Allegiant

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: It was mentioned in an earlier post that the next training session would be in the Fall, so the interview sessions will be coming by summer most likely.

The class that just graduated apparently lost 1/3, so they may be thinking of holding a class sooner, I'm sure they did not expect to lose so many. I don't think the guy posting made it through class, no idea about the girl posting here.

Peter, are you still interested? Hope so!

Hi,

Thanls for the update and yes I am very interested and hope something comes along soon.

Have a great day and good luck.

Peter

Hi! I just graduated in the last class. We had 37 ppl our first day and ended up with 31 graduating! Leaving Vegas today heading hope!

Delaine in Las Vegas, Nevada said: Hi! I just graduated in the last class. We had 37 ppl our first day and ended up with 31 graduating! Leaving Vegas today heading hope!

Congratulations and good luck, where are you based?.......any new rumors?

Thanks for posting, Delaine! It's great to know my info was incomplete/wrong about 1/3 dropping out of class! The people who stayed a few days longer in LV were not entered yet, that's why it looked as if only 2/3 of the original 37 graduated LOL! That would have been drastic! Congrats to you and your class! Keep in touch!

thanks, looking forward to beginning my career with allegiant, i am so excited!

I am going to be in tunica,ms.
Only thing i know at this time no plans for another class until the fall. Someone in my class asked the question after this class would they be fully staffed and the answer was yes, so it could change but as of now dont think they are going to be having another class for a bit

They are hiring now info seesion on web site.

Yep Peter, the time is drawing close! As Alex posted, they are holding an FA session in early June in LV, hiring for all bases. When they put this class together, you'll be in it!

As everyone keeps posting and I will repeat, stay cool, professional, and as private as socially acceptable LOL AKA stay out of the drama LOL. It seems a no brainer but it is so ridiculous sometimes you don't realize the drama queens are drawing you in LOL.

No idea when the class may be but it may be this summer, so be ready for hot hot hot LV. It won't be bad, they transport you in an a/c vehicle to/from class and even will stop at a store for you, you will not cook LOL. When the classes were smaller, they used to rent a vehicle for the class to use, your class may be that small, wouldn't that be great! But with all the bases they now have, classes seem to keep getting larger.

Good Luck, Peter! Keep us posted.

I was just curious about something if anyone that has been to a FA open house. I sent in a resume and application about 3 weeks ago and the next day i was contacted by HR and was encouraged to monitor the web site for future hiring events which i have done. So when I saw the open house in LAS I called the person back to inquire about the event. i was told it would be a information session only with no interviews. I am confused on whether to go or not. ?? Any suggestions Are there recruitment events as well?

If there are no interviews, it seems fruitless to attend unless you lived or just happened to be in LV. The sessions we (all of us posting here) attended, were informative and had interviews ... maybe they're breaking in a new recruiting staff ... maybe they will follow up with interview sessions in other cities, just as they told you to watch for. If you can make a fun trip out of it, go for it, otherwise, I would wait.

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Does anyone know what the salary/hourly pay is for Allegiant Airlines Flight Attendants is or where I could find this info? Also, are they still hiring for the Las Vegas base? :)

LoveToFly in Henderson, Nevada said: Does anyone know what the salary/hourly pay is for Allegiant Airlines Flight Attendants is or where I could find this info? Also, are they still hiring for the Las Vegas base? :)

I have heard it's about $18/hr. But, I have not interviewed, nor do I know anyone that works there. I saw the information session is June 10. Are you gonna make it?

I think I will at least go and check it out! Will you be there?

The open house is June 10, go if you're interested, it's a great company. The pay is 20 per hour, 75 hour guarantee + per diem + comission. The trips are mostly turns but a few overnights here and there. Insurance is teriffic, everything about the company is great. Good luck!!

Wow, 20 is a lot more than I expected per hour!! Nice!! Do you know what percent of commission FA's are awarded? I worked for Skybus Airlines, which went out of business in April. I have heard that Allegiant is a lot like Skybus. I miss flying!!! Janet, are you currently an FA there?

