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A.FORBINI in Mountain View, California

7 months ago

Your post made sense for me 100%. I decided to contact you even though that post is 3+ yrs.old ☺I am curious what you have learned! Have you chosen a job that makes you happy? I hope you have. I worked on a tele floor right out of the gate. I had never worked at a hospital. Professionally the most important thing ever placed in my own hands was the trusty keys to a wine cellar at a Restaurant/Hotel, or VHS, maybe BETA rental tapes. Not once a human being. Now I got paid to bring people back to life, from the dead, or stop them from dying, save their LIFE. WOW. I loved that part..but most of the Doc's treated us horribly bad. The older ones asked us to stand when they entered the room. I was nonplused. A cardiothoracic surgeon hucked a metal chart AT me. Almost all blamed nurses for everthing from contemptable hospital-wide policies to other MD's errors. I was a nervous wreck for my entire 1st year. I wasn't happy. I think i had romanticized Nursing. I transferred. ER. After a few weeks, I felt as if I had gotten a big promotion or a PHD. I was given the Autonomy I needed, I was shown respect, and treated as an equal. I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT. I suprised myself sometimes with how confidently I started making independant,educated clincal decisions. I realized just how stifled most med/surg nurse's were, are. Floor RN's do not get utilize half of their full potential. Autonomy really can exist for a RN. I also had full autonomy in charge of a 22 bed acute co-ed adolescent unit. The ER let me use my brain, assess correctly, and implement critical thinking solutions. Not simply following orders like "Try jello for patient's snack".
I savored working side by side WITH the Docs. I have Autoimmune disease and was ILL non-stop after I was sick/diagnosed. I had to "retire" hospital nursing. Maybe by now you have found the ultimate career path for a RN. I hope you share it with me. ��

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tufernhel in Farmington, Maine

7 months ago

FindingMe in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: I would greatly appreciate some advice. I already have regrets so I am just trying to make the best of the situation I’m in now. I am 28 yrs old. Got my A.D.N in 2010 and went straight to do the RN-BSN and completed that in 2011, which I regret now, however I didn’t go into debt for it. I’ve been an RN (ICU) for 2 yrs and I absolutely hate it. I just cannot do this forever. There are not as many options as I was lead to believe. If you don’t want the bedside you are useless so therefore I need to make plans to escape. I have thought about numerous options. I like healthcare but not direct patient care. So I’ve thought about going for RHIT or RHIA, which would mean going back for a either an A.S. or B.S. in health information technology or management degree to be able to sit for those certifications. I’ve thought about becoming a certified in medical billing and coding through a short-term program. I hear coders are needed and can make salaries comparable to nurses. I’ve thought about masters in MSN, MBA, MPH, informatics and Healthcare Admin . Informatics and technology interest me a lot since I am more introverted and like healthcare and computers. However, I am very leary about running back to school for an advanced degree because there’s no guarantee in getting a job plus experience is paramount anyways so then the degree seems obsolete. I refuse to go into debt for high hopes especially when you gotta put your nose to the grindstone anyway . I’m not interested in teaching. I’ve even thought about pursing other degrees in PT, OT, SLP, rad tech, med tech, respiratory….basically anything to get away from nursing. I know I sound like I need career counseling but this whole career thing has been the biggest pain in my ass my entire life. Ultimately I would like to focus on creating multiple streams of income and investments and not depend entirely on a job to provide. Any thoughts appreciated in advance.[/QUOTE

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tufernhel in Farmington, Maine

7 months ago

I would truly like to know what you found out and what you wound up doing. Please do let me know!

