Lies about pharmacist job market

Comments (101 to 150 of 970)
Page:  « Previous   1  2  3  4  5  6  Next »   Last »

mwa in Dedham, Massachusetts

41 months ago

Worried in Wallingford, Connecticut said: I am a Pre-pharm student set to graduate in 2016. Should I get out while I can? Where can I go???

I would like some advice from working pharmacists.

If you don't want to be an MD, go into nursing. They are the firefighters of health care - ie, the recognized heroes. There is some gratification in that. Hospitl staff pharmacy feels like the back room in an accounting office - you will hear about it if you screw up but you will never get a thank you from anyone.

enticer in Boynton Beach, Florida

41 months ago

lookin very hard in Boca Raton, Florida said: well..the new year is here...has anyone's situation change for the better...as of now,mine has goten worse!!!!!

Hope you have a better new year. This helped me, see:
scrips4lesscard.com

uselessRPhinNJ in Alexandria, Virginia

41 months ago

Wish I could say yes!! Apparently the job in Trenton NJ is inappropriate for me based on location. Lol That is a first for me... especially since never met the owner or saw store. Its the usual for me I guess. Not the right sex, color, ethnicity or last name! Who the heck knows anymore.

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

41 months ago

I dont know what to tell you but your not a useless pharmacist and I wish you wouldnt use that as your title. Im sitting in a motel in the midwest hoping that a 3 month gig will stretch out to 1 year so I can survive. I graduated pharmacy school 89 and the only position I got was on call(which I had to beg for hours believe me im not proud) and a temp job. What has happen to our field??? Im from New Jersey also but I realise I cannot live there any longer if I wanted to be able to eat or not freeze in the dark. Im hoping this situation will pan out or Im doom but I really need you to keep the faith NotuselessRPhinNJ I know something good is going happen in 2012

RayofLight in Sparta, New Jersey

41 months ago

@MichaelPharmD
I am currently a PharmD Student at Rutgers. I find it hard to believe the difficulty you are having finding a job when there are job postings on every board at Rutgers in the Pharm Building, not to mention the three different job offers I have received as a third year who still has many months until licensure. A suggestion a professor made to my class for those who wanted to be competitive was to become an EMT or to work for a Volunteer Ambulance Squad. You may want to contact your town's squad to inquire. This would certainly put you apart from the application stack in a positive way. Also, you may want to maintain CPR certification as well as Immunization Certification to be desirable. Also, to create rapport with a hospital of interest, why not volunteer? Create a contact through volunteering and go through them. Don't just sit and fill out applications online. However, you also may want to update your recommendations, requesting only positive comments.

Also, have you contacted the pharmacy job recruiter at your school? or the person in charge of assigning rotations? There are over 3,000 sites for us students to go on in NJ. I find it hard to believe NONE are hiring.

I am sorry for your situation, however the future is not doom and gloom as long as you are WILLING to adapt with the current career practices and use your resources wisely.

Useless_RPh_NJ in Florence, New Jersey

41 months ago

I don't understand why pharmacists with a job are reading this forum and even more importantly why they think they have the right to put their SNOTTY comments here when they obviously have no clue what its like being unable to find work. Hope their judgmental attitudes don't carry over to their patients and customers. Its what gives our profession bad name.

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

From the Drug Topics Article:

According to Robert L. Day, PharmD, associate dean, University of California San Francisco School of Pharmacy, the number of pharmacy schools across the United States increased by 50% between 2000 and 2010 (Figure 1). During that time, the U.S. population increased by 9.7%.

Figure 2: Pharmacy school graduation trends

Predictions by the Census Bureau and the American Academy of Colleges of Pharmacy suggest that between 2010 and 2013, the country's total population will grow by 12.6%, from 281.4 million to 316.9 million. Over that same period, the number of pharmacy graduates will grow by 82%, from 7,300 to 13,247 (Figure 2).

That kind of growth comes as no surprise. Cameron noted that pharmacy schools have been gearing up to meet the projected demand for pharmacists in 2014, when most provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act take effect.

