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kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi

73 months ago

I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

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kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Lumberton, Mississippi

73 months ago

Yes, "I'M LOOKING EVERY WHERE......EITHER THE POSITION HAS BEN FILLED, OR THEY AREN'T HIRING, OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE 2 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE". I'M NOT GIVING UP!!!

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JanetWilliams in Perry, Florida

70 months ago

kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi said: I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

Just have faith in God. He's moving when we don't even see him moving.

Janet Williams
janety@fairpoint.net

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samantha smith in Atlanta, Georgia

70 months ago

I hope u got a job, i feel u they are asking for two years or more but I hope it worked out keep us posted so maybe you can help me because I am fresh out of school.

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Karen Brown 08 in Wiggins, Mississippi

70 months ago

Hi Samantha,
Well i still haven't been fortunate enough to find anything yet. At this particular time i'm working as a security officer making $8.00 an hour (yea $8.00 bucks). The bills continued to pile up so i had to do something. I am so pissed off with all the drama behind me not being able to find anything in my field or atleast pretty near it..............More and more i am regretting even going back to school. But then again that's a thought that goes through my mind atleast 4 maybe 5 times a day. I'm not giving up though i have gone through too much to stop now! I really want you to know that it does get HARD but HANG IN THERE! And HAVE FAITH!

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Karen Brown 08 in Wiggins, Mississippi

70 months ago

Well the only certification i have is my Certified Billing and Coding Specialist Certification. But i was told that i would be able to find employment with no problem. HELP...................

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4thlibra in Atlanta, Georgia

70 months ago

Have you tried looking at jobs with the State of Mississippi. I found this link www.spb.state.ms.us/aoccdesc/3382.PDF for a health information clerk. The posting ask for one year of experience but the MS might over look that since you have education in the field.

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ladybug25 in Elyria, Ohio

67 months ago

You are not alone I've been searching since "05"

If i find anything before you i will keep you posted on what to do next.
Try to volunteer some places.

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Karen Brown 08 in Wiggins, Mississippi

67 months ago

Hello 4thlibra
Thanks for the link, i will surely use it!!
god Bless,
Karen

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Karen Brown 08 in Wiggins, Mississippi

67 months ago

Hi Ladybug25,

Thank You so much for your comment. I have just started to apply for volunteer positions, but i've found that it's just as hard to do............but i'm not giving up!!!

Again Thanks,
and God Bless,
Karen

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student in Fairborn, Ohio

67 months ago

What certifications do you have? If you only have the basics (CCA,CPC) you can only code for physicians offices. Hospitals,outpaient doctors, surgery centers, all want RHIT's (2 year Health Informatiom Management degree) or a CCS (3 years coding experience prefered to sit for exam, has about a 65% pass rate).

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No one in North Hollywood, California

66 months ago

I can totally relate to what everyone is saying. I have received a Medical Coding Specialist Certificate from a school that AHIMA approves of and it has been nothing but a nightmare. First off I just want to say that these courses are not easy and the way they advertise them makes them sound like any monkey can achieve this document. I just read one reply that says doctors and hospitals are screaming for coders, well guess what not entry level ones. And not ones that have a ccs and no experience. This is such a double edge sword and not fair to all the hard working students out there trying to get hooked up. I briefly worked at a hospital and found that a lot of the workers there were cheating on the ccs. How did they even get the job?? They would go through agencies that would hire them and tell them they had to get the ccs in 6 months. So the agencies friends would get the answers to the ccs and they would all cheat. Some of these women barely spoke english. So how can you pass a test like the ccs if you don't have a good grasp on the english language? Now every time someone cheats and passes it makes the people at AHIMA think wow we need to raise the stakes on this test. I have personally taken this test 4 times and the first part I was 2 points from passing and the second part I passed. When I sent in an appeal to try to get them to give it to me they said no we will give you a discount. I even heard them telling other people that were taking the ccs to turn out their pockets. I will not say which race they were but they were all cheating. I think this is horrible and I think it is very very competitive to get a job. And AHIMA and these quicky courses are making a fortunate off all kinds of people just wanting to work hard for their families. They really prey on women who want to work at home and raise a family. And those of you who have been able to get your foot in the door consider yourself lucky.

