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rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio

76 months ago

Has anyone done Massage Therapy on a cruise ship? Is it hard to get a job? Do they work you to death? Are they good to work for?

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rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio

76 months ago

i haven't actually talked to anyone who worked on a ship. most of the websites I've looked at seem to be pretty honest about how much you work and if you gewt time off. I think they say the average pay is around 2,000 a month. I don't remember if that was with tips or not. most of the LMTs are hired through an spa agency, not the cruise lines.

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Sue

75 months ago

rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio said: Has anyone done Massage Therapy on a cruise ship? Is it hard to get a job? Do they work you to death? Are they good to work for?

I haven't worked on a cruise ship, but I did work in that industry 10 years ago in administration. Now I am a massage therapist and I had a woman in my school that worked on Carnival Cruise Lines. For virtually all cruise line positions on board, you work very long hours. The woman that was in my class was young and fit. She said that she enjoyed the work very much and didn't get tired like some of her cohorts.

Most people that work on ships do so to travel and see the world while saving $$ since they don't have extensive living expenses--they can just build up a nest egg. The pay on cruise ships for massage is no more competitive than if you were to work at a spa ashore.

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Sharon in Vancouver, Washington

75 months ago

DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT work for a cruise ship. Ever. I made this mistake and was so relieved when I got salmonella and got to leave!

It's slave labor. You work 16 hour days with no breaks, for very little money. Base pay is around $350/month, plus product sales commission & tips. Clients are very stingy tippers because they already paid between $90 and $150 for the massage the in the first place!

YOUR REAL JOB IS TO SELL PRODUCTS. Clients complain because we were trained to constantly talk during the massage to push products.

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Teresa in Gig Harbor, Washington

74 months ago

Has anyone worked for Holland America in the capacity of Cruise Reservations Sales Agent? I am looking into it and have some trepidation so any feedback would be helpful. Thank you.

Teresa

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Jared in Las Vegas, Nevada

74 months ago

I use to be a dancer on Holland America and from what I saw and heard it wasn't that great. They make them all about selling products and the tips arn't even that great anyways if you get any. Also they had to work all the time. To me it seem like they only had 2 days off.

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rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio

74 months ago

Thanks for the great info Evan. I thought I had read that there were places that did the hiring for cruise ships.I didn't see a listing for jobs on cruise ships specifically on the website you listed. You didn't work when they were in port did you? I also didn't understand what you meant by "you can save twelve grants"Do you get many breaks?

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Sue

74 months ago

I think he means 12 grand, $12,000.

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Evan f in Sugar Land, Texas

74 months ago

rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio said: Thanks for the great info Evan. I thought I had read that there were places that did the hiring for cruise ships.I didn't see a listing for jobs on cruise ships specifically on the website you listed. You didn't work when they were in port did you? I also didn't understand what you meant by "you can save twelve grants"Do you get many breaks?

Hello. WHY THEY ERASED MY POST????
I am Evanise......a woman!!!!!!!lol
12 thousand for 8 months average. It could be more if you work on ships in The Caribean or The Mediterrenean lines.Don't forget that you won`t have to pay for room and board.
Yes, you also work on Ports of Call and other ports. You might have time off depending on the volume and your maneger.Don't worry ..you'll have time to see all the places during the 8 months contract.
If you are approved you`ll have to fly (your expenses) to London(round trip tickets required....they will safeguard the return ticket for you). You ll stay at the YMCA and attend daily classes from 7 am til 5 pm. Usually people stay in London(northern suburbs) for a period of 2/3 weeks. Curfew observed...like going to a Catholic School... If they need people PRONTO they will send you (their expenses) to wherever that ship is at.
Beautiful people working on ships. Huge parties. Good friends to meet for life.
Good Luck.
PS.....usually they go hire people in Miami.....but i am not sure.

