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WONGJAMES1823@YAHOO.COM in Rowlett, Texas

38 months ago

IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE ARTICLE-LOOKS LIKE OUR WHOLE SO CALL PROFESSION IS BEING REPLACED.IMAGINE WHAT THE CHAINS WITH A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT,CAN CUT THE 100000 DOLLARS SALARY OF A CHECKER.LOOKING WORST THEN EVER FOR THIS FIELD AS MORE AND MORE KIDS ARE GRADUATING.WHERE ARE THE JOBS AND JUSTIFICATION FOR THE SALARY AS OF NOW ?WHEN AUTOMATION AND TECHS ARE PLAYING MORE AND MORE ROLE IN THE DISPENSING AREA.WHO REALLY NEEDS US,MAYBE CHAINS WILL EMPLOY ONE PHARMACIST PER 14 SHIFTS TO FILL 500 PRESCRIPTIONS SINCE OUR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION ARE STANDING FOR US.

nadzzzzz in North Brunswick, New Jersey

38 months ago

holmes in River Grove, Illinois said: Do not believe some of the lies being written here regarding lack of job opportunities for pharmacists. These liars are trying to scare people off from applying to pharmacy school because they fear that supply will overtake demand. Fact is, pharmacists make tons of money right out of school and there are and will be many job openings in the future. This is all just a feeble attempt to prevent people from entering this lucrative field. Liars!

you're very sweet. i just got into pharmacy school and everything i have been reading really scared me.. thank you :)

andhow in Lake Elsinore, California

38 months ago

nadzzzzz in North Brunswick, New Jersey said: you're very sweet. i just got into pharmacy school and everything i have been reading really scared me.. thank you :)

Read the very first post in this string. I wouln't take comfort in that old broken record.

lookin very hard in Boca Raton, Florida

38 months ago

pharmacistbyday in Fort Worth, Texas said: Nonsense. I have a BS degree in Pharmacy and have worked closed door pharmacy and hospital pharmacy with no problems

ok...are there any jobs available where you work?

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey

38 months ago

I have been begging for work for months. I will take ANY pharmacist job out there. there isnt anything. I have spoken with recruiters. Please someone help me get work. I will work any shift, any holiday, in the ghetto, whatever it takes. Please hire me if you can or offer suggestions. I live in NJ just outside of Philadelphia. I have been looking for work in NJ, PA, NY, and DE for a year. I apply to any and every pharmacist posting there is.

Avoid this profession if you can.

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

38 months ago

Michael I recently had to leave a job( in the Shore area) it was part time but the management was wonderful and i really enjoyed the job. The company was kmart if you go to the website look for an opening around the Wildwood/Rio Grande area. Good luck

norphjob in Boca Raton, Florida

38 months ago

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey said: I have been begging for work for months. I will take ANY pharmacist job out there. there isnt anything. I have spoken with recruiters. Please someone help me get work. I will work any shift, any holiday, in the ghetto, whatever it takes. Please hire me if you can or offer suggestions. I live in NJ just outside of Philadelphia. I have been looking for work in NJ, PA, NY, and DE for a year. I apply to any and every pharmacist posting there is.

Avoid this profession if you can.

me too!!ill go anywhere!!!!!

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey

38 months ago

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey said: Michael I recently had to leave a job( in the Shore area) it was part time but the management was wonderful and i really enjoyed the job. The company was kmart if you go to the website look for an opening around the Wildwood/Rio Grande area. Good luck

hardwrkrph do you have any names or people I can contact directly? I went to the website but there was no job posted. Is there any way I can contact you directly? Thank you!!!!!

I cannot tell you how difficult this is.

norphjob in Boca Raton, Florida

38 months ago

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey said: hardwrkrph do you have any names or people I can contact directly? I went to the website but there was no job posted. Is there any way I can contact you directly? Thank you!!!!!

I cannot tell you how difficult this is.

yes you can,i'm in the same boat...clean record and clean background and noone wants me!!!

