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tarc817 in Hauppauge, New York

51 months ago

I've had my masters degree in school counseling for over 3 years now, and there are absolutely NO jobs on Long Island. I'm 27, sick of living at home, sick of subbing to just have a job, and sick of not even getting any interviews. My undergrad is in Human Relations (Psychology and Sociology), and I have no clue what else I can do with my degree. Anyone else in a similar situation? There's nothing else I want to do, and I don't really want to give up on being a guidance counselor, but I feel it's time to look, or at least have a Plan B. I feel like I'm back in high school or college, trying to figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life. I'm so frustrated. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

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vacounselor in Richmond, Virginia

45 months ago

Dealing with the same thing in Richmond, Virginia! I am finding that the it's very political here, I'm seeing lots of kids of parents who work for the school board getting the school counseling jobs. One 21 year old, who hadn't even graduated with her counseling master's yet (still had a couple of classes to complete over the summer), was given a coveted school counseling job at the newest high school in the county...because her father is a superintendent of conduct in the school district. Politics, politics, politics!!! Makes me regret the blood, sweat and tears I put into earning my masters in school counseling!

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frantastic in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

45 months ago

I have a Masters degree in community counseling and after much soul searching I am not sure that I want to be a counselor. What else can you do with a Masters degree in counseling?

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starlamteeth in Los Angeles, California

44 months ago

Hi. After I received a bachelors in Psychology...I was going to further my education in hoping to be a counselor one day. Before I turned in (my application (for a Counseling Masters Program), I went back to my high school to talk to my high school teacher who just recently became a counselor about my decision and luckily she saved me! She told me that finding a counseling job is one of the toughest things to find because you have to either wait for someone to die, retire, or transfer...so the likelihood of me getting out of school and finding a counseling job is very very slim. She told me I could either get lucky and get a job right away or have a black cloud over my head and wait for years before I get hired. Another way, like some posted...politics...you just gotta know people from the inside.

So instead of the counseling path, I actually went to school for dental hygiene and just recently graduated.

Maybe you could work for Planned Parenthood or something and be a counselor for that corporation. Have you looked else where other than a school setting? Or try counseling for "summit schools."

Good Luck everyone.

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Anthony

43 months ago

Hello, I'm so glad to see that I'm not the only one in this situation, but it is unfortunate that we are all struggling. I live on long island and I have my bachelors in psychology and masters in school counseling. I've been applying to high schools and colleges on long island and in the city (where I prefer to go) and I've only have two call backs and one interview. Everyone wants experience, but how am I supposed to get it? I work in a high school working with kids with autism and I also work at as a server at a restaurant at night to make ends meet. I'm becoming very discouraged about finding a job and I'm starting to have a change of heart. I might go back to my graduate school to find out what else I could do with this degree that I'm paying a lot for. Although, this all sucks, I'm relieved to read this thread and to see I'm not alone. Thanks for your posts.

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Julie in Merritt Island, Florida

43 months ago

I am in Florida. I graduated in December with my Master's in School Counseling. My BA is in Sociology and now I feel like there is no path for me with either of these degrees. I've had 2 interviews but both wanted more experience than I got from my internship. I don't know what to do and have loans that must be paid. :(

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Adrienne in Sandwich, Illinois

41 months ago

I am really shocked to read this thread and it makes me feel as though I should share my story. I graduated in May of 08 w/ my M.A.E. in School Counseling (BA in Psych) and moved immediately from Michigan (no jobs for ANYone there) to South Florida. I was hired at a high school as a counselor within 2 months and started that July. Some of the FL school districts at that time were really hurting for employees...I'm not sure if that still rings true, but some districts (I worked for the Port St. Lucie school district) had multiple school counselor openings (I was actually offered two positions). For any of you who have not worked in a school at all (as I had not) I just want to let you know to be prepared to not counsel that much. I only stayed at the school a year and a half because I missed the Midwest, but also because my first year I was an 11 & 12 grade counselor and I thought I was going to die. If you are into school counseling for the therapy/counseling aspect your best bet is a middle school or 9th / 10th grade. I was moved to 9th grade for the start of my second year and it was a better fit for me. However, I still really felt like a glorified administrative assistant. I scheduled, and scheduled, and scheduled. Less than 5% of my time spent as a school counselor was actually counseling. Granted, some of the experiences in that 5% were amazing (helping transgendered student gain self-esteem, encouraging flailing seniors to stick it out and graduate) but there just were not enough of those moments to feel satisfied. I moved into a position as a Learning Center Coordinator at a private college after my stint as a school counselor. I am currently in the process of applying for a second masters (groan...I know....) in Marriage and Family Therapy. After my experience with the politics and bureaucrats of the public school system, I realized I would be much happier working for a small firm or for myself and actually counseling full-time. Also, for jobs,

