Massage envy

Sorry I started a new theard it just seems the other one was too cluttered with politics. I graduated from massage school on Nov. I recieved the outstanding student award for my class, so I think I am pretty good. But I have not found a job yet! No one is hiring I had my first interview last week, I got the job she said the massage was excellent but they are real slow right now and I would probably only get 1 or 2 massages a day. That wont cover daycare. Anyway enough with the rambling. I just felt I had to explain myself with all the bashing that has gone on. I guess I am finally going to go to massage evny since they do seem to be hiring. Can someone that actually works there tell me something about it? Thank you.

i have worked at 2 different locations in miami. my expeirence at each clinic was very different. one was cool - paid and treated well - and the other was terrible - overwork and pay ripped off. it all depends on the management where you are so no matter your opinion someone will disagree. talk to the therapists at the clinic to find out how it is.

I also have worked at 2 different locations in two different states. I had the same experience at Kison. One location the management really respected the LMT's and the other doesn't give a damn. However, say what you will about ME, I know this to be true, I am working steady and do 5 to 6 1/2 per day. I have developed a great clientle base and it does pay day care. There are many thing wrong with the company but it all depends on the owner and managers. I'm not quit sure how you can get to talk to the therapist though. Good luck.

thank you guys for your input :)

Natley Wilson in Albuquerque, New Mexico said: I guess I am finally going to go to massage evny since they do seem to be hiring. Can someone that actually works there tell me something about it? Thank you.

Natley: I own two ME clinics and we just finished hiring six more therapists. I would have thought that the downturn in the economy would have affected our business adversely but that does not seem to be the case. It could be that clients who are used to paying dayspa prices are looking for a better price point, I don't know. One thing seems certain though, folks want their massage these days more than ever. While it is a good alternative to working at a clinic, spa or club it might be difficult to start a private practice today with this economy. Why don't you swing by the ME clinic there in Albuquerque and talk to some therapists as they leave their shifts. They'll give you the straight story. We have therapists working full time who are making $1,500 checks every two weeks if that is of interest to you.

meowner in Littleton, Colorado said: We have therapists working full time who are making $1,500 checks every two weeks if that is of interest to you.

I don't see how that's possible. $750 a week at $15 an hour means the therapist would have to do 50 massages to make that much.

Is my math wrong?

Yeah...I dont see how someone can make $1500 every two weeks at ME. Unless that number includes tips.

We're still waiting for ANY of the owners of ME to tell us how it is possible for an LMT to make $1500 every two weeks at ME...anyone? Mr. Neher perhaps?

Yo hablo Espanol mi ingles es muy poco, yo soy massagista por un ano de experiencia,trabajo para envy massage,estoy contenta pero quiero ganar mas.
Ojala que mas Ispanos tomen el massage mas en serio y que enpiesen a inplementarlo.

MT n WA in Olympia, Washington said: We're still waiting for ANY of the owners of ME to tell us how it is possible for an LMT to make $1500 every two weeks at ME...anyone? Mr. Neher perhaps?

I have at lease 3 therapists that do. They work quite a bit but that is their choice. We hire therapists to fill scheduling needs but their schedule parameters have to match (when they don't it usually doesn't work out). Most therapists are working 20 - 25 shift hours per week. We're full most of the time so that translates to $1,000 - $1,200 every two weeks. That includes gratuities which are, of course, reportable.

I work for one of few ME owners that pays somewhat decent. Yes, they are out there. But, again, very few. Currently, I take home $1500 before taxes and I ONLY work part time. No, that does not include my cash tips. Yes, it includes my credit card tips. No, I don't do happy endings. Yes, it STILL is lower than the average NCTMB certified LMT in my region. To make that much you have to find the right owner and put in your time. No, that does not mean you have to "blow" your owner either.

Finding the Compensation System that is JUST RIGHT

By Skip Williams

Just as Goldilocks found porridge that was too hot and too cold and beds that were too soft and too hard, we must find a compensation system that is “just right” for our needs and objectives!