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chit in San Diego, California

66 months ago

kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi said: I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

Keep trying, send your resume to big hospital clinics but meantime get any related job in the medical billing or medical clerk so that you can network. Do not just sit there and cry.

chit

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student in Fairborn, Ohio

66 months ago

No one in North Hollywood, California said: I can totally relate to what everyone is saying.QUOTE]

Get ANY job in a hospital while you study to retake the exam. Hospitals promote from within first. If they have any coding/HIM job openings they ask the people who have jobs already if they want to apply. They will consider them first. If no one applies or isn't qualified then the jobs go out to the general public.

Sadly the certificate courses are mostly scams. Most places,even doctors offices around here, want CCS or RHIT (2 year degree). I know some places still hire CPC,etc but it depends on the area. The thing that makes me mad is people don't realize it until its too late. They spend a lot of money (the private tech schools are the worst) and then can't find a job. Then they promise job placement which is never true, or you can work from home which again isn't true. You can work from home but from what I've seen you need a lot of experience, 5 years or more.

I'm going for my RHIT. I'm glad I found this site and researched first.

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Karen in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

66 months ago

Thanks for the comment, but "CRYING", IS THE LAST THING ON MY MIND RIGHT NOW! I should contact that school i attended and let em' know that all the bull i'm going through wasn't mentioned while they were taking my money!!!
But "I'M NOT GIVING UP", i still continue to apply at clinics and hospitals everywhere. But what i really should of done was did some research before hand.

Karen

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Karen in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

66 months ago

I agree with you more than 100%!!!!!!!!!!! There was about 40 of us that graduated last June from this course, but guess what only 2 have been lucky enough to know somebody that knew somebody and are working as coders. All that studying and tremendously hard work, and nothing to look forward to!!!!!!!
I was so excited about graduating and finding "that big job".......... but as i have said many times before "i'm not giving up".

THANKS,
KAREN

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Nadege in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

65 months ago

kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi said: I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

Welc0me t0 the w0rld 0f HIM.. N0 EXIT. M0st 0f friends wh0 g0t graduated last year had made a career change. s0me went t0 be a RN ( IT TAKES 0NLY 1 YEAR) AND 0THER pharmacist..and I'm g0ing f0r my MBA..S0 G00D LUCK.. I REGRET GETTING A BACHEL0R IN HIM..

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

55 months ago

kateva27@yahoo.com in Opa Locka, Florida said: I totally agree. I've graduated in 2009,with a 4.0 GPA, I have the NCICS certification and i still have no luck finding a job. This really sucks and I think these schools are scamming us to get money, I have no work and I'm $12,000 in debt with student loans...this really sucks and I feel it isnt fair at all. We will have the years of training if someone just gives us a chance to enhance our skills..I am so Discouraged I don't know what else to do.

your first problem is that certification. i have been doing this for awhile and have never heard of it, so you can bet most employers haven't heard of it either. if possible get a certification from AHIMA or AAPC which are nationally recognized. if in doubt search job ads in your area and see which certs are most required.

second, sometimes you have to start at the bottom and work up, try getting a job in medical records or billing or even medical data entry, that is how i got my start and was able to leverage it into a coding job. you have to realize that the coding field is flooded with people just like you, you have to set yourself apart.

i know that schools are misleading people to get them into their programs, but some responsibility falls on you.....take charge of your situation.

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kateva27@yahoo.com in Opa Locka, Florida

55 months ago

Thank you for the information, but I have tried to take other certifications, but I was told that I have to work in the field before I can take those tests. I'm not giving up because I have paid too much to begin.

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

55 months ago

you do not need experience to sit for the CPC, you would be an apprentice until you get the necessary experience, but at least it is a recognizable cert.

i have am a CPC and i am thoroughly happy with both it and the AAPC (i actually prefer it to AHIMA who, in my opinion is a little antiquated). i have never had any problems with people wanting AHIMA over it.

i admire your fortitude, and if you can hang in there, it will definitely be worth it, it is a great field!