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Adrienne in Sandwich, Illinois

41 months ago

(Cont.) If you are looking for positions that will accept your degree as a school counselor, look into the social work field. Many positions within social work allow applicants to have earned a degree in a wide variety of human services fields. The pay is not great, but I believe my experience working for a non-profit transitional living program and also my experience as a substance abuse counselor for a methodone clinic GREATLY improved my odds of being hired as a guidance counselor. I worked each of those positions in between my B.A. and M.A. and also during my M.A.

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tarc817 in Hauppauge, New York

41 months ago

Sounds like you've got some nice experiences under your belt, Adrienne. Although I started this thread 9 months ago, I'm still in the same position I was then. Except I'm not working at all now. The district I was working as a substitute teacher in royally screwed me at the end of the year, so I didn't go back to sub. I had mentioned the political aspect of schools earlier, and I stick to it. After what happened to me in June, I've really become open to looking for a job outside of a school. And you're right about being a GC in a high school - it's all about SATs, college placement, classes, graduation, etc - hardly any counseling. Which is why I don't even want a job in the HS (although of course, if offered, I'd take one!). I'm now paying a career coach to try and figure out what is going on. Clearly I'm doing something wrong in my job search since I have had 2 or 3 interviews this year, got to the 2nd round in each (not for a school district, mind you) and then got no call back. I've learned that I don't want to give up on counseling though. I just wish my masters degree wasn't SO specific. I can't fathom going back to school...I did 6 years straight, no breaks. I don't think I have it in me. Plus, I'm still paying off my grad bills! Frustrating frustrating frustrating. n

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Giovanna in Clifton Heights, Pennsylvania

41 months ago

Same situation here in PA. I graduated in 2006 with my M.Ed./Secondary School certification. I've had 3 Long-Term Substitute positions and am embarrassed to say that in the past 4 years, I have been on over 20 interviews (mostly LTS positions)...and....NOTHING! Each position has had 100+ applicants. I've had to pay out of pocket to complete my ACT48 requirements and health insurance is through the roof, not to mention trying to pay off school loans and other bills with a meager unemployment check twice a month. It's very discouraging and does a number to my confidence and self-esteem, but I refuse to give up! I've worked too long and too hard for this and at the ripe old age of 29, I am not going to let politics and budget issues keep me from advocating for students and their families!!!

Plus, I am learning that I don't qualify for much else as I am either over-qualified or under-qualified for positions that I consider to be related to the field of school counseling: ie., admissions counseling, TSS, Case management, Behavioral Support Specialists, etc.. Unbelievably frustrating!

Good Luck To Everyone!

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melissa in Mansfield, Ohio

40 months ago

I am in the same position in pittsburgh, pa and have both my lpc and primary and secondary guidance and usually make it to one of 2 selections and a younger, more inexperienced person who knows someone gets the job! It is so frustrating and disappointing. I have over 10 years of experience in psychology research and it seems like that is where my career is headed!

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Rosie in Roswell, Georgia

40 months ago

I actually started my masters in school counseling and quit after the first semester to begin something else because of the lack of jobs. I figured I could always go back later to get the degree if the job market picked up, but there are so many graduate programs in my state that offer the degree it does not seem likely. Have you thought about working at a university as an advisor? Also there are programs in which you can add on a school psychology degree. I would have loved to become a school counselor, but the job market is terrible unless you are in a rural area.

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Amira in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

I graduated almost 3 years ago with a Master's in School Counseling and could not find a job. I decided I had nothing to lose and began pursuing my childhood dream of acting and modeling. I took some commercial workshops and got some pro pics done and I've filmed 2 commercials and have 4 agents. It's an unstable job but its fun and is osmething I always wanted to do. I've been deferring my loans, but in Aug I will have to start paying. I guess I have about 6 more months of pursuing the arts fulltime to see if it will pay off. If not, there's always the dreaded subbing, tutoring, nanny jobs. How sad!