"My gut feeling is that the assumptions behind the surveys schools did to project the need for MTM (medication therapy management) and other services in 2014 are no longer valid," Cameron said. "It will never be implemented in anything like the form it was passed in. We are not going to need the number of pharmacists predicted. Schools of pharmacy were banking on MTM. It's a wonderful service, but it was oversold."

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

Useless_RPh_NJ in Florence, New Jersey said: I don't understand why pharmacists with a job are reading this forum and even more importantly why they think they have the right to put their SNOTTY comments here when they obviously have no clue what its like being unable to find work. Hope their judgmental attitudes don't carry over to their patients and customers. Its what gives our profession bad name.

Some of these posts are fakers, done to just get a rise out of people who are playing things straight.
The chains and schools made the surplus happen. They knew and know what they are doing. They simply do not care.

drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drugtopics/Associations/Pharmacist-surplus-Too-much-manpower/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/726723

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

holmes in River Grove, Illinois said: Do not believe some of the lies being written here regarding lack of job opportunities for pharmacists. These liars are trying to scare people off from applying to pharmacy school because they fear that supply will overtake demand. Fact is, pharmacists make tons of money right out of school and there are and will be many job openings in the future. This is all just a feeble attempt to prevent people from entering this lucrative field. Liars!

Yes pharmacists are liars

drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drugtopics/Associations/Pharmacist-surplus-Too-much-manpower/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/726723

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

lynn in Rockville, Maryland said: This is the same statement that was stated before so what I think you are doing is using a new name,the question is why are you doing this??

The reason these people use different names is because they can not read articles like this..
drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drugtopics/Associations/Pharmacist-surplus-Too-much-manpower/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/726723

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

ales in New Orleans, Louisiana said: I am moving to Tx next yr to attend the Texas Tech school of Pharmacy. I just graduated with a business degree and will be hired at Walgreens as a manager (great idea, automatic job once I become a pharmacist) Dallas seems to be where it's at there are nothing but jobs in just about any field. I believe it's all in where you go. From these comments...the East Coast isnt the place to be

For your reading pleasure...

drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drugtopics/Associations/Pharmacist-surplus-Too-much-manpower/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/726723

Yes it's all there for you....

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

41 months ago

finefarmacist in Bridgeport, Connecticut said: I shiver at this !! that is so scary man! after all those yrs studying ur a@s off!! not to menyion the sacrifices along the way.

Shiver

drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drugtopics/Associations/Pharmacist-surplus-Too-much-manpower/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/726723

lookin very hard in Boca Raton, Florida

41 months ago

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey said: I dont know what to tell you but your not a useless pharmacist and I wish you wouldnt use that as your title. Im sitting in a motel in the midwest hoping that a 3 month gig will stretch out to 1 year so I can survive. I graduated pharmacy school 89 and the only position I got was on call(which I had to beg for hours believe me im not proud) and a temp job. What has happen to our field??? Im from New Jersey also but I realise I cannot live there any longer if I wanted to be able to eat or not freeze in the dark. Im hoping this situation will pan out or Im doom but I really need you to keep the faith NotuselessRPhinNJ I know something good is going happen in 2012

as of right now..it's only getting worse!!!!!

Unemployed rph in Vernon Rockville, Connecticut

40 months ago

I have applied for over 300 jobs in the last 3 months and have had 5 interviews. I am willing to relocate but all I was able to fine was per diem work in Miami dispensing oxycodone for cash. I had no control , owner who was non rph had total control the hust needed a rph to open. Not my idea of pharmacy so I back among the unemployed with no hope in sight.

