Alternative Careers in Pharmacy

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rxtech in Auburn, Alabama

54 months ago

asdf in Lincolnton, North Carolina said: All I care about is the money and job security. Do Pharmacist make good money?

I've also heard that Pharmacist is a very secure job from a lot of people. I've even heard from Pharmacist themselves saying that they can move anywhere within the US and find a job as a Pharmacist.

I have thought about majoring in Computer Science. Would Computer Science be better than Pharmacy?

I have also thought about being a psychologist but my parents won't pay for my college if I become a psychologist because they don't beleave they get paid good for what they do.

So, I thought about going into Pharmacy, Save up and get either a masters or phD in Psychology and then later on become a Psychiatrist because I would already have experience in Psychology and know some things about drugs therefore, Psychology + Pharmacy = Psychiatrist!

Hi! I am in your exact same shoes...therefore, I am going to become a pharmacist first. Then if I am still interested in the Psychology field I will be making enough money to pay to go back to school myself. You're parents are (in a way) right... It is difficult to find a job in psychology because there are so few available yet so many people interested in the field. I believe you would make more money as a pharmacist tho. Good luck with your decision.

sorry for anonymity in Wisconsin

53 months ago

Thank you all for your professionalism and not turning this blog into a rant.
Thank you also for sharing your situations, observations and beliefs that are very similar to mine. I felt an uncomfortable sense of validation in reading these. Attempts to explain to friends and family fall on deaf ears. Their only response is “Yeah. But the money”.
My story. 30 year pharmacy career in all aspects (hospital, retail, SNF/LTCF, relief).
Type A performer with “slight attitudinal disorder”. Well-liked. My Goal=right drug, right dose, right patient, right time. Tried to become management to address problems. Not successful. In retrospect, perhaps I should have done more in pharmacy organizations dedicated to advancing and protecting the profession.
Earlier this year I had had enough. Went looking for alternative career/job. Hundreds of job applications, hours on computer job sites, phone calls and letters yielded 2 interviews and several rude dismissals. Bottom line; six years of pharmacy school does not impress anyone and one cannot get past the suspicion of the HR person if you are trying to get away from pharmacy. There must be something fundamentally wrong with you. Other evidence to this point is that I do not know a single pharmacist that has successfully gotten out of the “profession”.
In desperation went to truck driving school. Obtained CDL but I am not good at it. Took a job working in a warehouse for $10 an hour.
The future? I do not know. Even if I can go back to pharmacy (which is in some doubt) can I make it the next 20 years? Medical treatment has done little to stem the anxiety I get from the animosity of general public, seeming cruelty of non-pharmacist managers and indifference of some colleagues and co-workers. You are all in my prayers.

purple76 in Smyrna, Delaware

53 months ago

This is a reply to 'sorry for anonymity'. I am touched and saddened by your message. Wow. I am speechless but I understand.... I understand the frustration and lack of respect that comes with this profession. How sad.

Lore2400 in Mooresville, North Carolina

53 months ago

This is also in reply to "sorry for anonymity." I am sorry you have experienced such frustration and anxiety in both your professional and your personal life as well. I understand much of what you are describing-people think there is something wrong with you if you want to do something different. I have not been in the profession long at all, and I feel I need to get out also. After dealing with some medical issues, it is just so hard for me to retain the knowledge required of a pharmacist, and I don't feel comfortable with the responsibility I hold working as a pharmacist. If there are any pointers you have for me, I would appreciate it. I feel as if I am in this alone-family/friends do not understand how much responsibility we have, how much we have to remember, and how falling behind just a little or having a mental issue can mean you may not need to be in the field. Actually, I'm guessing that's what it means. I'm not sure. I'm asking anyone out there with experience to let me know. Since we're professionals I guess I can share the medical issues. I have dealt w/ tx resistant depression for the last 10 years, but made it through undergrad and pharm school with flying colors. I have tried almost every antidepressant, and even ECT. More recently I have struggled with migraines. They were bad enough that I agreed to take Topamax 100 bid, which has impaired my memory, ability to retain information, and word-finding ability. It is driving me crazy, and it seems like it is taking forever for it to go away. Migraines are miserable though, and when they are almost daily, you cannot work. Even with this med, I still get them 3 times a month. Nobody in my life really understands these issues either, which compounds the whole situation further. And by the way, I am looking for a job currently-not in the field, working. So, I'm asking advice from anyone who has been in this/a similar situation or has known someone dealing with something similar. I don't know what to do.

