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tresa in Baltimore, Maryland

76 months ago

I have been an esthetician for about 3 years now and am ready to go to the next level and become a licensed medical esthetician. How do I go about doing that? Can I take a week course out of state? or are all those courses for doctors only?

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

75 months ago

jaclyn in Tacoma, Washington said: yes of course there are classes offering medical esthetics training, the person above have not done there research. there are quite of few all over the u.s., but the one i know that is really good is clover park tech in lakewood,wa. it's 6mo program and you can get certified or a degree out of the course, it's only $4,000 and you can get loans cause it is government funded. most "private schools" charge $6,000 to $8,000 and it's only a 2wk program. good luck, i hope this helps.

I think the question related to licensing and not certification which is different. I would be interested in know exactly what "degree" is offered.

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jaclyn in Tacoma, Washington

75 months ago

you can get an associate or bachleor degree in science with an certification in esthetics and/or medical esthetics, look it up girl! everyone knows you don't get a "medical esthetics" license in any state, but that you have to be licensed as an "esthetician" to do esthetics and once you have your license you decide what you want to specialize in and how much you want to educate yourself. :)

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Lorilie in Marshfield, Massachusetts

74 months ago

What if you're already have an esthetic license and are a RN,BSN.
What requirements and education is needed...and how to go about it.
Botox, Skin tightening...things that pretain to the RN degree.
Any help is appreciated.

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ather in Winchester, Virginia

74 months ago

hi, i am foriegn graduate doctor but i am not a board certified physician in the u.s. ,if i do a medical esthetics cetification, will i be able to work or will i need to work under aboard certified doctor as an esthetician in amedical setting?quick response required, thnx.

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hailey in Salt Lake City, Utah

73 months ago

I am a medical esthetician. I know in Utah they have a basic esthetician and a master esthetician. The master esthetician is a medical esthetician. I have gone to school to be a cosmetologist which gives you your basic esthetician in Utah, so i continued my schooling and went to school for the Master Esthetician. Now i do work for a dermatologist and cosmetic surgeon being a Master Esthetican. I went to Esthetic school at Cameo which is in Murray, UT. And they do have a plastic surgeon on staff so that you get hands on medical training.

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Mr D Instructor in Bozeman, Montana

73 months ago

Tiffany said: Usually, to be a "medical esthetician" You have to get some sort of training from your employer such as a dermatologist or plastic surgeon. I've never heard of anyone offering classes to become a licensed medical esthetician.

Have you checked out Institute Dermed in Atlanta or the Master's Program in Utah or the one in Virginia..it is all out there waiting for you to fullfill your dreams.

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WRV in Saint George, Utah

72 months ago

I'm looking to become a Master Esthetician and I'm split between two schools in the SLC area? Any advice in what to look for in a school that would make or break my education? Also does $10,000 - $13,000 sound resonable for tuition? Thanks !

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kay in Cicero, New York

72 months ago

I i want to learn and find out where to start ...idk if this is right but i want to be able to open my own office doing simple pro. such as botox and lip injetions .....what can i don where do i start can someone please help me out

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WRV in Saint George, Utah

72 months ago

hailey in Salt Lake City, Utah said: I am a medical esthetician. I know in Utah they have a basic esthetician and a master esthetician. The master esthetician is a medical esthetician. I have gone to school to be a cosmetologist which gives you your basic esthetician in Utah, so i continued my schooling and went to school for the Master Esthetician. Now i do work for a dermatologist and cosmetic surgeon being a Master Esthetican. I went to Esthetic school at Cameo which is in Murray, UT. And they do have a plastic surgeon on staff so that you get hands on medical training.

Hey, have your heard anything about the Skin Science Institude in SLC? While you were going to school at Cameo to become a master esthetician did you feel like they were able to concentrate on all the different dep equally? Do you think $12,900 for a entire program is worth it?

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jaclyn in Tacoma, Washington

72 months ago

heck no.

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WRV in Saint George, Utah

72 months ago

Heck no to what ? The cost of the tuition? What would you say is a resonable price?

