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Ryan Rowe in Seattle, Washington

100 months ago

What I found is most people don't care about Certs except Government agency or School Districts. I would go through a Help Desk NOC position and get some experience there as IT COWBOY suggested

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Understood in Gary, Indiana

99 months ago

Companies do care about certs! Where have you been?

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papacamp in Etobicoke, Ontario

99 months ago

Here is my beef with the whole cert thing and employers. How can an employer justify hiring anyone with a cert when before you go write your cert, you are required to have a set number of hours before you write-meaning HANDS ON WORK! So for me to go write, Don't I need the job first? Oh! and all the school in the world won't matter for you have to be able to apply your knowledge when you do get a job , seems a little backwards to me. Maybe Employers should actually start apprenticeship programs so you have to have a set number of hours as well as go to school like all other ticked trades.This way your starting at ground level in the career of choice without some over rated certification. It seems like a money making scam set by government. I was just curious if there are any employers who care to reply, that would be greatly appreciated!

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papacamp in Etobicoke, Ontario

99 months ago

Here is my beef with the whole cert thing and employers. How can an employer justify hiring anyone with a cert when before you go write your cert, you are required to have a set number of hours before you write-meaning HANDS ON WORK! So for me to go write, Don't I need the job first? Oh! and all the school in the world won't matter for you have to be able to apply your knowledge when you do get a job , seems a little backwards to me. Maybe Employers should actually start apprenticeship programs so you have to have a set number of hours as well as go to school like all other ticketed trades.This way your starting at ground level in the career of choice without some over rated certification. It seems like a money making scam set by government. I was just curious if there are any employers who care to reply, that would be greatly appreciated!

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Ben in Sontag, Mississippi

98 months ago

Well the only thing i dont understand is if your looking for experience in the company and i dont have any how can i get experience if you wont hire me

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papacamp in Toronto, Ontario

97 months ago

here is another thing I have with the United States comtia crap their tests are geared to make you fail. When you get a question wrong, it will generate more questions in that area- reason so they can get more frickin money out of ya . The funny thing is all the environmental crap on the exams, are for the bloody USA LAWS get with the program it is all a scam. As I see no cowardly employers can answer my question. Maybe it is time for Canada! to pull it's head from the stinky dark whole.

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Samatic in Fort Myers, Florida

89 months ago

I was in your same position and I have an answer for you. "What does it take to get an Administrator job !!?? " LUCK!
First you have to find a company where the old network administrator is retiring or planning to leave the company. Thats if the company itself is large enough to put someone in charge of their IT department. Most small businesses these days rely upon what are called ITP's or Information Technology Providers. These are small firms that handle multiple companies in their local area's IT department so the employer dosn't have to pay someone full time to handle their IT.

Here's the down side to this whole industry these ITP firms will hire people who want to break into the industry just like you but they pay them next to nothing. They will usually have one or two guys they pay well to keep the ITP afloat and use the "newbies" as gofers or low level administration. So really only 2 guys are doing the real hands on work and everyone else is mainly working help desk.

Now even if you do land that IT job don't trust the sites like this one saying your going to start making 75k a year because your not. Specially here in Florida where for some reason the salary just plain sucks!. Hope this gives you some in site. Now go drive a truck and start making 50k a year cause that's going to take you probably 10 years staying with one company with you being their IT admin in this great state of Florida.

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Bubba in Appleton, Wisconsin

51 months ago

IT DUDE in Lake Worth, Florida said: I agree, Florida does suck and finding a job in IT is very difficult. I just landed my first real full time job at a company and I love it. The work that is, the pay is mediocre but the benefits are great. I was making the same $ working security, but I hated that job. Right now, Im a sponge soaking up as much experience as possible and learning as much as possible. The company has great potential for growth, but I'm not going to wait around forever to get ahead. When life tells you no, take it by the balls and tell it yes.

I'm currently in help desk (and have been for 4 years) and already have an Associate degree in Network Specialist. How do I learn what I can? Am I supposed to go up to the "elders" and ask them if they can show me how things work? Because I don't believe they will. These guys (System Engineers) have more than several years of experience with a Bach degree. They seem rather hesitant to help me learn. If they think I'm looking to take their job, then they should think again, because I could very well leave the company. So, they can keep it if they want. I'm just trying to throw my leg into the door, and I don't care how much it hurts. I do know a little bit, but not nearly enough that I probably need to. I'm willing to pay my dues if they just give me the chance.

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DIFF in Los Angeles, California

46 months ago

IT COWBOY said: Yes It matters. As a Sr. Network Engineer I look for some sort of Experience with routers and switches. You have what I would say is a starting point, but currently our economy doesn't really provide companies with budgets to give you the needed on the job training. In selecting boot camps look for ones that allow you the hands on training you need. Look at design and architecture classes for the network. Also Linux skills would help you break into the network Administrator job. Remember most all of us started in the help desk at some point. Often time you might qualify for a NOC help-desk /administrator

I started my IT career almost 10 years ago and I have no certifications what so ever. I've found (and I've lived in several states) that what gets you the IT job is actually knowing how to implement, troubleshoot and work your way around systems; being able to demonstrate it instead of just pointing to a cert or college degree. Company X will hire you if you have the right mind for problem solving. One way to approach it is to get familiar with the most general use cases you might encounter in the industry you're thinking of going into. If that's too much work then really?... Truthfully? Here's my two cents: You're already qualified to be Helpdesk, which depending on the size of the company you might as well be called Sys Admin. My suggestion to op is to shoot at entry level positions like Helpdesk and get more experience on practical real world applications of the technologies he/she already knows how to use. It'll get you in the industry, at the very least. Work hard and you could make it to Network Engineer in two years.

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ITFlex in Saint Francisville, Louisiana

2 months ago

I am currently a Help desk/IT Tech Support in a Hospital. I was lucky to land this job. I do not have any certs yet. I am working on my A+ now. My Departments head Admin hired me because they liked my resume and experience. I have been in Telecom for 10+ years. I have experience in Sat Comm, ATT wire tech, Cable and HSI, and even Cell Tower tech. It was very easy for me to transition into IT bc of that. Now almost 2 years later, I have had tons and tons experience in servers, switches, and loads of software and hardware. IMO and coming from our Admin, all the certs and school means jack compared to hands on real life experience. You almost have to fall into the position or just be in right place at the right time. Either way, keep trying, get your certs, try to get all the hands on you can. Heck stop looking for an Admin job and just take a help desk or low level IT job, then you will have some work related experience to put on a resume. Good luck

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