Amherst Healthcare in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

37 months ago

Hi,
I have a need for a hospital experienced pharmacist with a NY license. Must have Hospital experience. This is a contract to perm position. The hours are Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm. The rate isn't glamorous, but you can't bee the hours. If qualified and interested, please forward me a resume via my email address at iinokon@AmherstHealthcare (dot) com

Amherst Healthcare in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

37 months ago

Amherst Healthcare in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: Hi,
I have a need for a hospital experienced pharmacist with a NY license. Must have Hospital experience. This is a contract to perm position. The hours are Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm. The rate isn't glamorous, but you can't bee the hours. If qualified and interested, please forward me a resume via my email address at iinokon@AmherstHealthcare (dot) com

I meant to say that you can't beat the hours! Sorry for the typo:)

Dada in Largo, Florida

37 months ago

About 30 years ago,that would be in about 1980, the retail phamacy organizations imagined a major expansion in pharmacies as major players expanded. Clinical organizations viewed also a major expansion in new and imagined clinical roles for pharmacist. In response schools increased, programs increased and the push was on. Advance 30 years to 2010. The recession stopped the planned massive expansion, and retail organizations are shrinking and jobs are just not there. Introduce technology and mail order and machines filling most prescriptions. The clinical options are just not in the order first thought. Thus hospitals have no interest in training retail pharmacists and little interest in new graduates, and in fact there are not jobs for new graduates. Today is a new world in pharmacy.

Farmacist in Burlington, Iowa

37 months ago

Dada in Largo, Florida said: About 30 years ago,that would be in about 1980, the retail phamacy organizations imagined a major expansion in pharmacies as major players expanded. Clinical organizations viewed also a major expansion in new and imagined clinical roles for pharmacist. In response schools increased, programs increased and the push was on. Advance 30 years to 2010. The recession stopped the planned massive expansion, and retail organizations are shrinking and jobs are just not there. Introduce technology and mail order and machines filling most prescriptions. The clinical options are just not in the order first thought. Thus hospitals have no interest in training retail pharmacists and little interest in new graduates, and in fact there are not jobs for new graduates. Today is a new world in pharmacy.

Clinical Pharmacy has not progressed. Why? Is it because you cannot separate diagnosis and prescribing? Maybe that is why NP's and PA's can prescribe. Medicine does not want PharmD's for clinical consultations unless it is quick and free. The natural place for a clinical drug consultant would be a medical clinic. Instead, medical specialties hire RN's to run clinics, and they are the ones who gain special drug knowledge in their field. Maybe nurse wages play a large part. Today's PharmD has no more authority than any BS RPh from 30 years ago.

If you want to practice in a clinical setting, pick a different field.

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey

37 months ago

Can I apply for a job as a pharmacy technician if I am a licensed pharmacist? I cannot get a job as a pharmacist so maybe a job as a technician again?

norphjob in Boca Raton, Florida

37 months ago

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey said: Can I apply for a job as a pharmacy technician if I am a licensed pharmacist? I cannot get a job as a pharmacist so maybe a job as a technician again?

if you do AND YOU GET HIRED,LET US KNOW...MAYBE THERE IS SOME HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NewPharm222 in Washington, District of Columbia

37 months ago

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey said: Can I apply for a job as a pharmacy technician if I am a licensed pharmacist? I cannot get a job as a pharmacist so maybe a job as a technician again?

You can but there are a few legal issues because you have to have a pharmacy tech license. If your tech license is still active I guess it won't be a problem. It also depends on what your state allows. I have applied for some but no luck. As the person above me said, let us know if you get one.

yardleyed in Morrisville, Pennsylvania

37 months ago

Pharmacy job market will take another jolt in June as hordes of new pharmacists swell the ranks, fresh from the money hungry schools! We have not seen the end of the saturation. Dinosaur Pharmacists over 45 watch out! New and agile job hungry youngsters will be on your tail!! Better learn how to speed up or ship out!!

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

37 months ago

i cannot find anything still. i checked on the work as a pharmacy tech and that is a no go apparently.

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

37 months ago

This is really a bad comment one day youll be a "dinosaur pharmacist" so what exactly do you think youll do? We have several new graduates that cannot find jobs so being a fresh new pharmacist does mean employers will be panting for your arrival.Dont you think we should all be working together to secure the future for everyone instead being so callous to focus on one segment of the pharmacy population(ie new graduates)?

