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I recently worked a strike for this company in SF last month. Had I known what then what I know now I would never have even considered this venture.

I would encourage any self respecting RN to investigate this company before signing on with them. Then I would discourage you from working for them.

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That's strange you felt that way. I worked the Sutter strike with HealthSource and felt very good about the way they treated us. Some of the nurse thought we were supposed to get paid for time driving to the hospital and put it on their timesheet, but no agency or hospitals pays for this. Also, I met the president and she isn't related to Gary Fanger, so I am not sure what you're talking about. I'm definitely traveling again with HealthSource!

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I would agree it was a dubious experence for me also. Some nurses's checks initially bounced from this last 10 day strike.The staff of the registry(not all but some) were how can I say politly shady,rude.... Shirley she is obviously very uneducated and lacking manners I spoke to a nurse to whom she actually pointed in her face and took her off the bus for a good dressing down for eating on the bus!! The nurse seemed like a pretty refined lady an ER nurse she was pretty horrified she been munching a power bar she was a night nurse returning to the hotel when she was ordered off the bus by Shirley equipped with a walkie talkie calling in that there was a vacancy on the bus that the nurse was getting off the nurse was so embarrassed .LOL!!! what a vulgar creature Shirley is with her manly stomach paunch and leathery skin(qick stat moisturizer!)posturing like the uneducated bufoon that she is . Healthsource needs to terminate her .LOL!! LOL!!

you know Faststaff is the way to go they are professional. No slimy Shirleys they wouldn't tolerate thta.

I agree with the nurse that commented about Faststaff one nurse I know who worked with Healthsource almost got left @ the Ontario airport she was boarding her flight to San Fransisco and when they scanned her ticket as she was boarding her flight it buzzed they actually cancelled it without telling her as they were overstaffed.Se is an L&D nurse and if she hadnt called her friends already there and they hadn't given her the cell number of Tanner (a great guy that works @ healthsource) she wouldn't have been able to work. I worked the first 2 srikes in SF but wouldn't do it again I agree with the nurse about Shirley she was rude . I am a professional I don't need to be spoken to in the demeaning manner she used. Try Aces Or Faststaff.

I laughed over the "Shirley" comment as I have encountered her twice now...A friend and I both went to the Sutter Strike, told they had "overbooked" labor and del.nurses as many more striking RN's than were expected crossed the picket line...They were overbooked at the Cathedral Hill motel, so Shirley got us a room across the street at another motel, WHICH turns out to have NO heat...The next morning, Lance, the owner, told three of us that there wouldn't be any spots for us, but we would be paid the $2800 for coming and they sent us home... We both called several times the day before to confirm that w e were supposed to fly and were told that we were. Well, we have not been paid, have called many times to Healthsource with no response...
We found the staff to be quite rude also and this was our second strike with them...Shirley was quite different... We are not finished with Healthsource as to getting paid, definitely finished with them as far as another assignment.

I think you should call CPMC in San Fransisco and ask to speak to the CNO(chief nursing officer)she is a nice lady and tell her what happened to you. I worked the first strike in SF and then went to Faststaff. I really liked the hospital(CPMC) but not Healthsource they were rude and unproffesional. I met Shirley also and I must say the description of her made me laugh but it is true. She was just odd. Rude and very strange behaving I felt. I think that Healthsource made such a great hospital look bad they should be careful who they have reprsenting them.

Thank you for your help...I will call CPMC...Lance, who I was told is the "big cheese" of Healthsource, told us that we would be paid, now we can't even get anyone to return a call...We have better things to do with our time than fly to San Francisco only to have to stay in a sleezy motel and then fly back home the next day...Evidentally, they have more nurses than they will ever need to treat two very experienced labor and delivery nurses like they treated us..We will work more strikes, but not with Healthsource...And, Shirley is just plain strange...Thanks again...

You should definatly speak to the CNO of California Pacific Hospital in San Fransisco call area code (415)600-6000 and ask to speak to Carol Kunita the CNO extension-3341 I believe this may be one of the only ways to get your money back. Shame on Healthsource for stealing from hardworking nurses.Also call the San Fransisco District attorneys office as they have dishonored their contract.