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salamandar in San Francisco, California

74 months ago

i have been working in cruise for 8 mounts,5 years ago.let me tell you the true story:/1st bad,then good/ prepeare to work 12 hours,per day.if you can not work 2 days,they will trow you out,my friend.there is no mercy!you have to sell product also,if you can not sell ,then you have 1 st warning,your rest will be,from 15 to 10 min,if you can sell ,2nd warning,your rest per week will be decrease,from 1day to half days!50% of staff after 3 mounts,was injured ,from repetitive movements.you start 8 am,1 hour rest,then you finish 8 pm,with massages,then you have to clean the spa,will be 9 pm,then the manager have to see,and you are free!how this sign to you?
the good story is :you see many country,your cruse staff will be with a lots woman,you eat good food,every night is party/avcourse if you can party after 10 massages?/there usualy not american massages therapist,usualy are from filipines,south africa,and east europe!it is not about quality of massage ,it is who will survived it?

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evanise

74 months ago

olean hickman in Sumter, South Carolina said: I am looking for ship job as a massage therapist. This info was good and not so good, but thats life. which is the best ship line to work on?

As a massage Therapist working in a Cruise Ship you are NOT a employee of THAT Cruise Line Company, you are employed by STEINER LEISURE, ENGLAND....BUT YOU ARE A CREW MEMBER SO YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE SHIP LAWS, ETC ETC AND MATES AND THE CAPTAIN HAVE THE AUTHORITY, OF COURSE, TO DISEMBARK ANYONE( of course, if that crew member is a pain in the ass). AS FOR THE cruise lines you ll work for it will no be up to you to choose .STEINER will do it during school time in London. Usually the best ones are Crystal, Holland(much older clientele), Celebrity and Princess. They usually cater for a variety of people and they provide ($$$$$$$$) a better service. Most of Cruise Companies are OK for Massage Therapists.
Good Luck

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Jo in Toronto, Ontario

72 months ago

I just finished massage therapy school and I want to work on a cruise boat. I heard that Princess crusieline is the best for pay and the way they treat you, is this true? and is it easy to negotiate with the company in regards to the hours you work? Is it true that you have to share your bed with other workers during your time working and their time off? What are the perks to working on a cruise line?
What is the best time of the year to look for a job on one?

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olean hickman in Sumter, South Carolina

72 months ago

How did you get on this ship? How long have you been on this ship? How much do you make on the average per week? Is it really that bad to work on ships?

Later,

Olean

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salamandar in San Francisco, California

72 months ago

i have been for 8 mounts,in 2 diferent cruise line one was cheap another exspensive.if you work in usa,in spa,what you making for 4 -5 masages per day,will be the same what you going to make for 12 masages per day,on cruise. the cruise is fun not bad,is the best ever expiriense,a lots of party,the best ever foot,but for massage therapist will be hard!estetian,or cosmetology,plys massage will give chance to survived it-for female,but for man will be like to be ver difucult!
if you like to go on cruise,the best is :barthender/in us-you can be get diploma for 10 days/or if you speak 3 langueges,you can be international hostess/they have the best job/,also working in casino,dancers teachers,all of this you will enjoy the cruise life!
for massage-this can be your last time doing massage,becouse of injury related,about 70%,maybe you you will be in another 30%,who will finish without injury.i was in this 30%,and stil working 12 years,like massage therapist,and personal trainer!
for personal trainer,also there is fun,but you not goig to make any money,like in usa/gym!
the last is very important,you can change your life after cruise line:you can get a lots of busness card,thath is ok,is not like in usa,when you work in spa is not ok!a lots of the guest if they like your treatment,will invated you to work for them on mainland/usa.also if you single,its very easy to marry for cruise staff member,you can start femaly,speshialy a lots of american girls ,maried for italian or french man...german..from the staff!
the last is :you can find job very easy,anywhere in usa,and europe,if said that you was working and finish your contract on cruise line,without injury!cioa

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gloria in Houston, Texas

72 months ago

if you dont mind me asking what line did you work for?

Sharon in Vancouver, Washington said: DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT work for a cruise ship. Ever. I made this mistake and was so relieved when I got salmonella and got to leave!

