are tough. Lay-offs came early this year. Stupid economy screws alot of good hard working people. Just not fair.