WOW. All these comments are so telling aren't they? I worked all 3 strikes with Healthsource @ CPMC(the last experence being the most telling as the other two were brief two day strikes so everything was quick without long exposure to the make-up of Healthsource) and although the hospital was great, Healthsource was terrible. I fully agree Shirley was awful,my friends and I(we are charge nurses in our hospital)also found Marylyn(an older woman in glasses)very high handed and rude during the processing of our files,(and also later in day to day interactions) we were shocked when we were told she was the DON of Healthsouce!She never introduced herself as such(or @ all) we just imagined that she was a surly badly behaved temporary clerk.(the true temp. clerks wee actually quite nice) If we as professinals spoke like that to anyone we wouldn't have jobs and definatly we would loose the respect of our fellow nurses something we greatly value. I once read a wonderful sign while having tea with my mother(a refined and lovely lady)I believe it was @ the Ritz Carlton in SF it said "we are ladies and gentlemen serving ladies and gentlemen" how appropo . I have always tried to conduct myself as such. I don't believe that you can teach these two women(you notice I don't say ladies)what their parents quite obviously failed to do.They should both be terminated.But the whole registry should be removed from dealings with such a fine hospital as CPMC. I am sure they would be horrified to know of the seedy happenings @ Healthsource. Why would a hospital chain of such high repute associate with such seedy going ons I cannot imagine.

Glad to get all the info on Healthsource . I am an L&D nurse and a pretty serious person I worked all 3 strikes with Healthsource they were scandalous!!!!!I just tried to stay clear of their shady staff. I think the descriptions of them were comical but pretty right on mark.Thank God my check cleared.Its pretty tough for nurses our jobs are hard enough without this drama. A couple of nurses (one had her jewelry stolen from the hotel and she wasnt the only one!)another stood up to Healthsource bullys(both were good nurses I worked with one of them for the 3 or 4 days she was there) both just disappeared other nurses told me the registry sent them home! I need to work for a professional registry for the strikes are Fast Staff and Aces really that? I can't wait to get home to New Orleans in the south we know better.

You are fortunate that you checks cleared from what I am hearing.. I hope that nurses considerning strike assignments will think twice about Healthsource..And yes, as funny as the descriptions were of the shady staff, they were all extremely accurate. Does anyone know Lance's last name? I haven't came right out and asked for it thru Healthsource, but I can't get past the person that answers the phone...Funny how Lance or any other "administration" people are never avaliable....We were never paid for out little trip to San Francisco and we are not going to let that go....

No I don't know Lance's last name but I agree with the others you should call the hospital and speak to the director of nurses even better call Sutter(they own CPMC and the other hospitals that went out on strike) and speak to their CEO or COO and tell them what happened to you they should be directed to this site. Isn't it funny that it was started by Healthsource as a way to get nurses and now nurses are taking it over to tell the truth!!! Those employees were sure thugish behaving . I really agree with all that was said about Marylyn and Shirley. Is Marylyn really the director of nursing for Healthsource if she is a nurse then I am ashamed to have her in our ranks.As for Shirley I really was perplexed by her role there she was to quote another nurse whose entry I read on this site just really wierd and odd.She was the most thuggish I saw her really going @ it with some of the nurses yelling right in their faces I just haven't been exposed to people like that I just tried to stay away from them I literally cringed when I would see her yelling and carrying on getting nurses on the buses. I have worked many strikes in the past(only the 3 Sutter strikes with Healthsource) and these Sutter strikes with Healthsource are the last time I would ever work with them this last ten day strike really showed me who they were. I wish you luck in getting the money owed to you. Scary folks I'll say.

No I don't know Lance's last name but I agree with the others you should call the hospital and speak to the director of nurses even better call Sutter(they own CPMC and the other hospitals that went out on strike) and speak to their CEO or COO and tell them what happened to you they should be directed to this site. Isn't it funny that it was started by Healthsource as a way to get nurses and now nurses are taking it over to tell the truth!!! Those employees were sure thugish behaving . I really agree with all that was said about Marylyn and Shirley. Is Marylyn really the director of nursing for Healthsource if she is a nurse then I am ashamed to have her in our ranks.As for Shirley I really was perplexed by her role there she was to quote another nurse whose entry I read on this site just really wierd and odd.She was the most thuggish I saw her really going @ it with some of the nurses yelling right in their faces I just haven't been exposed to people like that I just tried to stay away from them I literally cringed when I would see her yelling and carrying on getting nurses on the buses. I have worked many strikes in the past(only the 3 Sutter strikes with Healthsource) and these Sutter strikes with Healthsource are the last time I would ever work with them this last ten day strike really showed me who they were. I wish you luck in getting the money owed to you. Scary folks I'll say.