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: Yep Peter, the time is drawing close! As Alex posted, they are holding an FA session in early June in LV, hiring for all bases. When they put this class together, you'll be in it!

As everyone keeps posting and I will repeat, stay cool, professional, and as private as socially acceptable LOL AKA stay out of the drama LOL. It seems a no brainer but it is so ridiculous sometimes you don't realize the drama queens are drawing you in LOL.

No idea when the class may be but it may be this summer, so be ready for hot hot hot LV. It won't be bad, they transport you in an a/c vehicle to/from class and even will stop at a store for you, you will not cook LOL. When the classes were smaller, they used to rent a vehicle for the class to use, your class may be that small, wouldn't that be great! But with all the bases they now have, classes seem to keep getting larger.

Good Luck, Peter! Keep us posted.

One more question...do you know if there are certain classes for certain bases or do you just get assigned one at the end of training? I'm possibly moving to Las Vegas, so it would be perfect if I could end up with the LV base!

It is necessary to live where you are based because of the nature of the flying (all turns). If you live in Vegas, you will be based in Vegas, Henderson is close enough.

The percentage is way too complicated to get into, just say it's 5%, you'll learn all about it in training.

Allegiant is NOTHING like Skybus. Allegiant has a man with a plan pulling it all together, that's why they have grown since 2001 while every other airline has had problems.

If you miss flying, go to the info session and find out more and c'mon, we need more FA's!! Good Luck!!

Hey! Thanks for the response! I know, I know, Skybus has a bad rep but whatever...we had such a family culture there and I miss it a lot and I have tons of valuable experiences from that job. All I meant by I remember hearing it was similar is that both airlines had onboard sales, FA's worked on commission, had a few overnights here and there, and flew into smaller airports. I'm excited to go to the info session and get more info! :) How long have you been an FA? I only got to do it for 10 months but absolutely loved it!

I'm actually from Ohio. I used to live in Vegas. I don't know why Henderson pops up on my thing! I actually lived in Summerlin when I did live there a couple of years ago. It's so cool that you will be based where you live...a lot of airlines you have to go thru training, and THEN they tell you where you are off to! I'm totally going to apply now!! :)

The Skybus bad rep doesn't go to the employees, it was just a bad plan from the start, NOTHING against the employees, we're all the same, we work HARD for the money LOL.

Allegiant tries harder than other companies to give the "family" feel to the job ... but like every job, there are the negative people but just ignore them, there is so much good to this company.

If you go to allegiantair.com you can find all the bases and right now they are hiring for all bases. The training class will be a few from all bases.

Actually, it wasn't a bad plan from the start...it was bad management from the start because some of the big guys pushed the original guys out who would have actually made it very successful. We were modeled after the most successful airline in the world, Ryanair. We did not fail because of fuel prices or bad funding like many other airlines, we failed because of poor management. There is SO much that the public still has no idea about, only our Skybus family does. I'm not starting a fight, but I just wanted to voice my opinion on something I worked so hard at during the past year. It is NOT easy starting up an airline but I have gained more experience than I could ever imagine. The original "man" of Skybus had a brilliant plan, but he got knocked out because he would not agree with the culture that was being brought into the company. The original "man with a plan" was not Bill D! It was John Weikle and he is currently in the process of reviving and relaunching the 'Bus and I'm sure if the airline is in his own hands (a good manager) you will see that the plan isn't the problem! :) I am confident in that.

just curious how a week in a fa life goes, do you mind just tellin' me where u fly, how long are the flights
Thanks

You obviously have a passion for John Weilke's business sense and since he has exhibited it through Heartland Air, Skybus, Jet America, and possibly Skybus once again, maybe one of his ventures would be a better fit for you. Allegiant doesn't connect small town to small town selling perfume and jewelry, not allowing carry on food and beverage, no, this genius business plan escaped us but we'll "keep on trucking" as they say.

