Employers -- How do you look at degrees from Devry, University of Phoenix, and other similar schools?

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Debbie in Madison, Connecticut

49 months ago

I am just worried about how employers view Devry students.

valentine in Park City, Utah said: Most employers are only concerned if the program is CAAHIM accredited.

www.cahiim.org/accredpgms.asp

You should be fine with any caahim program, regardless if it is online or in a classroom.

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

40 months ago

valentine in Park City, Utah said: Online schools are so commonplace these days, most employers do not take issue with it like they did even a few years ago.

I don't know if Devry is a CAAHIM school or not, but honestly, I feel it would be a waste of time to complete a program that wasn't accredited. If you are not accredited, you are not qualified to sit for the RHIT and that is where the money is, not in the degree, but the credential.

Hi, Devry is Caahim accredited. Our HIT program prepares you to sit for your RHIT certification and is listed on the AHIMA site as the School of the month for its HIT CAAHIM accredited online degree program! It's really a great program. Devry is a University and have been around since the 1930's.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

This was exactly what I was wondering. I am looking into Devry and National American University. This puts me at ease.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Debbie in Guilford, Connecticut said: I chose to go with Devry. I have 6 more classes to go and then my practicum. When I was trying to make my decision, I discussed it with the girl at my husband's work at the Coast Guard that deals with education and she seemed to think because the school had to be approved for the program through AHIMA that that would be what employeers would look at to make sure we would be eligible to take the RHIT exam, etc.

Have you felt you have gotten an education that has prepared you to pass the RHIT exam ?

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Debbie in Guilford, Connecticut

39 months ago

Hoapres, I agree that DeVry isn't for everyone and like I said, I think it depends on what kind of degree you are looking for. For the HIT AAS, the DeVry program and curriculum, like the other colleges, have to be approved by AHIMA in order to be awarded the certification through AHIMA to teach that type of curriculum that is approved through the association. Which means it has to be approved through the biggest HIM association for our field. Since their program is, I feel that if you are a person that works a full-time job or has kids and can't go to a community college or there isn't a local AHIMA approved program out there in your area, then yes it is a good choice. It would essentially take almost 4 years or more to get an AAS in HIT if you went through a CC. I am 42 years old and there is not a local college in my area that has that program or is certified through AHIMA. Plus, I am a military wife and we move every so many years and most likely would have had to transfer before finishing. Trust me, I weighed my options very heavily before choosing DeVry's HIT program.

Heather, I haven't finished the program yet, but I do feel that I will be able to pass the RHIT at some point. Many people still say they to take the RHIT exam soon after you get your AAS. I do think that some work experience would help me pass. A lot of people say that we still need to study on our own and have suggested manuals that will help with that. I do think that going to a CC would be the best option because your classes are longer (16 weeks vs. 8 weeks) and have classroom interaction, but like I said in my first paragraph some people don't have that option.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Devry is closer and I would love to take a class or two on campus.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Hoapres, when I lived in LA it was 22$ an hour so it has went up. It is still very cheap vs. Here. Here I am paying $75/unit because I am out of county. Even though the county line is 10 minutes away. I couldn't believe they even had out of county resident price. In county is like $45/hr or something along those lines.

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

Exactly! Some people do not have the option of going to a campus for either working full time and being a parent or not having a campus near them. Also, when getting the associates degree, you are able to began working in your field. You are also a little over a year away from your bachelors in which you can be an HIM professional and have more earning potential. That is the benefit of the associates degree, but if you want to really put your investment to use, go all the way for the bachelors! Research the salary potentials for that field and hopefully you will see the value of your investment. Private education is not cheap, Devry is not the most expensive or the least expensive.