sorry for anonymity in Wisconsin

53 months ago

During your day did you ever notice the "reward" for truly helping a patient was to get behind on your workload and incur the wrath of every patient (and manager) thereafter? (Please smile at this.) I felt compelled to answer this right away but I am leary about giving advice. Because I haven't figured it out yet either. I will just take your statements in turn. As for the responsibility. It is a balancing-act. You are right to take it seriously. But not too seriously. Make sense? Perhaps difficult to achieve. But this first step may help you in the short term. Might have helped me. I am guessing that you are a fairly new grad and so the added pressure of sticking with it after all the schooling is high. Second. The medical issues are definitely a huge factor for you. And I apologize. In my younger years I would have been a co-worker that was not always understanding. With age comes compassion. I understand more now how you feel. Try to find a colleague that can help and then help them, too. We go it alone too much. Third is "treatment resistant" depression. Two kinds of depression. Exogenous (situational) and endogenous. Mine has also been treatment resistant. Which has lead me to believe it is situational. (my opinion). (Just one medical "rule-out" you may want to pursue for the migraines if you are female, hormonal therapy. Either stopping or starting. I really have seen this be a huge factor and at times more successful than neuroleptics). Job search. I am trying to answer the question "what do I want to do?" with a naive hope that if I start there, plan and act, I will achieve. Goal for me now is not so much being happy, but being right with myself. Sorry. Wish this were better advice.

modell23 in Brooklyn, New York

53 months ago

modell23 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Unfortunately i never trained postgraduate in a hospital. I'm not going back to retail......slaved it out for 7 years. I will do temp positions in any setting until I get a hospital gig. That's a promise.

Update: Networking paid off big time for me. I finally got a hospital job with 7 years retail background utilizing my pharmacists networks. With most hospitals seeking two years inpatient experience in the quad-state area (including PA), I had to get creative and try another job seeking route. Please join a professional pharmacy association affiliated with the branch of pharmacy you want to work in. To future pharmacists, consider retail your last option IF you desire making pharmacy your long-term profession. My new position at a reputable hospital commences next week and I am excited. I know each pharmacy setting has its pros and cons but I am starting off with a clean slate and attitude. After being in the job hunt for a year, I choose to have to NO negative preconceptions about the hospital setting. I choose to be humble in all professional interactions. I can certainly use some words of wisdom from my fellow colleagues in this forum with more years of experience than me. Please tell me what the ultimate key to success in this setting is cause I plan on being there long term. Thanks!

Lore2400 in Mooresville, North Carolina

53 months ago

Thanks so much for your advice. Even though you haven't figured it out yet, you have more experience than I do. You are correct to guess I am a relatively new grad-I graduated in 2008. I believe I know what you mean about not taking the responsibility too seriously. When I was interning, we had a new grad who would not verify anything until she consulted her reference books and Palm. She was driving herself crazy along with everybody else, not to mention creating a long wait time. You have to get to a point where you trust yourself. With the medical issues I'm facing, however, I don't even know if I can cut it with the basics, and I'm scared to death to find out the hard way...by being fired or by making a mistake. With many pharmacists looking for positions right now, it is very easy for employers to hire a more experienced RPh over me. With student loans, the pressure to stick with this is very high, just like you said. Although I am only in my 20's, I will mention hormone therapy to my neurologist next time for the migraines, or maybe looking at my OC which I mentioned to her before. Topamax is awful. I don't think the depression is situational. I have dealt with it (and anxiety) since late high school. I really enjoyed my undergrad, but not my pharm school (too much politics), yet I was depressed the whole time, even in undergrad. I'm "happily married" to a wonderful guy now, but I'm still depressed. I have seen many psychiatrists, none have suggested situational, and around 4 (including a top Emory psychiatrist specializing in refractory depression, who I saw for at least a year) plus my therapist (who has known me for 10 years) had strongly recommended the ECT txs. I had 2 series of txs: 2007 and 2008. They helped short term, but memory loss was too big of an issue to do maintenance txs. Pharmacy probably made the depression worse, but it's not the cause. I'm also drowsy all the time. Job search...think I need to figure out what I can handle. Thanks again.

sorry for anonymity in Wisconsin

53 months ago

You have a lot going for you. Good insight, gratitude, goals...And you're right. Pharmacy didn't cause my depression either. Just really doesn't help. You sound like a neat person. Day at a time. I wish you all the best.

wbnc in Tacoma, Washington

53 months ago

I have been a retail pharmacist for over 20 years and I will be unemployed for one year on the 16th of this month. Finding a pharmacy job is next to impossible and something not pharmacy related, well they will not give me the time of day. This thread has been very informative. frustration as set in big time....