Hameed Malik in Garland, Texas

40 months ago

My humble advice to mankind is that immediately get out of the Pharmacy market and look into either, Nursing or other occupational therapist jobs, PA, Nurse practitioner or in Medicine.
My personal desire and interest lies in Nutrition and Physical exercise but that does not pay much but it will give me great satisfaction and peace of mind. I like to get to the roots of health problems those are , entire food system, lack of organic food, dangerous agriculture techniques, polluted water and environment, meat and fish industry, basic lack of nutrition’s, Final word of wisdom is that get out of the Pharmacy ASASP because computerization, explosion of Internet, robots replacing humans, job transfers to cheaper labor countries, and utilizing of internet to employ foreign intellectuals by multinational profit oriented corporations will pose the greatest threat to almost all the industries plus lack of daily exercise, environmental hazards, additives and preservatives in food, fertilizers, chemical sprays, pollutions, sedentary life, stress and tension, negativity, break up of family unit, human to human relation and connection with loved ones, , lack of dependence on God and faith for hearing of your prayers etc.
Each of these fields have own specialty field in education and good job openings. So those lines will also be good for future jobs provided you enjoy any of those

Brian in Dublin, Ireland

40 months ago

Similar situation here in Ireland. Salaries are actually down anywhere from 30 to 50% of retail pharmacists due largely to draconian cuts in government reimbursement but also a influx of foreign trained pharmacists and a significantly increased domestic supply of graduates.

Brian in Dublin, Ireland

40 months ago

Same situation in Ireland. Oversupply of foreign and domestic graduates, significantly reduced reimbursement from the government culminating in a salary drop of 30-50% in some cases.

UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

40 months ago

Brian in Dublin, Ireland said: Similar situation here in Ireland. Salaries are actually down anywhere from 30 to 50% of retail pharmacists due largely to draconian cuts in government reimbursement but also a influx of foreign trained pharmacists and a significantly increased domestic supply of graduates.

Worldwide trouble ahead.... and yes it is planned for us peasants....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY1EcCUu5nw

People will earn less of what we call money, PLUS stuff will become more expensive
fuel, food, and expect shortages in medicines... In fact Google "Drug Shortages"
Just like they( the banker elite ) basically screwed the entire planet. People better get thier proverbial "s_ _ T" together because were getting sh-tt-ed on now and will be sh-t on more in the future. To those pharmacists who are "waiting"... just get out there and get a job don't wait for your old salaries to come back because you are wasting your time. If you get a pharmacist full time job with all the bells and whistles, GOOD for you ! but like a game of musical chairs as the surplus increases the large corporate employers will continue to push average wages down by exploiting the underemployed pharmacists against the fully employed ones. We were told we needed 300 THOUSAND new pharmacist's in 2008...
What will we be told next... up is down, black is white, and hate really means to love less... University Deans are as crooked as the politicians who appoint them.

pwnttothemax in Columbus, Ohio

40 months ago

older pharmacists: stop being wusses and get with the program. maybe the recession has finally hit our field. use this opportunity to make yourself more attractive to the job market. imagine if every profession whined this much and tried to regulate the amount of people who could go into a field. there would simply not be jobs for anyone. problem solved? DERP

desperate rph in Boca Raton, Florida

40 months ago

pwnttothemax in Columbus, Ohio said: older pharmacists: stop being wusses and get with the program. maybe the recession has finally hit our field. use this opportunity to make yourself more attractive to the job market. imagine if every profession whined this much and tried to regulate the amount of people who could go into a field. there would simply not be jobs for anyone. problem solved? DERP

got any suggestions if noone even wants to talk to us older pharmacists???/

andhow in Moreno Valley, California

40 months ago

desperate rph in Boca Raton, Florida said: got any suggestions if noone even wants to talk to us older pharmacists???/

I would say they just fell of the turnip truck. Sometimes people who feel helpless in their own lives choose to abuse others. One of my customers shouted out at the register in reference to a co worker "She is stupid! She should not be working here!" and I replied "Ma'am stupid people have to work too. We can't just leave them to the system to deal w/!" Wooooopse!

puttinontheritz in columbus OHIO! says:

" imagine if every profession whined this much and tried to regulate the amount of people who could go into a field. there would simply not be jobs for anyone. problem solved? DERP"

You are like the parent on Charlie Brown! We hear you talking but you are not making any sense! Offer something of substance like a link to a certification program. Or share what you are doing so that when your time comes to be old you won't have to resort to whining! What are you going to do in the next 15 yrs that will make em stand up and say "hey this old codger can hold his own! Let's get him/her in here!" ? I guarantee we won't be impressed.