Whether you are a Provider or an Owner, the subject of “Compensation” always seems to be at the top of people’s lists of concerns, and everyone seems to have a different opinion. Is there a perfect system by which to remunerate Providers, insure Guest/Client satisfaction and leave a profit for Owners?

resourcesanddevelopment.com/JustRight.htm

rosalinda in Houston, Texas said: Yo hablo Espanol mi ingles es muy poco, yo soy massagista por un ano de experiencia,trabajo para envy massage,estoy contenta pero quiero ganar mas.
Ojala que mas Ispanos tomen el massage mas en serio y que enpiesen a inplementarlo.

Rosalinda,

Mi español no es muy bueno, pero pienso que conseguí el jist de lo que usted decía. pero yo no comprendí una palabras de la pareja en su última oración. ¿Hay una cierta cosa que usted piensa en hacer para ganar más?

Dan

(Lo siento si utilicé grammer o palabras equivocados: D)

lavender in Middletown, Connecticut said: Finding the Compensation System that is JUST RIGHT

By Skip Williams

Just as Goldilocks found porridge that was too hot and too cold and beds that were too soft and too hard, we must find a compensation system that is “just right” for our needs and objectives!

Whether you are a Provider or an Owner, the subject of “Compensation” always seems to be at the top of people’s lists of concerns, and everyone seems to have a different opinion. Is there a perfect system by which to remunerate Providers, insure Guest/Client satisfaction and leave a profit for Owners?

resourcesanddevelopment.com/JustRight.htm

Not sure but at Massage Envy the Therapist makes (on average) $25 - $30 per one hour massage (including gratuity) and the clinic owner makes about $5 per one hour massage (after payroll and overhead).

Is that your dream model?

That model wouldn't work because the therapist is only getting paid to do the massage and nothing for the time they don't have an appointment.

The therapist would be better off making a bit less for each hour worked and being paid the same for the whole day.

Leaving less stress to whether you are going to get an appointment or not.

Less stress better massage for the client. Better massage for the client and everyone wins, including the person who invested the thousands upon thousands of dollars to create a place for that massage therapist or other service provider to work.

If an investor does not see a return for their money they may as well put it in a long term cd or other invesment with a greater return and no stress.

Notice the trend here?

Less stress = Live longer

A win, win for all involved.

lavender in Middletown, Connecticut said: That model wouldn't work because the therapist is only getting paid to do the massage and nothing for the time they don't have an appointment.

The therapist would be better off making a bit less for each hour worked and being paid the same for the whole day.

Leaving less stress to whether you are going to get an appointment or not.

Less stress better massage for the client. Better massage for the client and everyone wins, including the person who invested the thousands upon thousands of dollars to create a place for that massage therapist or other service provider to work.

If an investor does not see a return for their money they may as well put it in a long term cd or other invesment with a greater return and no stress.

Notice the trend here?

Less stress = Live longer

A win, win for all involved.

Start your own massage clinic and you can do whatever you want.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Start your own massage clinic and you can do whatever you want.

Yeah! Start your own clinic! Then you can work your therapists like the task master that you are, pay them little, offer no benefits, and spend your entire day showing what an a-hole you are on internet forums. Then laugh all the way to the bank! That's what this noob does.

Congratulations on YOUR success. A very hot place waits for you after this life.

I already have!

That is why I know what I am talking about.

Thank you.

Lalani Parker in San Diego, California said: Oops, my nastiness was directed toward Gray-hole Neher, not you, lavender...sorry it sounded like I was talking to you! He truly believes he's the only one on these forums who has his own clinic. Such arrogance.

Pretty nasty. I wasn't trying to be condescending - if working at Massge Envy doesn't work for you (and it doesn't for everyone) then start your own business or go into private practice. That works well for many. Besides, I don't believe it will be you who decides where I (or anyone else) reside after death.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Pretty nasty. I wasn't trying to be condescending - if working at Massge Envy doesn't work for you (and it doesn't for everyone) then start your own business or go into private practice. That works well for many. Besides, I don't believe it will be you who decides where I (or anyone else) reside after death.

What exactly do you DO as a 'ME owner' besides post on this forum?

I'm a confused about how LMTs get paid at ME. I've read that they get approx $15 per massage OR $7 if they do not have an appointment. Then they average it to whichever is greater?

So, say you are at ME for 5 hours and have 3 massages that day, would the pay be around $59 then?

Freke & Gandy in Portland, Oregon said: What exactly do you DO as a 'ME owner' besides post on this forum?

Run two clinics and my other business