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Rudy in Union, New Jersey 60 months ago |
Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. I have tried googling with mixed results. Can an LPN flush the PICC? In any case do you pull out old heparin or just flush with 3cc of saline follwed by 3cc of heparin? Your observations... |
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annousoy in Dallas, Texas 60 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. |
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annousoy in Dallas, Texas 60 months ago |
For five dollars i will give you the answer to this Question. |
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rUDY in Union, New Jersey 60 months ago |
oK! |
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Kim in Manchester, New Hampshire 58 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. Under LPN's licensure we are not allowed to do anything to a PICC line. |
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bonnie Mannan in Dallas, Texas 58 months ago |
your professional ability depends on your inservice or continuing edcation in I.V. skills. Your best bet is to call your state board and simply ask can I flush picc lines? I have on two occasions called and been told ,if you have practiced the skill, the you are required to continue the skill. This goes for blood, plasma, lipids,hyperelimation,and etc. |
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susan in Stony Brook, New York 58 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. You have to flush with 3cc of n/s followed by 3cc of heparin. These should be in pre measured syringes. |
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kathleen harrison in Hamilton, Ohio 54 months ago |
first i would check with your state board, this can be done online in most states, to see what lpn/lvn's can legally do concerning iv's and picc lines. calling would probably get you a faster response as you would not have to read through a bunch of laws to find your answer. most states do not allow us to flush or do anything with picc lines other than maintain the fluids, and there are catches to this as well. certain fluids can only be maintained by rn's, such as those containing medications, etc. hope this helps! happy hunting! |
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picc certified nurse, crni in Jackson, Mississippi 53 months ago |
you need to check with your state board of nursing because it is decided by your board in the state you practice. you do not remove the heparin. some picc line do not need heparin for different reasons. positive pressure caps or valved lines do not need heparin to maintain the lines. |
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jessie 53 months ago |
It depends on the state. I work in Ga. and LPNs do everything an RN does except initiate blood. However when I work in Tn. it is totally different. |
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Sandra Shields in Halltown, Missouri 53 months ago |
Kim in Manchester, New Hampshire said: Under LPN's licensure we are not allowed to do anything to a PICC line. In the state of Missouri an LPN can flush a picc line. Just use saline to flush it with. |
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sandi in Hollywood, Florida 53 months ago |
in Florida, LPNs cannot push drugs. |
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sally in Waterlooville, United Kingdom 53 months ago |
what is an lpn we do not have them in U.K. |
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Sarah in Morton Grove, Illinois 53 months ago |
I've worked as an LPN in Oklahoma, North Carolina, Virginia and Texas. I did everything but blood--and had basically same responsibilities as the RN, but did run things by the RN(head shift nurse). Of course we had extensive IV training in school and I get close to 100 hrs. continuing ed. in every year. I think in most states it depends on your training and experience. I can't believe that in some states an LPN can't even give IV meds. Not doing IV work would have saved like a month in nursing school!! Lesson--check with the state AND your superior! |
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Shaz in Sterling Heights, Michigan 52 months ago |
If allowed by your States Scope, follow your facility protocol. The NS and Heparin usually come in pre-filled syringes -- NS flush, then med, then NS flush, then Heparin flush. Of course mask, and aspetic technique |
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Lyndie Boyd in Wilmington, Delaware 51 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. Yes
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nurse 8 in Cleveland, Ohio 51 months ago |
No LPN are not by law allowed to flush a Picc Line. Although they piggy back a anti-biotic into an already running line that is going into the Picc Line. Can an LPN flush the PICC? In any case do you pull out old heparin or just flush with 3cc of saline follwed by 3cc of heparin? Your observations... |