It's slave labor. You work 16 hour days with no breaks, for very little money. Base pay is around $350/month, plus product sales commission & tips. Clients are very stingy tippers because they already paid between $90 and $150 for the massage the in the first place!

YOUR REAL JOB IS TO SELL PRODUCTS. Clients complain because we were trained to constantly talk during the massage to push products.

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Doris in Toronto, Ontario

72 months ago

I was wondering if anyone knows about jobs for massage therapy in Hawaii....is pay good? is it hard to get a job there if you're from Canada?

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olean hickman in Sumter, South Carolina

72 months ago

send some replys about ship massages, please.

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Vincent in Eindhoven, Netherlands

71 months ago

In januari 2009 I'm going to London for the training academy to become a massagetherapist on one of the Steiner ships.
What can I expect?
For how long will I stay In london?
Does it matter on wich ship they will place you?
Are there any (ex)Steinermassagetherapists who can tell me more about thier life on a ship?

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alex in Los Angeles, California

71 months ago

I Just recently graduate from the massage school in L.A . Could someone be able to tell me what the process are ,for someone like me to be able to apply for cruise ship job ,as a Massage therapist ? What are the requirement and such ? And is this a good start for my career, with cruise ship job ? Or should I look some where else ?

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olean hickman in Sumter, South Carolina

71 months ago

No comment at this time, maybe later

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Cathy in Melbourne, Australia

71 months ago

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR STEINER AS A MASSAGE THERAPIST ??????????? AND IF SO, ON WHICH SHIP?

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Tina in Toronto, Ontario

70 months ago

I worked as a beauty therapist for stiener. at first i was very excited to go to my training in london, england. when you get there, they put you up in the ymca, which houses not only steiners, but drug addicts, youth offenders, etc. it was a bit of a shock for me when i got to the academy. most, but no all of the trainers are full of themselves becasue they are so proud to have gotten to their cheesy position. their are very straight, and by that i mean if that don't like your hair or make up they'll tell you to your face and infront of everyone. they were actually pretty rude, and unprofessional. if you had asked them a question or challeged them their response would be, "why aren't you wearing enough make up?"
from the beginning they teach you how to sell, HARDCORE SELLING. you have to memorize a huge list of products. if i had known earlier that it was all about selling, then i probably wouldn't have joined. myself and others were stuck in a position. we had paid all that money to join steiner and it would be too late to go back now! i especially felt sorry for the people that came all the way from places like south africa and australia...when they realize whats really going on, they up and leave!
when you get on your ship, depending on your ship and your manager, it could be a good or a HORRIBLE experience. managers are absolutly crazy! they yell at you, make you feel horrible, embarress you in front of your team, make you read out your sales at the end of the day (which is embaressing to those who have a low percentage), make you work long hours etc. i had one manager who was a nut job! always lieing to your face and turning around and stabbing you in the back, putting any blame on you! even blaming his staff for not counting the inventory correctly when it was him who had lost the count on his computer! when you are sick, they're response is, "you're not allowed to be sick!" so when you have a fever, you're working!...

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olean hickman in Sumter, South Carolina

70 months ago

No comment at this time. Thanks

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Alan in Cork, Ireland

70 months ago

As a male therapist what is it like working on the ships. Are you treated fairley. What is the training like at steiner.

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Tina in Toronto, Ontario

70 months ago

as a male therapist you are treated just the same as everyone else. but most ships want females. but they will find a place for you. and remember, once you get there, they train you how to sell!

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Alan in Cork, Ireland

70 months ago

I WAS TALKING TO AN EX MANAGER WITH STEINER AND SAID THAT A MALE BEAUTY THERAPIST WOULD WORK WELL. WOULD I FIT IN! I AM CURRENTLY STUDDING FOR CIDESCO AND HAVE COMPLETED THE CIBTAC DIPLOMAS. BIT OF A WASTE OF TIME OTHERWISE.