Michael in Clementon, New Jersey

37 months ago

i am with you hardwrk. are you on facebook? us NJ folk should try to work together.

hangv001 in Katy, Texas

37 months ago

Hi, i'm currently a freshman in college and will be graduating in 2016. Will there be any need for pharmacists in the houston, TX area 6 years from now or should i switch to medicine or nursing. Please help me because i don't want to waste my hard earn money on pharmacy school. Also, what about speech therapist, is there any shortage for that? If it helps, i've taken ASL for 3 years and know alot about deaf culture, i do not want to become an interpreter though.

LetsMakeItWork in New Providence, New Jersey

37 months ago

Hello, please follow this blog. I am a new graduate myself and I would like to find a solution to this issue. If anyone is interested in ideas for collaboration, please let me know. Maybe we could redefine what pharmacists do. www.tumblr.com/blog/pharmacistjobsearch

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

hangv001 in Katy, Texas said: Hi, i'm currently a freshman in college and will be graduating in 2016. Will there be any need for pharmacists in the houston, TX area 6 years from now or should i switch to medicine or nursing. Please help me because i don't want to waste my hard earn money on pharmacy school. Also, what about speech therapist, is there any shortage for that? If it helps, i've taken ASL for 3 years and know alot about deaf culture, i do not want to become an interpreter though.

Hi HangV001,
Well I graduated in 2010 from the university of Iowa. Go Hawks. I wanted to work retail since all I have been doing was hospital/interned at the VA medical center. I was willing to relocate to either Iowa, Illinois, Colorado, or texas. I applied and I got job offers from iowa, illinois, and texas from various pharmacy chains, and grociers.

I got a offer in Tx I couldn't refuse with a sign on bonus and relocation bonus. I also got sign on bonus offers from other companies in illinois and iowa. I'm not a person who switches jobs often, I love stability so I researched the companies benefits and picked the one that I wanted to retire with, 'hopefully', in the end.

I like mid size and small towns. Thankfully most jobs are in rural/growing areas. I got a job in a mid size town. My g/f who followed me also got a job at the hospital here as a pharmacist, she was also a new grad, she got hired because she is a hard worker and showed to her employer she goes above and beyond--they have never hired a new grad before and she told me they have an additional spot open but have turned down a lot of new grads applying because of bad interviewing and not professional and arrogant. She learned quickly and does a great job, now to my next point....

My g/f is a city girl. She wants to move to a big city. I agreed to move to houston after my contract. Moving all the way to a small-mid size town of humble and polite people has many benefits. part 1/2

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

Hi HangV001,
Well I graduated in 2010 from the university of Iowa. Go Hawks. I wanted to work retail since all I have been doing was hospital/interned at the VA medical center. I was willing to relocate to either Iowa, Illinois, Colorado, or texas. I applied and I got job offers from iowa, illinois, and texas from various pharmacy chains, and grociers.

I got a offer in Tx I couldn't refuse with a sign on bonus and relocation bonus. I also got sign on bonus offers from other companies in illinois and iowa. I'm not a person who switches jobs often, I love stability so I researched the companies benefits and picked the one that I wanted to retire with, 'hopefully', in the end.

I like mid size and small towns. Thankfully most jobs are in rural/growing areas. I got a job in a mid size town. My g/f who followed me also got a job at the hospital here as a pharmacist, she was also a new grad, she got hired because she is a hard worker and showed to her employer she goes above and beyond--they have never hired a new grad before and she told me they have an additional spot open but have turned down a lot of new grads applying because of bad interviewing and not professional and arrogant. She learned quickly and does a great job, now to my next point....

My g/f is a city girl. She wants to move to a big city. I agreed to move to houston after my contract. Moving all the way to a small-mid size town of humble and polite people has many benefits. part 1/2

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

some of the benefits-never had to pay for a car wash since the 2 years I was here, thanks to my great patients owning car washes, my patients also own restaurants, are doctors, I see them all around town all the time, and all I do is be a great pharmacist to them. Some patients bring in doughnuts to the pharmacy every time they stop by or buy the pharmacy lunch. Small communities are not always a bad thing compared to the city.

You move here for the company, the company knows you are helping them out in an area where they need pharmacists, they will help you out when you are ready to transfer if you are a good pharmacist. I told my DM i wanted to move to houston because of my girl. He recommended me to the DM in Houston, of course he really didn't want me to leave and was a jackass about it at first like all DMs are, but he's a good guy, and told the other DM I was his #2 pharmacist in his whole district out of 16 stores (24-34 pharmacists?). After a phone interview and small writing process I was offered a job in houston for my transfer.