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

Transfer credits are up to the receiving institution and no univversity can garauntee your credits will be excepted every where. The department of education has recently enforced strict regulations effective July 1, 2011 that restricts Universities of mis-representing themselves. Any University garaunteeing students jobs, transfer credits etc...are not being honest because again its up to the receiving institution. Also, transfer credits are determined by reviewing the Universities accreditation which Devry has the same accreditation as some state schools like the University of Iowa, Ohio State and Northwestern University. Really it is all about being informed. No degree gets you jobs, you as an individual must still interview and land it! Most people who benefit from online Universities are already in careers and understand exactly what employers are looking for or how they are going to use their degree. I got my degree from an online university in business but since i was in my field for years I knew what I needed to advance. The school was accredited and I used my degree to get a better higher paying job. Im 100 % happy with my education and have less debt then someone who attended a state school and lived on campus. Education is expensive period however, without it most people have less options and opportunities. Dont blame the colleges, blame the system. This is why there are big talks in the White House about student loan debt and education. Our very own president struggled with student loan debt! Its a national crisis not limited to online college.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Hoapres, I had this same exact question. Will my credits transfer to another university if I wanted to do a B.S. in HIM? I called University of Cincinnati and spoke to an admissions advisor/rep. To get into their program you need to have an associates degree in HIT. It does not matter where as long as it is CAHIIM accredited. They will accept all of your classes, for profit or not.

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Debbie in Guilford, Connecticut

39 months ago

hoapres in San Francisco, California said: $32K for a starting salary to be point blank honest stinks. I can start off at Costco right out of high school at $12 an hour.

Well, that is because of the area that you live in. Certain states have a higher cost of living and their minimum wage and other starting wages are higher. Like I said in my post, it depends on the state or area. I am currently living in Connecticut and their cashiers start out at a higher rate then when I lived in Virginia, but the cost of living and everything costs more in this state so it offsets itself.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Debbie in Guilford, Connecticut said: That is good to know, Heather. I had most of my previous credits from other CC's transfer to DeVry, even from Strayer University. They just have to align up to the courses. That is the biggest problem is do they match the current courses in the program.

Also, if you look on USA jobs their coder positions and even ROI specialists starts out at - depending on the area - at $32,000. To me to that is pretty good for an associates degree compared to a lot of jobs you get. Like most people starting out in a new profession, I know I am going to have to start out as the low man and even take a lesser position to get work experience and into a company. But I willing to do that.

There are CC's that do offer AAS in HIT fully onlline. Trust me, I looked into those as well. But like I said, those take 16 weeks to complete the semesters and taking 16 credits for full time is a lot. It would take me about 3 1/2 to 4 years to get my AAS still. It doesn't matter if it is online or not. The only problem that would solve is the issue of not having an AHIMA approved program available to me locally.

DeVry is expensive. But I don't have the option of "going away" to college as I am 42 years old and still have a child to raise and a home to care for. I can't just pick up and leave for college like you said. If I was younger, had the option of the only obligation of school, and didn't have a family, a CC would definately be more cost effective. But not everyone has that option later in life.

I used my husband's GI Bill so I was lucky.

That's great that you used his GI Bill! I also don't have the option of "going away" to college. I'm in my late 20's but I am married with two young children. I'm a stay at home mom. I will be hoping to start at $15/hr (Dallas). I know I will be at the bottom all over again (my previous work experience is in mortgage). But with experience, I will get paid more.

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Debbie in Guilford, Connecticut

39 months ago

hoapres in San Francisco, California said: $32K a year stinks no matter where you live.

LOL, yes it does. But trust me, there is a big difference of the cost of living in different areas of the US. To some that isn't a whole lot. To other areas of the country that is a huge difference in minimum wage or a bit higher.

If you take a look at this chart that has all the states and their minimum wages you will see.
www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

hoapres in San Francisco, California said: $32K a year stinks no matter where you live.

$32k isn't fantastic pay but isn't the worst either. I am hoping to start at $15/hr. I know that with time I will move up in pay. I have been out of work for over 4 years (I became a stay at home mom when we moved out of L.A.) So, I know that I will need to start at the bottom all over again. I also don't have any experience in healthcare. Just curious, what is it that you do on the HIM industry and how do you like it? What school did you attend and do you feel that you got a quality education?