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kateva27@yahoo.com in Opa Locka, Florida

55 months ago

So tell me something, I'm just a liitle curious. The school I went to told me I had to take the NCICS(National Certified Insurance Coding Specialist) through the NCCT(National Center for Competency Testing. Why would they have me pay for a certification that I don't need and I pay to renew it every year..I'm so clueless

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

55 months ago

i don't know for sure, maybe the school has some sort of arrangement with the NCICS, maybe the school is new to the coding program and certs or maybe it is a completely legitimate, but new organization that in 5 years will be recognized, but for now, they are not and you will have trouble finding a job with it.

i know that the school i went to pushed the AHIMA CCA, which is a completely useless certification, why? not sure, but i was naive and trusted that the school. i ended up not sitting for it and i am glad cuz it is a waste of money.

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kateva27@yahoo.com in Opa Locka, Florida

55 months ago

Thamks alot. Maybe I'm naive too but I'm not sure check it out I have a license # and all. ncctinc.com but thanks for the info

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kacey townsend in Florida

55 months ago

i have the same certification and it is legitimate

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

55 months ago

kacey townsend in Florida said: i have the same certification and it is legitimate

sorry, i didn't really mean to say they are not legit, i know they are, but rather they are unrecognized, but that might all change in a couple of years.

have you had trouble with getting a job or people not recognizing your cert?

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kacey townsend in Florida

55 months ago

yes but i got my job with the company i did my intern with but many jobs won't hire you if you don't have experience even if you do have a certification.Actual on the job training over looks the skills you accomplished in school. for the most part i was lucky

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Lisa in Dayton, Ohio

55 months ago

valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah said: your first problem is that certification. i have been doing this for awhile and have never heard of it, so you can bet most employers haven't heard of it either. if possible get a certification from AHIMA or AAPC which are nationally recognized. if in doubt search job ads in your area and see which certs are most required.

second, sometimes you have to start at the bottom and work up, try getting a job in medical records or billing or even medical data entry, that is how i got my start and was able to leverage it into a coding job. you have to realize that the coding field is flooded with people just like you, you have to set yourself apart.

i know that schools are misleading people to get them into their programs, but some responsibility falls on you.....take charge of your situation.

Yeah and we are freaking mind readers! They promise us the moon and they fail to deliver! I am a very smart person but since I have no experience they won't hire me..

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Lisa in Dayton, Ohio

55 months ago

chit in San Diego, California said: Keep trying, send your resume to big hospital clinics but meantime get any related job in the medical billing or medical clerk so that you can network. Do not just sit there and cry.

chit

Chit,
How can you when they wont even hire you for a damn receptionist? They want like 2 years experience and we just got out of school? I even tried to get a file clerk job, nope they went with someone else! Bull~!

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Lisa in Dayton, Ohio

55 months ago

Karen Brown 08 in Wiggins, Mississippi said: Hi Samantha,
Well i still haven't been fortunate enough to find anything yet. At this particular time i'm working as a security officer making $8.00 an hour (yea $8.00 bucks). The bills continued to pile up so i had to do something. I am so pissed off with all the drama behind me not being able to find anything in my field or atleast pretty near it..............More and more i am regretting even going back to school. But then again that's a thought that goes through my mind atleast 4 maybe 5 times a day. I'm not giving up though i have gone through too much to stop now! I really want you to know that it does get HARD but HANG IN THERE! And HAVE FAITH!

At least you have something! I am still looking for a job and I graduated in Feb of this year! At this point 8.00 seems like heaven to me!

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Lisa in Dayton, Ohio

55 months ago

I have a damn NR-CCS no one will even acknowledge this certification! I can't believe I wasted my time and my money!

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db in Kansas City, Kansas

54 months ago

Lisa in Dayton, Ohio said: Like I said and a friend of mine said on here, God don't pay my bills. I have to have a job. I don't put my hope in a false god!

So...I bet you put your faith in yourself, huh? How's THAT working out for you?

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Lisa in Dayton, Ohio

54 months ago

db in Kansas City, Kansas said: So...I bet you put your faith in yourself, huh? How's THAT working out for you?

I have put my faith in myself but with the economy the way it is we are all out of luck with jobs. And NO I don't believe in a
false god with empty promises.

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LaTyisha in Camden, New Jersey

53 months ago

Well I am in the same boat. I have been certified since Sept. 2009. I've been trying to get my foot in the door; but no luck.