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

BTW - You can also get Clinical/Medical aesthetics training via DVD for less than $800.00.

www.skinprosonline.com/main.sc

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

tresa in Baltimore, Maryland said: I have been an esthetician for about 3 years now and am ready to go to the next level and become a licensed medical esthetician. How do I go about doing that? Can I take a week course out of state? or are all those courses for doctors only?

there are a couple of options to become a Medical Esthetician. There is a program in Utah. There is also the first one ever in California. It just started in Poway, ca and is based off of the one in Utah. It is a 5month course for $9,000. At the end of the program you take a state test to become a "Licensed Medical Esthetician". There is such a thing people!

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: there are a couple of options to become a Medical Esthetician. There is a program in Utah. There is also the first one ever in California. It just started in Poway, ca and is based off of the one in Utah. It is a 5month course for $9,000. At the end of the program you take a state test to become a "Licensed Medical Esthetician". There is such a thing people!

Is this through the state cosmetology board?

jeff

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: there are a couple of options to become a Medical Esthetician. There is a program in Utah. There is also the first one ever in California. It just started in Poway, ca and is based off of the one in Utah. It is a 5month course for $9,000. At the end of the program you take a state test to become a "Licensed Medical Esthetician". There is such a thing people!

It is my understanding that the one in Utah is a Master Esthetician program. I don't know of one that is medical.

Jeff

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ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

Jeff B in Dallas, Texas said: It is my understanding that the one in Utah is a Master Esthetician program. I don't know of one that is medical.

Jeff

im not sure if it thro the cosmo board, im almost certain it is. I just had a meeting yesterday with the president of the school about this program. after the prgogram you take the test to become a licensed medical aesthetician. the lisence will not say california, it will say utah...but is still valid in california. If you like you can contact the school about it for more answers

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

ashley in San Diego, California said: there are a couple of options to become a Medical Esthetician. There is a program in Utah. There is also the first one ever in California. It just started in Poway, ca and is based off of the one in Utah. It is a 5month course for $9,000. At the end of the program you take a state test to become a "Licensed Medical Esthetician". There is such a thing people!

im not sure if it thro the cosmo board, im almost certain it is. I just had a meeting yesterday with the president of the school about this program. after the prgogram you take the test to become a licensed medical aesthetician. the lisence will not say california, it will say utah...but is still valid in california. If you like you can contact the school about it for more answers

I don't know where you are getting your information from. Utah only has a esthetician and master esthetician program. There is no Medical esthetician program!

www.dopl.utah.gov/licensing/cosmetology_barbering.html

is utah's site

Even the use of the word "Medical" would be objected to because a cosmetology board does not have the legal jurisdiction to control anything as a health provider.

I (as well as the AMA) would be really interested in seeing a state license which says "Licenced Medical Esthetician" from any cosmetology board.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

ashley in San Diego, California said: im not sure if it thro the cosmo board, im almost certain it is. I just had a meeting yesterday with the president of the school about this program. after the prgogram you take the test to become a licensed medical aesthetician. the lisence will not say california, it will say utah...but is still valid in california. If you like you can contact the school about it for more answers

Can you be more spicific. What is the name of the school in Utah? as for the Utah license being accepted in Calif., you are talking about reciprosity. However, since CA doesn't have a Medical esthicisian license they can't give a license this way even if Utah had one.

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Robin Rochester, MN in Saint Louis, Missouri

72 months ago

I have been trying to find this out for myself. We have the 'basic' esthetician training in my area 'Nova Academy'...facials,pimple squeezing, glyolic peels, etc...I want to be able to do more advanced things like TCA peels, Botox, lasers...things like that. I have decided that if I am able to do advanced skills then this is the profession for me...I am a skin-care junky, so I would be doing what I love! I have Googled for information on this sort of training in Minnesota and have came up with nothing. Can someone help me out? What skills can non-doctors or nurses do? We have a skin clinic in my area and I know some of the girls there are not doctors and they are doing lasers, TCA peels. It was too rude to ask them where they got their training but I sure would like to know. To summarize my inquiry; What can the most educated Esthetician do and where do they get their training?