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

hoapres in San Francisco, California said: Devry credits won't transfer to Northwestern at least for the business and engineering college. Education is NOT expensive period. Going to the public CC for the 1st 2 years and state university for the last 2 years will be cheaper than getting an AA degree from Devry. Sorry Devry puts you at the back of the line if you are competing against Iowa, Ohio State ...

Again this is your opinion but I myself worked for Devry in the past and recently obtained my degree. I worked in business for many years and reached my ceiling. I have absolutely no worries when it comes to being put at the back of the line as compared to other college grads because my experience puts me at the front. I have years of corporate experience with companies such as GE, prior to obtaining my degree. Quit honestly I have never worked at a company or saw a company care where your degree was from, so long as you had it. It is pretty much a screening method to trim the fat and have quality candidates. I have never ever had a problem finding a job, even in this economy! I do not give the credit to my degree but instead give it to my experience and my ability to market myself. There was a time that I was turned down for a position I was qualified for because I didn't have my degree. From that moment on I decided I had to get my degree and I didnt have 5 years to do it.

Anyone looking to get into any field should research their field. Look up actual job sites like careerbuilder and look up the qualifications that employers are seeking. From there, work backwards to find the school that will meet your needs. If you have the luxury of time or want the college experience by all means go to a state school. Devry is not for everyone. If you have time and saving money is important to you then go to the community college. For me personally, I did not want to be in a class for 16 weeks, I didn't want to be in school for 5 years.

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

If the person wants a degree in a short amount of time, or while they are juggling a full load of parenting, work, marriage etc...then going online might be the only option this person has. So ideally, I think everyone would want to go to the traditional brick and mortar schools. However, this is not feasible for everyone and the times are changing. Notra Dame, North Western and Depaul University are all schools that recently added online programs for adult learners that are accelerated online programs.

Anyone seeking information please do so by gathering facts and data. I would hate to see anyone make decisions based of the point of view of some of the people on this forum as their are very limited and incorrect and are based on individual perspectice. In healthcare, people are going to Westwood college for certificates as medical assistants and are getting jobs in their field and these schools are not even accredited! How do you think that happens? Because employers are not checking the credentials of your school. It is a line item on your degree that could qualify you or not having it can disqualify you for a job.

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EKane in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

Correction, line item on your resume. Also, companies like Devry have corporate education partners. These are companies that they partner with to offer tuition discounts to its employees as a partnership with these companies. If Devry puts you at the bottom of the list why are they corporate partners with Boeing, GE, AT&T and maaaany other major companies? Really where do people get their information from? If the company itself has partnered up with the University, why would they not value the degree? Okay that is all...hopefully people will read this and consider what I am saying. I am not advocating Devry, I am advocating for Online education and education in general! Without your degree you already have experienced what you will get and if you dont do anything, nothing will change. The degree is the immediate answer, at least it was for me! I was at a ceiling of earning about 37,000 a year which many people told me was great for me to just have a GED. With overtime I would bring in about $40,000. When I got my associates degree I landed a new job paying me $45,000 base with no overtime. No grueling hours and the work was easier! I recently completed the bachelors and is looking to get at least $55,000 in my next role. The point is, I received my highest raise ever just by getting my associates! What ever you all decide just get the education! You will not regret it! Yeah there is a lot of politics that goes with going to school such as student loans etc...however, you will open opportunities for yourself that you may not have without!

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

hoapres in San Francisco, California said: It's not where you start that matters but where you end up. I suspect with an AAS in HIT that you might end up at $15 an hour. The medical field is glutted beyond belief with people that can't find jobs. We have entire graduating classes of RNs many with a BSN degree that can't find a job.

I don't know why nurses can't find jobs. They are plentiful out here and there is a major shortage. Possibly because of the experience factor? What is it that you do in the medical field?

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Bean counter in San Jose, California

39 months ago

Stay away from these schools, for a long time now, employers despise them, many companies refuse to include them in their education reimbursement program... one VP of my brother's company once angrily commented "why are we getting all these resumes from applicants with U of Phoenix degree?!?"

