Medical Billing/Coding

I just finished my course of Medical Billing/Coding from PCDI and I'm trying to find a way to do it from home online. What do I need to do?

I finished my course of Medical Billing/Coding from Pioneer Pacific College and I'm trying to find a job in area Vancouver WA,and Portland OR, but didn't find yet. If is possible help me to get a job from home online, I will be happy. What do I need to do?

Thank you so much for your help.

Sincerely,

Otilia

Being a home based medical billing business owner I get calls everyday asking this same question. In the past there were only generalized books/resources about this topic so people didn’t get the entire story about getting this business started properly. On top of that most of the authors of these books and resources hadn’t even run a medical billing business themselves but put the information together from interviewing medical billing business owners and what they found in the public domain.

Now there is nothing wrong with that but when I started my medical billing business I wanted up-to-date information and I wanted it from people that were actively in the business I was getting into so that they could mentor me beyond what I read in their books but that didn’t happen.

After years of mentoring people get the proper start they needed to get their business up and running I read all of the books on the market that addressed this topic. As of August 2007 I can only professionally recommend the following 2 books to anyone that’s looking to start a home based medical billing business. These books put all the aspects of this industry on table, they are very easy to read and the use of current examples make it very simple for the reader to put the information into action. Do yourself a favor and don’t do anything connected to the medical billing from home industry until you read at lest one of the resources first:

medicalbillingbook.tripod.com - Medical Billing Book: Homebased Medical Billing Start Up Guide

urlfreeze.com/medbill/L-312b/ - How To JumpSart A Successful Medical Billing Service

Lori

I have been looking all over for a cpt billing code resource website. i found a free one at cptbillingcodes.com but I am wondering if there are any others that people know of that are free and good? I am currently working for a cytometry service company.

Jake Smith in Bangor, Maine said: I have been looking all over for a cpt billing code resource website. i found a free one at cptbillingcodes.com but I am wondering if there are any others that people know of that are free and good? I am currently working for a cytometry service company.[/QUOTE

You need CPT codes?? just buy the CPT code book!

I am looking for Medical Billing and Coding job from january 2007, but I didn't find yet.
Maybe I could find cashier in the future.

I am currently enrolled in an online course for medical coding and billing. I was just looking at my future options on this profession. I have made the decision that I would like to run a homebased business in this profession once I graduated. I am doing all of my research now. So any tips that anyone might have on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Doris

Doris Johnson in Greenville, North Carolina said: I am currently enrolled in an online course for medical coding and billing. I was just looking at my future options on this profession. I have made the decision that I would like to run a homebased business in this profession once I graduated. I am doing all of my research now. So any tips that anyone might have on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Doris

Good luck!

Is very difficult to find job in medical billing field without experience.

God blss you!

If you want to do a homebased business, do not waste any time with some courses which won't teach the practical side of the thing. Just contact the medicalbillingcourse.com for your training and assistance in starting that kind of business.
From experience!

It is really hard to do medical billing from home because finding a job is rare. They do have some coding jobs. You should check the wahm forum under coding. Here is the link www.wahm.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=143

Most coding jobs do require at least 2 years experience though.

I'VE GRADUATED 2 YEARS AGO AN HAVEN'T GOT A JOB YET. I'M VERY DISCOURAGED. HOW DO YOU GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR

Do you have a college degree to help as well?

Regards,
www.selfhelpgrowing.com/articles.htm

I HAVE A DIPLOMA FROM A JR. COLLEGE

I just went to school for Transcription... But know that I'm finally finished with that I would like to go for Medical Billing and Coding.... What is the best code books to buy???? During my Hybrid coding class my teacher had a huge code book...but i can't think of it....

Salena,

There are several.......the 'huge' book you were talking about is either the CPT or ICD-9 book!!

You can view different medical billing books here
www.learnmedicalbillingonline.com

Thanks.... I'm trying to go and get my books before classes start.