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Tina in Toronto, Ontario

70 months ago

Don't do it. the last time i saw a male beauty therapist they couldn't fine anywhere to place him, so they just sent him home. not a lot of ships want a male beauty therapist.

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Cathy in Melbourne, Australia

70 months ago

rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio said: Has anyone done Massage Therapy on a cruise ship? Is it hard to get a job? Do they work you to death? Are they good to work for?

Why don't you check out www.steinerleisure.com ? They recruit for over 80% of the luxurious cruise liners. If you are happy working hard, there are many different opportunities with them. I am starting with them early next year as a massage therapist. I don't know which ship I will be posted to. I have heard all the good and the bad comments re Steiner. And have made up my mind, I will find out for myself. I have an 8 month contract.

Best Wishes,

Cathy

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toni in Barcelona, Spain

70 months ago

Vincent in Eindhoven, Netherlands said: In januari 2009 I'm going to London for the training academy to become a massagetherapist on one of the Steiner ships.
What can I expect?
For how long will I stay In london?
Does it matter on wich ship they will place you?
Are there any (ex)Steinermassagetherapists who can tell me more about thier life on a ship?

Hello Vincent, I'm also going to London on genuary 2009 for the training academy though im going like a fitness instructor, we could be in touch by email for any question. its ok? my email is hormi83@hotmail.com , Toni.

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wattana in Chicago, Illinois

70 months ago

I am Thai masaage therapist.I am looking for a job.Can you tell me how to get a job for a cruise ship?

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Shakiva in Chattanooga, Tennessee

70 months ago

I am currently studing massage therapy and I do it because I love the body and the theraputic value of natural healing I am currently studing massage and autism, and I currently practice detoxifications. I have seen so many therapist kill thier career by over working thier hands and bodies trying to make quick money.. A therapist can have a very long and rewarding life or a short painful career, I believe In working smart not hard I would never allow someone to use my skills as a selling tool for thier products, I am paying a lot of money to get my degree and spend a lot of time to become very educated in my field ,I love cruise ships to vacation on and I too looked into the market at one time.. but I have known therapist that has had that experience....all I can say is listen to the comments from people that has had the experience and then do some soul searching, figure out why you're in this profession and make your own decision......

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Vincent in Eindhoven, Netherlands

70 months ago

Hello Cathy,

I read at the forum you also go to the training school in the beginning of januari.
Do you also go to London?
I also go there as a massagetherapist.
I think we must follow the wind,that's all we can do for the moment.

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cburke777@yahoo.com in Melbourne, Australia

70 months ago

Vincent in Eindhoven, Netherlands said: Hello Cathy,

I read at the forum you also go to the training school in the beginning of januari.
Do you also go to London?
I also go there as a massagetherapist.
I think we must follow the wind,that's all we can do for the moment.


Hello Vincent. No it looks like we are going to be trained in Australia, due to the massive expense it costs us Aussies to get to London. Yeah, I am determined to make the experience a GOOD experience, no matter what. Just make sure you don't wear those finger out, just to prove you can do a deep tissue massage. Really protect your body and hands, and try to only give 50% of yourself to each client. All the best !

Cathy

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monbal954@aol.com in Pompano Beach, Florida

69 months ago

what cruise line does steiner company owns? also are they any of the top ones like the princess, carribean, or carnival?

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jjblatham@hotmail.com in Derby, United Kingdom

68 months ago

My wife works for Steiner on a Princess ship. Yes - long hours, hard work, pressure to sell and all that, but the worst thing is that communicating with home and friends is very difficult and expensive. Phone calls are ridiculously expensive. Internet facilities are extremely poor and limited.
Steiner/Princess really do need to improve this aspect of the job!