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

as for utah, i do not know what school it is. all i know is that the san diego one is based off of the program in utah. but i know 100% that the one is san diego, when finished and the test is passes you are a "lisenced medical aesthetician"...it will say just that. this program just started August 26th at Poway Beauty Academy of Hair Design. If you want detail information, go to their website and/or call the school and talk to the president.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: as for utah, i do not know what school it is. all i know is that the san diego one is based off of the program in utah. but i know 100% that the one is san diego, when finished and the test is passes you are a "lisenced medical aesthetician"...it will say just that. this program just started August 26th at Poway Beauty Academy of Hair Design. If you want detail information, go to their website and/or call the school and talk to the president.

So let me get this straight.

After you take this program and pass your test, your license will state "Medical Esthetics" or "Medical Esthetician". Is this correct?

Jeff

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

yes that is correct. if you go to the schools webite, the program is called "master esthetics".....but once you complet the master prgrom and pass the final test your license will state "Mecial Esthetician"

again, if you dont belive me call the school

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Robin Rochester, MN in Saint Louis, Missouri said: I have been trying to find this out for myself. We have the 'basic' esthetician training in my area 'Nova Academy'...facials,pimple squeezing, glyolic peels, etc...I want to be able to do more advanced things like TCA peels, Botox, lasers...things like that. I have decided that if I am able to do advanced skills then this is the profession for me...I am a skin-care junky, so I would be doing what I love! I have Googled for information on this sort of training in Minnesota and have came up with nothing. Can someone help me out? What skills can non-doctors or nurses do? We have a skin clinic in my area and I know some of the girls there are not doctors and they are doing lasers, TCA peels. It was too rude to ask them where they got their training but I sure would like to know. To summarize my inquiry; What can the most educated Esthetician do and where do they get their training?

What state are we talking about?

Jeff

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bobbid in Rochester, Minnesota

72 months ago

I am in Minnesota...I do not know why St. Louis, Missouri showed up in my original post. I did not put it there.
"Robin Rochester, MN"
I asked about "I have been trying to find this out for myself. We have the 'basic' esthetician training in my area 'Nova Academy'...facials,pimple squeezing, glyolic peels, etc...I want to be able to do more advanced things like TCA peels, Botox, lasers...things like that." etc etc... that was me before I registered.
Thanks

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: yes that is correct. if you go to the schools webite, the program is called "master esthetics".....but once you complet the master prgrom and pass the final test your license will state "Mecial Esthetician"

again, if you dont belive me call the school

I'm curious, are you a Licensed Esthetician?

Jeff

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

yes i am. you have to already be a licensed esthetician to take the program.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

bobbid in Rochester, Minnesota said: I am in Minnesota...I do not know why St. Louis, Missouri showed up in my original post. I did not put it there.
"Robin Rochester, MN"
I asked about "I have been trying to find this out for myself. We have the 'basic' esthetician training in my area 'Nova Academy'...facials,pimple squeezing, glyolic peels, etc...I want to be able to do more advanced things like TCA peels, Botox, lasers...things like that." etc etc... that was me before I registered.
Thanks

The best thing to do is to call your state board and ask them "what is your scope of practice as an esthetician?". Most states allow the use of acids up to a certain strength and microdermabrasion to a certain level. Botox? Absolutely not. You will also have to be at least a nurse permitted by a nursing license to do injections. Lasers? Absolutely not. This usually requires a certificate as a laser technician and has nothing to do with your esthy license.

Jeff

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: as for utah, i do not know what school it is. all i know is that the san diego one is based off of the program in utah. but i know 100% that the one is san diego, when finished and the test is passes you are a "lisenced medical aesthetician"...it will say just that. this program just started August 26th at Poway Beauty Academy of Hair Design. If you want detail information, go to their website and/or call the school and talk to the president.

I went to their website but only find info as to a Master esthetician License and NOT one for Medical Esthetics.