The good thing about going to a smaller area before the city is...you get a higher rate of pay, you keep your higher rate of pay when you transfer to another area like the city, so i'll be making more then the person who applied and got a job in that area. I verified this with friends who transferred to other cities as well. My g/f got 2 years of hospital experience and can apply to jobs in houston, she already had interviews, a couple weeks after applying.My 6 figure loan will be paidoff soon(1yr)

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

I also applied to all sorts of jobs as plan B. I had phone interviews with 2 companies. The jobs are there. Be professional, be humble, work hard for your money or someone else will. There are plenty of people who are happy to work hard for a pharmacist salary. I do my job + the jobs of my techs, I help out where help is needed. I don't stay in one spot and verify all day, i do drop off,insurance,register,production. i do over 2000/wk

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

37 months ago

iowa hawk, you are in texas which has always been a state with a higher demand; however that is changing.

the jobs are not there and will not be there in the future.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: iowa hawk, you are in texas which has always been a state with a higher demand; however that is changing.

the jobs are not there and will not be there in the future.

Well that is more of a problem for people who switch jobs a lot/quit a lot/ or get fired a lot. If you don't like your job, customer service, or supervisor and can't learn to cope with it then you won't last long in any job. The job market is not saturated now, and the future is unpredictable. I predict there will be more pharmacist job openings to accomodate the increase in pharmacists. There was a study done in like 2009 that estimated by 2020 pharmacy retail jobs would shrink and hospital jobs would expand,however, I think its all BS and just another way to get students to do residencies and make it mandatory for pharmacy students to do residencies in the near future just like med school, just like how they are pushing students to have a 4 year degree to even apply to pharmacy school, that will also cut the # of applicants. The dean at our school who is from new jersey rutgers and who was one of the first residency students in california told us in several years residencies will be mandatory and there won't be a choice, thus turning a 4 year program into a 6 year program which will delay students from graduating and create residencies at places such as the hospital, retail, and producing residency jobs.

I want to be in an area with higher demand for pharmacy jobs. That means higher salaries. I'm in the top 10% of salaried pharmacists in the US. It's always been known that the south and southwest states are in need of pharmacists, it's been like that since 2006 or earlier. If people are in saturated places with high competition and can't land a job, it's time for them to move and find a less competitive area or better yourself with experience or more education in the position you are seeking.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

also the demographics of pharmacists are changing from an all white male profession to female and minorities. All you have to do is look at the graduating class pictures of say a pharmacist school in houston and see there is going to be a lot more diverse pharmacists. Female and minorities I think experience poverty/prejadice of some form in there life and will work a lot harder in their profession with fewer complaints.

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

37 months ago

I dont know if what you wrote is really truthful about women and minorities especially if you look at the upper management at most chains and etc, they are stillthe old boy network and they are very resistance to change. Ive been on this website for at least a year and 1/2 and quite a few women are still unemployed. I also think that once again someone from the pharmacy education dept is writing untruth about pharmacy being saturated(yes it is!!!)Yes I relocated to find a job but Im lucky b/c I can,it is incredibly hard to tell someone to relocate their whole family and Im working with several people who also relocated for a job.This is the second time Ive packed up and moved to greenier pastures and it tore me apart to leave love ones behind so maybe you should be a bit more understanding about making that statement. I know what it is like not working and still trying to survive so until you ve been in that position maybe it is better not to be so quick with the judgements.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey said: I dont know if what you wrote is really truthful about women and minorities especially if you look at the upper management at most chains and etc, they are stillthe old boy network and they are very resistance to change. Ive been on this website for at least a year and 1/2 and quite a few women are still unemployed. I also think that once again someone from the pharmacy education dept is writing untruth about pharmacy being saturated(yes it is!!!)Yes I relocated to find a job but Im lucky b/c I can,it is incredibly hard to tell someone to relocate their whole family and Im working with several people who also relocated for a job.This is the second time Ive packed up and moved to greenier pastures and it tore me apart to leave love ones behind so maybe you should be a bit more understanding about making that statement. I know what it is like not working and still trying to survive so until you ve been in that position maybe it is better not to be so quick with the judgements.

you gotta move after graduation...you can''t just graduate and work in an area where you're school is located. All my familiy is in iowa and illinois, i go back to visit them at least twice a year, i have a right to make any statement. And I'll never let myself be in a position where i am jobless. I had at least 1 or 2 jobs since I turned 14, never been unemployed since. I know about survival because i came from the housing projects/drug dealers/and crime. Don't tell me about survival lol. I was the first one to go to a university in my family. I will never understand how someone can be unemployed for longer then a month.