RE: DERP
In your professional communications you should always enclose abbreviations in parenthesis directly after spelling out the full meaning the first time it is used.

Useless_RPh_NJ in Florence, New Jersey

40 months ago

Be Reasonable, Be POLITE!! Lucky for you this is only a forum. You wouldn't say a word if this were face to face meeting. The internet gives young people such foolish bravery as they hide behind their computer. We don't care what you have to say, so stop making a fool of yourself. I hope I never meet you in person. You will know it if I do. Go back to your Face-Book, U-Tube and My Space pages ... stay out of here.

Useless_RPh_NJ in Florence, New Jersey

40 months ago

The above comment RE: DERP... Obviously you need to grow up and learn some manners. I hope your words come back to personally bite you in the britches. Such false bravery hidden behind your little computer as all the young kids do these days. Most likely an insecure immature loser who has nothing better to do than read forums about pharmacists without jobs. Go back to your facebook, u-tube and my space sites and leave us alone. Sad how this profession has gone down the tubes because of such attitudes.

norphjob in Boca Raton, Florida

40 months ago

just rAD ABOUT PROJECT 1 AND EDISON THAT WALGREENS IS DOING.......THINGS ARE REALLY GETTING WORSE....NOT ONLY RPHS BUT STORE MGT. ARE GOING GET CANNED ALSO....NOT A GOOD THING...THANS WASSON AND OBAMA!!!

Catie in Plano, Texas

40 months ago

I have been interested in pharmacy since highschool, and to be honest all of this negative discussion about the pharmacist job market is troubling. The issue I have with many of the noted arguements are that they seem to be based off either assumptions, or the person curses or uses incorrect spelling/grammar. If you want people to take your point that pharmacy is not the best line of work to enter right now; at least take the time to use real words that reflect the amount of intelligence needed to enter a good pharmacy school. For all those who commented with a seemingly unbias viewpoint with valid remarks (such as location regarding jobs), thank you I truly appreciate the information. I understand the point that the job market is considered bad, but look at other career fields in comparison right now; lawyers, multiple variety of jobs related to real estate and other business centered organizations are all suffering currently. Yes, medical school can be considered an alternative to pharmacy school, but can any of you prove or provide legitimate evidence that it would be wiser to enter medical school than pharmacy school?

Brian in Dublin, Ireland

40 months ago

Catie in Plano, Texas said: I have been interested in pharmacy since highschool, and to be honest all of this negative discussion about the pharmacist job market is troubling. The issue I have with many of the noted arguements are that they seem to be based off either assumptions, or the person curses or uses incorrect spelling/grammar. If you want people to take your point that pharmacy is not the best line of work to enter right now; at least take the time to use real words that reflect the amount of intelligence needed to enter a good pharmacy school. For all those who commented with a seemingly unbias viewpoint with valid remarks (such as location regarding jobs), thank you I truly appreciate the information. I understand the point that the job market is considered bad, but look at other career fields in comparison right now; lawyers, multiple variety of jobs related to real estate and other business centered organizations are all suffering currently. Yes, medical school can be considered an alternative to pharmacy school, but can any of you prove or provide legitimate evidence that it would be wiser to enter medical school than pharmacy school?

The best and most appropriate course of action you can take is to gain first hand experience of what the practice of pharmacy is really like. Spend a few weeks in a busy community/retail dispensary, watch and listen to the pharmacist. This will inform you very quickly whether or not this career is for you. It will help you to contextualise the above comments from pharmacists. Do the same for hospital and industry.

rph4now in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina

40 months ago

no no no no no jobs in Chicago, Illinois said: I will be selling drugs, in about a week, why should those gangbangers, AND CFO'S of WAGS. make all the money, why with all my post ed. ...why do I have to starve while these grammar school dropouts make ALL THE cash, tax-free, and bonuses. look out gov.org. you so long have not/don't care how much we have paid in blood,sweat and tears for our higher ed., now I know the rules...join (me and the others) we are going to scam and scram. all the way to the bank. HA. HA. HA