Their nasty recruiting tactics resulted in the wasting taxpayers' money -- because many of their students defaulted on their student loans and we, the taxpayers end up paying... while the filthy rich founder of U. of Phoenix and his son bought mansions in Malibu...

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Hoapres,
After a few days of thought and sitting down with my husband for a long discussion we decided that for-profit isn't the way to go for myself. Besides the cost, I don't want to spend all of my years having to defend my degree to others. I also don't want employers to think any less. It's sad but it is reality. I have decided to stick with the community college that I am at. I will possibly obtain a 2nd bachelors later on down the road, a post-bac certificate to obtain my RHIA, or a masters in Health Care Administration. There are quite a few possibilities.

I also haven't placed my eggs into one basket. I also applied to Texas State Technical College. It's the only public Vo-Tech in the whole state of Texas. You'd figure we would have more since the state is so huge! So, whoever accepts me into the program this fall is who I will go with. :)

Another thing that I can admit that bothered me is that for-profit schools are just that, for-profit. They are not out to see you succeed in your education. They are out to line their pockets with more money. I'm not saying that the education is any less or you will receive a horrible education. What I am saying is that for me, personally, I am not too comfortable knowing that all the stockholders really want is my money and couldn't care about my education.

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Heather in Coppell, Texas

39 months ago

Hoapres, I also have to say that when I was doing my bachelors degree it was online. It was through a brick and mortar school. A SMALL private school in Fullerton, CA. Long story short, I decided to go that route because we moved to Texas on very short notice. I didn't want to wait a year to become a Texas resident and I also didn't want to risk that any of my GE's that I worked SO hard to get wouldn't transfer. I started working full time at age 19 and would go part time to the local jr. college. So, you can imagine that it took a while to even complete 12 units, let alone the 40 something that I had completed (it took 4 years!) Taking 2 classes a semester! As my friends were going out, I was hitting the books and working full time. :) Okay, this is getting off topic. I have had too much coffee! Anyway, my husband is a teacher. His principal asked what I did for a living. He said that I was a stay at home mom and I am finishing up my bachelors degree. She asked where, he said where and that it's a small private university about 20 minutes from where we used to live in Los Angeles. That I am doing my coursework online. She said, "Oh, so she is going to a real school!" So, you are 100% correct when employers look differently at education. Even though I received my last 2 years of a 4 year degree online, it's from a non-profit, small private university. And there is a difference between that and UoP. I have noticed that MANY public universities are now offering 100% online.

I hope that you have a great day!

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

I think a lot of people get their AAS from schools like DeVry then when they get a job in their field they continue on their education with other schools for their BA. A lot of companies offer tuition reimbursement only for the field they are employed in so this helps solve a big dilemma for people that need the tuition assistance. This allows them to have a better paying job and still continue their education.

I actually had to interview several people so far that have HIT/HIM careers in the field and the president of the NJHIMA was a lady that started her career later in life as well. She went to a CC but when she got out with her AAS she started in the file room at a big well known hospital. She worked hard and moved up the ladder and look where she is now. But hence she still had to start at the bottom even though she went to a brick and mortar school. I also interviewed the Coordinator for Audit and Quality Monitoring and oversees the manager for the release of information department and neither of them not once made me feel my education or I was ever inferior because I was attending DeVry. You will always see "education snobs” that feel their degree is better no matter even if you got it at a brick and mortar school. But trust me there are people out there that are in positions were you want to work that understand that people come from all walks of life and education and might have had to obtain their degrees later in life like so many people are. They also know how hard it is to attend classes while holding down and job and family and see people that are willing to do that to education people that are hard workers and can balance workloads successfully. If you are working a full-time job, raising a family and still don’t care if it takes you 4 years or more to get AA,S then that is great. The HIT/HIM online programs whether DeVry or online CC’s have to be CAHIMA approved, which means either program has to pass the same standards.