I am 49 and am near the end of an accelerated BSN and I have hated it since day one, but I feel like I am too stupid, or too arrogant to quit (because, by golly, I am NOT a quitter). How stupid is that? I am depressed, but refuse to take the drugs that they push in this program. Out of a total class size of 35, there are 11 definites that I know of that are on antidepressants and anxiolytics just to "make it through" the program. Doesn't this concern anyone? Doesn't this raise any red flags? This is a college program here folks...it should not come to this. And yet there is no help (in spite of all the placated nonsense they feed you about the loads of help available, and about "caring" for each other) available. I have been asking, and asking, and asking, and either I get, "I don't know what to tell you," or absolutely a blank stare with no response. Nothing is done because it does not seem like anyone cares - as long as it does not affect them, it is fine.
At this point, I want to distance myself from nursing (even though I know a lot of "nice" people in the field, it is the entire system to get there and the environment that fosters this), I can not identify with being a nurse and have no desire to now. I hate it with a passion and I have not even begun. I want OUT!!! I NEED OUT!!! Help me please. But there is nothing else available. I know, I have asked and asked and asked. The second you admit you are in a nursing tract, they always press you to finish it (because that is supposed to be what is best?!?! REALLY?!?!)
Talk about feeling absolutely useless.

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freedisum in Mississauga, Ontario

7 months ago

tufernhel in Farmington, Maine said:

I feel your pain. I am also 28 years old and has been a Practical Nurse for 9 years now. I absolutely despise this career.

It was alright at first but then it went downhill from there and I want nothing more than to escape from this nightmare.
It's easy to say "I'll quit" but finding another job/career is too darn difficult even when you try to put every effort in, and believe me I tried that.

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Denise in Rockford, Michigan

6 months ago

There are so many jobs that you can do in nursing that don't involve bedside nursing - 1) utilization review - review charts if patients in the hospital & send clinical updates to the insurance companies. I actually do the reverse & work for a health insurance company & work from home! 2) case management - in a hospital or skilled nursing facility, you assist patients with discharge planning. 3) work as an outpatient case manager for an ins company - these jobs are usually telephonic, working from home, counseling patients about their health
These are just a few of numerous jobs out there!

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natashad123 in California, California

6 months ago

My mom is a RN and she works at home as a case manager. She prefers to work non-direct patient care. Every job has its pros and cons but she enjoys her job overall. I graduated LVN school last year and working toward my AS degree. I am not into getting my BSN since I am not interested in working in a hospital. I love direct patient care however I am interested in wellness and health. Have anyone looked into working as a wellness coach? You do not use your nursing degree but you work at home and does require you to do a lot of marketing to build a clientele.

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Sucks! in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

Once you leave bedside you give up working your 3 days a week. You then go to 4-5 days. It sucks!

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Denise in Rockford, Michigan

6 months ago

I work 4-10 hr days, Mon-Thurs. a 3-day weekend every week - no weekends, no holidays - and I work from home. I would rather work an extra day a week than do patient care again

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freedisus in Mississauga, Ontario

6 months ago

Denise in Rockford, Michigan said: I work 4-10 hr days, Mon-Thurs. a 3-day weekend every week - no weekends, no holidays - and I work from home. I would rather work an extra day a week than do patient care again

Hi, what position is that if you don't mind me asking.

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Jennifercclark in Prairie Village, Kansas

6 months ago

What are you doing now?

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natashad123 in California, California

6 months ago

freedisus in Mississauga, Ontario said: Hi, what position is that if you don't mind me asking.

Same. I would love to know too! :)

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kaye in Houston, Texas

6 months ago

I am right with you sister. I started out with an ADN and dearly loved nursing until I started understanding the full picture. Got a BSN and rec. a $0.25 pay raise. Now I have a master's degree in counseling and can't find a mentor. There is a lot of jumbled up stuff and I think we all have to wade through it. Hopefully we end up in a place where we can take orders from someone else and help them realize their dream (not ours) JK. I mean that is what happens. To be helpful, I would say dream a little: there are QA nurses, there are specialty areas in nursing, community health nursing, surveyors for hospitals and home health (that are RNs). In the end if you make a million dollars and are miserable it is not worth it. Don't give up search yourself about what you really like, do web searches, talk to people, pray about it. But don't "settle". Life is short and life is precious.