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Amira in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

I graduated almost 3 years ago with a Master's in School Counseling and could not find a job. I decided I had nothing to lose and began pursuing my childhood dream of acting and modeling. I took some commercial workshops and got some pro pics done and I've filmed 2 commercials and have 4 agents. It's an unstable job but its fun and is something I always wanted to do. I've been deferring my loans, but in Aug I will have to start paying. I guess I have about 6 more months of pursuing the arts fulltime to see if it will pay off. If not, there's always the dreaded subbing, tutoring, nanny jobs. How sad!

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Matt in Spokane, Washington

40 months ago

I am just wondering, how many of you graduated from a CACREP acreddited university and also have Their National Certified Counseling (NCE) certificate?

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Melissa in Greenwich, Ohio

40 months ago

Matt in Spokane, Washington said: I am just wondering, how many of you graduated from a CACREP acreddited university and also have Their National Certified Counseling (NCE) certificate?

I have my lpc, ncc, and mscp and guidNce cert in primary and secondary....still no job!

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Shannon in Albany, New York

40 months ago

It's sad to walk away from something that you worked so hard for, but at the end of the day most of us need income and many of us have student loans. I am three years out and my advice is to cast a wide net - include schools, but also look to the community and local universities. Many of the skills you developed in school counseling are applicable to other positions. For me, the momentum of working and meeting new people has made a huge difference. I'm still disappointed about school counseling, but I'm headed in a new direction and I have some income now - so it doesn't seem as bad.

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Tasha in Brookhaven, Mississippi

40 months ago

I can't believe this is going on in other places. I just thought it was only in "lil ole" Mississippi. I just graduated with my Master's in Guidance Counseling in May 2010. I also have a teaching degree. It's sad to report that I can't find a counseling job or teaching job. I'm also certified in Special education!! I thought sped teachers were in high demand. As someone stated earlier, it is all about politics!! It's not the degree but who you know...SAD!!! Money wasted on degress that do not matter. I'm thinking about gettting my specialist degree but right now what I need is an income...BAD!! You can have all the education and qualifications you need but if you don't have the right connections, good luck! I'm learning the hard way. I even took a minimum wage paying job at Popeye's. I needed money so bad. Yeah right, I know. My checK was 33 dollars!! Needless to say, I quit. I wish you all the best in finding a job. You've earned it. You have invested time, money, and energy only to get nothing in return. I know its hard. Keep the faith and keep trying. 2011 will be a great year!! Happy Holidays and Happy New Year!!

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May in Somerville, New Jersey

40 months ago

Thank you all so much for posting your comments. I really appreciate each and everyone of your comments and find a lot of comfort knowing that I am not the only one. I feel all of your pain and I am so sorry for what you're going through. I really thought NJ was the only one and was preparing to pack my bags for another state. But according to you all, boy was I wrong!

Like many of you, I earned my BA in Psychology and my MA in School Counseling in May 2010. I really worked my tails off in grad school. I earned a 4.0, got my NCC, and even got an article published in the ACA counseling journal. I had a really great experience as an elementary guidance intern and was awarded a position as an emergency certified sub counselor at another school before completing my degree. My principal was prepared to offer me the permanent, full-time position, but unfortunately the position was eliminated due to budget cuts. Just goes to show you that even great credentials can't protect you from the harsh economical times, tough job market, and the overwhelming competition.

A lot of school districts in NJ share elementary counselors across schools or even just cut them out and overburden the school social workers with even more caseloads.

Do any of you share my frustration of not being able to land a non-school counseling job? I am either overqualified for a bachelor's level community agency counselor or I am underqualified for not having an LPC. Do you also share my frustration of not being able to earn an LPC just yet because you can't land a counseling job from which you can earn hours towards your LPC?? I am outraged! I really want live out my dream that I worked so hard for.

You know, I find myself often giving others advice on coping strategies during adversities yet I can't seem to come up with any for myself. I wake up everyday feeling very sad. How do you cope with this very difficult time?

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ALWheeler in Slingerlands, New York

40 months ago

I just stumbled across this forum and am thoroughly discouraged. I am one semester into my Masters in School Counseling and love my program, but am now seriously concerned that I will not be able to find a job when I am done. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, "Overall employment of counselors is expected to increase by 18 percent between 2008 and 2018, which is faster than the average for all occupations," and "Employment for educational, vocational, and school counselors is expected to grow by 14 percent, which is faster than the average for all occupations." Where are these jobs, though? It is troubling that counselor to student ratios remain high, yet schools do not have the funding to create more counseling positions. Any tips/advice for a discouraged grad student? Is it bad enough that I should give up now?