I'm in!!!! ALL THE WAY-tired of being screwed by the WAG "elite"...please tell me more.And by the way-the number one "RULE" is:There ARE NO RULES!!! "RULE" number two:See RULE NUMBER ONE!!!I am ready and waiting to "join"-AT ANY COST!And BTW-my "District Manager"(HA-HA) tells me that I'M the problem!!!!He gets a company car,makes $150,000/year,sits on his a** with no stress at all,makes his own hours(probably no more than 26-28 hours/week),has a WAG "company" credit card(I'm sure he never abuses it...), has the *alls to tell us how to practice pharmacy and got his "elite" position HOW??By STOCKING shelves of *hit for 3-5 years until he kissed enough *sses to land it by DEFAULT!!!OF COURSE HIS B.A. degree "trumps" a *ucking PROFESSIONAL DEGREE,i.e.RPh,Pharm D.PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

Southern California is experiencing a dramatic change in our pharmacy profession. Hospitals are cutting pharmacist hours and now are considering cutting staff. Per Diem work is drying up. Hospitals are dealing with low patient census. Most hospitals are at half capacity. New government regulations are forcing hospitals to refuse admissions and encourage rapid discharges because they are not going to get reimbursed for their services.
Pharmacy schools are loading down new grads with $150,000-$200,000 in student loans. And the new interest rate is fixed at 8.5%. That payment is $2800/month x 10 years! After taxes and student loans.. a pharmacist brings home $3000/month. We are so willing to work because we cant afford not too. There are still jobs in areas no one wants to work or live... But soon those will be full and then the wages should start to fall... and then pharmacy schools will be opening online.. like they are in Florida... and then we will make 25k an year like our techs.
Its coming... do your research.. become a physicians assistant.. 100k/yr and no loans. I found this blog by trying to research what is going on.. why we are getting our hours cut and why the hospitals are so empty!

thebigbang0011 in Burbank, California

40 months ago

USCgrad, where do you work if you don't mind me asking? Since you graduated in 2008 you should have a good job by now because that was still during the pharmacist shortage phase

thebigbang0011 in Burbank, California

40 months ago

id actually like to talk to you if u can email me thebigbang0011@gmail.com

kika in Tampa, Florida

40 months ago

I totaly agree with you, pharmacy it is changing drasticly, I'm a senior tech working in a major hospital, i was thinking pharmacy school but i realized I'm making 43k a year with no loans i think its a lot better than 110k with 150k worth of loans...

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California said: Southern California is experiencing a dramatic change in our pharmacy profession. Hospitals are cutting pharmacist hours and now are considering cutting staff. Per Diem work is drying up. Hospitals are dealing with low patient census. Most hospitals are at half capacity. New government regulations are forcing hospitals to refuse admissions and encourage rapid discharges because they are not going to get reimbursed for their services.
Pharmacy schools are loading down new grads with $150,000-$200,000 in student loans. And the new interest rate is fixed at 8.5%. That payment is $2800/month x 10 years! After taxes and student loans.. a pharmacist brings home $3000/month. We are so willing to work because we cant afford not too. There are still jobs in areas no one wants to work or live... But soon those will be full and then the wages should start to fall... and then pharmacy schools will be opening online.. like they are in Florida... and then we will make 25k an year like our techs.
Its coming... do your research.. become a physicians assistant.. 100k/yr and no loans. I found this blog by trying to research what is going on.. why we are getting our hours cut and why the hospitals are so empty!

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

It was easy to get a job after my residency.. and the hours were readily available... I worked two jobs.. 50-60 hr weeks.. trying to make the payments on my loans and still have a life. But now things have changed. I am working 32-35hr weeks at my "full time" job and 20 hours every six weeks at my per Diem job.
Most other hospitals are in trouble too. I can name a few... but it would get me into trouble. But lets just say both my jobs laid ppl off last year... and this year they told us in a meeting that we need to cut the budget by 10%. I have friends in other hospitals in other cities.. the news is the same. The reimbursement rules are changing. Hospitals are getting leaner and meaner... the new schools opening up in california. I believe it is now 12 or 13 schools. Each graduating a class of 130-200 new grads every year. The old guys cant retired b/c their 401k was cut in half by the stock market collapse and the equity in their home is down at least 30-40%. Read the writing on the wall! There either is or soon will be a shortage of pharmacist jobs. Do something else with your life. I am thinking about going to PA school

