Heavy Equipment School

HI,
My son is looking into the heavy equipment program offered by Job Corps. I would be interested in any information anyone has to offer.
Thank You

Before you select any school, training or certification Asked three questions. 1. What audited percent of certified or gradules went to work in their field they have been trained or certified within 60 days and are still working after 6 months. 2. What audited percent went to work for over $14.00 an hour. 3. What audited percent earn over $40,000.00 their first year. Approved school percentages should all be over 70%. Over the last 20 years, only in California has training school had to perform audited job placement rate of over 70%. Under performing training school required to shutdown and be required to return all fees unless they move back out of California or to other states. Most Training and Certification has audited JOB PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE of under 30% and are still allowed to operate in their state. The under 30% that go to work or up grade their jobs skills, write great comments.

Before you select any school, training or certification Asked three questions. 1. What audited percent of certified or gradules went to work in their field they have been trained or certified within 60 days and are still working after 6 months. 2. What audited percent went to work for over $14.00 an hour. 3. What audited percent earn over $40,000.00 their first year. Approved school percentages should all be over 70%. Over the last 20 years, only in California has training school had to perform audited job placement rate of over 70%. Under performing training school required to shutdown and be required to return all fees unless they move back out of California or to other states. Most Training and Certification has audited JOB PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE of under 30% and are still allowed to operate in their state. The under 30% that go to work or up grade their jobs skills, write great comments.

Before you select any school, training or certification Asked three questions. 1. What audited percent of certified or gradules went to work in their field they have been trained or certified within 60 days and are still working after 6 months. 2. What audited percent went to work for over $14.00 an hour. 3. What audited percent earn over $40,000.00 their first year. Approved school percentages should all be over 70%. Over the last 20 years, only in California has training school had to perform audited job placement rate of over 70%. Under performing training school required to shutdown and be required to return all fees unless they move back out of California or to other states. Most Training and Certification has audited JOB PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE of under 30% and are still allowed to operate in their state. The under 30% that go to work or up grade their jobs skills, write great comments.

Before you select any school, training or certification Asked three questions. 1. What audited percent of certified or gradules went to work in their field they have been trained or certified within 60 days and are still working after 6 months. 2. What audited percent went to work for over $14.00 an hour. 3. What audited percent earn over $40,000.00 their first year. Approved school percentages should all be over 70%. Over the last 20 years, only in California has training school had to perform audited job placement rate of over 70%. Under performing training school required to shutdown and be required to return all fees unless they move back out of California or to other states. Most Training and Certification has audited JOB PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE of under 30% and are still allowed to operate in their state. The under 30% that go to work or up grade their jobs skills, write great comments.

Harold in Cerritos, California said: Before you select any school, training or certification Asked three questions. 1. What audited percent of certified or gradules went to work in their field they have been trained or certified within 60 days and are still working after 6 months. 2. What audited percent went to work for over $14.00 an hour. 3. What audited percent earn over $40,000.00 their first year. Approved school percentages should all be over 70%. Over the last 20 years, only in California has training school had to perform audited job placement rate of over 70%. Under performing training school required to shutdown and be required to return all fees unless they move back out of California or to other states. Most Training and Certification has audited JOB PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE of under 30% and are still allowed to operate in their state. The under 30% that go to work or up grade their jobs skills, write great comments.

How do you find these things out. My nephew went to ATS in Victorville Ca 3 yrs ago and still can't find a job. I think the schools are a rip off. He is still paying the loan. Linda

That comment has SOME merrit. Those figures don't quite align.$14.00 a hour times 2,080 hours in a perfect year only comes out to $29,120 not $40K
Those figures can differ from state to state depending on the demographics. In Pennsylvania if a school is State authorized to train for funding grants, then the requirements are at a even higher standard and more extensive.

Most of the time it's not the schools fault the students aren't working.There could have been a lack of responsibility on the students part as well. What ever happened to being responsible for your own actions.That's been lost over the years. Students/ trainees, no matter what age need to dig in and get motivated to find a job, maybe even relocate, and most students comming out of school need laboring experience as well.They need to learn the job now that they are schooled on equipment operations. So maybe they need to get in the ditch and labor a bit until a peice of equipment comes available.
NCCER is used sometimes as a gimic to get you to come to schools that offer it.It's only reconized by contractors in some jurisdictions,Mostly in the south. NCCER is not necessarily a bad thing.Just sometimes misrepresented. OSHA (fedral / USA jurisdictions) say you must to be certified in 2 things, (Cranes & forklifts)these are mandatory & reconized Nationally.

Most of the time it's not the schools fault the students aren't working.There could have been a lack of responsibility on the students part as well. What ever happened to being responsible for your own actions.That's been lost over the years. Students/ trainees, no matter what age need to dig in and get motivated to find a job, maybe even relocate, and most students comming out of school need laboring experience as well.They need to learn the job now that they are schooled on equipment operations. So maybe they need to get in the ditch and labor a bit until a peice of equipment comes available.
NCCER is used sometimes as a gimic to get you to come to schools that offer it.It's only reconized by contractors in some jurisdictions,Mostly in the south. NCCER is not necessarily a bad thing.Just sometimes misrepresented. OSHA (fedral / USA jurisdictions) say you must to be certified in 2 things, (Cranes & forklifts)these are mandatory & reconized Nationally.

jim in Rome, New York said: ats has outstanding classes and services but good luck getting a job afterwards i went there and graduated last year still cant get a job....