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

I just wanted to make a quick point that people just don't consider. I love how they separate for-profit schools and non-profit. Trust me every school is concerned with making a profit and money even if they get state and federal funding. Don't you think these big state schools make tons of money off of their sports programs? Hello, look at Michigan State and their football team or UConn with their successful basketball team. You can't tell me that they don't make money off of them and aren't concerned with that. In the end, every school makes money and those are profits if they are lining the pockets of anybody that has a connection to the school with that money. How do you think professors get raises and the higher-ups get huge salaries?

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

Yes, most jobs don't require college degrees, but most of those jobs pay minimum wage, which I don't see how anybody can live on that with other state assistance(another issue all together). I do believe that the first two years of a higher education is the basics that get you started in your career. But many people have gotten jobs without degrees and hit a celing because they cannot advance in their jobs without a degree because the positions require one. This is where schools like DeVry and Unniversity of Phoenix have exceled. You have working adults who most likely have families and full-time careers that they have to work around and the online option with the acclerated 8 week sessions allow you to get your degree faster and not take 3 1/2 years to get an associate's then much longer for the bachelors. A lot of people have the experience but not the degree, that little piece of paper. Trust me I researched my options to be very heavily. The only school in the state of Connecticut that offers an CAHIMA approved program was Lincoln College and they are more expensive than DeVry believe it or not! It would be over an hour drive each way for me to go to school in person and they also offer online classes. I would have chosen the online choice because of the long drive but again it would have been more expensive. Their program is even funnier where I believe you take groups of 6 week classes.

I would always encourge young students that don't have the obligations of family and working full-time jobs that have more time to go to a brick and morter school. But for some programs that don't really require a class room experience online classes are great and many colleges are offering them. But like I said there are many working adults now that have gone to DeVry and other for-profit schools that are holding these manager positions that are going to be looking at you.

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

Yes, but you can't tell me that the situation is not manipulated through the use of allow admissions to their school in order for top sports picks to attend their university and play for them in make profits. But that is a whole different debate. Like I said, it isn't put right out there in your face that they are making profits, it's just manipulated differently.

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Bean counter in San Jose, California

39 months ago

It's very sad but read many of these bad schools' graduates actually decided to omit their graduate degree on their resume due to the prevalent discrimination from employers. I remember the first time (20+ years ago) I actually heard about UoP was when an engineering manager commented to me that how embarrassing it was to have only 1 degree and that's from UoP! Subsequently I heard and read so much negative and horrible experience the students suffered after obtaining their only degree and graduate degree -- that not only they couldn't compete in the job market but got stuck with the stigma and student loan.

I completely understand the employers' negative view of these type of schools -- poor quality on both the schools and students who are perceived as lazy .... just want a quickie diploma which is really equivalent to one that you can buy online for a small fee. My colleague is a instructor at UoP and honestly, she's a joke in our dept and it's pathetic she's allowed to teach the same subject matter that she clearly is not qualified for....

UoP's aggressive and harmful recruiting (student) tactics is well publicized, they know the slim job prospects for their graduates and their questionable ability to pay off their loans -- which resulted in taxpayers forking over our hard-earned money to enrich UoP executives.

I was 40, divorced with a child and worked full time when I graduated from california state, I could have grab my degree from UoP but my common sense would not allow me to even consider it for one second. It took me 8 years but I sure glad I did it the legit way.

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Minh in Oakland, California

39 months ago

If I just go for CCA and CCS, any coding program would be okay, wouldn't it? I'm in California, and the only Coding program approved by AHIMA is at Santa Barbara City College. It's an online program, but I feel more confident with an instructor in person. City College of San Francisco has a coding program, but it's not approved by AHIMA. The HIT associate degree is accredited by CAHIMA though.

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

The AHIMA link, which I am sure you have look at it is this www.ahima.org/certification/ccs.aspx I think the requirnments for those certifications are different but they do have prerequisits that you need to pass before they allow you to take the exam. I would contact them directly about that, because I know that for the RHIT you have to get an AAS at a CCHIIM approved school that has gone through the proper steps to get that.