You're welcome! Just be careful--make sure you get the correct ones the instructor will be using for class!! :-)

Gloria in Meridian, Mississippi said: I just finished my course of Medical Billing/Coding from PCDI and I'm trying to find a way to do it from home online. What do I need to do?

Gloria in Syracuse, NY I have the same problem that you have. I graduated from school the last of April, and cant'find a job. So I think working from home would be great if it paid well.

Gloria Thomas in Syracuse, New York said: Gloria in Syracuse, NY I have the same problem that you have. I graduated from school the last of April, and cant'find a job. So I think working from home would be great if it paid well.

I am also having the same problem, I graduated almost a year ago, I found a job as a receptionist at a doctors office, but I got laid off after only three months and now I would really like to do billing or coding from home, but it is so hard because of all of the scams out there. If you find something, please let me know, I will do the same for everyone else going through this. Thanks:)

I am currently enrolled in an online course for medical billing and coding. I would like to at least get an internship somewhere so I can get on the job experience. I don't know how I could go about doing this. Can anyone help me figure it out? Thank you!

Gloria in Meridian, Mississippi said: I just finished my course of Medical Billing/Coding from PCDI and I'm trying to find a way to do it from home online. What do I need to do?

Hi Gloria,

Did you take your certification ?? If not you need to do so.
No body is going to hire you to be a coder or biller right off school unless you are certified.
I took the same class you did and I was blessed to get a job right after taking my course NOT as a biller nor coder but as a medical collector. Gotta get your feet wet somehow right?
That was almost 4 years ago when I started, and last year I was promoted to the Central Billing department. That's why I encourage you to take you certification so you'll get up the ladder quicker if u are certified. And once you are certified and been doing billing and coding for about 5-7 years than you can do it from home. My Director has been in the business for 15 years and he is just now getting to start his own billing service from home... It may not take a while to be a good biller and coder but it sure it take a long time to be a CREDIBLE biller and coder.

Good luck and God Bless

oops--'your' wife.....

Michelle,

I was looking at pmbausa.com website. I was thinking about joining the association. Can you tell me more about the benefits about becoming a member other than what the website is stating. Could we use the membership logo on our website or business cards? Thank you.

Kathy
Owner of Precision Medical Billing Services

Ok, Thank you.

I really need advice on which way to go. I went through a medical billing/ coding program about four years ago. I was unable to find a billing/ coding job, so I took a job as patient registrar in a hospital hoping to get experience later. Well I haven't been in the medical field for a while now, but would really like to get back in. My hope was to eventually start a business at home or work from home. What is the best way for me to get some experience on a part-time basis ( I work elsewhere full-time)? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Lori in Jamaica, New York said: Being a home based medical billing business owner I get calls everyday asking this same question. In the past there were only generalized books/resources about this topic so people didn’t get the entire story about getting this business started properly. On top of that most of the authors of these books and resources hadn’t even run a medical billing business themselves but put the information together from interviewing medical billing business owners and what they found in the public domain.

Now there is nothing wrong with that but when I started my medical billing business I wanted up-to-date information and I wanted it from people that were actively in the business I was getting into so that they could mentor me beyond what I read in their books but that didn’t happen.

After years of mentoring people get the proper start they needed to get their business up and running I read all of the books on the market that addressed this topic. As of August 2007 I can only professionally recommend the following 2 books to anyone that’s looking to start a home based medical billing business. These books put all the aspects of this industry on table, they are very easy to read and the use of current examples make it very simple for the reader to put the information into action. Do yourself a favor and don’t do anything connected to the medical billing from home industry until you read at lest one of the resources first:

medicalbillingbook.tripod.com - Medical Billing Book: Homebased Medical Billing Start Up Guide

medicalbillingbook.tripod.com - How To JumpSart A Successful Medical Billing Service

Lori

I have fiftenn years of medical billing and coding experience, ther hardest part of starting your own medical business is finding a physician. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks

I see a lot of people talking about how hard it is to get a client or that they want to work from home. If you haven't done billing in a long time, you really need to take a refresher course or join an association. Preferrably, you would join one that has been in business for a while, not a few months. A reputable association will provide you with a great deal of information, free files, mentorship, discounts to industry related products and services, a national conference, email group with experienced billers, and so much more than just a member listing with no contact info and a discount on their certification exam...