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kaye in Houston, Texas

6 months ago

I am a frustrated nurse. I love people and I love direct patient care. But have any of you thought about the liability of a nurse?If the dr writes a bad order or the pharmacy fills a script wrong, it is the nurse who is blamed. Why? Because the nurse is the one who administered it (care or med)and the nurse is the last person to stop anything. In home care the nurse is responsible if the patient falls down or goes to the hospital even if you only see them once a week or once a month. It is all the "stuff" around actual patient care that makes nursing unappealing. Orders you can't read, people (Drs) speaking and you cannot understand them. This sounds simple but it goes on and it is very deep and it is endless. A lot of hospitals and homecare are quick to blame and turn you in to the board and even if you are innocent; it feels like guilty until proven innocent (because they will put your license on hold while they investigate)And most nurses cannot afford attorney fees so you are at the mercy of the board. Seems like you are always covering your steps and having to prove your actions. Makes me want to run away yelling: "I can't help anyone". Yes, there are a lot of things I could do other than patient (hands on) care. I got into nursing to touch and care for people (hands on). I wish there was a ways for nurses to pave a way for themselves. I like rules and clear direction but Home care for instance is the most highly regulated entity in the USA next to the nuclear program. What's wrong here? Every thing can change and everything can improve; that would include nursing. Wouldn't it?

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arnwoonds4j0b in Tucson, Arizona

6 months ago

When I was a Travel Nurse a hospital I cancelled a contract because they never gave me computer training, their conputer system was not fully converted. All my assignments had at least one or two days of this training. They told my agency they were reporting me for diverted drugs by not documenting a narc (s). My agency blacklisted me.

Thankfully, I had insurance and the lawyer that was assigned to me found out what patient they were blaming me for. It was not even my patient, it was the person who precepted me patient and their Administration was run by New Grads. My laywer and I thought they were seeking out a vendetta because I cancelled the contract with them and called them "unsafe". It takes a few years for the Board to get to a complaint because there are so many. The Board had me show all my CEUs for 8 years of nursing, gave me a 5 year warning, and when I went to renew my insurance with NSO they denied me as a risk. Does not show up on my license but, I did not even make the mistake. If I did not have the insurance or lawyer I am sure things would of turned out different. I let my license expire in that state, it was my home state, and not ever going back.

You get paid more but in Travel nursing has absolutely no benefit. The majority of jobs I had their hospitals had problems. A staff person they would of investigated before contacting the Board. I have a perm job now in which it sucks sometimes with coworkers being catty. The hospital pays for my certs and time taking them, has ways you can move up, affordable benefits, and pays for my school. Eventually, I will leave bedside but I am not sure what I want to do. Going to school for something else I have posted in the past but, I like patients.

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natashad123 in California, California

6 months ago

what is the differnce between a health wellness coach and a diabetic educator?

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Denise in Rockford, Michigan

6 months ago

freedisus in Mississauga, Ontario said: Hi, what position is that if you don't mind me asking.

Hi I work as a Utilization nurse/discharge planner for a health insurance company. I review charts for patients admitted to hospitals, skilled nursing facilities and acute rehab. I also assist the facilities with discharge planning
A lot of health insurance companies hire nurses for this type of work. There's also outpatient case management where you call & talk with people about their health

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Sucks! in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

There aren't enough of those utilization review nurse positions. Majority of Rns will be stuck at the bedside, facts.

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Denise in Rockford, Michigan

6 months ago

Every hospital has utilization review, discharge planning &/or case management. If someone is burned out with bedside nursing, there are plenty of jobs out there that don't involve direct patient care....besides what is mentioned above, there's Quality Assurance, research nurses, clinical document specialists (assist with correct coding in charts to bill Medicare) - all kinds of jobs...you just have to look

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Dylan in Canonsburg, Pennsylvania

6 months ago

I am a current LPN, 24 y/o male, who realized that nursing was not a field I could stay in a few months after I got into it. I'm a close distance to finishing my associates RN but I decided not to because this is not something I can stick with. I'm constantly looking for a way out. I sell life insurance on the side but it is not enough to leave nursing. I also am working on a Bachelor's in Accounting, I still have three years left to finish that. I don't know what to do. I'm from Pittsburgh and have done travel nursing and am debating doing it again, or just moving to Arizona just for a change of scenery (in my work and personal life). I'm also afraid I'm not making the right choice with Accounting. I think it will be more tolerable than nursing but I don't want to work my life away either. I'm afraid I'll never be happy in my career. I know I'm clearly not the only one feeling this way but I'm confused on what actions I should take. It seems everyone else is too. I'm tired of being in school and I'm tired of working a job that is barely tolerable. When will the struggle and search end? I'm exhausted. I'm too young to feel like this.