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Katie in Columbus, Ohio

68 months ago

Hey everyone, where can I find a recruiting agency here in Columbus, OH??? I wish to work as a massage therapist or in some administrative position... Just donno where to start... Thanx in advance

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Katie in Columbus, Ohio

68 months ago

Thanx Danny :) :) :) yes I tried, glad I found this forum... could not find any agencies though... maybe I am not so good in google searching... so if anyone have a link to a cruise ship agency here in Columbus I would appreciate it :) :)

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Marko in Melbourne, Australia

68 months ago

Cathy in Melbourne, Australia said: IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR STEINER AS A MASSAGE THERAPIST ??????????? AND IF SO, ON WHICH SHIP?

Hi Cathy I havent, but would AM tryin to find and apply for a ship massage therapist... Can you help/would be very grateful!!

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Serena Anne in Vancouver, British Columbia

67 months ago

Hi !!!
Wow Im learning so much about Steiner! I have an interview in less than one week in Vancouver,Canada Feb2/2009 as an Esthetician, I guess Steiner refers to as a Beauty Therapist. I understand estheticians only perform salt scrubs, full body relaxtion massage(swedish massage), and facials with electrics. Pretty pleased with that because I still take my time doing some waxing and polish. I just graduated from school not to long ago.
I understand everyones point of views, I would love to meet other people from all over the world but on the other hand wondering if I wouldnt be able to meet these high retail expectations.
I know on the interview day is long, doing a written and performing a service >for my position would be a half body massage. Any tips? and what is this written about?
also all these payments in europe currency sounds pretty high for canadian currency!!!

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Serena Anne in Vancouver, British Columbia

67 months ago

Thanks Tina for your honest opinion!
They're is the perks of travelling and meeting other people from around the world and theres the high expectations and being overworked. I have an interview Feb 2>less than a week!! in Vancouver with Steiner as an esthetician. I was wondering if you did make good money? what if im not able to push products and services? and this ywca sounds scary!
also the payments in europe money would be double for canadian currency!!
how was interview day?
Im sure ill find out more info next week but just wanted to say thanks for your story

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Serena Anne in Vancouver, British Columbia

67 months ago

Also for everyone asking the same repetetive questions about how to get a cruise ship jobs within the spa google Steiner Academy.

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chad in Regina, Saskatchewan

67 months ago

Serena Anne in Vancouver, British Columbia said: Also for everyone asking the same repetetive questions about how to get a cruise ship jobs within the spa google Steiner Academy.

I've been researching Steiner, but are there any other spa companies. it seems like steiner owns the seas when it comes to cruises.

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Serena Anne in Surrey, British Columbia

67 months ago

chad in Regina, Saskatchewan said: I've been researching Steiner, but are there any other spa companies. it seems like steiner owns the seas when it comes to cruises.

Hi Chad,
thta is a good question! sounds like so far steiner is the only company owning all the luxury lines i think over 125 cruise ships. Im wondering if cruise ship doe have one it would be privetly owned. I have an interview on mon i will be back on and explain what had ahppened and ill ask that quesiton as well.

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chad in Regina, Saskatchewan

67 months ago

Serena Anne in Surrey, British Columbia said: Hi Chad,
thta is a good question! sounds like so far steiner is the only company owning all the luxury lines i think over 125 cruise ships. Im wondering if cruise ship doe have one it would be privetly owned. I have an interview on mon i will be back on and explain what had ahppened and ill ask that quesiton as well.

hope your interview goes well. good luck. I have still not really found many other ships that are not stiener. when you look at their site they show about 15 cruise lines that they are affiliated with. and they are all the big ones. I also heard stiener bought up a lot of the seas in the 90's. anyway let me know how the interview goes.
have you looked into yachts. Seabourne. less they have about 200 to 300 people on them. that could be something to think about. some go around the world in 105 days.

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vincent wolterbeek in Freeport, Bahamas

67 months ago

I just started my adventure at Steiner,a week ago I finished training in London.I was there for 3 weeks as a massagetherapist.
A week ago I went to Miami to enter The Navigator of the Seas.
We went yo the caymanislands,Jamaica and now I am in the bahamas for a week.
It's hard work,good tipmoney and not boring.
There is plenty of work on this ship and I am enjoying it.
The YMCA time is alright for a while but it is worth it.
Take care,Vincent

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vincent wolterbeek in Freeport, Bahamas

67 months ago

rubmstr in Columbus, Ohio said: Has anyone done Massage Therapy on a cruise ship? Is it hard to get a job? Do they work you to death? Are they good to work for?