Actually, I found this PDF guide they put out that gives you all the certifications and requirnments. It looks like the CCA has less requirnments than the CCS. Good luck :)

Debbie

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

I think there are defintely a lot of coding jobs, just check out USA Gov jobs and type in medical records technician and they will show you the coder jobs. There are also other coding jobs out there. The problem is actually them wanting coders with experience so you have to be very lucky and assertive in finding an intership that will teach you and allow you to code. I think your best bet is to definitely get that certification and if you got to a school that teaches you hands-on coding that would probably benefit you the most if that job doesn't require and AAS too. Most of all don't take the cheaper way out because sometimes those do have all the qualifications that AHIMA requires you to have to take the exam. Make sure you do your homework on that one : ) You might have to be willing to take another job in a health care setting in order to get into a coding job when it opens up. Alot of successful HIT/HIM people have had to do that and thus learn the ins-and-outs of a lot of areas. My brother went to Virignia Tech and he had the hardest time finding a job when he got out of school. He even had to sell vacuums for a while : ) He finally found a great job not in the field he got his degree in.

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

Yes, that may be true of some coding jobs, but not all the coding jobs. There are still may hospitals and businesses that still do all their coding in-house and want to ensure that their patient's privacy rights are protected through employee's that are held accountable with HIPAA. That isn't necessarily being done when they are outsourced overseas. If I was getting a coding certificate, I would join a coding forum and group like the AAPC and even AHIMA and talk with the people that have first-hand knowledge of this and not just listening to rumors. I still think that the problem with people getting coding jobs is lack of experience and being afforded the opportunity to get that experience through willing employeers. That happens in all kinds of jobs not just coding ones.

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Minh in Oakland, California

39 months ago

Debbie in Branford, Connecticut said: I think there are defintely a lot of coding jobs, just check out USA Gov jobs and type in medical records technician and they will show you the coder jobs. There are also other coding jobs out there. The problem is actually them wanting coders with experience so you have to be very lucky and assertive in finding an intership that will teach you and allow you to code. I think your best bet is to definitely get that certification and if you got to a school that teaches you hands-on coding that would probably benefit you the most if that job doesn't require and AAS too. Most of all don't take the cheaper way out because sometimes those do have all the qualifications that AHIMA requires you to have to take the exam. Make sure you do your homework on that one : ) You might have to be willing to take another job in a health care setting in order to get into a coding job when it opens up. Alot of successful HIT/HIM people have had to do that and thus learn the ins-and-outs of a lot of areas. My brother went to Virignia Tech and he had the hardest time finding a job when he got out of school. He even had to sell vacuums for a while : ) He finally found a great job not in the field he got his degree in.

Wow, your brother has a strong will. I don't know if I can do that. I mean I'm willing to take any job to survive first. But to love that job is not easy.

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Debbie in Branford, Connecticut

39 months ago

Hi, Minh. I am pretty sure he hated that job, but he took what he needed to in the mean time to pay the bills. But he has told me because he now is the regional manager of a company that sells and contracts their products with big national chains like Home Depot, that they look at degrees as showing that a person has committed to their education and started with it and completed it. That shows that a person has the ability to complete jobs and deermination and commitment. There are so many people that think just because they just graduated college and now have a degree a high paying job with be handed to them, but that just isn't the case in most situations, unless like hoapres says you have gone to Ivy Leage colleges. I think internships are great resources for job leads for graduates so you always have to treat it like it is your job that you interviewed for and got. Treat it like you actually work for them.

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Minh in Oakland, California

39 months ago

Hello, Debbie
Regardless, your brother is a tough man. I see that many people are not so flexible, but I understand their point of view. It's perhaps depressing for a coder who earns AHIMA credentials through hard work and determination to work as a cashier, for example. If I was put in that position, I would feel like my talents are used in a wrong place and I would cry.

However, I am fortunately able to get over that feeling. I like to be a coder because the nature of this career. But if I have to do something else for a long time to have my skills appropriately recognized, I will do that. Certainly I don't have to like it.

