Aveda Institute or Atelier Institute in New York???

teresa in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Im between two schools. Im not sure which type of curriculum would give me more opportunity when Im actually in the field. Im trying to decide between a 600 hour Aveda school and a 600 hr school who offers a slight intro to medical aesthetics. Natural vs. medical? Im not sure what type of setting I will want and I just want to make a wise decision as far as the job market goes. Any advice? Thanks!

Go medical route, its more informative. You can always educate yourself with products, it is more lucrative to have a medical/ aesthetic background, which you can incorporate natural products as well. The difference is understanding the uses of the machines/equipment. I went to the carsten-aveda school with an understanding that i would become well informed of both. Well, I wasnt! So afterwards, I went to laser school and and an advance medical school to become diversified in several different modules of aesthetics. Good Luck, hope you found the right school!

I'm about to start classes at Aveda in Soho...I really couldn't figure out why anyone would even go to Carsten-Aveda because it seems like a hair school that added on an esthi program. Even the website says so...so I wouldn't even think about their skin program.

I hear good reviews about Aveda in Soho. But it does seem like Christine Valmy and Atelier are better known and have longer-standing reputations. Although I spoke to an Atelier grad and she was disappointed in Ms. Hansen's frequent plastic surgery and attempts to hide it while working at the front desk. She said the education was good, but she didn't feel that it was a good representation of beauty.

I would have considered Atelier, but I was not interested in the medical side of esthetics. I may go for their laser program one day. I specifically chose Aveda in Soho because of the natural products. Every school uses one or a few specific lines so that really doesn't bother me. I just didn't want to use products that I personally wouldn't use on my own skin. I plan on either making my own products for personal use (I'm also a massage therapist), or using a natural line that's already out there.

However I did ask major spa HR rep which schools she recommended and her choices were Atelier, Christine Valmy, and Aveda. She said you can't go wrong with either one. But she did say NO to Lia Schorr and told me NOT to go there.

RioDiJolie in Red Bank, New Jersey said: If you really want a knock-out school, there is a school in upstate NY & one in Richmond VA that offer microderm, lasers, etc in their regular courses! Good luck...

Can you tell me please which school in Richmond? My daughter is looking for a good school there.

Thanks!!

Hello Fellow New Yorkers,

I have been reading the post here and haven't read much about jobs in NYC. I went to Esthetics school in Georgia, got a great education. Certified in MicroDerm, Microcurrent and LED treatments. My question to you all is.. How does the job market look in NYC for Estheticians? How much does a NYC Esthetician make a year?
Ive been thinking of moving there and was just wondering.

Thank You in Advance your option and useful information..
B

I graduated from Carsten Aveda Institute I took the cosmetology and esthetics courses( they don't offer medical program) and I really believe that it was the best choice of my life. and the education was fantastic! I don't think the person that make the comment (peaved from oakland NJ) is beeing honest, you are making things you can check the teachers licenses in the admisions office or the Directors office and they are licensed teachers for Esthetics and Cosmetology soooooo you dont know what you are talking about.

Only the lazy students read magazines in the school, when you are paying for an education you should not be allowed to be sitting around and do nothing and the instructors at Carstens never allowed that. I'm a Carsten Aveda alumni (just completed my 600 hours) no one gave me extra hours so that I can graduate! They allowed graduates to come back and practice with out charging for it. They give a lot of free services and we were able to practice, which was a great practice for us.

you sound like one former employee that was fired because you didn't do the job. Now you want to hurt the company .....are you the one? God doesn't like ugly don't forget the word Karma

you sound like one former employee that was fired because you didn't do the job. Now you want to hurt the company .....are you the one? God doesn't like ugly don't forget the word Karma

Hello everyone,

i'm considering going to Aveda institute in SOHO, and just wanted to know how the employment outlook is for a recent graduate. I want to get my license and start working part time until i finish my business degree in college and i would like to know if it's a good idea to look for part time work as an esthetician as oppose to full time.