HV64 in San Diego, California

53 months ago

Health care is really bad to get into right. I have been looking at forums from radiation therapy, radiology techs, pharmacy, nuclear medicine, and even nursing all saying the same thing: that the market is flooded. I regret ever from going into the medical field.

ironhorse in Phoenix, Arizona

52 months ago

I have got my licence since august 2009 I stayed home due to family matter now I am looking for job I can't find any every one asking for experience I don't what to do to get this experience any recommendation or help

wbnc in Tacoma, Washington

52 months ago

ironhorse in Phoenix, Arizona said: I have got my licence since august 2009 I stayed home due to family matter now I am looking for job I can't find any every one asking for experience I don't what to do to get this experience any recommendation or help

kind of in the same boat here. since i am unemployed for over a year now, my "experience" or lack there of is killing my chances. I am looking at other fields. the only advice that i can give is to keep applying for jobs since that is what i am doing.

ironhorse in Phoenix, Arizona

52 months ago

thank for the comment but what is the other fields the pharmacist could find or work for other than to be a pharmacist
you know I am thinking if i could be certified as nuclear pharmacist or any thing else may be I can find some training or getting some experience,but also I am facing that I should be working pharmacist at least for 2 years to be certified

wbnc in Tacoma, Washington

52 months ago

ironhorse in Phoenix, Arizona said: thank for the comment but what is the other fields the pharmacist could find or work for other than to be a pharmacist
you know I am thinking if i could be certified as nuclear pharmacist or any thing else may be I can find some training or getting some experience,but also I am facing that I should be working pharmacist at least for 2 years to be certified

other fields means anything outside of pharmacy. i have thought about Nuclear but right now I just need some sort of income.

mapuche in Los Angeles, California

52 months ago

I agree that pharmacists are mistreated, not respected and expected to perform like machines. However, I also lay the blame on ourselves for allowing this to happen to us. There is little to no cohesion in this profession, no unity and apparently a lack of self respect. While working as a traveling pharmacist I have refused to return to certain clients and have insisted on at least cushioned padding on concrete floors. This caused one director to tell my agency not to send me back. How utterly disrespectful. I have seen more than my share of DMs with their own personal agendas to impose their will and demonstrate their power over others, hospital pharmacy managers with personality disorders who are allowed to reign terror unchecked and more pharmacists that I care to count that allow themselves to be berated and abused by nurses, patients and store managers, to have chairs removed so they can't sit down, that do not stand up for themselves or insist that they be treated with dignity. It is shameful that not one pharmaceutical agency stands up for the professional treatment of pharmacists. Until not to long ago, the first option when calling the California Board of Pharmacy was to press "1" if you have a complaint about a pharmacy or pharmacist. What kind of nonesense is this? If I am dismissed because I insist on being treated as a professional, forget professional, as a human with physical limitations that do not allow me to perform like a machine, then so be it. It will be an affirmation that I will be leaving this profession not a day too soon. And so right about your experience amounting to nothing. 30+ years in home infusion, hospital, in-patient, out-patient, long term care, chain, you name it and Spanish spieaking, and they pay me about the same as a brand new grad. Disgusting. I wish I had changed careers before I had a family.

purple76 in Dover, Delaware

52 months ago

In response to Mapuche. You are absolutely right. I have been saying this for the longest time. We are treated very disrespectfully and it seems like as a profession, we are weak and scared. Sometimes, I can't believe I got a Dr. of pharmacy degree to be treated like this. I have been treated so badly that I too thought about leaving the profession. Long hours without sitting or having a lunch break and I could go on and on. The last thing my chain came up with is to have priscription ready in 15 min... now they have turned our profession into fast food. I am disgusted.

Robert RPH in Dallas, Texas

52 months ago

SO MAPUCHE QUIT, I AM SURE SOMEONE ELSE WILL TAKE YOUR 100K SALARY AND ALL THE DISRESPECT...

xyz in Irvine, California

52 months ago

We have no one to blame but ourselves. When I was in pharmacy school, I took on many leadership positions and tried to motivate others to participate in community projects or activities that further our profession. It was very difficult to get others to join. There were those very few who were gung-ho about most projects and did their best. Others would just passively let those opportunities pass them by.

It is true that Pharm.Ds have more options (clinical roles and other pharmaceutical related opportunities). However, new schools supply more pharmacists than there are job openings. I graduated in 2007 and haven't found a steady job. I too get very depressed about the job prospects and where our profession is going.

