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Dominique in Harker Heights, Texas 9 months ago |
HI Anna, I'm looking into Esthetician Schools I live in Harker Heights but see the only schools really are in the Austin area. I have toured Baldwin Beauty College, Avenue Five Institute, and Paul Mitchell Academy. They all do have thier own unique appeal, But I'm very unsure about what school is going to offer me the best education. Since you have been in the buisness for years, what would be your best recommendation. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much!!! |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Harker Heights, Texas 9 months ago |
Dear Dominique,
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Kelly L. in Elgin, Texas 8 months ago |
"PJ" in Panama City, Florida said: I have worked in the plastic surgery field for over 20 years and at this time everyone wants to be a medical aesthetician. Unfortunately, the number of plastic surgeons is much less than the number of aestheticians that are being graduated. It is very difficult to get an office to hire someeone recently graduated. I think it is quite unfair that these schools are telling students that it is so easy to break into this market. As a manager for these physicians one needs to appreciate the fact that we are swamped with resumes for positions. ------------------------------------------------- Ok than what field is booming? What fields are actually worth pursuing? Besides nursing and engineering. What fields exist in our nation's condition that does not require you to be a damn rocket scientist? Technology is moving way too fast for us to keep up. If you ask me college is worthless UNLESS you manage to pull off being excepted into nursing school, engineering school, or a computer/technology school. |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Kelly in Elgin,
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
First of all, let us all get clear here. A medical assistant (MA), licensed vocational nurse (LVN), licensed practical nurse (LPN), registered nurse (RN), and physician assistant (PA) are all medical technical licenses respected nationally that all work under a physician. Any of these licensees can be called "medical estheticians" if doing skincare services in a medical setting if the physician so chooses to do so. Second, if a physician so chooses to hire a non medical licensee, like a cosmetologist or esthetician, he does so with great care as esthetics or cosmetology school simply DO NOT provide the clinical background needed to assist in pre and post operative esthetic procedures. Becoming a laser technician does not make you a medical esthetician either. It is tragic that the once laser machine companies that gave you free training in the doctor's office because the pysician bought the apparatus are now selling these unethical programs! As of yet, no state in the US offers a medical esthetician license! So to call yourself a Licensed Medical Esthetician (LME) is not only a lie, but grounds for malpractice. Medical estheticians are ususally certified by someone like an instructor, organization, or a school. So look at the credentials and experience of those groups before dishing out money for a title that was self created by the industry. Your best bet is the experience of the instructor teaching the course and his/her years of experience performing these post graduate protocols."Paramedical" was a designation created by the make-up industry to state that you knew paramedical make-up artistry (camoflauge) for burn surviviors, patients with vitiligo, etc...This term was coined my the great Marvin Westmore of The Westmoere Academy of Cosmetic Arts. The term paramedical esthetician (PME) is one misused by schools all over the country to sell very expensive degree and non-degree programs. These students truly believe that they are "Licensed Medical Estheticians". |
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
So, be careful choosing programs, courses or schools and always look at the credentials of the "instructor" teaching the course. Also, not to be rude, but a physician or medical licensee who does NOT practice esthetic medicine or esthetics CANNOT teach you about it either. This industry has grown largely due to the non-insurance cash profit it provides the medical office. Be careful of 1 to 2 day courses that cost a few thousand dollars. And under no circumstance should a medical esthetician "inject" anything without al leasts a medical assisting license. This is highly unethical and outside the scope of your practice. Also, estheticians please understand that physicians prefer "experience". Work anywhere and get experience first before you apply with a doctor. Also, you cannot dress, act or speak innapropriately and expect to work within a medical team, usually always run by his/her office manager which is always an RN. The terminology and spelling that you use on these blogs also are not acceptable in the medical office. Please be educated and mature. It does not hurt to be dually licensed in massage therapy, medical assisting or have certifications in micropigmentation (facial tatooing). Good Luck to all of you!