From their website:

"Esthetician
The Esthetician program is one of the best of its kind in the nation. Poway Academy is the first in California to offer a Master Esthetician course teaching extensive medical spa training. Become licensed in Master Esthetics to meet the high demand of the rapidly growing medical spas."

The only mention of "Medical" is with the use of the term "Medical Spa". The fact that you work in a Medical Spa does not make you a Licensed Medical Practitioner (MA, RN, PA, etc.)

I don't know how clearer I can make this.

Only the State of California can License you and they only offer a License as an Esthetician and Master Esthetician. This is not a Licensed Medical esty. If this is what you are being told, have them put it in writing.

Jeff

Licensed Skin Care Specialist (retired, 42 years)
Clinical/Medical Esthetician

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bobbid in Rochester, Minnesota

72 months ago

Jeff B in Dallas, Texas said: The best thing to do is to call your state board and ask them "what is your scope of practice as an esthetician?". Most states allow the use of acids up to a certain strength and microdermabrasion to a certain level. Botox? Absolutely not. You will also have to be at least a nurse permitted by a nursing license to do injections. Lasers? Absolutely not. This usually requires a certificate as a laser technician and has nothing to do with your esthy license.

Jeff

Thanks
I was an LPN and on my way to an RN so I do have plenty of credits under my belt. I will have to do some searching about the Laser Tech...thanks.

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

again! i know that it say master, not medical. im saying when you take the final test at the end of the program....just like the state board test....your license will say "medical". i had a meeting with the president of the school yesterday and that is what i was told. this is the first time ever, so im sure you have never heard of this before. call the president of the school and ask.

again....the prgram say master....not medical. i know that. the licensed you are issued if you pass the test will say MEDICAL!

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: again! i know that it say master, not medical. im saying when you take the final test at the end of the program....just like the state board test....your license will say "medical". i had a meeting with the president of the school yesterday and that is what i was told. this is the first time ever, so im sure you have never heard of this before. call the president of the school and ask.

again....the prgram say master....not medical. i know that. the licensed you are issued if you pass the test will say MEDICAL!

Can you tell me who will adminiser the test? Is it the school or that state?

Jeff

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

the school came up with the prgram and has spent the past 3 years trying to get the state to approve it, and they finally did

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Utah should have a good Master program. Christine Heathman (if you are an easty, you know this name)helped to get this program instituted.

Jeff

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: the school came up with the prgram and has spent the past 3 years trying to get the state to approve it, and they finally did

This sounds more like a post graduate program.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: again! i know that it say master, not medical. im saying when you take the final test at the end of the program....just like the state board test....your license will say "medical". i had a meeting with the president of the school yesterday and that is what i was told. this is the first time ever, so im sure you have never heard of this before. call the president of the school and ask.

again....the prgram say master....not medical. i know that. the licensed you are issued if you pass the test will say MEDICAL!

Well I can be wrong. But today being Sunday I can't check it out til tomorrow. Give me a day or so. I just want to make sure that your statements are those which came from the school and not assumptions.

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Ashley in San Diego, California

72 months ago

its saturday, the schools open til 5. But im not making assumptions. i thought it was just additional training until i met with her yesterday and she informed me of the "medical" licensing part. ive never heard of that so i thought others would like to know of the new opportunity. The president is rarley in her office but if you leave a message, she gets back to you within a day or two.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Jeff B in Dallas, Texas said: Well I can be wrong. But today being Sunday I can't check it out til tomorrow. Give me a day or so. I just want to make sure that your statements are those which came from the school and not assumptions.

Interesting. There is no listing for either Master Esthetician of Medical Esthetician Licensing on the CA BBC Site.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley in San Diego, California said: its saturday, the schools open til 5. But im not making assumptions. i thought it was just additional training until i met with her yesterday and she informed me of the "medical" licensing part. ive never heard of that so i thought others would like to know of the new opportunity. The president is rarley in her office but if you leave a message, she gets back to you within a day or two.

See I'm wrong already. It's Saturday.

