Open Skies - The new and Innovative Airline from British Airways

thanks four response! good luck!
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Orbiter in San Francisco, California said: I meant training in August, sorry.

Has anybody that went on the interview on the 21st July got a call back from OS and got the position yet???????????????

got my offer today for 22 aug indoc

Travelguru in California said: got my offer today for 22 aug indoc

lucky u

Hey Sofia! It's Shenae. I haven't heard anything either.

TravelGuru: Did you get your offer via email or by phone?

don't worry if you did not get a response yet. you will get one either way. when i got my offer back in feb. those who interviewed with me got theirs at different times. you should be hearing some thing any time now. i chose not to go for personel reasons. but i am still in contact with my buds who fly for os. and they like it alot. good luck and great flying.

Via e mail yesterday at 4:45 am Pacific time

Thanx dfly04....I'm keeping my fingers, toes and eyes crossed!

achixanthem in Miami Beach, Florida said: Thanx dfly04....I'm keeping my fingers, toes and eyes crossed!

nothing yet

I love OS I wanna work for them

Well, I've been quite excited about this Open Skies thing for a long time now. Unfortunately, I just heard that British Airways is merging with Iberia Airlines in an effort to stay afloat. This is not the news I expected to hear, especially since OS just announced that it will be flying to Amsterdam starting in October. This is a quote from the article I read..."July 29 (Bloomberg) -- British Airways Plc, Europe's third- biggest carrier, started talks to merge with Spain's Iberia Lineas Aereas de Espana SA to lower expenses as slower economies and higher fuel costs wipe out earnings"....."British Airways said two weeks ago it will cut passenger capacity and stop hiring as it struggles to make a profit."

I don't get it. Isn't OS still conducting interviews? It seems there is no clarity on any of this. To view the complete article.......www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&refer=home&sid=aWjkyAFW.KKU

I don't think you see the full picture, Anonymous. You state that BA is merging with Iberia to stay afloat. BA is far from not being afloat. The Iberia merger is simply a smart business move in the current airline economy. BA owns 15 percent of Iberia as of now.

BA has been making profit up to now, but as fuel prices continue to rise (although the dropped a bit lately), carriers must position themselves to be strong. It is not much different from the NWA/DAL pending merger in the US, although most of the big players in Europe are much stronger and much more astute than the US legacy carriers.

The BA/Iberia merger really has little impact on OpenSkies. You have to realize that OpenSkies will never operate the same city pairs as BA. OpenSkies is was created solely to service US/EU destinations. The BA/Iberia merger should have no impact on OpenSkies hiring practices, or your decision to apply to OS, an outstanding carrier.

It really all boils down to your personal preference. Entering the airline industry today is a risk for anyone, and for those of us who have been in it for years, and have worked for both legacy carriers and startup carriers know the risks we take when joining such ambitious, innovative airline startups.

Good luck in your decision-making process, if that is the process you're in. Please be informed about the subjects you bring to these forums as they misinform individuals who may be entering the industry for the first time.

Cheers!

Very well said!

At least the application site is back up! The new Amsterdam news on the blog is pretty exciting as well.

Okay, I just checked the application site and my phase 3 was unsuccessful. Just shoot me now.

Aww, I'm sorry...

where do you go to check your application status? It show me only to check back soon for later postings....could you tell me the excact site

cabincrew.openskiescareers.com/

thanks! i checked and all 3 phases showed green"passed" awaiting medical...seem like i am in whoopee!!

WingedWanderer, it's okay. I got turned down by Eos and Delta, so I guess I'm not fated to become a flight attendant. I told my friend Sofia that I'm not destined to serve drinks on a plane, that I'm just supposed to drink on a plane. LOL

Well I didn't even make it to the interview so I have to sit here wondering what might have been and hoping for a second chance...