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ANNIE MAE in Palm Desert, California 50 months ago |
CAN AN LVN FLUSH A PICC LINE IN CALIFORNIA?? |
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Katiernx2 in Gaithersburg, Maryland 50 months ago |
A PICC line is NEVER flushed with any syringe smaller than 10cc. 5 or3cc will rupture the line and be very serious! |
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Diane in Illinois in Martinsville, Ohio 50 months ago |
Sarah in Morton Grove, Illinois said: I've worked as an LPN in Oklahoma, North Carolina, Virginia and Texas. I did everything but blood--and had basically same responsibilities as the RN, but did run things by the RN(head shift nurse). Of course we had extensive IV training in school and I get close to 100 hrs. continuing ed. in every year. I think in most states it depends on your training and experience. I can't believe that in some states an LPN can't even give IV meds. Not doing IV work would have saved like a month in nursing school!! Lesson--check with the state AND your superior! Have you checked in Illinois because it is not allowed in Illinois. |
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Frank in Raleigh, North Carolina 49 months ago |
I am a LPN at duke (which they call MLPN because we have extra training in med administration), and I am on the IV team there. I am able to do everything an RN does with the exception of pushing some classification of drugs, taking the role of charge, and insert PICC lines. I am able to flush and also trouble shoot simple picc issues/problems. The one thing that we here are also not permitted is taking out picc lines. |
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Sandi in New York, New York 49 months ago |
sally in Waterlooville, United Kingdom said: what is an lpn we do not have them in U.K.OK An LPN is a Licensed Practical Nurse. It requires approximately one year in school, usually Vocational/Trade School. There are programs for high school students to get their LPN while in High school. These programs are very new. I saw them in Florida, where I graduated from a Techical School and got my LPN. In one more year of school, LPNs can take the RN-NCLEX. Every state monitors what LPNs can do legally. I am in NYC and do almost everything RNs do. LPNs make less money of course. Does this help? |
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frans in Knightdale, North Carolina 49 months ago |
thanks, but I was aware of that. the only issue is that I think we should be able to D/C picc. i know we cannot insert them.
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Joe in Union, New Jersey 49 months ago |
God nursing blows.Finally made it out of that miserable field. For hairy old women with warts. |
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Mama Rosa in Atlanta, Georgia 47 months ago |
annousoy in Dallas, Texas said: SASH----Saline-Antibiotic-Saline-Heparin.
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HLS in Corona, New York 47 months ago |
Mama Rosa in Atlanta, Georgia said: SASH----Saline-Antibiotic-Saline-Heparin. SASH is utilized for PICC lines that are in use. As for the being flushed weekly this is done in conjunction with the weekly dsg change for PICC lines that are in and being kept patent while nothing is infusing through it. |
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cynthia in Perry, Florida 47 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line.Yes you can flush a picc line as long as you IV certified. |
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No Name in Jackson, Michigan 45 months ago |
It is against protocal for an LPN to flush a picc in Michigan. Facilities want you to do this, but will not take the responsibilty if something goes wrong. I wouldn't if I were you. |
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steena in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania 45 months ago |
10cc syringe! 10cc! and SASH or SAS. Permission for LPN's to gain more priviledges under their license is changing continuously. as long as your state now permits it, AND you have appropriate knowledge/experience/training it is part of your scope of practice. unless your facility protocol prohibits it. |
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tiye 45 months ago |
I'm a lic. LPN living and practicing in Las Vegas Nv, I would suggest that you go back and look into your state laws because each state is different the nursing laws that govern LPN duties. In Las Vegas LPN do not manage PICC or Flush PICC 2nd PICC lines are never pulled out only by Certified RN's or Specialist definitely not LPN. Again check your state board of nursing and facility protocol. Good luck in your. Tiye' |