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melissa in Wooster, Ohio

40 months ago

Yes...change careers while you still can! Psychiatric nursing??? I just earned my Lpc after three years of making less than I did as an undergraduate while paying someone to supervise me! I am not making any money yet! I think this was a bad financial mistake for me and my family!

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Juliemccann in Merritt Island, Florida

40 months ago

It's very sad! I graduated a year ago now and none of the members of my cluster have found a job. I have so much student loan debt and no idea how to find a job with this degree. It's sad when would-be counselors are no longer sure if they believe education helps in the job market!

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DZ in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania

39 months ago

Need your input...what would you do...complete elem school counseling certification (one class and one internship) or interview for a short term high school sub counseling job?

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Giovanna in Clifton Heights, Pennsylvania

39 months ago

Do both if you can, going to school part-time!!! Taking LTS's or STS's is the ONLY way to get into a district! You make contacts and connections that way. Plus, being dual certified makes you more marketable! I graduated in 2006 and have had 3 long-term sub positions! Each one has lead to the other. Sooner or later, I am hoping that something will turn permanent! If you become dual certified and take sub positions, you can rule out the stigma of, "it's not what you know, but who you know"! If you don't have the option to do both, my suggestion would be to take the STS. It may turn permanent. Once permanent, the school district will contribute funds for you to become dual certified!

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christine in Mableton, Georgia

39 months ago

I have a master's in Forensic Psych and School Counseling and I'm making what I was making with a bachelors in 1997 because I can't get a job in the field. I must have emailed every principal in Metro Atlanta and guess what? Not one interview. This is soooooo depressing

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dona in Raleigh, North Carolina

39 months ago

the key to getting a jobis having some typr pf certificationor licensre such as LPC, LCAS, or LMSW. Without it, your e=degree is worthless in the mental health field.

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dona in Raleigh, North Carolina

39 months ago

another piece of advice is to be willing to relocate to other states if necessary.

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darcistark in Madras, Oregon

39 months ago

Ok, I have been incredibly ambivalent about the masters in school counseling program. I started the masters in school counseling this summer full time, liked it, but unsure meanwhile. Then I started fall term shadowing in the schools. It took one day of shadowing at the elementary level to quit the program all together! I hated it. However, I couldn't sleep at night thinking I made a mistake in dropping the program. THen I enrolled part time community counseling track winter term and here I am still ambivalent about the program. I received a graduate scholarship and don't want to waste it, but whats more, I dont want to waste my time receiving a glorified 2 year therapy session that gets me nowhere! What to do? Travel the world, work in restaurants and just be a little complacent in that? or try for something more than a BS in social science? I know that going to campus to talk to a counselor will only lead to more ambivalence, after all, they are there to encourage students to keep on in school, its a business!

Any hopes ideas or inspirations out there?

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darcistark in Madras, Oregon

39 months ago

I am in Bend Oregon actually. The school politics are as bonkers here as anywhere else and getting a job...forget it. I was thinking to go abroad on military bases or international schools. I have no kids, just me and my boyfriend who has his education in elementary teaching.

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Kay in San Francisco, California

39 months ago

I've read probably every comment on this thread. Unlike most others on here, I only have a BA but have recently thought of becoming a school counselor preferable at the college level. I recently spoke to an old community college counselor of mine who did in fact mention how I need to watch the job market and budget cuts.

I was very much considering getting a MA in counseling but this thread is definitely making me reconsider what I want to do in life.

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hnuela05 in Kaneohe, Hawaii

39 months ago

I read the same statistic on the Department of Labor website and have read all the posts on this website as well and I'm still going for my MA in school counseling. I currently have by Bachelors of Education but have always wanted to be a school counselor. Hey, if it's all about getting your foot in the door, then go make friends at the school you want to work at. Grab a sub job at the school and associate with the counseling staff. If you have a passion for it, then stick with it, even if it takes a while to get the job. I'm surprised with the feedback on this site because there are positions available here. I know a sub that doesn't even want to be a counselor who has taken a long term sub counseling job. Goes to show that schools still need counselors.