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

53 months ago

LaTyisha in Camden, New Jersey said: Well I am in the same boat. I have been certified since Sept. 2009. I've been trying to get my foot in the door; but no luck.

I am sure you have heard this before, but the coding field is over saturated with new graduates with no experience. Your best bet is to try and get in somewhere else in the field, such as medical records, front desk, data entry or billing. Gain experience of the medical field and ICD 9 knowledge, then leverage it into a coding job.

At least that way, you won't forget all of your training.

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3 in Marysville, Washington

52 months ago

kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi said: I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

Hi:
I'm in washington State. soon to graduate in December from my medical coding program. Is it really hard to find work for new grads? I have 28 years as a nurse in the medical field along with a degree in legal studies. I'm really concerned about finding a job. Maim Temporay agencies state it's not what you know but who you know to get a job in this field. He also stated that it is hard to get your feet in the door in this field.

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

52 months ago

3 in Marysville, Washington said: Hi:
I'm in washington State. soon to graduate in December from my medical coding program. Is it really hard to find work for new grads? I have 28 years as a nurse in the medical field along with a degree in legal studies. I'm really concerned about finding a job. Maim Temporay agencies state it's not what you know but who you know to get a job in this field. He also stated that it is hard to get your feet in the door in this field.

Please see my reply above your post. This is one of the only ways to break into coding. Your years as a nurse will help, but most employers want coding experience.

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

52 months ago

Business Resume Writing in Boston, Massachusetts said: KBrown,

Coding and billing associates are in demand right now. (even with no exp) Something must not be right with your resume if you are not able to get interviews, perhaps you have too much of your old / unrelated experience on there?

Send your resume to FreeResumeAnalysis@BusinessResumeWriting.com and one of our senior business resume writers will get back to you with some suggestions and general feedback.

Good Luck.

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Please do not put down people in order to promote your own business. And you could not be more wrong, clearly you know nothing about this field, it is very hard for a new graduate with no experience to get a coding job.

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Joy in Alachua, Florida

50 months ago

valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah said: Please do not put down people in order to promote your own business. And you could not be more wrong, clearly you know nothing about this field, it is very hard for a new graduate with no experience to get a coding job.

I agree with you,I have about four different formats of resumes from different resume companies, but do not have a coding/billing job yet!! I graduated in August 2010 and have my CCA; graduated from an AHIMA approved program. The sad truth is that you need that RHIT. I went to the FAHIMA convention in July here in Florida. What I kept hearing from experienced coders, "You need to get your RHIT."

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valentine in Salt Lake City, Utah

50 months ago

Joy in Alachua, Florida said: I agree with you,I have about four different formats of resumes from different resume companies, but do not have a coding/billing job yet!! I graduated in August 2010 and have my CCA; graduated from an AHIMA approved program. The sad truth is that you need that RHIT. I went to the FAHIMA convention in July here in Florida. What I kept hearing from experienced coders, "You need to get your RHIT."

yes and no, new RHIT grads run into the same problem if they don't have experience, so just having a RHIT alone won't suddenly give you a job. But in the long run, a RHIT will probably be good as most hospitals prefer to hire RHITs to do the inpatient coding, but if you decide to do that, just be aware if you still don't have experience, you will still struggle to find a job.

Have you tried looking for more entry level HIM jobs like in medical records, billing, data entry or front desk? It would give you experience and then you could leverage for a coding job.

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Britney in Barrington, Illinois

50 months ago

i just completed my course in coding taking the CCA exam. I cant find a job..not even a receptionist!

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Mindy in Oakland, California

50 months ago

I feel you-- so many people are hurting right now. Another way to get your foot in the door is to shadow or volunteer as an intern for a bit so you learn by watching, get a feel of the office environment, and the other staff and supervisors get to know and even LIKE you. If you prove yourself useful while working for free, you have more leverage when asking for an entry position. This is what I did, and now I work when looking into dentistry, and now I recruit teachers to go abroad for Pencils-up.com

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Joy in Alachua, Florida

50 months ago

Yes, of course, this is a small town,Alachua,but the college is in a university town, Gainesville, and normally the biggest employers are fast food restaurant and bars.