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
The problem with Florida is that here you have a state where a Facial Specialists (FS) has under 300 hours of training and yet there are schools that are offereing Associate Degrees in "Paramedical Skin Care" for tens of thousands of dollars. These graduates are told that they are "Licensed Medical Estheticians". There is no such license in the US. By the way, "paramedical" is a term coined by Marvin Westmore of The Westmore Academy of Cosmetic Arts. "Paramedical esthetician" or (PME) was a make-up artistry designation that let doctors know that you knew camoflauge make up (paramedical make-up). Again, we have an industrty using terms to make money. This is very sad. Tino Lerma
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Tino,
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Tino,
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Tino,
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lpt in Bakersfield, California 8 months ago |
I would be interested to know which states have a Medical Esthetician License available. Or are you just talking about a certification course? lpt |
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Anna Dee Rinehart, I, indeed, remember your program at Scott and White and also remember the Clinical Skincare Specialist (CSCS) designation people were using after your program back then. You definately are a pioneer. Thank you for you input and opinion. I hold the first Full Curriculum Specialty Esthetics Instructor License in the state of Texas (1996)and have been teaching in the area of medical esthetics for 15 years all over the world. I come from the background of Terry Everitt, my medical esthetic teacher in the 90's, Christine Heathman, Paul Scott Premo, Dr. Pugliese, etc. and have been assisting the top physicians of their countries, among many others for quite some time. I have taught in 55 countries and work under a esthetic medicine physician and cosmetic chemist. I, like you have a passion for my industry. I also agree the hospital setting is a great place to teach medical esthetics, as it is taught in South America in extended programs, but I also believe that it can also be taught clinically in other settings as well. I am not here to promote myself in any way. I do however want to thank you for the insight you give these young estheticians everyday. It is invaluable information that they need to keep the image and respect that we work so hard in our careers to uphold. Keep up your good work and continued success in your career of teaching medical esthetics! Tino Lerma
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
lpt in Bakersfield, California said: I would be interested to know which states have a Medical Esthetician License available. Or are you just talking about a certification course? No states have a license just yet, but obviously there are some great full programs out there and single courses as well. Good Luck to you! Anna Dee can shed some light on the programs out there, including her own. Tino Lerma
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
This email is forward to Anna D Rinehart
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Shirley,
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
experience and credentials! I wish you luck. Take good courses on chemical resurfacing, microdermabrasion, LED, ultrasound, clinical skincare assessment, etc., but DO NOT leave nursing school. Maybe one day, when I am not travelling so much around the world, I would love to teach those post graduate courses again, until then, I am obligated to my skincare company. Also, be diligent in checking to see if an esthetician in a medical practice or hospital setting is accepted in your state. Remember that once you are a true practicing nurse, you will not have to worry about legalities. If you want to invest in any post-graduate program, feel free to do so once doing your research; just remember that trademarked titles are not true licenses. If the education received is worth it to you, by all means, go for it!
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
Also, dear Shirley, have you checked with Anna Dee Reinhart or Jeff Berns? Maybe if you are really interested, Anna Dee can come to you, if you get enough students for her in California. In the end, do not worry so much about the "title" because really a better name for what we do under a doctor is "Clinical Esthetics in a Medical Setting". If he wants to call you his "medical esthetician" as an esthetician, MA, LVN, LPN, RN or PA, he has every right. Tino Lerma |
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Big City RN in Mooresville, North Carolina 8 months ago |
Laura in Surprise, Arizona said: I'm planning on going to school for estetics after i'm done with cosmetology school in Alaksa. My question is whats the difference between medical esthetician and the other types, and also is there specific schools to go to to become a medical esthetician rather than work in a spa and that sort of thing? One more thing about how much does an esthitician make?Thanks!! Here in NC a cosmetologist can do everything , including what a esthetician can do under their cometologist license. Medical esthetetcian is usually a specially trained nurse (RN,LPN/LVN) |
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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
Big City RN in Mooresville, North Carolina said: Here in NC a cosmetologist can do everything , including what a esthetician can do under their cometologist license. Medical esthetetcian is usually a specially trained nurse (RN,LPN/LVN) This then would be an Esthetic Nurse. The term "Esthetician" Relates to cosmetology. Just as there is no such thing as a "Medical Esthetician" this is equally said for a "Nurse Esthetician" |
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
Dear Tino
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
And Tino.. I've been reread again and again your advice above trying to remember them as a little guide in planing my career path.. |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Shirley,
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lulusophie1 in Huntington Beach, California 8 months ago |
I recently moved to the orange County area (Huntington Beach) and I would like to get some feed back on what's the best school to attend where I can pursue this...I want an ethetician license first than go on for my medical esthetician... Thanks a bunch! : ) |
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
Thank you so much Anna!
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
Dear Anna, Tino and everybody here with love!
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 8 months ago |
What do you think about Dermalogica advanced training course? |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Shirley,
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Shirley,
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Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas 8 months ago |
Dear Shirley,
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Shirley T in Montebello, California 7 months ago |
Dear Anna and Tino with all my respect!