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catheycooks (actually in Austin, Tx) in Houston, Texas

38 months ago

I graduated in '02 from a CACREP community counseling program, completed the 3000 hour internship, and received my LPC. Its been almost 10 years and I'm still just barely getting by. There are 3000 mental health professionals in Austin. The competition is over the top.

Although I interviewed at mental health agencies for 2 years, I couldn't get hired. I'm over-educated, over-qualified, etc. To complete the required hours I had to volunteer my time as a counselor while working a full time job as a human resource manager. The counselors in this town who began their practice in the 80s and 90s will tell you to start a group in order to get new clients, but there are already 100s of groups and frankly, people want to spend their money on different things.

Social work majors have far more options and opportunities. And don't think that accepting insurance makes things better for LPCs because insurance pays very poorly. The counselors who are financially successful only accept cash clients--no insurance.

I'm facing the fact that the investment of time and money was an expensive mistake. Like you all, I am struggling to figure out what community college training to get so that I can make enough to support myself or move to Alaska (seriously!!). You have to think outside the box and be creative, but I don't know how to bend this training into something viable. It's very specific.

It is disheartening to read this thread and learn that all over the US well educated and committed others are struggling. Don't heed the Yahoo! News stories saying that Texas has jobs and that Austin is a great place to live. We are struggling here like the rest of the nation. I'm convinced that reporters are paid to promote certain cities or locals.

Best to you all!

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Arica in Burley, Idaho

37 months ago

Well, after reading all of your posts...here's my 2 cents...do NOT take a master's in school counseling whatever you do....I took a very low paying job here in god-forsaken Burley ID,moved from AZ after my school closed and am not being able to make it it.....the pay is only 28 K and definitely not worth it.....so look into something else!!!! School Counselors will be out the door sooner or later with all the cutbacks in schools....Be well, Arica

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Louise in Houston, Texas

37 months ago

I read all your posting.... same position Masters in School Counseling since 2008 still waiting for a counseling job...waiting...waiting...I thought it was just me but now I know its not....all that time and all that money..time for a new plan.

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Chi in Bronx, New York

37 months ago

What else can one do? To move ahead what area would you venture into. I am also waiting. I am working as a counselor but not staffed as one, meaning that I am not getting paid what I should be paid. I don't know if anyone knows if with my experience I can be bumped up the salary scale? In other words, instead of starting at Salary Step level 1, I start at 2 or 3 based on my number of experiences.

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Brooke in Hudson Falls, New York

36 months ago

Wow. I discovered this thread at the right time I truly believe. I graduated with my Masters in Community and Counseling Psychology from a private school in Albany. It took me four years to complete and will be a lifetime to pay off. I have yet to find a job and am currently a glorified bartender and group fitness instructor. I am unable to pay off my loans and continue to defer them while they continue to accrue interest. My job search is a mirror image from the rest of yours. Most jobs I have come across are Bachelor level positions for non-profit agencies where all the work is home-based and you might pull in a whopping 30k. Guess I missed the course in school where they tell you that part. I constantly go back and forth with abandoning the field and search to find SOMETHING I can apply my masters too, but still there's nothing. I refuse to go on to get an LPC or LMHC when I know in my heart I won't find a job and my passion for counseling has disappeared. I know we got into this not for the money but to help others but come on we have to survive too right! I just can't work a salary for 60 hours per week anymore, being on call for families 24/7, late nights, spending time on my weekends responding to crises and dealing with caseloads that are larger than a classroom for no money!!! If anyone has any ideas of what I can use this masters for please I am all ears. I am just at my witts end right now. I keep thinking where did I go wrong? How did I not know this? And for those of you on this thread not sure of continuing with counseling, my advice is this. The only way to survive nowadays is with an MSW, not an MA and link up with a private doctor now while you can. Become their gopher with assessments and evaluations for 15 an hour while accruing your hours and maybe they will offer you a partner spot. Good Luck

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MKuehlhorn in Gunnison, Colorado

36 months ago

I see this happening all over the country and call it the "perfect storm." Counselors are being "cut" and the kids need are only increasing.

What can we do together that will utilize your amazing skills and assist kids and families, while also bringing in INCOME! This is an important piece.

I am an entrepreneur who has an education background and many hours of working closely with local School Counselors. Your work is important and you deserve to be recognized for your passions. Education is in flux right now, the pendulum is too far to the academic, left brain, side. We may have to work outside of the "system" to offer true solutions.