Pharmd17 in Fall River, Massachusetts

37 months ago

Someone explain to me then why the u.s new report ranked pharmacist #3 best job based on job satisfaction and job availability for the future ????

Dada in Seminole, Florida

37 months ago

There is a program started in the 1960's to flood the market with pharmacists. This was pushed by the people that employed pharmacists. They supported the program via support of publications,organizations,politics,schools and guides and anything in print or speach. Also to create the belief that there was a hugh shortage and that work conditions, etc were great. I only post here not to discourage anyone but to at least for those to beware. I find it is a tragedy to make a hugh investment in time and money to no purpose. This program is why there is such a sharp contrast between what we actually see in the real world work place vs what we read in publications and hear at school.

Brian in Dublin, Ireland

37 months ago

Dada in Seminole, Florida said: There is a program started in the 1960's to flood the market with pharmacists. This was pushed by the people that employed pharmacists. They supported the program via support of publications,organizations,politics,schools and guides and anything in print or speach. Also to create the belief that there was a hugh shortage and that work conditions, etc were great. I only post here not to discourage anyone but to at least for those to beware. I find it is a tragedy to make a hugh investment in time and money to no purpose. This program is why there is such a sharp contrast between what we actually see in the real world work place vs what we read in publications and hear at school.

And that nicely encapsulates my own thoughts on this profession. I spent years attaining clinical knowledge and yet feel the actual manifestation of the job is a relegation to a prescription pusher with doctors very rarely, if ever,consulting me. This is quite apart form the stress, working conditions, sharp drop in remuneration etc.

shampson in Clementon, New Jersey

37 months ago

yardleyed in Morrisville, Pennsylvania said: Pharmacy job market will take another jolt in June as hordes of new pharmacists swell the ranks, fresh from the money hungry schools! We have not seen the end of the saturation. Dinosaur Pharmacists over 45 watch out! New and agile job hungry youngsters will be on your tail!! Better learn how to speed up or ship out!!

I am over 45 and had to go on diability. I kept up but my body didnt. I told my boss of my illnes and unfortunately this was the first nail in the coffing of my pharmacy career. I thought that since I was a good pharmacist with a good record this would make a difference. The corporations have taken over the proffession. I want to get off disability eventually but I will not go back to chain pharmacy. I told my kids to be entrepreneurs, this is the only way as far as I am concerned. Pharmacist will have to unionize if we want to save our proffession.

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

37 months ago

shampson, I am so sorry to hear that! Where are you located? I am right near you! There is no union coming.

shampson in Clementon, New Jersey

37 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: shampson, I am so sorry to hear that! Where are you located? I am right near you! There is no union coming.

I live in Edgewater Park. I have worked for 23 years. 13 years at Rite Aid. ( I left because I was 37 years old and pregnant and they would not offer me anything but 12 hour shifts) and at Acme- which was great at first then was bought out by Supervalu. I had mulitple problems after the birth of my son. I thought since I had a good record and my store made money, I would be given consideration. When I told my boss about my illness and asked to have a technician on my 10 hours Saturdays I was told I could if I would take the tech hours away from my partner pharmacist. This was my company's idea of an accomadation. Since we have no union I was on my own. After this I was written up 5 times. If I was a few minutes late I was written up. I have a very painful arthritic condition. On one instance my son had a life threatening asthma attack. I have a friend who is negotiating accomadations for her illness, she has the teacher
s union behind her. I think that as far as pharmacist residences are concerned, instead of just clinical pharamacy, there should be practical simple diagnostic training and triaging patients. I think it would behoove healthcare if the proffessions of physician assistant and pharmacist were combined. A doctors office could have a pharmacist working along side of doctors and nurses. In a community setting minor illness could be treated. In old times the apothecary was the poor mans doctor. I believe that this system was better than what we have now
If you dont have insurance you are sol. We need to have some guts. I hate to get into bed with our nemesis insurance companies, but since so much cost could be contained this way they would be on board, and people would get more of the care they need.