What I find useful is joining a local pharmacist association or professional meetings (APhA etc). There you meet others who can be very inspirational. In addition, it's a great way to network and that is how you might find a job. Please do all that you can to further (or save) our profession, whether by joining a local chapter or motivating the right kind of people to enter the profession of pharmacy.

xyz in Irvine, California

52 months ago

We have no one to blame but ourselves. When I was in pharmacy school, I took on many leadership positions and tried to motivate others to participate in community projects or activities that further our profession. It was very difficult to get others to join. There were those very few who were gung-ho about most projects and did their best. Others would just passively let those opportunities pass them by.

It is true that Pharm.Ds have more options (clinical roles and other pharmaceutical related opportunities). However, new schools supply more pharmacists than there are job openings. I graduated in 2007 and haven't found a steady job. I too get very depressed about the job prospects and where our profession is going.

What I find useful is joining a local pharmacist association or professional meetings (APhA etc). There you meet others who can be very inspirational. In addition, it's a great way to network and that is how you might find a job. Please do all that you can to further (or save) our profession, whether by joining a local chapter or motivating the right kind of people to enter the profession of pharmacy.

chancery in Atlanta, Georgia

50 months ago

After 34 yrs. in pharmacy, I can not get a job. I have had my resume out there for over a year and the market is flooded. Thank God I saved money and am very close to social security or it would be worse. For all you perspective pharmacists, be very cautious of what the Rx schools tell you about job growth and availability. As others have mentioned, these people are in the business of selling you a seat for 5 yrs. no more and nothing else. I am hearing horror stories in the Atlanta area about the glut in this area.There is also a is a lot of grumbling from the soon to be graduates about jobs. There is another downside about today's market. You may be a great or good pharmacist and get sacked for someone who will work for less. Happens daily. Remember, the bottom line is all that businesses and schools look at and a lot of people are ground up and thrown away for them to achieve it. I do think it is good that there is a semi resurgence of independents now. The chains made enough people mad for them to finally say to Hell with you. A good independent can and will kick chain butt. Another writer said to become a GP. Good advice!

chancery in Atlanta, Georgia

50 months ago

The sad thing that most young people do not know, is that a plumber or electrician, and certainly HVAC specialist make more than a pharmacist. If I was a young man, I would start me a trade company and be my own boss, without all the gov. intrusion that pharmacy and medicine endure. It will be a long time before there are government paid plumbers!Some of you are laughing, but to prove a point. Let me tell you something I saw someone report on. It was a plumbers convention down by the seaside. As the camera panned out over the parking lot, you would have thought that it was a physicians convention because there was not a low-end car in the lot. Some big bellied plumber said that he though it was foolish to get a degree and have no job, when plumbers needed new people. He lamented the lack of interest in the trades and said that people who went into them made a great living and were there own bosses. The Mercedes he was getting into was his!

wbnc in Tacoma, Washington

50 months ago

currently working a $9/hr job while I look for a pharmacist position. tough to find a job outside of pharmacy as i am either over qualified or they think that i will not hang around if i find a pharmacist position and there is some truth to that.

ArtistIN/PharmacistOUT in Buffalo, New York

50 months ago

ironhorse in Phoenix, Arizona said: I have got my licence since august 2009 I stayed home due to family matter now I am looking for job I can't find any every one asking for experience I don't what to do to get this experience any recommendation or help

Hi!
I am a foreign graduate and the way I got my fist Pharmacist job 8 years ago(after getting my license) is that I asked to volunteer at a hospital and learn how to do IV's. It was very much appreciated that I was willing to put my time in, work hard and learn without asking for money.
Two months later, I was offered a job, already knew everyone and everyone wanted me there.
Maybe you could call up some directors of pharmacy, explain your situation, say that you would like to volunteer for a while until you get a job, so that you can keep up with the knowledge. I'm sure that if they have an opening - you would be the first one in.
Hope this helped!
~ B.

BSS BALAJI DEVARAPALLI in Bangalore, India

44 months ago

Who can help me out in going to USA or Canada.for being registered as pharmacist.I am doing PharmD PB from India now in Internship.So what are the ways i am having to enter USA or Canada inorder to prepare for FPGEE,NAPLEX and MPJE.I am interested in residency programs or work for some pharmacies,,,Pla do reply and give me a suggestion to this.....which will be helpful to me ...I will complete my graduation by 2012 OCT.

BSS BALAJI DEVARAPALLI in Bangalore, India

44 months ago

Thanks for your suggestion dude I am not planning to settle in USA or Canada just to gain experience so that I can implement in other developing countries like our india..I respect Americans...

