jcpenney salon vs. smartstyle

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Josie Bradshaw in Tualatin, Oregon

58 months ago

I'm a new stylist and have been working at JCP for about 9 months. I don't have any problem getting clients. You really do have control over it by doing a good job so your clients will rebook and refer their friends. I'm plenty busy and have never been pressured by my manager. I also get excellent tips. Just be positive and do a good job and your clients will take care of you.

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peanut1

58 months ago

Janet said: To be honest I actually like working hourly at jcpenney . For one just got a raise an the fact that the hourly pay can go up to 29 dollars an hour that's 43.50 for overtime. I stay pretty busy but I'm more focused on spending most of my valuable time with my faithful client instead of rushing thru clients which is what you do for commission. I really look forward to working at jcpenney for many more years.

Since the salons have done away with commission, how do they decide your hourly wage. I am a master designer and would like to know how working for JCPenneys would be better financially than working for myself renting a booth and paying for my own benefits

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Danny

58 months ago

burned out stylist in Hutto, Texas said: Same with SportClips. Franchise salons seem to be all the same. You're best bet is to go into a privately owned salon. The only thing about a privately owned salon is that most of them do not have benefits. That's one good thing about a franchise, they do offer benefits, but most of them care more about numbers than their employees....

Yes but the problem with the benefits at chain salons is that you cannot afford them! The salon I work in offers benefits but to carry my family on the health insurance costs $467 every pay period (i.e. every 2 weeks)!!!!!

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Stephanie Rivera in Renton, Washington

55 months ago

Danny said: BTW, this sounds like a fake comment planted by a JCP manager or other higher-up representative to me. I don't know any stylists who were there when the company did away with commission that are happy about it. New stylists just out of beauty school are probably fine with the new pay structure but not old-timers. In fact, I've heard they've had a massive exodus of long-term employees, some of whom had been there for years. I also don't know any experienced stylists who will consider JCP salons when looking to relocate their business now. Seems to me that JCP has cut their own throat in regards to attracting and retaining experienced, skilled talent and eventually that's going to greatly hurt their reputation. No offense to new stylists but it's no secret that we all make a whole lot more mistakes when we start out before we gain the experience that only comes with years behind the chair. Well, I work in a mall salon and JCP has always had a good reputation and, in fact, we would refer people to them when we couldn't fit them in at our salon. However, recently I've had a surprisingly large jump in the number of clients in my chair who tell me they went to JCP's salon and got jacked-up, so they come to us for a fix. My suspicion is the new hourly pay structure is forcing JCP to only attract new stylists (and the talentless who can't go elsewhere) and it's causing the quality of the work leaving the salon to plummet. Of course, this is great news for those of us in competitor salons such as mine. !

Yes this is absolutely true. I left JCP after 19 years along with a large group of other long term stylists. We are now all in private salons. The only stylists left are the new one just out of beauty school(and not very professional!) or the ones close to retirement trying to hang on and those ones are BURNT OUT! They offer free Kids HCS on Sundays now and the stylists get paid very little for them. Stay away from JCP, they are evil!

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david in Knoxville, Tennessee

53 months ago

let me say that most people have the wrong idea about hairdressing. it is not up to any salon to provide and keep you clients, that is the hairdressers job. if you're not passionate enough about your craft, then you need to leave the business and find something you enjoy. Working for jcp for several years, i made $42 an hour. fully booked. clients waiting. it's up to you. and btw, my productivity rate was $75 an hour and i accomplished it! Every hour. Every day. Stop blaming others, and be the artist you that only you can create. i love this company so much, now i decided to lead the salon and help my team unleash their passion. Knowledge and believing can go a long way. spend time with my team, all 20 of them are successful and love our salon! and no one walked out when the changes came!

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sidney vallon in Chicago, Illinois

52 months ago

I'll make this very quick and to the point for you: They both pay crap! Both of those places will want full reign of your schedule, pay you pennies and you will be scraping by. No person in their right mind would expect that either one of these jobs would be enough to pay their bills off of. It won't happen, trust me.