Mikegroceryrph

37 months ago

Pharmd17 in Fall River, Massachusetts said: Someone explain to me then why the u.s new report ranked pharmacist #3 best job based on job satisfaction and job availability for the future ????

Its simple the authors dont understand the business behind pharmacy. 4$drugs expressscipts now has 40% control of insurance claims. Walgreens has shortened there hours at multiple locations. New phRmacies that opendont make money. Its obvious the public thinks more drug more pharmacists r needed. But that statement isnt true. Companies will dispense more rxs but will employee more technology not more pharmacist. Sorry for typos im on andriod.

jaydawk jaydawk in H-town, Texas

37 months ago

i get paid 126,600 a year--top 10%. I only paid back $46 in taxes

jaydawk jaydawk in H-town, Texas

37 months ago

jaydawk jaydawk in H-town, Texas said: i get paid 126,600 a year--top 10%. I only paid back $46 in taxes

errr typo I meant $129,600. Staff pharmacist.

thuy in San Diego, California

37 months ago

hii

Bloop in San Diego, California

37 months ago

If this goes through I want to say DARN system, I wrote this 5 times before I could submit it.

So I have a friend, her uncle went to UCSF, worked at Rite Aid for 20 years. They found a silly excuse to fire him (he opened a water bottle to drink before he paid and they fired him. He INTENDED TO PAY). He went out and tried to open his own private pharmacy but it hasn't been doing well with business.

I used to be pre-pharm but then I did my extensive research. If you are passionate about pharmacy then by all means by I wasn't THAT crazy about it and I did LOTS of personal research. With this sample I concluded that:

a) he went to UCSF. the best school.
b) he had 20 years of experience.

...and this STILL happened to him.

So if you are a graduate and you are lucky to get a job right out of school. Where will you be in 10, 15, 20 years? Retails want to get rid of their older employees to hire cheaper grads. With $4 prescriptions you can pretty much wave good bye to your own private pharmacy because competition will most likely be against you.

If you are pursuing clinical that's an addition 1-2 years of residency, and its harder to land a clinical job than retail.

just my personal penny for thought. hope it helps!

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

Bloop in San Diego, California said: If this goes through I want to say DARN system, I wrote this 5 times before I could submit it.

So I have a friend, her uncle went to UCSF, worked at Rite Aid for 20 years. They found a silly excuse to fire him (he opened a water bottle to drink before he paid and they fired him. He INTENDED TO PAY). He went out and tried to open his own private pharmacy but it hasn't been doing well with business.

I used to be pre-pharm but then I did my extensive research. If you are passionate about pharmacy then by all means by I wasn't THAT crazy about it and I did LOTS of personal research. With this sample I concluded that:

a) he went to UCSF. the best school.
b) he had 20 years of experience.

...and this STILL happened to him.

So if you are a graduate and you are lucky to get a job right out of school. Where will you be in 10, 15, 20 years? Retails want to get rid of their older employees to hire cheaper grads. With $4 prescriptions you can pretty much wave good bye to your own private pharmacy because competition will most likely be against you.

If you are pursuing clinical that's an addition 1-2 years of residency, and its harder to land a clinical job than retail.

just my personal penny for thought. hope it helps!

That's called stealing. :) I hate people who go into places and start chuggin' down drinks before they pay. Where are there manners.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

Bloop in San Diego, California said: If this goes through I want to say DARN system, I wrote this 5 times before I could submit it.

So I have a friend, her uncle went to UCSF, worked at Rite Aid for 20 years. They found a silly excuse to fire him (he opened a water bottle to drink before he paid and they fired him. He INTENDED TO PAY). He went out and tried to open his own private pharmacy but it hasn't been doing well with business.

I used to be pre-pharm but then I did my extensive research. If you are passionate about pharmacy then by all means by I wasn't THAT crazy about it and I did LOTS of personal research. With this sample I concluded that:

a) he went to UCSF. the best school.
b) he had 20 years of experience.

...and this STILL happened to him.