Thanks for the info....No, we have not been paid...The fact that Lance is a Fanger explains alot....I will post what that outcome is of my conversation with the Sutter...I think that they should know (if they alrady don't already) how they treat the nurses that they recruit...I hope that other nurses considering working for them remember that this could happen to them!! Yes, it is so interesting that this little webposting site was started to recruit nurses for Healthsource and now it is being used to expose them for the crooked individuals that they are... Regarding "the Shirley", I would love to know what her exact title is...I could think of a few that would fit...I think she needs to try the wild west, maybe rounding up some cattle...Obviously, she has NO degrees behind her name or she would realize that we are all professionals and we really don't need to be screamed at to obey orders...Better yet, maybe some branch of the military would accept her as a drill seargant!!! Thanks so much for the replies.....

I just found this forum after seeing someone post it on mobilern.com (scab.org). And have found some more interesting info on the hsg ongoing story. I had an issue with something that happened to me personally when i worked the last strike with them but i was apoligized to by lance and he took care of things. my big concern though ended up being the major difference amongst the accomodations at the the different strike sites. some of the nurses had awesome hotels with great food provided others had an absolutely horrible hotel with not great food. It was like you were lucky to be in one city but not the other. Why would you treat 1/2 the nurses great and the other 1/2 horrible? Why would you not have any consistency? I will say that the whole "checking in" process was terribly annoying and time consuming but atleast i had my 3 files in the exact order of the list they had on the website so it wasnt as bad as others. But i noticed the unprofessionalism of many of the people checking you in and i found that odd. I just tried to get out of those peoples faces as fast as i could and stayed away and that seems to be the best. All of the other people i was around the rest of the time were wonderful. I was paid ontime and my checks cleared. Yet I have a friend who had her 1st check bounce and was still waiting for the 2nd check....she got both of them cleared by the bank just last week! Thats crazy and scary. I would travel with them again as long as i wasnt put in the nasty hotel. Otherwise I dont have enough experience yet with them to say much more otherwise.

show me the money in Birmingham, Alabama said: I just found this forum after seeing someone post it on mobilern.com (scab.org). And have found some more interesting info on the hsg ongoing story. I had an issue with something that happened to me personally when i worked the last strike with them but i was apoligized to by lance and he took care of things. my big concern though ended up being the major difference amongst the accomodations at the the different strike sites. some of the nurses had awesome hotels with great food provided others had an absolutely horrible hotel with not great food. It was like you were lucky to be in one city but not the other. Why would you treat 1/2 the nurses great and the other 1/2 horrible? Why would you not have any consistency? I will say that the whole "checking in" process was terribly annoying and time consuming but atleast i had my 3 files in the exact order of the list they had on the website so it wasnt as bad as others. But i noticed the unprofessionalism of many of the people checking you in and i found that odd. I just tried to get out of those peoples faces as fast as i could and stayed away and that seems to be the best. All of the other people i was around the rest of the time were wonderful. I was paid ontime and my checks cleared. Yet I have a friend who had her 1st check bounce and was still waiting for the 2nd check....she got both of them cleared by the bank just last week! Thats crazy and scary. I would travel with them again as long as i wasnt put in the nasty hotel. Otherwise I dont have enough experience yet with them to say much more otherwise.

That's just the problem...This was not our first strike with Healthsource...The first strike was Ok, that is why we trusted them to do it again...It was a totally different experience in San Francisco, so don't assume that it will always be a good experience...My friend and I plan on working other strikes, but not with this company...

To answer the question from ohio nurse Healthsource only staffed for the in city San Fransisco strike(@ CPMC),so different treatment was because different agencies were staffng the other Sutter hospitals.OH!! I didn't know Lance was a FANGER!!! So thats whats going on.Like father like son.Why dosen't the San Fransisco DA look into how these dubious folks do buisness? They cold called me to work the first Sutter strike @CPMC. How did they get my number?I live in Los Angeles,I never lived in San Fransisco. One of my friends kept getting told off by Shirley who told her it wasn't personal but some guy Abe (that worked for the hospital, was always by the hospital vans, wore a suit,30s dark hair,he seemed like a nice guy )was giving lists of nurses names to the registry that he didnt like based on non clinical issues.(wow if thats true and the CPMC nurses have a non nursing person like Abe disrespecting and harassing them no wonder they went on strike respect is so important in any job ) I don't really believe that I think those were the nurses who stood up for themselves and ticked Healthsource off. One nurse told me not to say anything in the vans (about being unhappy with the registry...) when Jaime drove as he was their #1 thug(I guess he ties with Shirley) and that she and her friends were driven to church on Easter Sunday(they are night nurses) by Jaime and a couple of them said they were very unhappy with Shirley and Maralyn and Jaime encouraged them to verbalize their concerns and they said they know for a fact Jaime reported back to them as Shirley went after them with such gusto and even quoted some of the things they had said to Jamie and they knew by that point 2 nurses who were sent home they just finished their 10 days and kept their heads down so to speak.