I attended Atelier in the full time program last year (2010). In a matter of 4 months of hard work I graduated from Atelier Esthetique and immediately passed the state board written and practical exams. I had a new career!! I got my first job at a spa a week after graduating. If it wasn't for the staff at Atelier Esthetique I would not have been as prepared for my exams or for my new career! I also took the ITEC advanced class (2011 graduate) and earned the highest diploma an esthetician can receive worldwide.

Has anyone graduated from the Dermalogica esthetics program? I am interested in that one and Aveda. Any opinions?

Dermalogica is excellent as a brand and if they took financial aid, I would have probably gone there rather than Aveda. I do plan on going to the Int'l Dermal Insitute for advanced training. Aveda is wonderful because they train you as if you are actually working in a spa and you learn retailing and everything. And they do focus on hands-on mostly because from what I have been told, Aveda does utilize more massage in general.

But you will also learn things like chakras and acupressure meridians as well. If that isn't your thing(lucky for me) you may gloss over it. However, they do equip you with all of the knowledge you need to work in a medispa setting as well because some of the teachers themselves do that outside. Job outlook has been positive for Aveda grads since they do work hard to develop good relationships with business owners.

teresa in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Im between two schools. Im not sure which type of curriculum would give me more opportunity when Im actually in the field. Im trying to decide between a 600 hour Aveda school and a 600 hr school who offers a slight intro to medical aesthetics. Natural vs. medical? Im not sure what type of setting I will want and I just want to make a wise decision as far as the job market goes. Any advice? Thanks!

Just wondering what program you decided and if you are happy with it? I am trying to make the same decision, choosing between a more natural course with Aveda or going the more medical route using more machines, peels, dermbrasion etc.. Also did you have trouble finding a job?

I work full-time and have two kids so a full-time program or an evening program do not work for me. My only options are the weekends which leave me to choose between Lia Schorr and Atelier Esthetique. I visited both schools and thought that they were both "OK" (but not as nice as Aveda). Can anyone provide input as to which school is better in terms of education, reputation etc?

Hi

I'm thinking about attending New York School of Esthetics in Tarrytown, NY... does anyone have any info they can share with me on this school or Capri Beauty School (that's another school I was looking into)? Thanks for your help!

Alexis

alexis in Yorktown Heights, New York said: Hi

I'm thinking about attending New York School of Esthetics in Tarrytown, NY... does anyone have any info they can share with me on this school or Capri Beauty School (that's another school I was looking into)? Thanks for your help!

Alexis

Hey to Alexis...I know that the school in Tarrytown is SKIN only and they have a spa or something like that. Capri is for hair (with a side in skin), so it all depends what you want.. if you want hair go to Capri, if you want skin care go to Tarrytown. I went in the city to Lia Schorr, not the best or the worst, don't know if you are willing to go to the city. I do know that the two graduates I worked with from Tarrytown, know more then anyone else. But like I said, it depends if you want skin or hair. Good Luck

thanks a lot for your help

Has anyone attended Long Island Nail and Skin Institute in I think Hempstead? Any feedback greatly appreciated!

I have a cousin who went there and she loved it. I had a few facials done there and that place is amazing. You'll like it

One of the estheticians in my doctor's office went there and LOVED it. She could not say enough about the school and thought that they were very professional. I took a tour of the facility and found it to be very professional and an overall nice facility. They are always looking to add classes and keep up with changes in the industry. I was thinking about the school myself but am still not sure as to whether or not to go for a change in career yet. I hope this helps.

I'm thinking of taking both the Basic & Advanced make up courses at Christine Valmy In NYC. Has anyone taken them? Does the school help with job placement. Is it worth it or it is the same as a job at Sephora? Are there many openings for positions for a certified make up artist? I'm skeptical and confused...

Your questions are difficult to answer as makeup application is really a very general term which is used in a very wide variety of areas and require combination as well as specific skills. Some may require a certificate or a license. Some do not. In what areas do you want to work?