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seeya in Saint Petersburg, Florida

37 months ago

Hello! I have a question..I have a bachelor degree in another healthcare field. I'm looking to get into RHIT/RHIA. My question is once I receive an AAS degree and become certified ( RHIT) I will immediatly obtain a second bachelor degree in RHIA. What is the job market like? Since I have work experience would this be a benefit?

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meggymuggy in Palm Coast, Florida

25 months ago

Debbie in Madison, Connecticut said: Employers -- How do you look at degrees from Devry, University of Phoenix, and other similar schools? I am wondering how employers look at these online schools verses a degree from a brick and mortar school, community college , or four-year college? I want to get my AAS in Health Information Technology and am torn between a community college's online program versus Devry.

Debbie

If I were you I would probably go for the local community college online degree program over DeVry or U of P. The best online college degree programs are the ones that aren't obvious and stereotyped like Phoenix is.

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Tracy B in Malvern, Ohio

21 months ago

Debbie in Madison, Connecticut said: Employers -- How do you look at degrees from Devry, University of Phoenix, and other similar schools? I am wondering how employers look at these online schools verses a degree from a brick and mortar school, community college , or four-year college? I want to get my AAS in Health Information Technology and am torn between a community college's online program versus Devry.

Debbie


Debbie I graduated with my Associates in Health Information Technology from DeVry in March 2013, my school loans came to an outstanding 41,000 dollars, and that was wihout taking the certification from AHIMA. The good thing is Devry pays for your first exam through AHIMA.Secondly, I haven't been able to find a job in my field in Ohio. All jobs for Medical Billing and Coding require the certification and a BA in Health Information Technology. Good luck. I start classes again this Fall for a BA in HIT Administration, and it will cost another 47,000 dollars. Seems like 88,000 dollars is alot for only making 32,000 dollars a year before taxes??

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eagertofly in Belfast, United Kingdom

21 months ago

I think as an HR person that DeVry is an excellent school with great programs. The only issue I have had is that in my field it is all about customer service/team player and so I look for people who are well rounded. So if I have received a Resume that includes education listing Devry, then I will be particularly interested in any jobs, activities, volunteer etc experiences that show working with others and being well rounded. But that is because my field (not HR exclusively) is like pretty much 100% Customer Service so people experience is important.

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Ryan in Friendswood, Texas

21 months ago

Stay away from the for profits like DeVry, ITT, Herzing, WGU. All these folks want is your $ and do not care about quality of education. There are cc going to total online programs. Check www.CAHIIM.org in your state and select yes for distance education.

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ramzey in Pomona, California

9 months ago

EKane in Chicago, Illinois said: Hi, Devry is Caahim accredited. Our HIT program prepares you to sit for your RHIT certification and is listed on the AHIMA site as the School of the month for its HIT CAAHIM accredited online degree program! It's really a great program. Devry is a University and have been around since the 1930's.

Then why can't I find a job. I graduated 7 years ago with a bachelors in Technical Management.

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denzy in Mechanicsville, Maryland

7 months ago

hello all,

I am interested in the RHIT program and I saw from the CAHIM website that Kaplan online was a school that I could get the degree from. I am only considering Kaplan because I am a military spouse and they are offering a scholarship. I also have other credits that I can transfer over as well as the MYCAA scholarship. So it will cost me little to none to go here, like less than $1000, i have 7 more classes to take, which means i will graduate next year, but I just don't know if I will get hired if I get my AAS degree from here. I will be obtaining my BA online as well at another school online. Has anyone graduated from Kaplan with this program and have you been hired anywhere? This program would cost me $4500 in NC but the schools I have contacted said that I need to live there in order to apply. I am from NC, but we are stationed in Maryland so I dont have a choice to where I go except online.