To Jen in Weslaco, Texas: As for the week in the life ... if you go to allegiantair.com you'll find the cities served. The bases at this time are: Las Vegas, Laughlin, Reno, Phoenix/Mesa, Bellingham, Tunica, Tampa/St. Petersburg, Orlando/Sanford, and Ft. Lauderdale. The trips are out and back the same day and range from (approximately) 4-8 hours block time per day. Some trips are 2 legs, others are 4. If you have a line, you could work 3-5 days per week, on reserve, well, you work when needed.

Hope this answers your questions!

Peter, where are you???? Have you had any phone calls lately? Hope to read from you soon about your training date!

I guess we just have to agree to disagree :)

I am going to the job fair on June 10th. I'm still very interested in Allegiant. Just because it's different, doesn't mean I won't like it. I focus on the positive in every company I work for and will put my heart into anything I truly believe in. Just because I believed in Skybus doesn't mean I won't also believe in Allegiant as being a great career opp. I look forward to meeting you sometime and will hopefully see you out on the line. How long have you been an FA? You seem to know a lot! :)

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: The open house is June 10, go if you're interested, it's a great company. The pay is 20 per hour, 75 hour guarantee + per diem + comission. The trips are mostly turns but a few overnights here and there. Insurance is teriffic, everything about the company is great. Good luck!!

What exactly are you making commission off of - what are you 'selling' on board? Also what is the per diem rate?

I am going to do my best to be at the open house. I hope to meet you there!!

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: You obviously have a passion for John Weilke's business sense and since he has exhibited it through Heartland Air, Skybus, Jet America, and possibly Skybus once again, maybe one of his ventures would be a better fit for you. Allegiant doesn't connect small town to small town selling perfume and jewelry, not allowing carry on food and beverage, no, this genius business plan escaped us but we'll "keep on trucking" as they say.

To Jen in Weslaco, Texas: As for the week in the life ... if you go to allegiantair.com you'll find the cities served. The bases at this time are: Las Vegas, Laughlin, Reno, Phoenix/Mesa, Bellingham, Tunica, Tampa/St. Petersburg, Orlando/Sanford, and Ft. Lauderdale. The trips are out and back the same day and range from (approximately) 4-8 hours block time per day. Some trips are 2 legs, others are 4. If you have a line, you could work 3-5 days per week, on reserve, well, you work when needed.

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I am not speaking on LoveToFly's behalf, but I think that what he/she is saying is that both airlines seem to have a SIMILAR business model. Of course it is not identical, but I personally do not know of any other major or 'legacy' carrier (such as Delta, United, Continental,USAirways, etc.) that offer commission as compensation to their F/A's. So if you are indeed making commission, something is being sold in-flight. It may only be food and beverages (?), but even so - that too is similar to SKB because the F/A's at SKB were also compensated for all food, beverages and snacks sold on board.

Also as far as the 'small towns', according to your post both Allegiant AND Skybus flew into identical airports. Bellingham being one of them - and in my opinion it would be considered a 'small town', along with Laughlin, Tunica and Reno.

Just an observation...

^ Ooops! Apparently there was an issue with the quote function. My post was in response to JanetPlanet:

I am not speaking on LoveToFly's behalf, but I think that what he/she is saying is that both airlines seem to have a SIMILAR business model. Of course it is not identical, but I personally do not know of any other major or 'legacy' carrier (such as Delta, United, Continental,USAirways, etc.) that offer commission as compensation to their F/A's. So if you are indeed making commission, something is being sold in-flight. It may only be food and beverages (?), but even so - that too is similar to SKB because the F/A's at SKB were also compensated for all food, beverages and snacks sold on board.

Also as far as the 'small towns', according to your post both Allegiant AND Skybus flew into identical airports. Bellingham being one of them - and in my opinion it would be considered a 'small town', along with Laughlin, Tunica and Reno.

Just an observation...