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freedisus in Mississauga, Ontario

6 months ago

Dylan in Canonsburg, Pennsylvania said: I am a current LPN, 24 y/o male, who realized that nursing was not a field I could stay in a few months after I got into it. I'm a close distance to finishing my associates RN but I decided not to because this is not something I can stick with. I'm constantly looking for a way out. I sell life insurance on the side but it is not enough to leave nursing. I also am working on a Bachelor's in Accounting, I still have three years left to finish that. I don't know what to do. I'm from Pittsburgh and have done travel nursing and am debating doing it again, or just moving to Arizona just for a change of scenery (in my work and personal life). I'm also afraid I'm not making the right choice with Accounting. I think it will be more tolerable than nursing but I don't want to work my life away either. I'm afraid I'll never be happy in my career. I know I'm clearly not the only one feeling this way but I'm confused on what actions I should take. It seems everyone else is too. I'm tired of being in school and I'm tired of working a job that is barely tolerable. When will the struggle and search end? I'm exhausted. I'm too young to feel like this.

I'm in the same boat as you. 28 y/o male who just wants to quit nursing and slam the door behind never looking back.

Personally, I wanted to go into accounting but it really is up to you. Do research, the last thing you need is entering into another career you hate.

I know, easier said than done but still...We gotta keep searching.

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Dylan in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

6 months ago

freedisus in Mississauga, Ontario said: I'm in the same boat as you. 28 y/o male who just wants to quit nursing and slam the door behind never looking back.

Personally, I wanted to go into accounting but it really is up to you. Do research, the last thing you need is entering into another career you hate.

I know, easier said than done but still...We gotta keep searching.

I figure at least this will open up some new doors for me... after this round of school I'm done. I can't keep doing this. I researched for about one and a half years almost continuously before I made my decision to go back for accounting, I think most of my fear is my nerves and the fear that the same dislike will happen again. I have higher hopes for this though.

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natashad123 in California, California

6 months ago

why not try entrepreneurship guys?

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freedisus in Brampton, Ontario

6 months ago

natashad123 in California, California said: why not try entrepreneurship guys?

What entreprenuership can you do with nursing though? Unless you're an NP, I just don't see any possibilities.

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natashad123 in California, California

6 months ago

There are many things available. Question is are you willing to give it a try. You have to first change the way you think to want to pursue something outside the "traditional" route. That is first and foremost. You have a lot to offer and it may not be in the nursing field but we live in a time where we have lots of resources available than our past history.

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Sucks! in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

freedisus in Brampton, Ontario said: What entreprenuership can you do with nursing though? Unless you're an NP, I just don't see any possibilities.

Exactly, nursing is a trap. Some people get lucky but most don't and won't. Nurses will always work on those machine operated hospitals that use and abuse them because that is where the bulk of nursing jobs are. Hospitals and nursing homes employ most nurses. Customer service has me hating nursing. I love to give it but the rules are crazy mad.

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Michelle in Chicago, Illinois

6 months ago

Hi,
I wanted to announce to all nurses who are lost and facing disciplinary action by the board of nursing or government entity in their state that I have developed a PRIVATE forum and just for nurses who are facing this life changing time in their life.
I am a nurse who is in recovery. When I was disciplined by the board I felt I had nowhere to turn and I couldn't talk to anyone. I was afraid, (as I know many of you are) to converse in open forums without the fear of the prying eye of my peers and the board of nursing.
It's because of this that I have developed a completely private forum and group and anyone who is accepted must either be in recovery or facing discipline.
There is so much to learn when you are dealing with this type of crisis in your life and some nurses make poor decisions because they don't have the money for attorneys and they trust the board of nursing to help them. I want to help all of you and I know as a private group together we can be strong and even fight some of the horrendous obstacles that the board places in front of us.
Many nurses are shunned by their coworkers and their families and cave into the boards demands. Join us today! There will be no one there to judge you and I will be monitoring the group on a daily basis for anyone who appears to be insulting or abusing the members. I would like to take you all under my wing. I think the results of this group will be strong and amazing. Stop talking freely in a forum that is completely open to the public. It's a bad idea, but I understand that you have not had a choice in the past. Now you can. Come over and see for yourself. I think you'll be glad you did! In order to be a member of this group you must request membership and you may do so with this link. goo.gl/8JNmhG
We will be starting a weekly internet meeting for discussions on how to change some of the regulations that are enforced by the board of nursing. Join is to be part of this movement