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

These are some of the changes that are coming to the field of pharmacy. If you are thinking about becoming a pharmacist you may want to look into this before you take the plunge. If you are a pharmacy student, you may want to look into a residency, fellowship or dual degree program.
*I am sure my recent graduate colleagues and my veteran pharmacist can attest the following is true...
Insurance companies are getting into the managed care business. They are offering incentive's for patients to get all of their medications through their mail order pharmacy. Fewer refills coming into your local pharmacy.
The pharmacy chain stores are lobbying your state board of pharmacy to change the pharmacist/technician ratio so that few pharmacist are needed to fill prescriptions. Large PBMs, hospitals, and government facilities are employing robots to fill scripts. (to the point that Kaiser has one pharmacist sitting at the end of a conveyor belt looking at a camera pointed into a filled bottle. He looks at the two photos and hits verify! 10,000 scripts a day!)
The government wants all the doctors to enter their own orders in the hospitals. Now you have 1 pharmacist reading all the entered orders and hitting verify. The meds are then made available via a remote medication dispensing machine on the floor. Currently pharmacists in Glendale can verify orders in 3 neighboring counties and the distant staff wont know the difference.
Graveyard shifts at multiple locations are all routed to a single pharmacist working remotely from his apartment. And then you add 1300 TO 2000 new California pharmacy grads every year, not to mention out of state grads returning home. It is about helping ppl.. but you need to worry about paying off your $160,000 to $200,000 loan. Everyone is out to turn this profession into a low tech job and you have the choice now to avoid a costly mistake! What will you do!

thebigbang0011 in Sunland, California

40 months ago

:(

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California

40 months ago

And for those of you under the delusion that we will fill the void in Ambulatory Care... Let me remind you that Coumadin is dying! 5 cost effective alternatives will soon be standard of care for the previous indications occupied by Coumadin. And pharmacist run anti-coagulation clinics will go the way of the Dodo bird.
As for the other niches hoping to be occupied by a pharmacist... why would you pay someone $125k/yr to do something a nurse, nurse practitioner or trained technician will do for $60k/yr.
And for those of you that are so making a living dosing and monitor dangerous/toxic medications in the hospital... You know its coming... vanco monitoring is going to be gone as soon as daptomycin, linezolid, Tygacil and Teflaro go generic. Heparin & Coumadin dosing will be gone soon. Xeralto, pradaxa and many others are pushing their way into our lives. How many hospitals will need an entire team of clinical pharmacists?
How many pharmacist will be needed in the PIT area processing orders? Doctors, physician assistants and nurse practitioners will be entering all the orders themselves. When every floor has a Pyxis machine is full and ready for instant delivery.. how many spots will there be left for those of use looking for work. Desperate souls groveling for work any shift available... using the money to feed the student loan beast! A slave to the system. Healthcare is entering a new era. Big banks loaning money to students that gets transferred to Universities in exchange for a degree which might get us a job working for the insurance company's scarce dollars.. so that we can repay the banks with 8.5% interest! All in the name of helping the patients.
I am never coming on here again.. it makes me sad

Former RX in Newport, Oregon

40 months ago

Glad I got out and joined the Army's Medical Core

thebigbang0011 in Burbank, California

40 months ago

usc2008, do you keep in contact with your classmates? what do they think about all of this?