Jeff

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

72 months ago

Ashley,

Would you be kind enough to email me privately? I would like to discuss this with you further.

aaea@earthlink.net

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Ebest in Gaithersburg, Maryland

72 months ago

i spoke to CA BBC. they only recognize an esthetics license. there is no such thing as a master esthetican or medical esthetician under the state board for California. you can take any course you want and receive a certificate, which may help you market urself to a medispa or doctors office. but legally, only a state board can issue a license. and their limitations stop at a basic esthetician.

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Michelle in Austin, Texas

72 months ago

Jeff B in Dallas, Texas said: There is no such thing as a "Licensed Medical Esthetician"

I am a licensed esthetician in Texas, and would like to break into the medical field working with a dermatologist, plastic surgeon, etc. but don't know how to get started. Jeff, I noticed your title is "clinical/medical esthetician" when I clicked on ur name link...could I email you privately and ask you some questions?

Thanks, Michelle

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Rebecca in Puyallup, Washington

71 months ago

jaclyn in Tacoma, Washington said: yes of course there are classes offering medical esthetics training, the person above have not done there research. there are quite of few all over the u.s., but the one i know that is really good is clover park tech in lakewood,wa. it's 6mo program and you can get certified or a degree out of the course, it's only $4,000 and you can get loans cause it is government funded. most "private schools" charge $6,000 to $8,000 and it's only a 2wk program. good luck, i hope this helps.

I have been through the Esthetician program at Clover Park and was VERY disapointed in the program. The first quarter we learned histology and structure of the skin, some chemistry and the IDI facial. The first quarter for what was taught was very informative. However, the second quarter we were taught absolutely NOTHING. We were put on the clinic floor and expected to provide services for incoming clients. Our instructor was Never available and did very little teaching and lecturing. I for one, was extremely disappointed the program and wish I had gone somewhere else to receive my education.

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jaclyn in Juneau, Alaska

71 months ago

Rebecca in Puyallup, Washington said: I have been through the Esthetician program at Clover Park and was VERY disapointed in the program. The first quarter we learned histology and structure of the skin, some chemistry and the IDI facial. The first quarter for what was taught was very informative. However, the second quarter we were taught absolutely NOTHING. We were put on the clinic floor and expected to provide services for incoming clients. Our instructor was Never available and did very little teaching and lecturing. I for one, was extremely disappointed the program and wish I had gone somewhere else to receive my education.

when did you go? was melissa s. your instructor? i took the esthetic course but not the medical esthetic course and melissa was right on, she is a GREAT instructor, just curious of who was your instructor. do you you work at a spa now?

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Jenny in Tacoma, Washington

71 months ago

Rebecca in Puyallup, Washington said: I have been through the Esthetician program at Clover Park and was VERY disapointed in the program. The first quarter we learned histology and structure of the skin, some chemistry and the IDI facial. The first quarter for what was taught was very informative. However, the second quarter we were taught absolutely NOTHING. We were put on the clinic floor and expected to provide services for incoming clients. Our instructor was Never available and did very little teaching and lecturing. I for one, was extremely disappointed the program and wish I had gone somewhere else to receive my education.

I was thinking about going to Clover Park for the medical aesthetician course, and then I found out about the Euro Institute of Skin Care...I'm still a bit confused. I want to become a medical aesthetician,(eventually) and the Euro Institute offers that training, but its only 6 days (you learn the basic esthetician course first, then the 6 day training if you want to learn it). I was wondering if you think that 6 days will be enough to learn the medical aesthetics or not, and do you normally go about learning the general esthetics and then to become a 'medical aesthetician' go for more learning? like taking workshops or shorter training classes?

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Laura in Salt Lake City, Utah

71 months ago

Wow! Seriously what do you think you can truly learn in 6 days? That is not enough time to learn about skin disease and disorders, facial and body treatments, treating different skin types,sanitation, etc. If your going to do it you might as well do the Master Esthetics so you can learn chemical peels (that in its self needs time invested into understanding) microdermabrasions, LED treatments, dermasound, microcurrent, etc. But that would be a quality esthetics education. In Utah we require 1200 hours for your Master Esthetics, thats why the best come from Utah! To be truly success with a career in esthetics you will have to constantly continue your education to stay up to date with all the new products, treatments, and clients concerns and goals for their skin.