I'm thinking the EOS thing probably worked out for the better ;)

This is true WingedWanderer. Hope for the best. Sipping on limoncello makes the news a little less harsh in the meantime. And I guess I need to focus on my true calling in life: being George Clooney's girlfriend. LMAO I'm sorry, I just naturally fight disappointment with a keen sense of humor.

Flyer in Astoria, New York said: I don't think you see the full picture, Anonymous. You state that BA is merging with Iberia to stay afloat. BA is far from not being afloat. The Iberia merger is simply a smart business move in the current airline economy. BA owns 15 percent of Iberia as of now.

BA has been making profit up to now, but as fuel prices continue to rise (although the dropped a bit lately), carriers must position themselves to be strong. It is not much different from the NWA/DAL pending merger in the US, although most of the big players in Europe are much stronger and much more astute than the US legacy carriers.

The BA/Iberia merger really has little impact on OpenSkies. You have to realize that OpenSkies will never operate the same city pairs as BA. OpenSkies is was created solely to service US/EU destinations. The BA/Iberia merger should have no impact on OpenSkies hiring practices, or your decision to apply to OS, an outstanding carrier.

It really all boils down to your personal preference. Entering the airline industry today is a risk for anyone, and for those of us who have been in it for years, and have worked for both legacy carriers and startup carriers know the risks we take when joining such ambitious, innovative airline startups.

Good luck in your decision-making process, if that is the process you're in. Please be informed about the subjects you bring to these forums as they misinform individuals who may be entering the industry for the first time.

Cheers!

If what you say is true, then they have a lot of nerve printing a story which throws around words like "higher fuel costs wipe-out earnings" and "struggling to make a profit." We don't need to hear extreme terms like wipe-out and struggling. It really unnerves me. Do you think this was merely sensationalizing on their part?

achixanthem in Miami Beach, Florida said: This is true WingedWanderer. Hope for the best. Sipping on limoncello makes the news a little less harsh in the meantime. And I guess I need to focus on my true calling in life: being George Clooney's girlfriend. LMAO I'm sorry, I just naturally fight disappointment with a keen sense of humor.

for those of you who did not get picked for the training course. do not be discourgaged. just because you are not a fit for os. does not mean you are not a fit for another airline. if your dream is to fly. persue it!! think of it this way. its not failing it is another opportunity to get it right. somewhere else. my heart and prayers go out to you who did not get picked. apparently you have qualities that are admirable and hireble for the airline industry or you would have never gotten the interview. research other airlines and go for it. i will be waiting to hear who you will be flying for. god bless.

They aren't saying anything to frighten people.it's the entire industry all over the world, don't look for BA to go under. If mere words scare you, then the passengers would eat you up alive.

Dfly04, I'm running out of airlines!! I speak english and french, and some japanese. I've been working as a server and a manager for years. I lived in Paris for 4 months by myself. I watch the french news every week. I don't want to sound egotistical but how much more qualified can I be! This is why I'm giving up. No offense, and thank you for your words of encouragement, but I can only take so much rejection.

Always remember that recruiters are looking for something that day. Meaning white women with red shoes or black women with blue dresses etc. Do u understand what I'm saying. Giving up is not an option. They are making their quotas sort-a-speak! The airlines are going through some crap right now, but its the same crap that was after 9-11. So don't give up. Tomorrow is a surprise and you never know where you'll end up. I was walking down the street one day in san francisco feeling sorry for myself when the heel of my shoe broke and I looked up and met the most amazing man in my life. Now I'm moving to be with him!!! Is it fate yes it was and being in the right place and the right time not even knowing I was there! Everyday is a surprise,embrace it, don't give up and live like there is no tomorrow!

Oh Allycat, I can do better than that...after completing my last class in culinary school, I started my internship at a very shee shee frou frou hotel in Paris as a pastry chef. I met my ex-bf there. Yes I said ex-bf. I wasn't planning on a relationship, I was just living like there was no tomorrow. And then we moved to Florida, and he dumped me a month after I got here because he thought that if we moved here together, his feelings for me would change...because he never loved me. Cheers to living life! Cheers to being at the wrong place at the wrong time!! It's funny because my friends know I'm always at the wrong place at the wrong time. But enough sad stuff. I'm just going to try a different direction.