Any ideas? middleschoolcounselor.com

Matthew

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Ashley in Horseheads, New York

36 months ago

Like all of you, I have been through the ringer with my School Counseling Degree. I graduated with my MS.Ed. in 2009. The first year following I filled four different LTS positons across New York State. I moved in with a friend, a teacher in one of the districts whom I barely knew just to get the experience under my belt. It seemed that it all paid off, my last LTS position of last year opened up into a full time position this year. Just when I thought I'd live somewhere for more then a year, I am being told my position is being cut due to budget constraints. Even for those who are willing to relocate (which I have many times), the economic times don't help.

I am also debating on pursuing a career related (which is difficult to find) or pursuing another masters in social work, mental health or marriage and family counseling. It is difficult to remain positive when all you have done is picked up and moved for two years just to pursue the career you love.

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Fisher- lexington, KY in Hometown, Illinois

35 months ago

After reading this thread, i'm reconsidering going to school for school counseling. Im currently working on my BA in Psychology. I've had aunt whose been telling me to get my MA in Social work and now I think im gonna do that instead particularly clinical social work. Im really disappointed to here about the low jobs in school counseling.

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Joe Jobless got a bad sales job in Elmira, New York

35 months ago

tarc817 in Hauppauge, New York said: I've had my masters degree in school counseling for over 3 years now, and there are absolutely NO jobs on Long Island. I'm 27, sick of living at home, sick of subbing to just have a job, and sick of not even getting any interviews. My undergrad is in Human Relations (Psychology and Sociology), and I have no clue what else I can do with my degree. Anyone else in a similar situation? There's nothing else I want to do, and I don't really want to give up on being a guidance counselor, but I feel it's time to look, or at least have a Plan B. I feel like I'm back in high school or college, trying to figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life. I'm so frustrated. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

You can always work as a therapist/psychologist in any kind of prison.

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can613 in Warrenton, Georgia

35 months ago

I can empathized with you! I have had my Master degree in Counseling Psychology for almost two years, taken the GA certification test, and passed the first part of the test but am struggling with the second part. Right now, I am working two, count it TWO part-time jobs and barely making ends meets. Oh. . .did I mention being in a loan rehab program just to get my student loans off of default, too? I have an interview recently but they decided at the last moment to hire from the inside due to budget cuts. I, too, am also living my parents.

So trust and know that we are both in the same club. But, nonetheless, I am going to tell the same this preacher said, be patient, continue to pray, and be at peace and before you know it, you will be where you have desired to be and have the career you've waited for.

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Arica41 in Twin Falls, Idaho

35 months ago

Hello:

I would truly suggest getting a master's in social work (MBA). With the budgetary constraints in schools, districts are cutting back on counselors - big time. I received my master's in school counseling in 2003 in CA and could not get a school counseling job so I substitute taught for several years and was really frustrated. I finally moved to AZ and got a school counseling job in 2008 but the school was closed in 2010 by the school district!!! Get any degree but a school counseling master's it is a waste of time and money. Arica

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joyfo in Korea, Republic of

35 months ago

Hello,

I am a school guidance counselor employed by DODEA. It will soon be time for me to recertify for the first time. In getting college level credits, what kind of college programs can I sign up for. I assume that it has to be a master's degree program. My license is from North Carolina, so all I need is 6 credit hours, which is 2 classes. Can I take those classes from any university I choose as long as the classes are relevant to school counseling? I have a lot of questions...just don't want to waste any more time or money. Thanks, I do appreciate the information.

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Shelli in Greenwood, Indiana

35 months ago

I so relate to your stories. I live in Indiana ... The same thing is going on here. Got my master's degree in May 2010. It is soooo frustrating. I am a single parent and went back to school to get my degree in my 40s. I have some decent social work experience along with administrative experience (which is a good blend for this position). I got a 4.0 gpa in grad school. I prayed about going and got peace about it. I do have faith that God will provide ... however, it may not be exactly the way that I imagined it. I guess I am on here to open my mind and explore other areas in which my degree could be utilized. I would love to hear any success stories of others and any ways that one would think "outside of the box" to use their degree. I have been applying at all levels of schools and universities. HELP!!!