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Sucks! in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

If this isnt a sign it sucks I don't know what is.

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Jennifercclark in Prairie Village, Kansas

6 months ago

AngelaBrooks said: Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
Angelabrook.com

Same here. please contact me!

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Jennifercclark in Prairie Village, Kansas

6 months ago

AngelaBrooks said: Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
Angelabrook.com

Same here. please contact me!

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jessicafwalker-careercoach in Anchorage, Alaska

6 months ago

If you want out of nursing, but want to keep using your degree, there is definitely a market in the digital nomad life for blogging nurses. I don't know what your life situation is, but you could also explore the Peace Corps. They have a huge health sector, that isn't necessarily all about nursing. They can see the flexibility of your degree and find a program that would help you redefine your own career goals, while getting to travel the world and explore new cultures.

I wish you luck.

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Tommie in Troy, Alabama

6 months ago

AngelaBrooks said: Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
Angelabrook.com

Would love some advice, been in nursing 8yr, traveled, I have done ER, ICU, Medsurg, Home Health, Hospice, LTAC, LT care, and psyche....I am ready to just quit, but don't know what to do. I am a great nurse and a strong patient and nurse advocate, but I don't feel like it matters. Almost hopeles:(

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Tommie in Troy, Alabama

6 months ago

Experience doesn't matter in Redmond, Oregon said: In the US most hospitals have unions which mean your going to get paid the same as the next nurse who is just a warm body. Gotta play the nursing politics game or get out.

Wait a minute, most hospitals do not have unions....really maybe on the west coast. Maybe in Northeast but really most not so much.

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Tommie in Troy, Alabama

6 months ago

AngelaBrooks said: Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
Angelabrook.com

Oh wow I'm sorry to hear. I have creative ways of getting jobs that require "recent experience" for seasoned nurses you should contact me. We should start a club for the burned out nurse!

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Tommie in Troy, Alabama

6 months ago

Ok let us take a deep breath and now exhale. I won't lie I felt the same way and still do. I have been a RN (ADN) for 8yr. I have traveled and worked in ER, Icu, Med Surg, Home health, hospice, psyche, long term care, and long term acute care. What I have learned it is equal opportunity angst. What I did to survive, grew a really thick crusty skin, became a really big patient advocate nurse who is aggressive with care, give no apologies except to pt and families cause after all they are going through tough time, realized I'm not dying not as sick as the folks I take care of, and at the end of the day I do my best and pass the baton to my co-workers to continue the care leaving work at work. I do my best to enjoy each day I have off doing things that make me smile. You made it this far for a reason push on,All jobs have their problems. It is not a glamorous job and your not always appreciated, but when someone you see outside the hospital says omg you we're my nurse and I am so thankful for the care you gave me....it makes your decision to become a nurse worth it! That is a small example there are victories in nursing. Really we need to be better to each other nurse to nurse and have each other's back....then we won't feel as overwhelmed. Feel free to write any time, I'm here to listen and help if you need it. Your not alone!

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Denise in Detroit, Michigan

6 months ago

Why don't you try case management? You can still be a patient advocate, assist them in post-discharge needs, but not have to do bedside nursing - I find it very fulfilling

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Over it! in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

Please if you are reading this don't go into nursing. It will drain all the life force out of you. It will turn you into your worst self. You will go into if young, in shape and happy, but come out the total opposite because there is no time to care for yourself, your family and your patients.