You will need experience and if you can't get first hand experience, you really should consider getting certified, again, through a reputable association, not one that's only been in business for 4-5 months. Check the association's better business bureau report.

Getting clients is difficult, so you must be up-to-date on all the regulations for fraud and abuse detection and prevention, HIPAA, and etc. You must be able to demonstrate your knowledge to a physician or they won't even consider turning their business over to you.

You don't have to buy a thing from us to learn about billing. We'll talk over the phone with you and we do have a lot of information that you can obtain simply by visiting our website at www.ambanet.net/AMBA.htm. We are member of the BBB and have been for years. We have great resources for our members that include networking opportunities with seasoned billers. We have thousands of archived posts where people have asked questions and members have answered them on our private email group. We have our 8th annual conference coming up in Las Vegas with a tremendous lineup for new and seasoned billers. www.ambanet.net/2008.htm

The one thing I would caution everyone on is that you should be sure you want to invest the time and resources in this before you buy anything. It's not a cakewalk. But it can be done with dedicatio

I'm looking into taking Medical claims and billing specialists course online with US Career Institute. I have also read other University Schools that offer this course as an associate degree program and above. When it comes to starting a career on this field do I need to go towards a degree program or certification will do the same?

Thank you, I appreciate any advice!

Maria

Maria,

The choice is really a personal preference. There are no state requirements nor do physicans require (none that I am aware of) you have a degree in Medical Billing and Coding.

A certificate program is obviously a shorter one as it focuses on what you NEED to get a job in billing or coding.

My learning site www.learnmedicalbillingonline.com offers the Deluxe Medical Billing Certificate (for those looking to work as a home-based biller) and the Premium Medical Billing Certificate (for those looking for medical office employment).

Good Luck!
Michelle Rimmer, CHI
President-Professional Medical Billers Association

Look into vocational education centers or community colleges. The private college will charge you $10,000+ and the certificate will be worth nothing. The public schools are monitered and accredited. Also they probably have a better reputation then the high cost schools and offer real credits to real universities. A public course in medical billing and coding should cost around $3000 for a 1000 hour course. Also offer college credits toward an AS,AA or BA.

At least look at the public options (many are online classes)before making a decision.

Other posters are correct. You must get your CCS or CPC to be a coder. Billing doesnt requiring a certification (not that I have seen yet) however being able to talk modifiers, Medicare and Medicaid requirements can get you the job. Check out the CMS website

US Career Institute is DETC accredited, however, I can tell you that their students don't usually posess enough knowledge to pass our CMRS exam. www.ambanet.net/cmrs.htm

Certification or a certificate of completion of a billing course is often enough to work in a provider's office or work from home. I think you have to decide what your end result needs to be and what's best for you in the long run. Programs that cost $5-15K are often not as good as what you might learn from a membership to a good association like AMBA and a good online program.

Whatever you choose, be sure to investigate and try to talk with past students.

Good luck.

Cyndee Weston
AMBA
www.ambanet.net/AMBA.htm

Thanks Michelle! I appreciate your advice...I didn't think there was much a difference as far as starting this career! I will check out your sites!

Thanks ya'll for all the advice! I truly appreciate it. I am now looking into taking the course with Allied Medical Schools instead of U.S. Career Institute. Not only they are accredited, but also I can be eligible for a 100% tuition free since I am a military spouse. Husband is active duty and currently deployed to Germany.

Thanks again...I am looking forward to start this career!

Maria

Linda,

Read the original post again and what the question was.