Rx in Portland, Oregon

44 months ago

JadedRxStudent in Brooklyn, New York said: Hello all....

I am a pharmacy student with an expected graduation date of May 2013. I want to cry so bad. The state where I attend school opened up another pharmacy school! There was no need for it! The president of this new school chanted about a shortage and how this school would solve the shortage!!!! And the strange thing was they filled all their seats! I agree with many posters that said the economy didn't create this crisis, but the greed of academia did! I have accrued so much debt in the pursuit of higher education and pharmacy was the job that can pay off my debt in a good and reasonable time frame.

I really hope and pray for the best for the profession, I really do.......

Good luck one and all

Yes, it was the greed of acadamia, and also the letting in of all the foreign pharmacists that are taking American pharmacist jobs-I think the employers get some kickback from the government for taking them - so the government is financing our unemployment!
the chain I worked at had a PDM from India, and she was hiring pharmacists from India at as many of her locations as possible. I think the chain may have purposely put her in the PDM position to appeal to the applicants from India. The location I was at they even added 1 more Rph on staff(from India) than was needed and cut everyone's hours to fit her in.

modell23 in New York, New York

44 months ago

Don't focus on petty issues like foreign pharmacists. Let them take the retail jobs that Don't require much clinical knowledge. We American trained pharmacists should galvanize and demand better work environments and opportunities
. There is no need for an additional year for residency. As a PharmD we should qualify for positions that now require a residency. Focus on distinguishing yourself before you graduate. My brother is going for a joint PharmD MPH in 4 yrs. Diversity is a beautiful thing. I had an asian American PDM who fired all the African American / African pharmacists in hid district and hired all Asia pharmacists. It only gave me an opportunity to get out of retail which I did. I got a hospital staff job. I was blessed by his actions. Now I'm pursuing a MS in pharmacy in applied pharmacoeconomics. Focus on your career not people and their actions. If you have Athena right attitude you will get the job you want. Good luck.

dan in Lawrenceville, Georgia

44 months ago

Rx in Portland, Oregon said: Yes, it was the greed of acadamia, and also the letting in of all the foreign pharmacists that are taking American pharmacist jobs-I think the employers get some kickback from the government for taking them - so the government is financing our unemployment!
the chain I worked at had a PDM from India, and she was hiring pharmacists from India at as many of her locations as possible. I think the chain may have purposely put her in the PDM position to appeal to the applicants from India. The location I was at they even added 1 more Rph on staff(from India) than was needed and cut everyone's hours to fit her in.

Rx in Oregon how bad is the saturation there?

DonnaRx in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

44 months ago

purple76 in Dover, Delaware said: In response to Mapuche. You are absolutely right. I have been saying this for the longest time. We are treated very disrespectfully and it seems like as a profession, we are weak and scared. Sometimes, I can't believe I got a Dr. of pharmacy degree to be treated like this. I have been treated so badly that I too thought about leaving the profession. Long hours without sitting or having a lunch break and I could go on and on. The last thing my chain came up with is to have priscription ready in 15 min... now they have turned our profession into fast food. I am disgusted.

Hi.. I have been reading this thread and can't help but wonder.. did you find another job? Did you figure out HOW we can go into another career path while still being able to pay our mortgages???? I have been a pharmacist in retail for 11 years, and I am burned out!! But I can't get out of this profession because I could not pay my bills!! It is so hard going to a job every day that you now HATE! I used to love going to work.

David in Atlanta, Georgia

43 months ago

The chumminess between the pharmacy schools and the chains always bothered me in the back of my mind. The schools have and still do receive a lot of cash from the chains. Well, now I know why it bothered me even 25 yrs. ago. The chains needed the schools to flood the market and went along with every building program that popped up. It was all in the name of getting rid of the shortage according to the educators. In reality it was all for the benefit of the academic cash machine and the chains. They have been in bed with each other for years. The schools make more money off of increased enrollment, the chains make more money off of decreased salaries. The big losers are the working pharmacist and the even bigger loser the pharmacy student. The pharmacist, especially the older ones, are under the gun because management wants to replace them with someone faster and cheaper. And now, with the glut of pharmacists, that is easy to do. The students on the other hand face getting out to a jobless profession still carrying the weight of crushing student loans. All of us were so used to the good times, we sat back and took no notice of the cancer that was spreading in the pharmacy body. Now we are being eaten up day by day.