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Dianne in Carseldine, Australia

6 months ago

I have been nursing for many years. My better years were in England after training. Nothing was too much for me. The more challenging, the better. It definetly was not for money. In those days nursing was the lowest paid. My first pay packet after deductions for board & tax, was only 11pounds ( approx $20) following a month of labour.
I then had several years off to raise children. Through lack of confidence, I started back as an assistant in nursing (AIN) in aged care for few years untill I was granted a scholarship for B/N. it was a very unpleasant experience as a mature student. Very little respect or care is given to nursing students. This treatment prevented me from continuing on in acute care. I threw myself into aged care again where I am "stuck". It is very hard work leaving me exhausted. If I could start again, I would specialise in coronary care. I worked 3 years in palliative care as RN. I loved that job but the company being a charity, run out of funds. I am too close to end of career to start over but would love to work private as wound care in the homes. Any ideas welcome. ��

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Peggy smith in Crawfordville, Florida

6 months ago

AngelaBrooks said: Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
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Hi. I've been an RN for 30 years . I'm 62 and want out. I'm so burned out, depressed. Can't handle things. Insomnia, anger. Ugh. Would love to know if I.could do something new. Definitely leaving nursing. Peggy RN

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Dianne in Brisbane, Australia

6 months ago

Peggy, this isn't what you will want to hear but don't leave your nursing job unless you have another job to walk into. It's very hard at our age to start over again. I am now 67 & finding it very hard. I'm with an agency so at least free to go if choose. Too old to study now so stuck in aged care. All the best!

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Denise in Chicago, Illinois

6 months ago

Do they have home care agencies where you live? In the USA, we have agencies who send nurses, therapists, social workers, etc out to the home. If you have them, call to see if they will hire you for wound care. You might find home care nursing less stressful.
Another type of nursing that we have us care management - working in the hospitals, they help people with discharge planning. Outside of the hospital, they counsel people about their health..through a doctors iffice, health care agency, or insurance company
I work from home full time as an utilization management nurse - I review the charts if patients in the hospital & assist with discharge planning

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christinakeenan3@*****.*** in Riverside, New Jersey

6 months ago

I have been licensed as a LPN for about eight years now. I had a very hard time getting work at first because my children were still young. My husband wasn't able to be there all the time and we couldn't afford day care then. I worked overnights but had to be awake when the children got home. I kept losing the work because I couldn't fill in or take over shifts. I tried switching to just home health, but some of the agencies want extensive clinical experience. Other agencies have told me to go work somewhere else for about six months, then come back to them. I am tired of the run around. I guess I will go back to school for medical sonography or editing medical writing. My Bachelors degree is in English.

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arnwoonds4j0b in Tucson, Arizona

6 months ago

I know when I lived in the Northeast they had work with agencies in the schools. The pay isn't well so I have not tried it. The hours seemed pretty reason for a mom trying to work. The Northeast is very competitive when it comes to lots of their jobs like Home Health but, I would think if you did the school think for awhile it would be a boost to get into it. I I could only get work in an agency in a hospital or doctors offices. It wasn't very reliable because once someone hated you there goes your job. Hospitals would never hire me with an Associates in school for BSN. It took me 10 years to get a perm job in a Magnet facility in AZ by doing travel and agency work. Trust me most managers were not impressed with my job hopping experience but I had no choice but to deal. Though I was able to convince my family to move far away as my husband's job pays considerable less than nursing.

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Florence fit the role in Fairfax Station, Virginia

6 months ago

bedside nursing is for women like Florence Nightingale, which is women with no kids or a husband.

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brianstaffer in Westbury, New York

6 months ago

I am looking for nurses here in NYC and all 5 boroughs and Long island. Direct message me if anybody is interested

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infochickens in Manton, Michigan