Linda is correct in her assesment of the 'experts' in the field. Experts who add fake initials after their names.....well, that's unethical...and unless you called the certifying organization, and I'm not even sure if they would tell you if the person was truly credentialed, then one wouldn't know.

Hopefully, people that add credentials, have in fact taken the certification exam.

Call the organization and/or association, or online program you are thinking of joining and speak to the person in charge--you will know if someone is bs'ing you, or if he/she truly knows the field!

Good luck in your search--there are many out there to choose from, but not to worry, you will find the right program for you........

The best,
Michelle Rimmer, CHI
President-Professional Medical Billers Association
www.pmbausa.com

Sorry, I meant to say: Michelle, I'm no Patsy.. Just because I might support an organization does not mean I support EVERYTHING the organization does

Michelle Rimmer,CHI in Brick, New Jersey said: FYI.......it stands for 'Certified Healthcare Instructor', a credential offered by the National Healthcareer Association.
www.nhanow.com

I know Michelle, I was making a point.. takes a few more key words and searches to find it. Why doesn't the NHA make available a list of names certified?

You'll have to ask them.

Way to side-step!

Getting back on track here, be sure to check the Better Business Bureau report of any school (or association) you intend to attend or join. www.bbb.org

If the school or association is new or has complaints, you probably do want to keep looking.

Regardless of whether you obtain credentials or not, education is paramount to obtaining a job or working from home.

Certification is a personal choice as it is not required and like Linda said, the only state that requires a billing company to register is New Jersey.

You can check to see if a company has registered by going to www.state.nj.us/njbgs/services.html Clearly, the law requires any billing company in the state of New Jersey to register.

I've been in this industry for about 20 years now and if I were new and wanting information, after reading all this, I would be so confused. Let's see if I can help clear up some confusion.

"Medical Billing" and "Medical Coding" are essentially 2 separate fields.. even though you will find courses that cover both. Usually the courses that cover both fall along the lines of a "Medical Office Administration" course and when combined, the course usually doesn't cover enough of either for a student to complete the course proficient in either field. The course usually also doesn't provide the student enough to pass the certification exam in order to become a certified procedural coder (CPC).

Medical Coding requires certification and includes subjects such as terminology, physiology, anatomy, etc.. and the cost for such a course averages about $3000 or more, and usually requires approximately 18 months to complete. "Medical Coding" isn't something that is condusive to beginning a home-based business. Medical Billing, on the other hand, does not require any type of certification, although education is needed and recommended, and a course is medical billing costs much less and takes much less time to complete. Medical Billing handles accounting of the medical practices patient and insurance receivables. Medical Billing IS condusive and viable in a home-based business.

When performing "medical billing from home".. you are not "getting work" or "working for others" or "employed by others." To do this from home requires that you begin a business which contracts with physicians for the purpose of handling their billing. The physician IS NOT your employer... he/she is YOUR CLIENT.

There are no "national certification examinations" for medical billing. There are no associations who provide "national certification examinations" in medical billing.. because, as I said, a "national certification exam" for medical billing simply does not exist. CONTINUED.

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So.. if a "national certification exam" in medical billing does not exist, you do not have to choose a course of study that is inline with anyone providing this - because, AGAIN, it's an oxymoron, it doesn't exist.

As far as associations go.. in my opinion, an association is an entity that one decides to "associate" with after they are already in the field. How do you know who you want to associate with until you know your field and you know which association provides what, such as.. what is important to you? What is in alignment with your ideals?

For third party billers (medical billing outsourcing agencies), in my opinion, there is no better assocation than HBMA (www.hbma.org) for me, because they have a lot of legislative pull. They have the power to impact our field better than any other association, the look out for us, and because of that, I back them, I support them, I ASSOCIATE with them.

If it is your desire to begin a home-based medical billing business, there are 2 criteria that needs to be considered initially: EDUCATION and RESOURCES. We provide education limited to the field of medical billing and then we refer our students to PMRNC (www.billerswebsite.com) for resources. For those who are interested in the field of "medical coding".. we refer them to the "American Academy of Professional Coders" (www.aapc.com).