Makeup Artist - Demonstrator (where you show customers how to apply and apply makeup)

Commercial Makeup Artist - (where you are paid to apply makeup for a fee)

Media Makeup Artist - Working with still Photography

Theatrical Makep Artist - Designs and supervises actors for stage productions.

Motion Picture and television

Motion Picture and television Special Effects (FX)

IMHO I've listed these in the order of level of knowledge and training (Beginning with the least to the most (which usually includes each above it)). In other words, if you are considering commercial, you would want to first have experience in Demonstrator as the skills learned will be an important part of Commercial Makeup Artistry.

Thanks for the response Jeff! I've always been into makeup, but I was never sure what I wanted to do with it. I really want to get into an esthetics program, but unfortunately, with the time and money it requires, I'm unable to go right now.

Brandi in Bronx, New York said: Thanks for the response Jeff! I've always been into makeup, but I was never sure what I wanted to do with it. I really want to get into an esthetics program, but unfortunately, with the time and money it requires, I'm unable to go right now.

Then I would try to get on at Sephora.

Any make-up school suggestions??? I had my heart set on AOFM but they're next class session is booked and I am determined to enroll in a school for August 2011. I'm considering going to Christine Valmy for basic and advanced make-up courses in August... Has anyone taken these courses? If so how was your experience?

EJE in Jersey City, New Jersey said: Any make-up school suggestions??? I had my heart set on AOFM but they're next class session is booked and I am determined to enroll in a school for August 2011. I'm considering going to Christine Valmy for basic and advanced make-up courses in August... Has anyone taken these courses? If so how was your experience?

Exactly what type of makekup do you want to do?

EJE in Jersey City, New Jersey said: Any make-up school suggestions??? I had my heart set on AOFM but they're next class session is booked and I am determined to enroll in a school for August 2011. I'm considering going to Christine Valmy for basic and advanced make-up courses in August... Has anyone taken these courses? If so how was your experience?

I'm thinking of Christine Valmy also... Please keep me posted on what you decide and how you like it.

Jeff B I have seen many of your comments in my browsing the internet and value your opinions. Maybe you could help us with a decision. My daughter just graduated from college with a Visual Arts/Photography degree. Her dad is a Facial Plastic Surgeon with a Skin Care Department that could use a good photographer to better the over all program at the office..She could do before/after pictures of all procedures whether surgical, laser, Skin Care procedures, document cases, etc, etc.
We would love to have a highly trained aesthetician in our medical office and she would love to live in New York for several months (possibly go to Christine Valmy) to further her education in that area. She could use laser training as well as training in Imaging to incorporate her photography. We have looked into the Texas area as well as Colorado..... (We live in Louisiana)
You seem to be very knowledgeable and we were wondering if you have any suggestions to tie all these things together so we can be as organized as possible in this endeavor!

I'm thinking about attending the nail and skin institute in long island but I just found out the boces closer to me offers the program and it's cheaper do you think boces would be well respected by employers I eventually want to try and work in plastic surgeon office.. So do you think boces is credible or should I just take the 35 min drive to nail and skin institute and pay the extra money help pleaseeeeeeee

Hello
Please tell share with me, if I attend the ny school for esthetics in Tarrytown NY
will I be able to do laser treatments after the 600 hour class or is that more training at that school.

Also. where in new york can you get para medical aesthetics training Tarry

Hello everyone! I'm planning to attend to Dermatologica Academy in NYC. Is anyone here a student there? Please, I need honest opinion about this place! Do they help with job after? Thank you!!!

Hello, I am new to this board and I am trying to decide on a school to attend. I went to Atelier to check out the school and while they seem on the up and up I noticed there were some issues and frustrations going on amongst the staff as well as a lack of organization. I like the fact that they seem well versed in their curriculum, however I think I will check out Aveda as an alternative because I think that's more of my personality.. P.S Annette Hanson's picture is ALL over the place...diva

Marie D. I now attend the Long Island nail and skin care Institute (part time) and I love the Esthetics program! My instructor is very knowlegeable and big on "HANDS ON" as well as work book studies. I've been attending this school for 3 months and I have no complaints thus far.