Just an observation vs just the facts:
Skybus paid $9 per hour + commission
Allegiant pays $20 per hour + commission + per diem
Regional and Main Line pay $16-$20 per hour + per diem

Allegiant, Regional, and Main Line pay a decent wage in addition to per diem. Allegiant could keep the profits and not give us commission, the pay is excellent alone, the commission is a plus.

Skybus sold food/drink to jewelry and perfume, etc.
Allegiant sells food/drink and things appropriate for the destination (Vegas has show tix and monorail passes, etc.) (FL has beach towels/blankets).
Regional and Main Line some sell, some give away drinks/food, headsets.

Skybus connected small towns to small towns, not a money making idea. They lasted less than a year.
Allegiant connects small towns to desired destinations, a very good idea. The present management took over in June of 2001 and with their brilliant direction have taken Allegiant from 1 base in Vegas to 9 bases, in spite of 9/11 and various other obstacles. A slow but steady growth.
Regionals connect small towns to larger cities to benefit the Main Line Carriers.
Main Line Carriers connect the larger cities to each other.

All airlines are similar, they all fly. The management is the brains of the airline, the employees the heart and soul. Management needs employees as much as employees need management ... unions are optional LOL.

I guess you mistook my definition of 'similarity'. I have been in the business for quite some time working as a Check F/A. I am experienced and have been around the block so to speak - and fortunately (or unfortunately? lol) I am well aware of how the aviation business operates, both the good and bad.

I am not going to get into the specifics as to what was sold on SKB, but it too sold items specific to the destinations (not only perfume & jewelry) - again, 'similar'. It's just incredibly unfortunate that the solid business plan (based on one of the most successful airlines worldwide) was completely mismanaged straight into the ground. It is what it is.

Again, I was just making an observation to the similarities of both airlines - I am hardly suggesting that one is better than the other.

We F/A's need to stick together and be respectful of each other, regardless of which airline we work for.

Agreed 110%

I could not say it better myself! :)

Hey thanks for answering the question about shedule of a flight attendant, do you guys get days off. Do you get days off,or are you always on reserve. and you fly all over the place like not just from base to base,right?

Jen in Weslaco, Texas said: Hey thanks for answering the question about shedule of a flight attendant, do you guys get days off. Do you get days off,or are you always on reserve. and you fly all over the place like not just from base to base,right?

I am not speaking for Alegiant specifically, but yes - of course you would have days off. lol

There are specific FAA regulations that need to be followed, including rest periods. Airlines can differ, however they must adhere to all FAA regulations regarding rest, maximum hours worked (this includes sitting reserve), etc.

So no worries - you will have days off.

You may want to research the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) regarding these issues, it's a somewhat involved.

Good luck! =)

To the two former Skybus employees: Ryan patterned itself after Southwest who patterned itself after Pacific Southwest Airlines, seems similarity is the name of the game, no matter what your interpretation of the word is. Ryan is known as having the rudest crews, Southwest is known for its friendly crews (according to travel sites like tripadvisor, etc.). Ryan is going strong after 20+ years, Southwest is going great after 40+ years, Skybus is gone in less than one year. Similarity does not an airline make.

As far as your comment above:
"I have been in the business for quite some time working as a Check F/A. I am experienced and have been around the block so to speak - "
paralleled with your comment from another Indeed forum:
"I guess I flew a little over 1K hours, that's all. The only good thing with working for a start-up is the opportunity - I was a Check F/A and assisted with a lot of training - I guess it's good for the resume. Anyway I did enjoy it for the most part, just looking to get in with a 'real' airline this time. =),"

I don't see these as similar but I guess you do.

Good luck at Chataqua, I guess it's as real as it gets.

Reserves get 2-3 days off per week.

We fly from our base to a city and back to our base for a 2 leg. We fly from our base to a city and back, then out again from our base to city and back for a 4 leg trip. We have a variety of 2-4 legs per day but we always end up at home each night (very very very VERY few overnights, not enough to mention and they're disappearing).