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Deanna G in O Fallon, Illinois 7 months ago |
Jeff,
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Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas 7 months ago |
To aestheticians,
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Valerie RN in Grand Forks, North Dakota 7 months ago |
Tino Lerma in Dallas, Texas said: No states have a license just yet, but obviously there are some great full programs out there and single courses as well. Good Luck to you! Anna Dee can shed some light on the programs out there, including her own. Hi Tino,
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KR in Bedford, New Hampshire 4 months ago |
Heather B in Nashua, New Hampshire said: I am looking to go to school for esthetics..but I really want to learn absolutly everything about it..spa esthetics..medical esthetics ect.. I live in the awful state of New Hampshire and ive been reasurching schools in NH and MA. Can anyone give me some info on a really good school in NH or MA where I could learn everything about esthetics!Im currently interested in The institute of esthetics in concord NH. help :-) I live in NH as well but work in MA. I attended the Catherine Hinds Institute of Esthetics and they have a pretty comprehensive program and the staff is really nice and helpful. If you want a bit more focus on makeup artistry I would choose Elizabeth Grady. Both are good schools. |
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Amy D in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma 4 months ago |
i have been an esthetician for 4 years now and earlier this year i also got my CMA (certified medical Assistant). i am wanting to go into medical esthetics but i know here in OKLAHOMA there are no schools for that and not sure what the laws are as far as being able to preform lasers or not. I have someone i could stay with in Seattle and was wondering what schools were there and if i were to move there would my license be valid. I know if i have to i can go to the laser institute in Dallas for 2 weeks also. Any suggestions????? |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Harker Heights, Texas 4 months ago |
Dear Amy D.,
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Mary Wingate in Beaumont, Texas 4 months ago |
Dear Anna D., Thank you for sharing your expertise, guidance, knowledge and intensely pioneering spirit with me this past week. I have learned much from you and, in particular, how much more there is still to learn in order for me to become a competent and skilled medical aesthetics professional. Many thanks to you for your encouragement and direction--you've re-energized me to decide and push toward a goal to specialize and hone my skills in electrolysis and (most likely) tattoo removal. I know I am only a neophyte in this area though I definitely agree with you in terms of tremendous market demand and growth potential for skilled aesthetic professionals who can provide effective, economical, readily accessible services--in a humanly personalized way. I came to this online forum to read about the professional organization you advocated not realizing I would find out so much more. I'm very appreciative to you, Anna D., your department and to the Metroplex Health System/Advent Hospital (?correct?). Until we talk again, take care. Mary Wingate, RN |
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Nicole Blitz, LVN in Rancho Cucamonga, California 3 months ago |
Dear Jena, In the state of California, in order to preform procedures under a medical director, for things such as chem peels, botox and fillers, laser procedures and on and on. It is not within your scope of practice as an esthetician. In order for you to do so you need to be a licensed nurse with specialized certification courses in dermatologic procedures. Start with obtaining your LVN and then get specialized certification courses such as IV certification. After you receive those you can get certification for cosmetic procedures and your RN. Invest in your future its worth it, as well as research what your nursing scope of practice acts are in the state of California. I hope this is helpful information for you. |
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Sandy in Woonsocket, Rhode Island 2 months ago |
Dear Anna and Jeff, I wish this forum was available a long time ago but better late than never...I've had the same questions that everyone else had in this forum. I couldn't get any straight answers and now I know why, verrrry confusing even with all the research I did.. I never had the courage to actually go for it considering how expensive it was. I have my bachelors in psychology then worked as a research assistant. Ive become unemployed this past year and decided to go back to what I always wanted to be.... All the questions I had were answered in the 2 hours of reading these posts. Its nice to know that Im not the only one out there . I am grateful to live near Catherine Hinds and Elizabeth Grady. I heard many great things about these schools. I had no idea how lucky I am compared to others that are struggling to find a great school. I plan on attending one of these schools to then further my credentials when the time comes. I just wanted to let you guys know how grateful I am. Thank you
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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas 2 months ago |
Sandy in Woonsocket, Rhode Island said: Dear Anna and Jeff, Having a background in psychology will actually be very helpful in discussing and marketing esthetic services (especially in anti-aging, pre and post operative procedures and relating to oncology). In understanding the motives involved in people seeking our services can help tremendously. Jeff |
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Amy Henry in Killeen, Texas 2 months ago |
Ms. Anna D Rinhart, Could I please have your email address so I can contact you directly? Thank you |
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Anna D. Rinehart in Harker Heights, Texas 2 months ago |
Dear Amy,
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Anna D. Rinehart in Harker Heights, Texas 2 months ago |
Dear Sandy in Rhode Island,
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Dallas mommy in The Colony, Texas 1 month ago |
Can someone please suggest good school in Dallas area. Want to do it but gets really confused with all the option that we have here in Dallas with ogle, Paul mitchell, ITS acedomy Plano, the salon professional acedamy. |
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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas 1 month ago |
Finding the best school for you is tricky. Especially when you don't know much about the industry and field. What area are you interested in? Cosmetology, esthetics, etc.
Is this for yourself or a member of your family? Email me privately and I will give you some helpful advice. Jeff aaea@earthlink.net |
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Donna in Omaha, Nebraska 25 days ago |
Hi Jeff and Anna, After reading through this thread and reading your great responses and words of encouragement, I myself need your candid advice. I left a hospitality sales career after 10 years to follow my dream of working in skin care. I got my esthatics license last November and am currently working on an on-call basis at a local hotel, while still pursuing a position with a medical office or medi spa. Omaha is a little behind the times with esties working in a medical environment. They areout there, but not many and it's super competitive. I know I need to get some solid experience that will help me lead onto such a position, but I am getting a little concerned about the job market. My question to both of you is should I concentrate now on getting a sales or rep position while I get that experience and if so, what is the best way to find a rep position with a good skincare line? I know I need to be out in the field to network and make those connections, but do most professional lines need a minimum number of years in the field before they'd even consider me? I have a very successful sales history and I thought with a license and some experience, I would be a good fit for a company. Your advice would be golden. Thanks again! (Sorry so wordy!) |
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Lisa M. in Arlington, Texas 2 days ago |
Anna D. Rinehart in Killeen, Texas said: Dear Tino, Hi there, I was hoping to gain insight on how to pursue a career in medical aesthetics. After going through this forum I have learned great information about this exciting field, but am still slightly confused as to what the best route to get into the industry is?
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