I'm not sure I agree with this so you sound like you're drinking corporate koolaid...

[quote]It is not much different from the NWA/DAL pending merger in the US, although most of the big players in Europe are much stronger and much more astute than the US legacy carriers.

The BA/Iberia merger really has little impact on OpenSkies. You have to realize that OpenSkies will never operate the same city pairs as BA. OpenSkies is was created solely to service US/EU destinations. The BA/Iberia merger should have no impact on OpenSkies hiring practices, or your decision to apply to OS, an outstanding carrier.

First off there is no guarantee that the NWA/DAL merger will go ahead. Look at USAirways/America West to see how well mergers can go! Also OpenSkies may be part of BA but working for OpenSkies you're NOT BA and can be dropped with the blink of an eye.

With OpenSkies you don't have (I assume) the same terms and conditions as BA mainline. You're not going to be welcomed with open arms by mainline and what happens if a) Willie Walsh steps down or is forced to step down or b) Open skies treaty part II fails which is is a real possibility given the current political and economical climate over here. Have a look on www.PPrune.org to see what BA workers think of OpenSkies.

How many airlines has BA created in the past that are still around?

Does OpenSkies offer any sort of contract?

I think if you want to take it as a resume builder or something to do to fill some time then go for it but long term I wouldn't see it as a banker.

The money is poor compared to US carriers and with no union you have no protection.

Don't get caught up in the hype. See if you can live on the money they are offering, the uncertainty and would enjoy the lifestyle. However much they dress it up, it's still just another airline and with airlines there is no certainty.

Im sorry for interrupting here but when you mentioned pastry chef I sure got hungry lol. Great profession!> Also to those who did get hired, congrats, best wishes!!!!!!

Thanx for the shout out! I just made some pizza from scratch the other day and man it was good! And I forgot to say congrats to the ones who did get hired. Yay Sofia!!!

Don't give up your day jobs!

business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article4407165.ece

i think your a hater...did u get hired for os? what do u do now for living....ur just try to be negative,,,go to sleep!

Flyer One in New York, New York said: I'm not sure I agree with this so you sound like you're drinking corporate koolaid...

[quote]It is not much different from the NWA/DAL pending merger in the US, although most of the big players in Europe are much stronger and much more astute than the US legacy carriers.

The BA/Iberia merger really has little impact on OpenSkies. You have to realize that OpenSkies will never operate the same city pairs as BA. OpenSkies is was created solely to service US/EU destinations. The BA/Iberia merger should have no impact on OpenSkies hiring practices, or your decision to apply to OS, an outstanding carrier.

First off there is no guarantee that the NWA/DAL merger will go ahead. Look at USAirways/America West to see how well mergers can go! Also OpenSkies may be part of BA but working for OpenSkies you're NOT BA and can be dropped with the blink of an eye.

With OpenSkies you don't have (I assume) the same terms and conditions as BA mainline. You're not going to be welcomed with open arms by mainline and what happens if a) Willie Walsh steps down or is forced to step down or b) Open skies treaty part II fails which is is a real possibility given the current political and economical climate over here. Have a look on www.PPrune.org to see what BA workers think of OpenSkies.

How many airlines has BA created in the past that are still around?

Does OpenSkies offer any sort of contract?

I think if you want to take it as a resume builder or something to do to fill some time then go for it but long term I wouldn't see it as a banker.

The money is poor compared to US carriers and with no union you have no protection.