David in Atlanta, Georgia

43 months ago

The chumminess between the pharmacy schools and the chains always bothered me in the back of my mind. The schools have and still do receive a lot of cash from the chains. Well, now I know why it bothered me even 25 yrs. ago. The chains needed the schools to flood the market and went along with every building program that popped up. It was all in the name of getting rid of the shortage according to the educators. In reality it was all for the benefit of the academic cash machine and the chains. They have been in bed with each other for years. The schools make more money off of increased enrollment, the chains make more money off of decreased salaries. The big losers are the working pharmacist and the even bigger loser the pharmacy student. The pharmacist, especially the older ones, are under the gun because management wants to replace them with someone faster and cheaper. And now, with the glut of pharmacists, that is easy to do. The students on the other hand face getting out to a jobless profession still carrying the weight of crushing student loans. All of us were so used to the good times, we sat back and took no notice of the cancer that was spreading in the pharmacy body. Now we are being eaten up day by day.

hatemyjob in washington, District of Columbia

43 months ago

CVS sucks. I get a big kick out of knowing that I am not alone in my hatred for the profession and for CVS.

Scared for Rx in New York, New York

43 months ago

David in Atlanta, Georgia said: The chumminess between the pharmacy schools and the chains always bothered me in the back of my mind. The schools have and still do receive a lot of cash from the chains. Well, now I know why it bothered me even 25 yrs. ago. The chains needed the schools to flood the market and went along with every building program that popped up. It was all in the name of getting rid of the shortage according to the educators. In reality it was all for the benefit of the academic cash machine and the chains. They have been in bed with each other for years. The schools make more money off of increased enrollment, the chains make more money off of decreased salaries. The big losers are the working pharmacist and the even bigger loser the pharmacy student. The pharmacist, especially the older ones, are under the gun because management wants to replace them with someone faster and cheaper. And now, with the glut of pharmacists, that is easy to do. The students on the other hand face getting out to a jobless profession still carrying the weight of crushing student loans. All of us were so used to the good times, we sat back and took no notice of the cancer that was spreading in the pharmacy body. Now we are being eaten up day by day.

At my pharmacy school, enrollment has dropped considerably b/c many prospective students cannot afford the damn tuition that keeps getting raised like every other year for no damn reason. Maybe the correction of the glut of pharmacy is in the early (really early) stages of correcting itself. In my class and the 2 classes after me, there are less and less students. One professor stated that enrollment has dropped considerably.......markets always have ways of correcting themselves.Did anyone hear of the recent European banking crisis? I guarantee that crisis will eventually hit the US. That will equate to even less jobs.....I guarantee those chummy chains will start to design a new super-tech!

andy in Draper, Utah

43 months ago

I am a pharmacy student in utah, in general people complain too much, pharmacy is not a bad profession and there are still jobs but harder to find. It is kind of a dead end mentally, the pay is very good and if you want to expand your career choices doing fellowships are definelty good ideas. Every healthcare field is saturated nowadays there are too many nurses in Utah and my friend goes to a carribean med school with 400 students that is just how it is nowadays.

anonymous in Lowville, New York

42 months ago

I feel for most all of you on this thread. I have read everyone's comments, and I too can't find a pharmacist position even though I have 16 years experience with licenses in NY, VA and FL. I am a 50+
female with tx resistant genetic depression(there is still such stigma out there), but educationally I did well. I don't know what to do either as a single parent with a 15 yr old son. I have only retail experience and have had problems with nasty DMs, managers, assistant managers, some of my peers, and especially irate customers who work us to death. We are no longer considered professionals, we are treated as though we live on the streets which will hopefully not be my future. Good luck to you all out there and yes make sure you new graduates have a back-up plan!

pc1984 in London, United Kingdom

42 months ago

I thought this site was for alternative jobs for pharmacists not pharmacists complaining about their jobs. Haven't found this helpful at all!

Prospect pharmacy student in Corvallis, Oregon

42 months ago

I am surprised by all these complaints from pharmacists about their jobs as well! I was looking to have a future in the career of pharmacy but reading these comments, I am puzzled and heartbroken. Is it really that horrible? I have spoken with a couple of pharmacists who absolutely love their jobs though none who are are from the retail area of pharmacy. So, are these complaints only about the retail field of pharmacy?

Confused and Scared in Westminster, California

42 months ago

Please remember what goes on this board is a bit skewed. Happily practicing pharmacists will not be here and say how happy they are. They are busy working and spending the dough they make. I have to say, there is a very nice pharmacist on this board who does a great service by answering many inquiries including private msgs and offer encouragement.