Wow, the truth is really coming out about Healthsource!! Maybe the DA should hear of some of this....The guy that drove us around was just plain crazy..His name was Roomy (sp) and he was from Peru...Scary thing is, he told us that he worked for Healthsource in collections...He drove like a total maniac...He was nice enough, but scary...Just another funny thing about that company...

Hmmm. Intresting. Does anyone know any of the nurse that were sent home for non clinical issues? I am trying to reach one of the L&D nurses that was sent home the 4 or so day her issue was definatly Healthsource generated I know I worked with her she was a good L&D nurse all her pts and the doctors really seemed to like her I e mailed her but haven't heard from her I don't want to post her name but I would loke to get in touch with her I am wondering if I copied her e mail correctly. If anyone knows her I would rally like to get in touch with her.

Very intresting. Jamie was from South America too. Was this driver older with white hair because he told all of us that he worked in collections for CPMC too. They were very dubious looking people. I wonder how they collect their money? SCARY SCARY people. Good thing this blog dosent list names or we might have to move and change our names.that first nurse's entry said that Healthsource has felons and criminals working for them. Do you think they are all parolees?

Our scary driver said that he worked in collections for Healthsource...Yes, this driver was older with white hair, very nice and polite, just a maniac when driving.... Who knows if they are all parolees...They certainly do have quite the cast of characters working for them, complete with thugs!!

Pls let us all know if you get your money. Do you have a copy of the contract or e mail promising you the 2800. dallars? We all have that same contract. You should take them to court.have you spoken to Sutter yet. ?

I met Jamie said he was in collections for Healthsource not CPMC!

Yes, we do have the contract...I left a voicemail with the CNO at UPMC but she has not yet returned my call. I will let you know if we get anything..Thanks so much for your input...

I dont think you are going to hear from her. I think you should call the CEO of Sutter . You are not alone quite a few of their(Healthsource) employees have not been paid. This is nothing new to these people(Healthsource).You will only get your money if Sutter their contractor on whose behalf you flew to San Fransisco puts them in check otherwise , they are not going to pay you, unless you take them to court. The number to Sutters headquarters is in Sacramento california I'm not sure who the CEO is but if I were you I would call and find out and tell them what happened to you the number is( 916)733-8800 I don't think the CNO of CPMC has much pull @ all but the CEO of Sutter Health does and should know exactly what and who they are dealing with,meaning the thugs from Healthsource.

I wish I knew all this prior to working with Healthsource. I'm so lucky I got paid but I has a terrible time with Healthsource and concur with the opinions of their staff. AWFUL!!!!! My husband says we don't need money that badly. I have never been treated so terribly .It took me a good week to emotionally recover from dealing with those as you all say thuggish behaving people. I think they were very uneducated and unhappy people but obviously it was so much more I see after googling the FANGER family. I'm so glad I didn't know the extent of it while I was working with them I would have been so nervous and scared.

Thank you so much. for the phone number for Sutter. I will call them today and let you know what happens :)

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Speaking of referral bonuses, that also happened to us, we never got them. I don't understand how this company gets away with all that it has...How is that??
I will never work for them again, but I intend for someone to hear about what they did to us...The Fangers sound like quite the family..Thanks for the info!!

intersted in conversation in Los Angeles, California said: you know Faststaff is the way to go they are professional. No slimy Shirleys they wouldn't tolerate thta.

Fastaff have their faults to, but at least you get paid and a nice place to stay, and they don't change their name every year!!

I just received an email from healthsourcee about a strike in Michigan...I hope that everone considering working for this company remembers what happened to my friend and I...We were paid for the first strike that we worked, but not the second one...It could happen to you!!!
I called the CEO of Sutter and spoke with his assistant...She was very nice, and did say that this was not the first call that she had received....Thanks for the help...

I'm so glad hopefully you made some headway with them I understand they are a good organization. I was paid thank GOD and immeadiatly cashed my check. What low lifes they are @ Healthsource. Very unprofessional. I wonder where in Michigan the strike is that hospital should be forewarned. I will try to find that out.I am so sorry for all those that had checks that were dishonored(bounced)We work so hard for our money ,must be of strong moral character to maintain our licenses(no criminals amongst us!) but there are those that exploit and mistreat us for fiancial gain. I understand they made a windfall from the hospital too bad the hospital dosen't hire us directly and cut out the registry they have our files. I loved CPMC and would be honored to work there again but I cannot do it via those thugs @ Healthsource.