If you want the adventure of layovers and being away from home for 4 days at a time, this is not the airline for you. If you like the idea of being home every night while flying for a living, this is for you.

There is an airline for everyone wanting to fly, just figure out what suits you best and go with it!!

I flew for a Main Line for 5 years, loved it, absolutely loved it but the time came for me to want to "settle down" LOL, so I've settled a bit.

Every Airline has something to offer, look for your best fit and GOOD LUCK!!

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: To the two former Skybus employees: Ryan patterned itself after Southwest who patterned itself after Pacific Southwest Airlines, seems similarity is the name of the game, no matter what your interpretation of the word is. Ryan is known as having the rudest crews, Southwest is known for its friendly crews (according to travel sites like tripadvisor, etc.). Ryan is going strong after 20+ years, Southwest is going great after 40+ years, Skybus is gone in less than one year. Similarity does not an airline make.

As far as your comment above:
"I have been in the business for quite some time working as a Check F/A. I am experienced and have been around the block so to speak - "
paralleled with your comment from another Indeed forum:
"I guess I flew a little over 1K hours, that's all. The only good thing with working for a start-up is the opportunity - I was a Check F/A and assisted with a lot of training - I guess it's good for the resume. Anyway I did enjoy it for the most part, just looking to get in with a 'real' airline this time. =),"

I don't see these as similar but I guess you do.

Good luck at Chataqua, I guess it's as real as it gets.

That was with ONE airline - not all of them combined. But thanks anyway! :)

And if you are unable to see the 'similarity' between the only 2 airlines that I am aware of who compensate with commission I guess we have to agre to disagree. No biggie!

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said:

If you want the adventure of layovers and being away from home for 4 days at a time, this is not the airline for you. If you like the idea of being home every night while flying for a living, this is for you.

And btw - SKB was mostly day trips as well, just one more similarity! ;)

SKB: commission-based income
ALG: commission-based income

SKB: minimal overnights/mostly day trips
ALG: minimal overnights/mostly day trips

SKB: F/A's selling items specific to destination on board
ALG: F/A's selling items specific to destination on board

SKB: flights to smaller airports such as BLI and FLL
ALG: flights to smaller airports such as BLI and FLL

sim·i·lar:
–adjective 1. having a likeness or resemblance, esp. in a general way

How is this not 'similar'? AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS??! lol

LOL, my point exactly. They are similar enough to me to want to apply. I like the laid back lifestyle of not necessarily being away from home every night, but getting away every once in a while. I like having a guaranteed income with a chance to make a little extra commission. I also like the idea of flying into smaller airports and not sitting on the runway for hours on end. These are the exact things that made me say that SKB and Allegiant were similar enough for me to want to apply in the beginning. I'm still going to apply. Janet, I'm not sure if you're trying to intimidate me or something, but it's not working. I'd rather just get along with you since we may fly together some day. It'd make it easier on the both of us. Neither one of us has worked for the other's airline, yet, and we both don't know every single thing that goes on within the airline. I bet there are good parts and not so good parts of both airlines. I still maintain that I had a great time at Skybus and I'll cherrish the memories and friendships I've made. At the same time, I know it's time to move on...thus the whole reason of trying to ask questions and see if Allegiant is a fit for me. It's okay for people to have different opinions and you don't always have to try to get the last word in. I've thought a lot of things after reading some of your replies but I just keep my mouth shut. I'm honestly not one for drama. I don't think it's nice to make rude comments about either airline. They are what they are and it's better to focus on the positive and for us SKB eomployees specifically, we don't need the added stress when trying to find a job. We've already been through a life changing and honestly very depressing event. Some of our friends have lost their homes and more than half of us are still not employed (not because we aren't trying) with unemployment paying $115 a week. So, if we're a little defensive about our company we worked so hard for, give us a break. Please.