And, of course, I will continue to seek employment in other areas, it would be nice to find employment in the coding field, especially after a year of burning the midnight oil especially on weekends!

Everyday, I scan employment sites, Department of Labor and Statistics website, the AHIMA Journal, "For the Record", et cetera for new ideas and new venues to incorporate medical coding/billing. I am bound to get a job in the field by the time I am 100 years old!

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Melinda F in New Iberia, Louisiana

50 months ago

Can someone tell me the best way to break into this career? I just finished my classes, but not certified yet. I was told its better to work awhile before sitting for the certification exam. When I look for a job, they all want experience......how do you get your first chance? Please help

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valentine in West Jordan, Utah

50 months ago

Melinda F in New Iberia, Louisiana said: Can someone tell me the best way to break into this career? I just finished my classes, but not certified yet. I was told its better to work awhile before sitting for the certification exam. When I look for a job, they all want experience......how do you get your first chance? Please help

The chances of getting a coding job right out of school is pretty slim,(The schools just don't teach enough for new grads to be competent coders) your best bet is to try to get a job elsewhere in HIM, such as front desk, medical records, data entry or billing. Gain medical experience, become more familiar with ICD 9, CPT and reimbursement and then leverage your experience for a coding job.

When I started coding 6 years ago (long before the recession and high unemployment) I had to do the very same thing, I started at the front desk and have worked my way up.

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stressed out in San Antonio, Texas

49 months ago

I have taken a couple of online courses through AHIMA and am hearing that medical record coding jobs are on the decline: is this true? I am wondering if I am wasting my time doing this. I was thinking about doing this self employed if I can get work from various hospitals and providers. I have over 10 years experience including being a unit secretary and ER registration; would this help me land a job in medical record coding? I know I would like this kind of work but want to know that I am going to be marketable. Also, I want to know if anyone has heard if things are going to change dramatically if Obamacare goes into effect? Thank you for your feedback.

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TAL in Rockford, Illinois

47 months ago

student in Fairborn, Ohio said:

I disagree. They don't always hire within. I have been a medical transcriptionist working from home the past 14 years. I specifically talked to the supervisor in the coding department for the health system I work for recently. I asked if I completed a coding program if I could transfer over and work in their department(they have openings) and she said no. They do not hire new grads.

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juju in Rockford, Illinois

43 months ago

kbrown1815@bellsouth.net in Wiggins, Mississippi said: I am a Certified Medical billing and Coding Specialist, I graduated June 2008 with a 4.0 GPA as well as perfect attendance and "I CAN'T FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SKILLS TO WORK"!!!! Everyone wants you to have the 2 or more years experience. But how am i suppose to get that with no one giving me A CHANCE?????????

Go to the AAPC website and find an externship. They will give you a 3 month training period. You will then get job placement. Problem is there are very few, so you may have to relocate.

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kshepkey59 in Middleburg, Florida

39 months ago

Joy in Alachua, Florida said: Yes, of course, this is a small town,Alachua,but the college is in a university town, Gainesville, and normally the biggest employers are fast food restaurant and bars.

And, of course, I will continue to seek employment in other areas, it would be nice to find employment in the coding field, especially after a year of burning the midnight oil especially on weekends!

Everyday, I scan employment sites, Department of Labor and Statistics website, the AHIMA Journal, "For the Record", et cetera for new ideas and new venues to incorporate medical coding/billing. I am bound to get a job in the field by the time I am 100 years old!

I'm a student in Orange Park. Not even Shands?

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job seeker in San Francisco, California

39 months ago

Has anyone ever heard of GATLIN EDUCATION SERVICES (aka ed2go). I have heard that this online educational services program offers allied health training/certification prep. My question is: Has anyone ever completed one of their TRAINING PROGRAMS like BILLING AND CODING and your experiences in job prospects???

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Ms. DEE in Memphis, Tennessee

29 months ago

[QUOTE whoms="Lisa in Dayton, Ohio"]Like I said and a friend of mine said on here, God don't pay my bills. I have to have a job. I don't put my hope in a false god!

This is one of the main reason's you can't find one! Now that you have tried it your way! Now put your trust in GOD & I know he will see you threw!!! I am a shame for you!!! You will be surprise how many times GOD has made a way & PAID your BILL"S!!!

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