A friend just told me about this site. I also worked the ten day strke in SF with Healthsource. I felt totally the way the unhappy nurse in Los Angeles felt mentally EXHAUSTED from my dealings with Healthsource. I would NEVER work with them ever again.Where did they find these people isn't it telling that we all are complaining about the same people 1) THE SHIRLEY 2) MARYLYN(the supposed DON of Healthsource--God I hope not!!) 3) Jamie -the "debt collector" how scary were they as individuals but together what a LETHAL combo. They say an animal rots from the head down I guess the head is the dubious MR.FANGER!!The scariest thing I noted was how they changed around hospital staff became suddenly solicitous of the nurses....I don't believe for a moment that the nurses sent home for non-clinical issues were sent home by the hospital.I noted that these nurses stood up for themselves and asserted themselves over the shady goings on with Healthsource and Healthsource afraid of a mutiny of sorts got rid of them quickly and swiftly(we were all asking for them-they just disappeared-it was done to send a strong message to the other nurses- that effectivly shut us all up.)Like concerned RN by the beach I would happily work for CPMC but NOT Healthsource.

It is important that you all stand together about this situation. Class Action Suit are the three words I can come up with. I am sure there are plenty who would get on that train. Me included.

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lets wait to see what happens with Sutter.We must be very careful of who we are exchanging our info with. This could place us in danger.

Careful these are dangerous folks. Sit tight. Lets wait to hear from Youngstown.

Well, I figured Lance's email address out, wrote to him and pretty much told him what a rat I thought that he was, never returning call, etc...Amazingly, he wrote back, said that he "didn't remember" our conversation in San Francisco, so of course I gladly refreshed his memory. We'll see where it goes from here...
I have heard what a wonderful facility CPMC is, but never got the chance to work there...I find it so incredible that so many nurses had such a bad experience with Healthsource. What shady people they are, all of them...Every time I call, I now ask the person (always foreign with very poor English) how long they have worked there. The longest that I have heard is "one month"! What happens to their staff?? I wonder if they are paid what they were promised?
I told Mr. Lance Fanger that I was not going to quietly go away and I mean that. We work way too hard, rearrange our whole lives to go and work these strikes, do a good job, and earn a little extra money..Shame on them...I guess that labor and delivery nurses are a dime a dozen or they wouldn't be treating us like this...Everyone that reads this, BEWARE!!! IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU...

Good.I bet he didn't remember the conversation. I'm sure he was just appeasing you @ the time with no intention of doing the right thing. Did he say he would forward you your money post haste? L&D nurses are very hard to come by and nurses that can hit the ground running are extremly hard to come by,which is exactly what we do working strikes.Keep us updated. I hope you get your $$. Lets see what Sutter has to say. I think if Lance FANGER reads this site he will try to close it down. He should make nice lie to you pay you what you are owed saying it was overlooked and blame someone else.

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I wonder if anyone has thought to keep an updated copy of the postings? In case the fanger bunch decides to have it pulled off posting?

Oh and I have worked with them in the past when I resided in another state. Bad experience then, and I won't make that mistake again. Pay checks bounced and then were never made good. So I have had the same experience. There is a lot of information on G.Fanger also located in Colorado Bureau of prisons.

I worked for HCSS. I didn't have as bad of an experience with them. I like Lance. He was kind and if I had a problem he fixed it. I got paid. I agree check in is always chaotic. Shirley and Marilyn can be rude. I will keep all these comments in mind when selecting a strike company. See you at the next Sutter strike!

To Nolanurse consider yourself quite lucky. I wasn't talking about just a hectic check in(that my fellow nurse is par for the course) we are all experenced nurses which makes us all much more resistant to stress then the common mortal as you dear nolanurse know only too well I'm sure. As you can garner from our postings some of us haven't even been paid. Be nice not polyannaish and support nurses who were not so BLESSED as you apparently were with Healthsouce. The one thing I have always loved about nurses we support one another so kindly. We have such integrity. Just yesterday I stopped a doctor I happen to have a wonderful relationship with from going after one of my other nurses(who I didn't even know) quite meanly she was in tears by the end of their exchange. I would have NEVER thought to smugly tell her oh well he is always nice too me. SUPPORTIVE is such a good mantra to live by it is freeing try it .

a addendum to you dear nolanurse from Texas google Gary Fanger and you might see just who you have been dealing with. Best to you on the learning tract.

The colorado prison OMG! This is scary.I just googled that.YIKES!

I would love to have Lance's email address. He made me promises, that were not kept. I still haven't gotten my final (corrected) paycheck.

thank you