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Linda Troiano LPN II in Grove City, Ohio 44 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. LPNs CANNOT do anything with a PICC line, other than perform dsg changes and monitor PICC lines! I have a license in 7 states, and have worked in all of them, either on staff or as a traveler. and even with extended certification, LPNs, still cannot, inject, flush or D/C a PICC line. I would suggest looking at you specific state board of nursing "nurse practice act", or send them an e-mail. |
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Cindy in Steubenville, Ohio 44 months ago |
LPNs in West Virginia cannot do IV PUSH medications, but we CAN flush all lines and do. Using the SASH method for everything except a Groshong which uses no Heparin. We are not permitted to ACCESS a Mediport, but we can flush and set up IV lines. We are NOT permitted to pull any kind of line. As my collegues have stated here, check the guidelines for your individual state. |
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Diana in Bucyrus, Ohio 44 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line. at school, we were told that NO, we were not able to flush a PICC line. But we were able to clean the area. That is for the RN to do. |
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John Coxey in Cranston, Rhode Island 44 months ago |
I am currently an LPN practicing in two states (NY & RI). In New York:
In Rhode Island:
Again ... it depends on the state you are practicing in. Bet bet ... continue your education and grab that RN licence. Hope this helps. Johnny |
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Ray Byrd in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 44 months ago |
An LPN can practice within the "Scope of Practice". The facility you work in is responsible for giving you a job description and the policies of the institution. Some facilities require LPN's to flush Picc lines. You NEVER flush with a syringe smaller than 10ml. Flushing with 8 to 10 ml of saline followed by 8 ml of heparin use to be standard. Some institutions use saline only. |
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CJ in Shreveport, Louisiana 43 months ago |
Rudy in Union, New Jersey said: Anyone know about maintenance of a PICC line.NO L.P.N SHOULD FLUSH A PICC LINE YOUR HOSPITAL MUST HAVE STANDARDS OF CARE.IF IN DOUBT CONTACT YOUR PHARMACY.YOU MUST BE CERTIFIED TO INSERT/DISCONTINUE PICC LINES. |
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Ray Byrd in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 43 months ago |
CJ in Shreveport, Louisiana said: NO L.P.N SHOULD FLUSH A PICC LINE YOUR HOSPITAL MUST HAVE STANDARDS OF CARE.IF IN DOUBT CONTACT YOUR PHARMACY.YOU MUST BE CERTIFIED TO INSERT/DISCONTINUE PICC LINES. May be true where you practice, but not everywhere. LPN's with IV certification can and do flush PICC lines in certain states and facilities. LPN's still don't flush Swanz Ganz or other central lines, but I have flushed Picc lines for 7 years at the facilities I have worked in, in the state Commonwealth of Kentucky. |
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Ruth Higgins in Alabama in Alpharetta, Georgia 43 months ago |
1st of all when in question call your state board. As an LPN we are not allowed to push any IV meds, which is different from hanging IV fluids and maintaining those fluids. As far as a picc line/mediport that is the responsibility of the RN. Why would you want to put your self in the position of a law suit for carring out a higher educated person responsibility. I work in a place where RN's are forever trying to get the LPN to take care of their patients. You have to protect yourself as well as your patient. So NO you can not flush a PICC line. |
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Nurse Michele in Salisbury, Maryland 43 months ago |
An LPN might do something that the other nurses at work say that they can do but in any cases that I know of, LPN's can not do IV push meds. It is best for you to check with your state as well as there should be a facility outline at your place of work. |
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Tracy in West Orange, New Jersey 42 months ago |
As an LPN in NJ , I am able to flush PICC lines, I am IV cerified, I can insert IV's, I must be certified per facility, but it is within the NJ LPN scope of Practice, I can also hang an IVPB, I believe it can't be the first dose, that would be hung by the RN, most of the sub-acute units in NJ are staffed by LPN's with a supervising RN, it would be impossible for one RN to do all IV work |
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TDO in Houston, Texas 41 months ago |
LVN/LPN in Texas, if they have received IV certification, can insert, flush and hang peripherial iv's. In order for a LVN/LVN to handle Central or PICC lines, the IV course taken has to include that specific training. They cannot insert or discontinue a PICC or Central Lines,and they cannot access or de-access a Mediport. |
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Babynurse32 in Mesa, Arizona 41 months ago |