Don't get caught up in the hype. See if you can live on the money they are offering, the uncertainty and would enjoy the lifestyle. However much they dress it up, it's still just another airline and with airlines there is no certainty.

amen brother!!! excellant advice.

gg in Freeland, Pennsylvania said: i think your a hater...did u get hired for os? what do u do now for living....ur just try to be negative,,,go to sleep!

trust me he/she is in the airline business. he/she knows what he is talking about. i have been in the industry for 5yrs. now currently flying. make your own decision!! he/she is just offering good advice. you don't have to take it. but don't negate iit's credibility because you think it is negative. if you got offered the course. great!! if not don't be to disapointed i think in the long run you will be relieved!

OK SO THEN, TELL ME, DID YOU APPLIED TO OS RECENTLY? WHAT HAAPENNED AND DID FLYER DID THE SAME ALSO? I THINK YOU GUYS ARE MAD ABOUT SOMETHING! WHY THEN WOULD YOU FOCUS ON OS SO MUCH? MAYBE YOU APPLIED AND GOT REJECTED...TOO BAD...DO NOT BRING ANY NEGATIVE VIBES TO THE FORUM...I DO NOT SEE WHERE THIS IS ANY GOOD ADVICE. THE AIRLINES ARE ALL IN DEEP WATERS. IT IS ALL IN THE NEWS

DO NOT ASSUME IF YOU DO NOT KNOW

I'm am tired of people running to this website, and many others, with "news" of an airlines impending disaster every time an airline admits to having financial problems.

Let me tell, Flyer One, a thing or two. And for the record, I can care less about how you take it. I have been in the airline industry about 15 years. I had been with an airline that flew over 35 years before it ceased operations in April putting thousands of people, aroung the world out work. We had a Union, and a contract, and while they were all good things, they didn't help us, even though we could've been absorbed by our sister airlines.

I went to the website you posted, and all I read (so far) was a bunck of BA pilots b*tching about how OpenSkies pilots probably couldn't post because they were too tired from flying 6 day trips. You have got to be kidding me?! 6 days? Pilots at my old airline would howl with laughter. We used to do 12 pairings, hitting 5-7 countries sometimes. And sometimes we'd sit 10 of those days (like in Japan) in one country. I'm sure our pilots at OpenSkies would rather be tired from WORKING than being unemployed. Pilots are pilots, and if you're in the industry then you'd know, that while pilots are pretty to look at, and buy an occassional drink, they rarely have anything to say that benefits mankind or the virginity (metaphorically speaking) of a new FA.

OpenSkies is going to be a temporary airline within an airline. BA's merger with Iberia is good business. You can't compare USAiways/ AmericaWest's merger in the same breathe. Their pilots kept it from being intergrated. And NW/DL will go through because unlike the above mentioned, they see the hndwritting on the wall. It's all nice to say "legacy" carrier this and that, but the US airline industry has seen mind blowing changed way befroe today. Where's TWA? Banriff and PanAM?

As I continue...

WHile I wish their crews were still flying with us, they aren't. that's the legacdy of the industry, but that doesn't mean that because OpenSkies is a start-up, they will fail. Southwest was a new airline, and all the "legacy" carriers laughed at their business idea, and now, they are one of only TWO airlines to make a profit. Southwest was the only US carrier to come out unscathed (financially) after 9/11. I can't comment on European carriers, but regardless of what side of the ocean you live on, that's impressive.

So, Flyer One, when you make staements like "don't quiit your say job." You're being hateful, not helpful. You're not giving advise, you're being counterproductive. I have no job to give up, since my airline closed. You have NO crystal ball to predict the future of OpenSkies, and just because European ailrines are just now earnestly feeling the fuel crisis that US carriers have been feeling for months, you can't know that OpenSkies can't succeed.

As far as how BA employees think of OpenSKies, I could care less. If you truly are an airline eployee that loves their job, you should KNOW that a FA would rather take a chance flying for one day than to never fly again. I miss ever moment taht I can't fly, so I'm sticking with OpenSkies, come what may. What ever you think of that, the one one who cares about that is YOU.

mamalord,

please explain Os is a temp airline woyhin an airline...r u saying that it will be around only for a year or so or maybe 3 years? What is your take on working with them seeing your expreience as an FA alrdy.? Is it worth it to even bother?
How do u see the pay compared to these usa carriers?

thanks....btw...well stated posting

suki suki now!!! go mama!!! They have to have rason why they are being so hateful!!! What, applied and got rejected? mmmm?