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David in Knoxville, Tennessee

52 months ago

I'll just say that I've been at jcp for less than 4 years. We do not make people sign a non compete contract. If the employee is not happy and passionate about their craft, they need to move on to something else. I believe that we should not feel do entitled and earn our clients. The salon cannot make a client like you, it's totally up to you to keep them in your chair. When hairdressers figure out its about the guests and not about our drama, we will begin to have dependable clients. I don't care if we ate working at the best salon in town, the smallest, or the one out of the way, if clients love what you do, they will follow you anywhere. Plus, booth rental comes with no benefits. :)

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sidney vallon in Chicago, Illinois

52 months ago

David, the only reason you're getting benefits at JC Penney is because it's a corporation -- AND they're getting half (or more) of everything you're bringing in. Everyboy knows that it's up to the individual to make the client like them... what does that have to do with anything? It's about putting clients in your chair. And yes, it is the responsibility of JC Penney to market to potential clients for the stylists. JC Penney has its own marketing department, just like any other large corporation.

Macy's salons are now offering booth rental if that tells you anything.

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sparkly1 in Raleigh, North Carolina

9 months ago

Danny said: Yes but the problem with the benefits at chain salons is that you cannot afford them! The salon I work in offers benefits but to carry my family on the health insurance costs $467 every pay period (i.e. every 2 weeks)!!!!!

I find that the medical and benefits package at JC Penney Salon is very affordable. And the medical coverage is very good. I have the best medical lns they offer plus a 401 k plan extra hospital insurance, dental and life insurance for slightly less than $200. a month! PlusI get accrued time off. Where can you get anything close to that at a private salon?

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Lisa in Houston, Texas

5 months ago

david in Knoxville, Tennessee said: let me say that most people have the wrong idea about hairdressing. it is not up to any salon to provide and keep you clients, that is the hairdressers job. if you're not passionate enough about your craft, then you need to leave the business and find something you enjoy. Working for jcp for several years, i made $42 an hour. fully booked. clients waiting. it's up to you. and btw, my productivity rate was $75 an hour and i accomplished it! Every hour. Every day. Stop blaming others, and be the artist you that only you can create. i love this company so much, now i decided to lead the salon and help my team unleash their passion. Knowledge and believing can go a long way. spend time with my team, all 20 of them are successful and love our salon! and no one walked out when the changes came!

$42 ?? A hour I've been with jcp salon for 14years & it's not way you're getting $42 a hr . This has to be someone in a higher level trying to make it seem what it's not.

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Lisa in Houston, Texas

5 months ago

Lisa in Houston, Texas said: $42 ?? A hour I've been with jcp salon for 14years & it's not way you're getting $42 a hr . This has to be someone in a higher level trying to make it seem what it's not.

People keep in mind jcp salon managers are going to make it seem like it pays so good because the more stylist they have the bigger their check are

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davidkendalllong in Knoxville, Tennessee

5 months ago

Lisa in Houston, Texas said: People keep in mind jcp salon managers are going to make it seem like it pays so good because the more stylist they have the bigger their check are

Lisa, you are unaware of how managers get paid. It has both to do with how many people are on our team.
Email me, dklong@jcp.com

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davidkendalllong in Knoxville, Tennessee

5 months ago

Lisa in Houston, Texas said: People keep in mind jcp salon managers are going to make it seem like it pays so good because the more stylist they have the bigger their check are

Lisa, did you not have any mentors in this business that showed you how to make lots of money? You've. Den doing hair a long time. This amount should not bra surprise for you.

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davidkendalllong in Knoxville, Tennessee

5 months ago

Lisa in Houston, Texas said: People keep in mind jcp salon managers are going to make it seem like it pays so good because the more stylist they have the bigger their check are

Lisa, did you not have any mentors in this business that showed you how to make lots of money? You've. Den doing hair a long time. This amount should not be a surprise for you.

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smk in Beaverton, Oregon

3 months ago

sparkly1 in Raleigh, North Carolina said: I find that the medical and benefits package at JC Penney Salon is very affordable. And the medical coverage is very good. I have the best medical lns they offer plus a 401 k plan extra hospital insurance, dental and life insurance for slightly less than $200. a month! PlusI get accrued time off. Where can you get anything close to that at a private salon?

Is that coverage just for you, you and a spouse or you, spouse and family?

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