thebigbang0011 in Burbank, California

40 months ago

hoapres - where is your proof that there was no shortage? i'm really curious because you seem to like conspiracies

the concerned pharmacist in Orange, California

40 months ago

USCgrad2008 in Pasadena, California said: Southern California is experiencing a dramatic change in our pharmacy profession. Hospitals are cutting pharmacist hours and now are considering cutting staff. Per Diem work is drying up. Hospitals are dealing with low patient census. Most hospitals are at half capacity. New government regulations are forcing hospitals to refuse admissions and encourage rapid discharges because they are not going to get reimbursed for their services.
Pharmacy schools are loading down new grads with $150,000-$200,000 in student loans. And the new interest rate is fixed at 8.5%. That payment is $2800/month x 10 years! After taxes and student loans.. a pharmacist brings home $3000/month. We are so willing to work because we cant afford not too. There are still jobs in areas no one wants to work or live... But soon those will be full and then the wages should start to fall... and then pharmacy schools will be opening online.. like they are in Florida... and then we will make 25k an year like our techs.
Its coming... do your research.. become a physicians assistant.. 100k/yr and no loans. I found this blog by trying to research what is going on.. why we are getting our hours cut and why the hospitals are so empty!

Very true and very disheartening!

Hello 12 in Glasgow, United Kingdom

40 months ago

I have the FPGEE and just applied for five intern jobs in the past 3 weeks. I have received 5 interviews and have been offered all 5 jobs as very well paid interns positions. Now I have to choose which one.

I also own a herd of pigs, have just fed and watered them, fitted plastic wings to their backs and they are now ready to fly and fly.

I think the Pharmacy schools should now start printing the degree certificates on toilet paper because at least they will be able to be used for something useful then.

Pharmacy as a career is as dead as a DoDo :,-(

Rph_intheCorn in Fort Madison, Iowa

39 months ago

Jennie in Ireland said: remember the pharmacist is the first healthcare professional that people will come to seek advice from..a pharmacist should have pride in their knowledge and capacity to inform and advise. For those who think it more than pill counting, which it should be, they will succeed no matter what. and although a huge wage would be nice, it should not be the only reason to do a degree in something, one should have the aim of enhancing the profession, not belittling it

Thanks for your optimism in this climate of hopelessness. Pharmacy is indeed a great body of knowledge that we should each be proud of. For those who gave a thumbs down, read this again and see that she is just trying to aim for enhancing the profession.
Maybe there is a silver lining in the cloud!

Jenny CPhT in Salt Lake City, Utah

39 months ago

OK So I work as a pharmacy tech and I really like it. I decided I wanted to go back to school to get a PharmD. The biggest reason for this is because my husband is 10 years older than me (I'm 35) and doesn't make a lot $$ (about 40K) and has no degree, and doesn't want to go back to school. We have 3 daughters (14, 12 & 10) and I would love to be able to pay for nice weddings, high school dances, cars, and of course their college education, and with me making $12 an hour (my CPhT rate after 1 year exp) and his salary, those things are going to be hard to provide. Anyway I am just starting out my 1st year of prereqs (chem, bio & math) and have already racked up about $4K in student loans. After reading this, to say I'm REALLY scared is an understatement. My husband says he has a friend who is a pharmaceutical rep and she told him the need for pharmacists is going to drastically rise, she told him something like 60,000 pharmacists needed. So he doesn't think I have any reason to worry, he thinks as soon as I graduate w/PharmD I'll have offers left and right. And to tell you the truth, I'm worried about even getting accepted because I only have about 3.2 GPA. I would try nursing, but I am very squeamish about blood and doubt I would even be able to give a shot. Am I screwed? Should I stick with it, or get out now and just keep plugging away as a tech @25K a year? (For that matter I also have med transcription exp and I can make $13-15 an hour doing that staying home, but the reason I decided to get a CPhT is because again with automation ever increasing, MT's are also becoming obsolete, replaced by "medical editors" who are 75% of the time from out of the US, working for about half the pay rate. :(((

IIIIII in Los Angeles, California

39 months ago

^ get into becoming a physician assistant before you screw yourself.

pharmacistbyday in Fort Worth, Texas

39 months ago

hardwrkrphNJ in absecon, New Jersey said: You cannot get a job in pharmacy unless you have a pharmd and clinical experience.I really want to get into the federal govnt working short term gigs but I cannot seem to it is worse than finding a retail job in NJ.The only way to get these Federal jobs is go through an agency and that is the pits.The agency never calls back and once they hear you have no experience they drop you like a hot potatoe.If someone knows how to get a travelling Federal job please tell me