JanetPlanet in Las Vegas, Nevada said: Just an observation vs just the facts:
Skybus paid $9 per hour + commission
Allegiant pays $20 per hour + commission + per diem
Regional and Main Line pay $16-$20 per hour + per diem

Allegiant, Regional, and Main Line pay a decent wage in addition to per diem. Allegiant could keep the profits and not give us commission, the pay is excellent alone, the commission is a plus.

Skybus sold food/drink to jewelry and perfume, etc.
Allegiant sells food/drink and things appropriate for the destination (Vegas has show tix and monorail passes, etc.) (FL has beach towels/blankets).
Regional and Main Line some sell, some give away drinks/food, headsets.

Skybus connected small towns to small towns, not a money making idea. They lasted less than a year.
Allegiant connects small towns to desired destinations, a very good idea. The present management took over in June of 2001 and with their brilliant direction have taken Allegiant from 1 base in Vegas to 9 bases, in spite of 9/11 and various other obstacles. A slow but steady growth.
Regionals connect small towns to larger cities to benefit the Main Line Carriers.
Main Line Carriers connect the larger cities to each other.

All airlines are similar, they all fly. The management is the brains of the airline, the employees the heart and soul. Management needs employees as much as employees need management ... unions are optional LOL.

Skybus also paid per diem for our overnights. Yes, we had a few. Also, honestly my pay often averaged out to be over $20 an hour. Our customers LOVED us and we made pretty big comm. checks at times from the gifts they loved to buy on board. I never thought I would sell so much perfume or jewelry on an airplane, but it did work and my paycheck showed it...so no need to focus on our pay. Ever go home with $100 in tips for an 10 hour day? We did - making our pay prob around $25/hr some days/trips.

Are you allowed to accept tips? I worked for National Airlines, when they were in business, and we were not encouraged to accept tips from our passengers. I wonder how Allegiant deals with that...?

You can't solicit/ask for tips according to the FAM and you must claim them on taxes if customers insist you take them. Since our particular business model was different with all the onboard sales, our customers always insisted on giving us tips. Especially those FLL drinkers :)

I'm not sure how it works with Allegiant. Their pay is structured differently and they seem to be some of the highest paid in the industry. Then again, so are Southwest FA's and they do accept tips as well. I know of a few airlines that just make you record how much you made each day and they tax it for you. It can be complicating but it is possible to accept tips depending on which airline you work for.

Does anyone know when the next initial training actually start?

For the current FA's for Allegiant. Have your routes slowed down due to the oil prices? Does it seem that Allegiant will definately be hiring FA from the June 10th open house?

Does anyone know the call out time. I was thinking about getting a crash pad in SFB. I live in allentown pa.

Allegiant Air did not hire anyone from their June 10th session. It was only a informational session and then you had to get up in front of the group. And, tell them something about Customer Service and you we're being observed by other F/A's. If, they we're interested in interviewing you on a 1 on 1. They would contact you. No, training dates we're gived. But, they are looking to hire...

I just got an e-mail from them

The July open house is only for information also.

I went to the June 10th session and it was all information plus a group interview. They already called me this week and let me know they looked over my resume and are very interested and will be calling for a one on one interview "in the near future." In the info session, one of them mentioned that they probably will be hiring in the fall because that is a typical hiring time in the airline industry. I encourage you to go to the information session. They are all SUPER nice and it seems like a wonderful place to work. You might get hired sooner than you expect!

Yup your right on. Travel increases during the holidays as does the hiring. Allegiant is owned by a travel agency. So they do alot more catering to the public. They also do alot of chartering like for football, soccer and baseball teams. Plus they fly big planes. Requiring 2-3 FA's per flight.
Congrats,Good luck & hang in there

I'm excited!! I was a FA for about a year for another airline and we had 3-4 FA's on our flights! Holidays are crazy times....but I always think it's more fun to have full flights than half empty ones! It was such a good time! I'd love to work for Allegiant and I'm hoping the one-on-one interview is not too hard, although a little challenging would not bother me! :) Are you currently an Allegiant FA? You're so nice! :)