GG, honey, stop freaking out. what I meant was BA is funding OpenSKies for now. It's an investment, and when OpenSkies gets a better foot hold, then BA will permit OpenSkies to be a fully independent carrier. The codeshare will remain.

As a flight attendant, you have to be flexible. All jobs are chances. Some may appear to be more stable, like the medical field, but all jobs take hits, maybe not as bad.

As a flight attendant, in my opinion, for me, I have nothing to lose. OpenSkies looks like it'll be a worth while endeavor, but that's me. You have to decide for yourself. You can't listen to anyone, and don't believe what anyone writes on a forum! You went to the interview, you heard the speeches, what was your impression. Flyer One has his/her own agenda, but what is your agenda. even I have my own, I want to work as a flight attendant again, but that doesn't mean I'll work for jusy anyone. I'm selective too.

As far as salary, it's decent. It's not as bad as Flyer One says for a first year salary, if you add in the "per diem".

So GG, make up your mind about what you want to do. I think you'll like flying. And obvoiusly, OpenSkies thinks so, or they wouldn't have offered you a spot.

well said. i am impressed so far with os....i will be there on the 22nd!

see ya then

guys RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!! i was HIRED ON WITH OPENSKIES BACK IN FEB.offered the FIRST training course. i am not trying to be negative here. i have severel friends flying with os right now. so i know what i am talking about. as i said before. if you did not get hired on please do not give up. try somewhere else. for those of you who got hired. congrats.

Pilots are pilots, and if you're in the industry then you'd know, that while pilots are pretty to look at, and buy an occassional drink, they rarely have anything to say that benefits mankind or the virginity (metaphorically speaking) of a new FA.

please can i qoute this too funny

Did you all know that OS announced today at a trade show in LA that all coach/economy seats will be removed by Oct 1st to make room for more Prem + seats. I knew this would happen and it's a very smart move. It was also in todays London Telegraph newspaper.

www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/2475517/BA-subsidiary-OpenSkies-to-go-all-business.html

Travelguru in California said: www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/2475517/BA-subsidiary-OpenSkies-to-go-all-business.html

guys:

I went to my application to see the status and I see passed in all the phases except for the phase 4 where it reads " awaiting for medical", but I haven't gotten an offer yet. Does that mean that I still got the job and they 're going to contact me for the medical?

I don't know.........I am sooooooo anxious!!

Pipergirl, yes, you may quote me. You know I'm telling the truth.

Sofia, you probably will hear soon.

Hi I have a friend who is a supervisor at OS and yes they are getting rid of all the economy seats in Oct and going mainly business so that is a fact. Where do you go out of curiousity to apply with OS. I work at jetBlue and for those who didn't get selected here you can try other places. I was rejected at Delta after doing a 30 sec intro and was rejected at Alaska as well but it is good experience with the interviewing process.

dflyo4 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana said: guys RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!! i was HIRED ON WITH OPENSKIES BACK IN FEB.offered the FIRST training course. i am not trying to be negative here. i have severel friends flying with os right now. so i know what i am talking about. as i said before. if you did not get hired on please do not give up. try somewhere else. for those of you who got hired. congrats.

Danni, you got cold feet and you decided not to join...OK, I can respect that decision. But every since you turned it down, you've been literally trolling this board with a level of negativity. It may not be for you...but please respect the choices of others as well as some of the great folks you already know here at Openskies.

It sounds as though you're making us out to be naive or idiots for doing nothing but making a choice, as well as attempting to influence otherwise those who are contemplating accepting a position here. It's a pretty good life here at Openskies, maybe not perfect Danni, but there is no place I can think of that is.

take care,

Tony