I just finished training in London as a massagetherapist for Steiner.
I stayed for 3 weeks at the YMCA with many other Steinerstudents.
It is worth it,A week ago they send me to Miami to join the Navigator of the Seas.
Last week I went to ther caymans,Jamaica and now I am at the Bahamas.
Next week Mexico and Belize.
It's hard work but good money/tips.
I still have to find my way,but I think I will manage this.
Good luck,
Vincent

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Christina0310 in Baltimore, Maryland

67 months ago

Hello,
I have read some of he comments posted on this site as well as one of the others. I also have had conversations with with one of the counselers at school. The school that I will start attending next week is part of the Stiener Group. I also spoke to someone that i presently work with. His sister-inlaw is a massage therapist on a cruise ship...I believe he mentioned Carnival. from what i have been picking up it sounds like a lot of people get homesick...then there are those that seem to love the perks, but do not want to work much. From my understanding the money is very good and so are the tips...There must be some truth to this beacuse I have read that people have done several contracts. I also believe that people also take advantage of this life style to earn money to put away to start there own buisness. Plus I hear that your friends and family can cruise at a discount price. I plan to work on a ship for 2 or 3 contracts starting 2011. Presently I work for the division of corrections. I start school for massage therapy next week and plan to go into esthics right after..I will retire at the age of 42by Dec. 2010. Please comment back

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Carly in Crofton, Maryland

67 months ago

To Christine
You must be attending the Baltimore School of Massage. I am about to graduate from there, and let me tell you the admissions officers have lied to you. Steiner Group owns 90% of the spa industry on cruiselines. They have a monopoly and they push their students into working on the ships right out of school because they don't know any better. It's slave labor. Once you're on that ship they own you. You are cut off from family and friends and they make you work 12-14 hour days. A normal day for a massage therapist is 4-5 sessions. You would be doing 10-12. You'd do much better to find a day spa in Baltimore, Annapolis, or DC and maintain your freedom. I realize that you're just starting school and that you're still idealistic and excited for the future, but please research all that is out there! You are about to be exposed to so much, please don't let Steiner blind you from other opportunities.

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Ella in San Diego, California

67 months ago

I was not a therapist but worked closely with them. As the saying goes, "Every refuge has its price." Please think twice about working on a cruise ship. The amount of work you do in a short period of time wrecks havoc on your body. You may leave after your contract not ever wanting to do a massage again. You have a roommate in a very, very small windowless cabin. You constantly breathe recycled air. The food is not that great, either. The pressure to sell with Steiner is extreme. I was privy to the comments left by passengers, and every cruise there were multiple comments about how they would never get a massage again because of the hard sell. The therapists are constantly exhausted. Many of them made their way to the crew bar and would get totally tanked to let off steam. You do get 1 1/2 days off, but many times that 1/2 day is only on embarkation day, so you really have only day off. After a few months, the therapists rarely got off the ship because they were so tired. Steiner really doesn't care about you because they know there are many other people waiting to take your place.

With that being said, the plus side is if you are dead broke after going to massage school and have a difficult time finding a job, then working for Steiner is kind of like a time-out to build up your finances. You will meet many people from diverse cultural backgrounds and you will realize how all alike we really are. I rotated on several ships and there were always very few Americans working. The rumor was we are a litigious bunch and so they like to shy away from them. A majority of the people only last one contract. A lot depends on who your supervisor is. A great supervisor can really enhance your experience and a bad one can make your life a living hell. Remember that they are under a lot of pressure, as well. Go into it with the idea that this is a life experience, and you will come out alive and with many stories to tell your grandchildren.

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Bowman23 in stockton, California

67 months ago

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