Getting back to previous comment about retail pharmacy. Yes, I would never set my foot in retail. For me, retail or inpatient has its own set challenges. You are making an impact whether it is retail or inpatient. Inpatient can be robotic and inspiring if all you do is verifying entry orders. The nursing staff or MDs can be mean and nasty. Usualy, it is not he case, however. What makes retail unattractive is how the corporate treats you. You really are a number and all the care is the bottle line. They are not employee focused. They encourage patients/customers to be spoiled rotten. If you haven't seen the commercial about "15 min guarantee prescription", then you you must have been under the rock. They encourage patients to see pharmacy/medication as a product, and not a service. When a person shops for a product, s/he wants the cheapest, the best, and the most convenient one there is.

If you set on doing retail (or community-a nicer way to say it), it is still possible to do it. I find that niche pharmacy-compound, or independent pharmacies, are where you will get some satisfaction.

At the end, if you are in pharmacy for the right reason, you will find what you love to do and will be happy with it. If you are still investigating whether or not pharmacy is for you, talk to some who are happy or not happy with pharmacy. Ask for the "who, where, what, why" sort of questions. Avoid the emotional questions. Good luck to you.

Tweety in Dayton, Ohio

41 months ago

Hi, I have done with my masters in pharmacy practice in India.what job oppurtunities can I have here in USA?help me out

I went to school for this? in Yakima, Washington

41 months ago

Prospect pharmacy student in Corvallis, Oregon said: I am surprised by all these complaints from pharmacists about their jobs as well! I was looking to have a future in the career of pharmacy but reading these comments, I am puzzled and heartbroken. Is it really that horrible? I have spoken with a couple of pharmacists who absolutely love their jobs though none who are are from the retail area of pharmacy. So, are these complaints only about the retail field of pharmacy?

I would direct you towards a career elsewhere like others have posted, ie Chiropractor, ARNP, PA, etc. The retail aspect is the worst for bad treatment by customers and store management, lack of long term job security, and poor work enviroment, yes, SO this makes the other jobs in hospitals much more competitive to obtain. 20yrs ago when I graduated I knew of 2-3 students who did a residency. Now students are fighting for them because no one wants to work retail. The demands are brutal. I've loved retail at first and was good at it, filling accurately and quicker than most, and the money was awesome. Now I'm burnt out from rude customers, being harrassed by uneducated store management with unrealistic expectations, and demanding work loads with untrained help who have more rights than you do. Staff gets breaks, lunches, personal days, lenient absentism policy,and can get mad and walk off the job at will and come back the following day! Good luck!

Curly in Tacoma, Washington

41 months ago

Retail has always been working fast and dealing with customers-the difference now is that due to the potential oversupply of pharmacists the tide has changed and retail can tell us what they expect of us...15 minute fills, allow customers to yell at you and be nice, memorize and recite to customers all their promotional programs while you are trying to counsel too...and if you start a new job-no more immediate insurance or immediate vacation. It still pays well, but the pay is gradually going down due to the oversupply-most chains are switching to salary instead of hourly to cover up the decrease...and they want to hire the ones fresh out of school because they don't know how things were...There are more jobs open in hospital in our area than retail, but they want department directors with a lot of experience. Even the staff Rph hospital jobs want 1 year experience-which is understandable since it is much different than retail, and if you're feeding a drug through an IV tube you can't afford to make mistakes. So the jobs are there, but you have to be clear on what the jobs are out there, and what they require of you.

flowerchild in Auckland, New Zealand

41 months ago

I graduated in 2010 and worked in retail ...i hated it soo much!! my contract finished 2 months ago and now i am umemployed and finding it hard to get another job. I am looking at alternative careers because theres so much better careers out there compared to retail pharmacy. All you do in retail pharmacy does not require a degree at all!! i feel like it has been a waste of money and time to go into pharmacy and im so confused as what to do now. I know so many of my class mates who are now going back to medicine, denistry and optometry as they have better pay, more respect, better conditions and hours!! here in new zealand you only need an undergradute in those careers so its only an additional 4-5 years.

flowerchild in Auckland, New Zealand

41 months ago

I also just wanted to say that its not just america thats having a glut of graduates, in my country they opened up a new school 10 years ago and now theres too many students graduating each year. 10 years ago pharmacy had so much demand here and you could choose and pick what job, hours and pay you wanted, now theres too much supply of pharmacists instead of 5-10 people applying for one job its now 80-90. Thats what i got told by one lady who did interviews for pharmacists. Anyway i would love to know if any of you guys changed to something else and what you did. Im not sure if i still want to do something health related, im leaning towards the business and IT side now.