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

71 months ago

Laura in Salt Lake City, Utah said: Wow! Seriously what do you think you can truly learn in 6 days? That is not enough time to learn about skin disease and disorders, facial and body treatments, treating different skin types,sanitation, etc. If your going to do it you might as well do the Master Esthetics so you can learn chemical peels (that in its self needs time invested into understanding) microdermabrasions, LED treatments, dermasound, microcurrent, etc. But that would be a quality esthetics education. In Utah we require 1200 hours for your Master Esthetics, thats why the best come from Utah! To be truly success with a career in esthetics you will have to constantly continue your education to stay up to date with all the new products, treatments, and clients concerns and goals for their skin.

It's my understand that Utah does not permit certain treatments with its normal esthetic license (600 hours) (eg, MDA, Acids). The Master (1200) does. However, other states do permit these treatments under their license. I know many who are considered the best (industry leaders) who are not in Utah.

After many, many years in this industry I can tell you that attending hours does not make make knowledge. Quality of education does. There are quality schools and quality teachers. However, a course is only as good as the quality of its teachers.
A Master Esthetician is not a Medical Esthetician.

What exactly does the Master program cover that the regular course does not? How many class hours and floor hours?

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angelface in Whittier, California

70 months ago

Hello Jeff,

I've been reading some of these threads and I'm wondering if you would be kind enough to answer a few questions...you are a wealth of knowledge and I would appreciate your insight.

~What educators would you recommend for training as a certified medical aesthetician? Which do you think are the best schools?

~If I became certified as a laser technician, would I be able to utilize this knowledge in calif.? Or restricted to physicians and RN'S? What if the machine is classified as non-ablative?
(Iv'e been looking into the program that NLI offers for laser training in AZ.)

~How do you feel about the Rhonda Allison line? Do you have a preference for another line?

Thank you for your input.

:)

~

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Megan in San Diego, California

70 months ago

Ashley in San Diego , California said: its saturday, the schools open til 5. But im not making assumptions. i thought it was just additional training until i met with her yesterday and she informed me of the " medical " licensing part. ive never heard of that so i thought others would like to know of the new opportunity. The president is rarley in her office but if you leave a message, she gets back to you within a day or two.

Hey! I live by SDSU and I'm going to start my esthetician courses in January. I was going to go to JE Boutique in El Cajon....since its the closest place....but then I read your post and looked at all the information on the Master Esthetics. I'm interested in going to the Poway Academy because I can take the Masters class. Also It seems like i'd have a better chance at finding a career with more training. So....my questions...on the Certificate it actually says Medical Esthetician?
Do you like the academy?
is it really worth $18,000??
after classes will you be able to preform laser and light treatments??
Thanks!

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Jeff B in Dallas, Texas

70 months ago

Through the years the demand for a seperate esthetics license emerged and those states which did offer esthetics also included the use of machines.

Today many states do not require training in microdermabrasion and acids. They are left to more advanced training. But I think this will also change, as it did with machines.

Whether a Clinical esthetician or a Medical esthetician, you are still required to operate within the scope of your license as an esthetician. Even though a doctor may teach you brain surgery, you are not permitted to perform it on the public unless you meet the standards set forth by state law. The only way you would be able to is if the doctor themself takes full responsibility for everything you do and you are working under his license. This is also true for the Medical Esthetician who performs procedures which are outside the scope of your esty license.

Remember when I said that you work under the doctors license? Many "medical esty's work as independent contractors. What many do not know is that many states can view this as not working as an employee as legally someone has no control over how an independent contractor works. They can only direct an IC to do a job but not be able to tell them how to do it.

So chances are, if you are working as an IC for a doctor or a Medspa, you have no protection under any medical license.

Did I forget anything?

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