I was a LPN for 7 years and went back to get my RN. I have worked in Ohio and Texas as both and as many other nurses stated know your states scope of practice many co-workers and facilities will have to do things that are not with in your scope as a LPN/LVN but if something were to happen the board of nursing will hold you accountable for knowing your scope of practice. So be smart and always CYA. |
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weezeeharley in Atlanta, Georgia 40 months ago |
As a practicing LPN for over 25 years in GA, the rules have changed so many times, but as of 1/1/09 the Georgia Board of Nursing for LPN's has NO list of what you can and can't do, it's left up to the facility. Care and maintenance of a central catheter, whether it be PICC, portacath, triple leumen, what ever, differs from facility..usually it's saline, medication, saline, heparin...we use saline 10cc's then 5-10cc's hep-lock..which is 100 units of heparin per ml. |
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kodapup in Denver, Colorado 40 months ago |
LPN's in Colo. may flush picc lines, 10cc NS, do not use Heparin, picc lines have positive pressure caps, therefore do not use Heparin, Infusaports are flushed and then Heparin is used when ports are de-accessed. Hope this helps, but if you go state to state you have to check with the Board of Nursing because IV certification does not always transfer. |
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yenwat75 in Lutherville Timonium, Maryland 39 months ago |
Linda Troiano LPN II in Grove City, Ohio said: LPNs CANNOT do anything with a PICC line, other than perform dsg changes and monitor PICC lines! I have a license in 7 states, and have worked in all of them, either on staff or as a traveler. and even with extended certification, LPNs, still cannot, inject, flush or D/C a PICC line. I would suggest looking at you specific state board of nursing "nurse practice act", or send them an e-mail. You may have worked in 7 states but you have not worked in all states.Because in Maryland LPNs can flush PICC lines within the parameters of the nursing regs for "that" state.And be advised, that those regulations are sometimes amended to add or take away duties. So one needs to stay current with theses changes. All of those who answered this blog with the advice to "contact your state board" are the correct ones. You should be very careful about accepting advice from nurses from different states for those states are all governed by different regulations and guidlines. Definitely do not take any advice regarding someone elses instructions for performing a procedure that you obviously have not had any experience with. So, when in doubt, go to the source. Your local Board of Nursing. Its your license.......Protect it! |
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theresacammack@yahoo.com in Houston, Texas 39 months ago |
Kim in Manchester, New Hampshire said: Under LPN's licensure we are not allowed to do anything to a PICC line. This information is wrong. Just check with your hospital policy or check with Local Board of nursing. |
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ellei m in Lexington, North Carolina 39 months ago |
sally in Waterlooville, United Kingdom said: what is an lpn we do not have them in U.K. Yes you do! They are called enrolled nurses in the UK! |
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ellei m in Lexington, North Carolina 39 months ago |
Joe in Union, New Jersey said: God nursing blows.Finally made it out of that miserable field. For hairy old women with warts. Why do you say that, what went wrong in your nursing career? And what are doing now? |
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BuddhaNature 38 months ago |
yenwat75 in Lutherville Timonium, Maryland said: You may have worked in 7 states but you have not worked in all states.Because in Maryland LPNs can flush PICC lines within the parameters of the nursing regs for "that" state.And be advised, that those regulations are sometimes amended to add or take away duties. So one needs to stay current with theses changes. All of those who answered this blog with the advice to "contact your state board" are the correct ones. You should be very careful about accepting advice from nurses from different states for those states are all governed by different regulations and guidlines. Definitely do not take any advice regarding someone elses instructions for performing a procedure that you obviously have not had any experience with. So, when in doubt, go to the source. Your local Board of Nursing. Its your license.......Protect it! Thanks for your comment,which is right on target.LPNS can flush PICC lines in my state, and that is a fairly new occurence. We also must be IV certified yearly. As you said,the best source is each nurses state BON. |
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hedy in Columbus, Ohio 38 months ago |
for the iv therapy, do you have to be tested yeary and certified in your state? |
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