Secondarily, for those wishing to begin a business, who wish to be supported along the way, we provide them the resources we have available through www.medicalbillingbusinessresources.com.

The reason why there is so much confusion about "medical billing and medical coding" is because there is so much money being made in keeping people ignorant about the facts of these fields. If someone can lead you to believe that they provide a NEEDED "national certification exam" in medical billing when one DOES NOT EXIST, they'll keep you ignorant until they get your money. CONTINUED...

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When you take courses from these "allied" or "at home professions" or "united career institutes".. or "professional career crap" places.. what you are doing is throwing away your money. Why? Because they fall under what is known as "education clearinghouses." Not only will they "educate" you in medical billing and medical coding, etc, but they also provide you courses in plumbing, getting rich in real-estate, how to deal black-jack, etc. They pay third party people to write course. They then hire people to take these courses and those people then SUPPORT YOU.... when they are just as inexperienced as you are or even moreso! Unfortunately, because of greed/money, education and information is just as corrupt as quasi associations offering "national certification examinations" that simply do not exist.

This really is a great field to get into, but you better be prepared to do your homework and research, because there is just so much crap coming from so many people that sometimes my stomach turns to be in this field.

One last note: The BBB is a "for profit" organization. They are in some areas very well known for their sales tactics. They have never been and will never be considered an end all and be all resource. ANYONE can make a complaint to the BBB and it will be recorded. What you need to look for is "proper resolutions" to complaints given.. and be hesitant when the BBB record is highly negative.

As a business owner for many years, with tens of thousands of customers, I have had 2 people who have made a report against me to the BBB. So, to put this into perspective.. the advice that "if someone has a BBB complaint against them" requires you to "run" or "keep looking".. really isn't reasonable advice.

When posting, state your goals so that your advice is as good as it can be.

Tammy Harlan
Medical Billing Course, LLC
www.medicalbillingcourse.com

Let me clear up a couple of misconceptions.

The BBB is the oldest consumer reporting agency around. They investigate complaints sent to them whether a company is a member or not. If a company has several unresolved complaints, or several complaints, period, it indicates a problem exists with that company. We have been in business for many years and have NEVER had a complaint. We are a member of the BBB, but again, they investigate whether you are a member or not.

Medical coding does NOT in iteself require certification. There are many people that legally provide coding services that have not taken a coding certification. So to say it is required is not exactly true. It's probably a best practice for anyone providing coding services to be a certified coder, but not mandatory.

It does not take 18 months and cost $3000. It can take a weekend bootcamp and as little as $750 for the bootcamp and $200 for the exam and $120 for membership to AAPC.

HBMA does NOT represent small billers. They represent large practice management companies. They believe small billers to be "kitchen table billers" and to my knowledge, the person recommending them has never been a member of HBMA, so you have to take that advice just like the rest, under advisement, but not necessarily act on it.

As for certification -- we have had apx. 1500 people take our exam. It is not a simple one. It now has over 800 questions on it that relate to everything from Red Flag Rules to coding, HIPAA, Compliance and more.

Don't take our exam if you don't want to measure your own knowledge, don't want to add credibility to your name by showing doctors that you have to keep up continued education each year, or you don't want build confidence in yourself.

As I said, people here, including me, giving you advice are giving you their points of view. It's up to you to act on it or not.

There is one thing I think we all agree on though, and that is to do your homework.

And to add one more comment about it being mandatory for coding, the only mandate I am aware of requires Medicare Processors to have two certified coders on staff. That mandate is for the carrier, not the individual coder.

Cyndee Weston
AMBA
www.ambanet.net/AMBA.htm

I am interested in dong a extern/intern in atlanta. I just started school, what are some good locations to start my extern at

Tammy Harlan said: I've been in this industry for about 20 years now and if I were new and wanting information, after reading all this, I would be so confused. Let's see if I can help clear up some confusion.