So if you are a graduate and you are lucky to get a job right out of school. Where will you be in 10, 15, 20 years? Retails want to get rid of their older employees to hire cheaper grads. With $4 prescriptions you can pretty much wave good bye to your own private pharmacy because competition will most likely be against you.

If you are pursuing clinical that's an addition 1-2 years of residency, and its harder to land a clinical job than retail.

just my personal penny for thought. hope it helps!

Also, new Grads usually get paid more then the older pharmacists sign on/moving bonus incentives....it's opposite in pharmacy profession. I probably get paid more then my preceptors that I had on rotations and who have done residencies. Residency there is no $ incentive. I get paid more then my friend who did 2 years in residency and works a clinical spot at a hospital doing chemo/hemoc.

bloop in La Jolla, California

37 months ago

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas said: Also, new Grads usually get paid more then the older pharmacists sign on/moving bonus incentives....it's opposite in pharmacy profession. I probably get paid more then my preceptors that I had on rotations and who have done residencies. Residency there is no $ incentive. I get paid more then my friend who did 2 years in residency and works a clinical spot at a hospital doing chemo/hemoc.

but you are in Texas which is very rich in job openings and I am in southern Cali. Its competitive here and retails are cutting back on their generous signing bonuses because they no longer need to provide that extra incentive to recruit pharmacists. Its over saturated here so the employers now have the upper hand

bloop in La Jolla, California

37 months ago

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas said: That's called stealing. :) I hate people who go into places and start chuggin' down drinks before they pay. Where are there manners.

but he isn't just a customer, he has worked there for 20 years. If anything the pharmacy should at least be providing their employees with free water....

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

bloop in La Jolla, California said: but you are in Texas which is very rich in job openings and I am in southern Cali. Its competitive here and retails are cutting back on their generous signing bonuses because they no longer need to provide that extra incentive to recruit pharmacists. Its over saturated here so the employers now have the upper hand

Our graduating class at the university of iowa pharmacy school is close to 99% placement after graduation for jobs and 100% pass rate on law/national exams. Maybe we are just on a different level of thinking.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

bloop in La Jolla, California said: but he isn't just a customer, he has worked there for 20 years. If anything the pharmacy should at least be providing their employees with free water....

Nothing is free, someone pays. They do have free water it's called the tap water in the pharmacy or distilled water in the pharmacy from the sink. I drink it when I need to.

iowa hawk in San Angelo, Texas

37 months ago

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Bloop in San Diego, California said: If this goes through I want to say DARN system, I wrote this 5 times before I could submit it.

So I have a friend, her uncle went to UCSF, worked at Rite Aid for 20 years. They found a silly excuse to fire him (he opened a water bottle to drink before he paid and they fired him. He INTENDED TO PAY). He went out and tried to open his own private pharmacy but it hasn't been doing well with business.
I used to be pre-pharm but then I did my extensive research. If you are passionate about pharmacy then by all means by I wasn't THAT crazy about it and I did LOTS of personal research. With this sample I concluded that:
a) he went to UCSF. the best school.
b) he had 20 years of experience.

...and this STILL happened to him.

So if you are a graduate and you are lucky to get a job right out of school. Where will you be in 10, 15, 20 years? Retails want to get rid of their older employees to hire cheaper grads. With $4 prescriptions you can pretty much wave good bye to your own private pharmacy because competition will most likely be against you.
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Also when you first open a pharmacy you are not going to see great profit unless you are in a great location or next to a walgreens/cvs. Most independent pharmacies take about 5 years before they build up a substantial patient base. The successful owners can make up to 200k in salary, you have to put in the time and effort.

The only pharmacy that offers $4 dollar generics is WALMART. Have you ever filled at Walmart? Patients would rather stab themselves in the eye before they wait for a prescription at walmart. I do the most transfers from walmart, even if patients have to pay 5-10 dollars more they gladly switch to someone that can get their prescriptions out faster than 3-4 hours if they had to wait

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

37 months ago

mass pharm, you need to realize the market where you are or what Iowa is (iowa is definitely better than here) is much different from one place to another. I have offered to work for less. There aren't positions in the state I am in. The pharmacists in my state have a very tough time finding any sort of work including per diem. You would think applying per diem jobs with experience wouldn't be a problem, but it is here.

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