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Johnny Bulky in Phoenix, Arizona

7 months ago

II would like to offer readers the benefit of having over 10 years-experience with Online education as an Instructor and Course Designer. Anyone who wants to challenge my comments, please have the guts to tell us your credentials prior to making your challenge.
Let me be blunt, do not, I say again do not attend any for profit school (online or on campus). As more and more traditional Colleges and Universities develop Online programs, there are many, many options for people who can only attend college online. I have heard scores of stories from my own former students who could not get a job in their chosen field because they attended a “for profit” College/University. Some of the "for profits" are in real trouble with the Government and a number are in danger of losing both their accreditation as well as their access to student loan programs. There are many, many problems with the “for profits”; chief among these is getting employers to consider them “real schools”. For example, one of the largest "for profits" is infamous for continuing to pull money out of student loan accounts after students have withdrawn from their school. The end-result is the student incurs more debt for classes they never took. Check postings on the internet BEFORE you even contact the school. The "for profits" are no longer about education, they are about revenue generation. They donate MASSIVE amounts of money to political causes and that's why the industry has not been policed better. Look at their graduation rates too...if it is below 65 %, don't even bother with them. Here's is very simple way to determine if an Online school is legit and attending will help your career; find out if their students take exams. Exams are the single most important method to measure learning and if a school does not give students exams, despite any of their claims, it is almost impossible to measure if real learning has take place...employers know this fact and your resume will be tossed out.

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joey66215 in Gulfport, Mississippi

1 month ago

Ryan in Friendswood, Texas said: Stay away from the for profits like DeVry, ITT, Herzing, WGU. All these folks want is your $ and do not care about quality of education . There are cc going to total online programs. Check www.CAHIIM.org in your state and select yes for distance education.

Folks tell me what school is not for profit? Go in and ask to take a free class.. Every school wants money.. You have schools that are subsidized by the state/city and or county governments then they also get Title IV funding or students pay out. Private schools - Get funding from Title IV or out of pocket cost.
This whole "for profits" thing is silly.

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RHIA in Saint Petersburg, Florida

1 month ago

Ryan in Friendswood, Texas said: Stay away from the for profits like DeVry, ITT, Herzing, WGU. All these folks want is your $ and do not care about quality of education . There are cc going to total online programs. Check www.CAHIIM.org in your state and select yes for distance education.

Western Governors University (WGU) is not a "for profit" university like the others you listed.

It is, in fact, a highly respected school. Their RHIA in health information management/health informatics is one of the best in the country. It is regionally and CAHIIM accredited to teach an RHIA program. Their graduates have a 100% pass rate on the RHIA exam and also graduate with an AHIMA coding certification and a number of Microsoft computer programming certifications.

It is very low cost and can be completed in less time than a bachelor's at other universities because it is self-paced.

The only negative is that they do not accept everyone and you have to actually learn all the material, because they are competency-based. It is a lot more work than at most colleges, but that is why their graduates pass the RHIA. They get great jobs in informatics, data analytics, and other new HIM fields, too.

(Just fyi, the pass rate on the RHIA for graduates of other colleges is less than 50%. WGU is 100%.)

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xboxer in Cactus, Arizona

1 month ago

joey66215 in Gulfport, Mississippi said: Folks tell me what school is not for profit? Go in and ask to take a free class.. Every school wants money.. You have schools that are subsidized by the state/ city and or county governments then they also get Title IV funding or students pay out. Private schools - Get funding from Title IV or out of pocket cost.
This whole "for profits" thing is silly.

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I agree.
They just want you to think they don't get anything out of pushing you into an already-saturated field.

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Decemberist in Killeen, Texas

12 hours ago

Bean Counter -

What is your suggestion to a military spouse who is only able to find a job they are grossly overqualified for due to the fact their partner is stationed in an city where you only find an abundance of strip clubs, pawn shops, tattoo parlors and chain restaurants? There is a community college here, but how do you obtain a Bachelor's degree without an online school? I only ask as you seem to morally and educationally superior to the so-called lazy students who lack common sense. How should one go about spending 8 years on a 4 year degree when they move every 2 years?

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RHIA in Saint Petersburg, Florida

3 hours ago

You could consider the RHIA in Informatics from Western Governors University. It would only take you about 2-1/2 years and 10 or 12k. It is not a diploma mill or for-profit. Their pass rate on the RHIA is 100%, I think. You could then get a remote job in coding.

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