Jim where did you got for your ats class ?

Check LCTI in Allentown PA They are around 92% placement

let me tell you people dont wast your cash on ats school the only school that was worth the time and cash was the florida school dave and pete had so so much to teach you i went to all 3 levels and i am makeing 27 a hour now THANKS DAVE the math you showed me help me so so much i dont know where you are now since the florida school closed but who ever has you working for them has a hell of a man i will never forget you and all you did for me thanks tom.

Mark in Whitehall, Pennsylvania said: Most of the time it's not the schools fault the students aren't working.There could have been a lack of responsibility on the students part as well. What ever happened to being responsible for your own actions.That's been lost over the years. Students/ trainees, no matter what age need to dig in and get motivated to find a job, maybe even relocate, and most students comming out of school need laboring experience as well.They need to learn the job now that they are schooled on equipment operations. So maybe they need to get in the ditch and labor a bit until a peice of equipment comes available.
NCCER is used sometimes as a gimic to get you to come to schools that offer it.It's only reconized by contractors in some jurisdictions,Mostly in the south. NCCER is not necessarily a bad thing.Just sometimes misrepresented. OSHA (fedral / USA jurisdictions) say you must to be certified in 2 things, (Cranes & forklifts)these are mandatory & reconized Nationally.

Why would you get in the ditch and be a laborer when the goal is to be an operator? That's like being a car wash attendant to become a mechanic.

I guess in your case a car wash will be better for you. I suppose you had to manage a construction company before you'd understand.
I guess professional advise don't mean anything anymore.
Talk to the people that you are going to employ you. They'll tell you the same story. You have to start at the bottom and work yourself up.Yes you'll get some oerating time after you get out of school, but you will get some trench time as well as should everyone on the construction crew in their life time.
Not knowing the job and getting on a peice of equipment is like putting the cart before the horse. You have to have job knowledge to be a proficient operator.

Ralph in Allentown, Pennsylvania said: I guess in your case a car wash will be better for you. I suppose you had to manage a construction company before you'd understand.
I guess professional advise don't mean anything anymore.
Talk to the people that you are going to employ you. They'll tell you the same story. You have to start at the bottom and work yourself up.Yes you'll get some oerating time after you get out of school, but you will get some trench time as well as should everyone on the construction crew in their life time.
Not knowing the job and getting on a peice of equipment is like putting the cart before the horse. You have to have job knowledge to be a proficient operator.

I've been an operator for over 30 years and never spent a day as a laborer. There is a reason they call them laborers. If you think the only way to understand whats going on at a jobsite is to be a laborer then I'd love to see the fiasco your sites are. And I'll bet you're the kind of tyrant who screams and cusses his way through the day. People like you have a habit of getting backed over, accidentally of course.

sounds like you know it all. Sorry for others to have to see your actions as a so called human.

Stick to the car wash. It's where you belong!

Ralph in Allentown, Pennsylvania said: sounds like you know it all. Sorry for others to have to see your actions as a so called human.

Stick to the car wash. It's where you belong!

This from some backwards, sarcastic hillbilly. Great management skills, Jethro.

Sugar Britches in Rochester, New York said: I'm saying that the larger scale training schools that you find all over the internet do not seem to be what they are advertised to be. I completely agree to a training program that is actually going to deliver what it promises and gives you the knowledge that you honestly need. I have seen very scary situations involving equipment and do feel that proper training is a wonderful thing. Finding it is the problem. Where do you actually find a training program that is not a rip off. I have been searching very hard to find one. I have in my mind that is what I want for a future career but am unable to find appropriate schooling that an employer will take seriously. I was told that those certifications that those schools offer don't really mean much because point blank they don't give you enough hands on. Even worse for me I am a female and most men won't take me seriously. This is what I want so what are your suggestions on how to start. There aren't very many apprenticship programs available I've already tried that route. Help

Hey BTW look up "internationl 825 union" theyre looking for females plus they paid u to learn * good pay rates *

Hi, Im 18 and currently working at a electric company and going to school for them. I took the job out of high school cause of the money but its never really wanted to do. I always wanted to be a HEO since i was a kid. Since ive been working at the electric co ive gotten to run some equipment but ive not gotten enough experience. I was wondering what the pay is like and how hard it is to find a job in HEO. Any advice would be appreciated.

Travis, you're exactly where you should be right now. You're getting paid in a very competitive job market and, while it may not seem like it, you are getting experience that will benefit you far into the future. There are TONS of HEO's out of work right now and employers can pick and choose the best of the best right now. Sit tight and let your employer know you're open to learning more of the equipment operating end of things. This may not be what you want to hear but you're actually in a good position to set yourself up for a long time into the future. 18 is a great age cause your brain is still a sponge and learning is much easier. The best piece of advice I can give you is "be patient". Keep us posted on the progress.

Thank you i will.