5 months ago

Most of the posts here are terrifying, the pain and loss of so many who cared for their patients and even their supervisors and MDs. What really needs to be said is that your ANA (a wholly owned subsidiary of the AMA) has abandoned you and actually caused this absurdity we call as 'Nursing'. Back in the Forties and Fifties, nurses were revered as community assets, they were on boards locally as well as in the hospitals and the counties as leaders and were regarded as PROFESSIONALS, just under the level of MDs. Yes, I am way older than most of you, and I can tell you I have watched while the leaadership of the ANA stripped 'Nursing' of its professional stance to a time-card punching slave system. The AMA fathers, and the ANA daughters did this on purpose. Hospitals were made to install 'ladder' programs, Primary, or Team center care, and many other programs. They instituted Baylor 12 hour shifts, which in two years after implementation was the cause of wholesale divorce in nusing families. 6 in the AM to 6 in the PM, who do you think was taking care of the kids, Dad? Hell no, he found someone else that wasn't tired or cranky and was either thrown out or he left. Nursing has had no real leadership at the top, only biddys, that tow the AMA line of Dominance and Separation. Look at what we used to have: RNs, LPNs, Candy Stripers (now CNAs). The RNs would cross train so that they could do any floor. Now we have 30 different RN categories and all that does is separate us and that leaves us to no job if you leave for having a child or going back to school. The ANA has commoditized the Nursing Profession and laid it to waste. Hospitals have learned to use us and discard us, it is game theory at its worse. I am 70, male, still working and I am tired of having my blood sucked from my body. Abandon hope, all ye who enter Nursing, you care, but they do not.

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nurselori73 in Cypress, Texas

5 months ago

Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida said: Dog grooming fortunately is not licensed! I just went to the shop my family used fir our dogs and dye taught me and doldrums me her biz. Trust me, if you can pass nursing school, you can learn dog grooming!

Would you be willing to help me a little? I'm have been looking into grooming as a possibility but not sure where to go for good training? I live on Ohio/WV. I would rather pierce my eyeballs then spend another 17 years as an RN/BSN
nurselori73@yahoo.com

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natashad123 in California, California

5 months ago

Hi,

I am curious to get insight for the following nursing specialties. If you have worked in any please share your expertise.

Certified Diabetic Educator
Traveling Transplant Coordinator
Continuation Education writer

Thank you!

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leizawhalen in Blue Springs, Missouri

5 months ago

too true in Redmond, Oregon said: I have been an RN for 16 years now. I have another Bachelor's degree. If you like the work stay in. I made a change away from hospital nursing, and it is a godsend.

Hi! I was wondering if you'd be willing to share what your other bachelor's degree is in.I've been a nurse for 15 years with mainly Sorgery (scrubbing & circulating), GI,Pre-Op & OP Infusion. I recently suffered a shoulder injury(work related) that required surgery w/3 bone anchors & extensive recovery. I'm burned out, realize my body isn't sustaining the physical demands & planning to go back to school. I'm thinking MBA, MSN in Informatics or MHA. Please help! TIA for your advice!!

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Nurseredwing in San Antonio, Texas

4 months ago

I have tried case management on a military base for the last 1.5 years and I honestly don't know why I'm here. I have worked in a variety of settings as an RN-hospital, nursing homes, home health, and finally case management. The longest I have stayed anywhere is a little over 2 years because I find out that particular setting is not for me. I am only 30 years old and have been in the profession almost 9 years and I HAVE HAD IT! There has always been an older nurse that has had it out for me and I am done. I hope for their sake that they have somebody to take care of them when they have to go to a nursing home, because if older nurses keep treating us like this, I have a feeling they will get exactly what they wished for and our generation won't be around to help them because they all forced us to quit the profession. Please help me out. I have a lot of debt from nursing school and I don't know what to do.

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natashad123 in California, California

4 months ago

Nurseredwing in San Antonio, Texas said: I have tried case management on a military base for the last 1.5 years and I honestly don't know why I'm here. I have worked in a variety of settings as an RN-hospital, nursing homes, home health, and finally case management. The longest I have stayed anywhere is a little over 2 years because I find out that particular setting is not for me. I am only 30 years old and have been in the profession almost 9 years and I HAVE HAD IT! There has always been an older nurse that has had it out for me and I am done. I hope for their sake that they have somebody to take care of them when they have to go to a nursing home, because if older nurses keep treating us like this, I have a feeling they will get exactly what they wished for and our generation won't be around to help them because they all forced us to quit the profession. Please help me out. I have a lot of debt from nursing school and I don't know what to do.

have you tried case management working from home? my mom is a RN with an associate degree and works from home as a Case manager

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