"Medical Billing" and "Medical Coding" are essentially 2 separate fields.. even though you will find courses that cover both. Usually the courses that cover both fall along the lines of a "Medical Office Administration" course and when combined, the course usually doesn't cover enough of either for a student to complete the course proficient in either field. The course usually also doesn't provide the student enough to pass the certification exam in order to become a certified procedural coder (CPC).

Medical Coding requires certification and includes subjects such as terminology, physiology, anatomy, etc.. and the cost for such a course averages about $3000 or more, and usually requires approximately 18 months to complete. "Medical Coding" isn't something that is condusive to beginning a home-based business. Medical Billing, on the other hand, does not require any type of certification, although education is needed and recommended, and a course is medical billing costs much less and takes much less time to complete. Medical Billing handles accounting of the medical practices patient and insurance receivables. Medical Billing IS condusive and viable in a home-based business.

When performing "medical billing from home".. you are not "getting work" or "working for others" or "employed by others." To do this from home requires that you begin a business which contracts with physicians for the purpose of handling their billing. The physician IS NOT your employer... he/she is YOUR CLIENT.

There are no "national certification examinations" for medical billing. There are no associations who provide "national certification examinations" in medical billing.. because, as I said, a "national certification exam" for medical billing simply does not exist.Ta

Tammy H, reading your comments was very helpful. Your comments cleared up some confusion. You are clear and concise in your explanation. I am a stay at home mom with two young children, 7 and 11. I expect to be needed at home for 6 to 10 more years. I'm not against working outside the home but would prefer to do somwthing that gives me flexibility while still meeting the needs of my children. This is why I've been looking into Medical Billing and Coding. You cleared up the fact that they are two different professions. Medical Coding interests me as Medical Billing sounds too much like running a business.

I have a couple of concerns. Maybe you can claify. I'm reading on line about people who have "graduated or finished" their courses and they are having difficulty finding a job. I would hate to go through the process only to find I can't secure employment. Also, I originally thought Medical Coding was a good "in home" job but, the more I read the more it sounds as though Medical Coding is an "in office" position. Is that right?

I have a BS degree(concentration in Business and Psychology). I worked in a corporate enviornment for 17 years before I decided to stay home. I worked in HR and had a lot of exposure.I'd like to think with good Management/Administrative experience,a certificate(showing I have the needed knowledge) and a mature, professional presentation, I would be able to get work. I know experience is important but I approached this with the optimism I would be able to get the specific area of knowledge and get a job. Would like to hear your thoughts.

I was wondering if anyone has taken the Medical Billing and Coding at Everest College in Atlanta. I am working full time (8 hrs a day) and planning on taking class at night 5 days a week from 6 to 10. Is there alot of study during the week or can I do it on weekends? Anyone with advise, it would really be appreciated.

Joanna - coding is not something that a lot of people are able to do from home unless you are lucky enough to find a billing company or hospital or clinic where you can access patient records electronically. You don't have to go to a school, rather a class or bootcamp weekend for coding and then take the exam to become certified. Otherwise, you probably could not get a coding job.

You work as an apprentice (CPC-A) for 2 years before getting the full CPC, unless you already have 2 years of experience doing coding. It costs $120 for membership to AAPC and $225 (I think) for the exam.

Like someone said earlier, coding just isn't conducive to working at home for the most part. But, medical billing is.

We disagree with some people about certification. Although it is NOT mandatory, it really does improve knowledge and confidence along with billing skills to help obtain work. Doctors know that you must obtain CEUs each year to maintain certification, so no matter what anyone says, it does lend to credibility as well.

With your background, and some good training, you probably could find billing work through a billing company or by doing the business yourself. However, unless you are willing to put in the time to really learn billing, knowing you have to start somewhere, working upward, odds are not great that you will find work or be paid well.

Good luck to you!

Cyndee Weston
AMBA
www.ambanet.net/AMBA.htm

thanks