BP in Pompano Beach, Florida

40 months ago

kirs in Vancouver, Washington said: I graduated in 2007 and have had the same retail experience as most of you have described.. with the occasional robbery! I felt frustrated with working evenings and weekends.. I am now working in mail order.. which I find very boring, but its a day job and much less stressful. I spent time looking at other careers and was considering a PA license.. the program is 1 year and would probably not be too difficult to get in after having a pharmacist license. I am also considering a residency, but am unsure of the hospital pharmacist needs in my area.. I can't believe how dissapointed I am with my degree..

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I have Pharm.D degree and frustrated with finding job. Can you please tell me which universities provide PA Degree in one year? How do you search?

John Alfone in Branford, Connecticut

40 months ago

I am a registered pharmacist in CT but I have not practiced in over 20 years as I was serving as an educational administrator. I took an early retirement due to the bureaucracy of the profession. I would like to re-enter hospital pharmacy, have taken a pharmacist re-fresher course for pharmacists wishing to re-enter the field but I do not hold a Pharm. D.. I already have a doctorate in education and I would like to hear opinions on my chances of being hired as a pharmacist again. I certainly would be willing (and would expect) to be under the eyes of a preceptor or mentor.

Also interested in knowing what universities offer a 1 year PA program? I live near Yale and their PA is quite extensive, very competitive admissions as they recruit globally and VERY expensive. Would love to know the 1 year places!!

RxFarmChick in Buffalo, New York

40 months ago

To John (from Conn.),

Could you please expand on where you took the Pharmacist Refresher Course? Thanks alot...
In terms of a 1-year P.A. training post-pharmacy, I can't imagine that being the case. It's got to be more like 2-3 years full-time study (also perhaps depending on a bachelors versus M.A. in Physician Assistant studies....also, I have seen online that these colleges do not allow pre-requisites like general chem/organic chem, physics courses taken more than 10 years prior to P.A. entrance...(if so, you have to re-take them all)....that is a alot of studies/work/tuition to do over again...

Sickandtired in Nashville, Tennessee

40 months ago

I'm still young and corporate does the same thing. Our big boss though is a grocery ladywho never been inside a pharmacy. Sure make policy using groceries as an example. They are all nuts anyway. I get busy the phone is the last thing im thinking about. And I dont get a lunch! No pharmacy! Run away!

PharmD in Parsippany, New Jersey said: I was fired from a large retail phamacy in New York a month ago by a witch of a DM
I think they are trying to unload their older pharmacist I worked for them for a year and a half without incident then this new DM
absolutely created the worst envirnonment and use so called company policies to write you up --she wrote you up for not answering the phones within 3 rings, and when there was a custome complaint even if the customer was totally out of line you got written up (eg following state laws)
I have a PharmD from Rutgers 2007 before that stay at home mom and didn't practice for over 8 years then divorce brought me back into the field==
I can't believe how unprofessional some of these new managers have become I know of another pharmcist who is getting sick bc she is being harrassed by this same manager (she is also older) Has anyone else felt discriminated against due to age by these large retail companies?

A83L in United Kingdom

40 months ago

Im an Australian pharmacist and we're in exactly the same situation. The universities are oversupplying young poorly trained pharmacists with the promise of a massive job market. Meanwhile in the real world jobs have dried up unless you go to the middle of nowhere. Whats worst is salaries are declining. The influx of international pharmacists isnt helping either.

The thing is pharmacy has historically been a great career choice. I think that we definitely need some sort of union. If I could go back i would never have done pharmacy. They unemployment rate is just getting so high.
Its too sad....

flowerchild in Auckland, New Zealand

40 months ago

Ok so i want to hear real life stories of people changing and how they did it. Thats what this forum is about. I have a friend who changed to counselling, she finished her pharmacy degree then straight after graduating went into a 3 year counselling course. But has anyone changed after having a wife/husband and any family, financial comittments? i know what i want to change too but its just taking that leap is hard. Anyone finding this?

anonymous in Onalaska, Wisconsin

34 months ago

More importantly, there is a double-edge to the sword in that society does not realize there is a lack of "good" pharmacy jobs and therefore if you try to find any other job you are suspect. Pharmacists must remain pharmacists. Trust me. A 10-12 year mission to land alternate employment has me presently at $12.67 an hour. Dismiss me as "unemployable" if you will but take some real hard good looks at what is going on. If thinking about pharmacy school, don't. If contemplating job change further education do it today. Find out what the employers/hirers want and work toward it. I hope none of you go through what I have been through.

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