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Tani in Gary, Indiana

35 months ago

I reside in northwest Indiana and I have been in similar situations as most of you, but thank God, I maintained my full-time employment while completing my degree. I received my M.Ed. School counseling degree in August 2010. I have a B.S. in Criminology and an extensive resume. I have been on my current job for 11 years and was fortunate to be hired in a part-time substitute counselor position while doing my internship at the high school. I continued to work full-time at my current job. I was also blessed to have met and networked with persons who were able to refer me for jobs based on my performance in the temporary position. PLEASE, PLEASE, believe it----it is all about who you know! I received the temporary position only by referral (because I worked with one of the persons hiring for the position) and not by completing an application. Since having that position I have been offered two positions, the only problem is that the positions were only for two or three months with no guarantee that I would be re-hired in the fall. I could not take the risk of quitting an 11 year job with seniority and full benefits for a job that would last a couple of months. I desperately desire to change careers, but not at the risk of not being able to provide for my family, I am also a single parent. All positions in the education field will be compromised this year due to budget cuts and how local government officials view teachers unions. I live only 25 minutes from Chicago and I decided to get my license in the state of Illinois as well. I had to take an additional test in the content area. I am now (as of yesterday) licensed in Illinois and Indiana. The city of Chicago has several jobs in teaching and counseling, but you have to be licensed in the state. I also suggest getting a certificate in addiction and mental health counseling to make you more marketable. I do believe that School Counseling programs should be required to inform future students of the lack of jobs in the f

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miss b in Washington, Pennsylvania

33 months ago

In PA, try the CYBER SCHOOLS!
I have had several friends graduate with me in School Counseling. And they weren't in the school system and didn't know where to get experience. They were hired by the CYBER SCHOOLS. 3 are still with it and LOVE it.
Two left to get into the school system.
Technology!
and the hours are different. And there is COUNSELING!!!

Good Luck

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kyteacher in Somerset, Kentucky

33 months ago

Must be everywhere. I'm in Kentucky. I wish I had done my Masters in speech pathology rather than counseling. I guess the good news is that I have a job. I teach in the classroom. But, I have a masters degree and Rank I (total of 64 gradute hours) in school counseing. I'm certfied K-12, so you'd think I'd land a job. I put a lot of time, effort, and money into my counselor education. I don't mean to toot my horn, but I've held all sorts of positions within my school - department chair, etc., so it's not like I'm lazy or sit back and watch others. My letter of recommendation are all great. I have had a couple of interviews, but they always want someone with experiece. That makes me want to scream! How am I supposed to get it? I know I should be glad I have a job, and I am, but I'm very frustrated and feel that I wasted my money! I am now spending a lot of time online trying to find other things I can do with my degree.

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Shelli in Greenwood, Indiana

33 months ago

I understand your frustration. I was just online researching other careers that I can do with this degree. SO FRUSTRATED!!!

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kyteacher in Somerset, Kentucky

33 months ago

Shannon in Albany, New York said: It's sad to walk away from something that you worked so hard for, but at the end of the day most of us need income and many of us have student loans. I am three years out and my advice is to cast a wide net - include schools, but also look to the community and local universities. Many of the skills you developed in school counseling are applicable to other positions. For me, the momentum of working and meeting new people has made a huge difference. I'm still disappointed about school counseling, but I'm headed in a new direction and I have some income now - so it doesn't seem as bad.

I checked into the university here, and they only pay about 35,000 starting out. I make over 50,000 as a classroom teacher, so I didn't think I wanted to take that kind of pay cut. Actually, what I'm finding is that if you leave the school system, you have to take a pay cut and work more time to get it. For exaple, I was offered a job at a community agency for less money that I currently make, but it's year round which once you do the math is a huge pay cut. They preferred a masters degree, but would take a bachelors. I have a masters and Rank I certification which is a total of 64 graduate hours. There is no way I was going to take that kind of pay cut. I'll just sit in my classroom until I die I guess.

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teresa in Danville, Virginia

33 months ago

miss b in Washington, Pennsylvania said: In PA, try the CYBER SCHOOLS!
I have had several friends graduate with me in School Counseling. And they weren't in the school system and didn't know where to get experience. They were hired by the CYBER SCHOOLS. 3 are still with it and LOVE it.
Two left to get into the school system.
Technology!
and the hours are different. And there is COUNSELING!!!

Good Luck

I am Curious as to How one will get in with the cyber schools and what the names of them are. Thanks for any information
Teresa

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