AnnieWannie in Bellmore, New York said: Marie D. I now attend the Long Island nail and skin care Institute (part time) and I love the Esthetics program! My instructor is very knowlegeable and big on "HANDS ON" as well as work book studies. I've been attending this school for 3 months and I have no complaints thus far.

Hi..does Long Island skin offer financial aide?

Regretful.... in Oakland, New Jersey said: Go medical route, its more informative. You can always educate yourself with products, it is more lucrative to have a medical/ aesthetic background, which you can incorporate natural products as well. The difference is understanding the uses of the machines/equipment. I went to the carsten-aveda school with an understanding that i would become well informed of both. Well, I wasnt! So afterwards, I went to laser school and and an advance medical school to become diversified in several different modules of aesthetics. Good Luck, hope you found the right school!

What school did you go to for your advanced studies?

Hi everyone! I love seeing all the feedback and I'm so glad I found this board. I am currently looking at Gary Manuel Aveda Seattle and Aveda NY,NY. I'm really open to cooing anywhere in the country I just want the best esthetics program available. I've heard a lot of you say you did continuing education for advanced medical, laser etc. Does Average offer continuing education for this? If not what are the best advanced studies schools in the country?

bellasugar said: Hi everyone! I love seeing all the feedback and I'm so glad I found this board. I am currently looking at Gary Manuel Aveda Seattle and Aveda NY,NY. I'm really open to cooing anywhere in the country I just want the best esthetics program available. I've heard a lot of you say you did continuing education for advanced medical, laser etc. Does Average offer continuing education for this? If not what are the best advanced studies schools in the country?

Aveda not average and going not cooing typing from my phone!;)

Hi my daughter has looked at several schools. After visiting Aveeda and one more school in NYC she is considering the New York School of Esthetics in Tarrytown, NY. Has anyone attended that school? Feedback please.

I'm currently attending Christine Valmy in NYC for the 600 hour Esthetics course and LOVE IT! I'm half way through the program and it's the best choice I made. I talked to people who went to both Altelier and Aveda. They said Altelier had a high drop out rate and Aveda made you work lots of extra hours that you didn't get credit for. I checked out Altelier and hated the school, it looked like a dungeon and when I was getting a tour I felt like the students were trying to stare holes into my body. CV just moved into a new location and is absolutely beautiful. Amazing views of the Empire State Building and NYC skyline from the clinic. The teachers and great and everyone is so friendly. The students are a diverse group. I'm learning a lot and really having fun. They are one of the NYC locations for the State Board Exams, and they also teach ITEC courses. I am very happy with my choice so far.

I was originally thinking of attending a school in the city but I would prefer to skip the commute and attend a school on Long Island. Is there any reason that you chose to attend a school in NYC rather than a Long Island school (since you don't live all that far from Long Island). I was thinking about the Long Island Nail and Skin Care Institute or the New York Institute of Beauty in Syosset, Long Island. Have you, or anyone else heard of these schools?

I love being in NYC and commuting by train. I hate to drive to Long Island. Plus the only schools I heard anyone talking about were those in the city.

Hi, I went to Look at Aveda last week, I wanted to ask those who have attended if they have found jobs after attending the esthetics program? Did Aveda help with job placement? Is the cost of the program worth it?

I attended Aveda Institute in NYC full time for four months and graduated in November 2010. With my retail cosmetics experience and manager past work, I was hired to run a spa in midtown full time. In addition to my salary I also made extra commissions and gratuities ion esthetic services. 2011 was my most lucrative year EVER. I highly recommend Aveda over other schools because of the retail and waxing training. Other schools DO NOT give you much training in this area and as a manager I have interviewed many estheticians from Valmy and Atelier who just could not wax, esp brazilian waxing which is a demand in NYC. In a year I plan on returning to Aveda to teach. Good luck in your search and career! :)