Nonsense. I have a BS degree in Pharmacy and have worked closed door pharmacy and hospital pharmacy with no problems

Useless_RPh_NJ in Florence, New Jersey

39 months ago

pharmacistbyday in Fort Worth, Texas said: Nonsense. I have a BS degree in Pharmacy and have worked closed door pharmacy and hospital pharmacy with no problems

Hey pharmacistbyday,
Have you recently lived in New Jersey to claim "Nonsense"? I think not! Texas still has many pharmacists jobs open, but this is not so in New Jersey. The RX Insider is rubbish, never have I ever received a response from posted websites and jobs. I live in NJ and have 13 years experience in retail, 6 hospital and 10 pharmaceutical industry in medical information/communication. I've been looking and begging for a job for over a year now. NOTHiNG, NADDA, ZILCH. And by the way, this has nothing to do with anyone going to pharmacy school or whatever. I'm in this forum because I can't find a job. Hoping someone has good information and insight that i can use.
useless

1968 charger in Princeton, Minnesota

39 months ago

I live in MN. Job market here is also bad. I have worked hospital, retail, and ltc over the years. Have been at it for 20 years now. Things have changed and not for the better. I think the PBMs were the first tough blow to our profession. Economic decline (crash) in 2008 and the increase in grads has put pharmacy in a game changing position. Pay has already declined and work conditions in retail are not good. My last shift I worked 12 hours on my feet without a break. I will only be paid for 10 of those hours as well. to bring forward to mgmt would result in losing my job. I have already started to look for another career. 46 years old makes that a challenge. One of my children showed an interest in pharmacy. I will not allow it.

ladybug in Evergreen Park, Illinois

38 months ago

We really need to start thinking outside the box. Can you imagine what pharmacy is going to be like if pharmacists are not filling the prescriptions. The pharmacy is completely run by techs. It could happen from the looks of things. What are the pharmacists going to be doing? Pharmacists will be working in doctors' offices. Pharmacists will get the diagnosis from the docs and come up with a medication plan, write the prescriptions and hand it to the patient. The patient will take it to the corner drugstore and it will be filled by techs. Of course the techs will then have heightened responsibilities. They will have to start carrying liability insurance for the mistakes they will make. Techs will have to learn more about the medicine than they know now. The drug interactions will be caught by pharmacists before the script is even written. In hospitals, the pharmacists wont be in the pharmacy, they will be making rounds with doctors.

Eddie101 in Chicago, Illinois

38 months ago

ladybug in Evergreen Park, Illinois said: We really need to start thinking outside the box. Can you imagine what pharmacy is going to be like if pharmacists are not filling the prescriptions. The pharmacy is completely run by techs. It could happen from the looks of things. What are the pharmacists going to be doing? Pharmacists will be working in doctors' offices. Pharmacists will get the diagnosis from the docs and come up with a medication plan, write the prescriptions and hand it to the patient.

Really...And then you woke up? Not to be sarcastic about your dreams and hopes but this will never happen. Realistically, this is not in the cards, my fellow pharmacist. Doctors will continue to make the drug decisions and pharmacists simply won't exist in the future. They will be replaced by automation..so sad but true. We all just need to re-train and learn a new skill because a PharmD, in this day and age, is like the horse and buggy. We all know the horse and buggy were replaced by cars. Re-train and get started on a new career! I hope I'm wrong but this seems to be the trend, my friends.

JulieSyn in New York, New York

38 months ago

Has anyone heard about UCSF's robotic pharmacy? It looks like it gets rid of a lot of subspecialties within pharmacy: clinical pharmacist, nuclear pharmacist, oncology pharmacist and if adjusted could also easily replace retail pharmacists.

Look at this link with video of the robot:
medgadget.com/2011/03/a_look_at_ucsfs_robotic_pharmacist.html

Some say it will "change" the role of pharmacists as they would focus more on talking to patients about their meds instead...seems a little redundant. (nurses/doctors already do that without the added "expense" of pharmacist, right) I don't know, what does everyone think?

Page:  « Previous   1  2  3  4  5  6  Next »   Last »

» Sign in or create an account to comment on this topic.