Salary for full time home health PTA (TX)

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Hex

26 months ago

El Pta im looking to make a career change here in el paso to pta and just wanted to see what pay and benefits were like.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

Hi everyone,I started home health 5 mths. ago after 18 yrs. of acute care.I am working directly for a P.T.who works for the homecare co.I am wondering what a fair salary would be? I see about 20 pts./wk.All fairly local.Thanks,looking forward to getting feed back.

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

18 months ago

AG 2803,

I have only heard of a few salary positions for PTA's in home health so I can't give feedback with any certainty. I can say through experience that per visit rates can range from as low as $28 to upwards of $55. I've seen an average per visit rate of $45 lately so taking that annually would get you around 43k. Salary will be a bit different though because it is guaranteed, while the patient load will likely change regularly. Often PT's are paid salary with a "minimum" visit quota per week. The primary advantage for salary would be consistent pay. The greatest disadvantage can also be the same if that makes sense (you get $1,600 bi-weekly if you see 20 or 26 patients). You get paid the same whether you go over or under the agreed weekly visit rate. I would imagine that most companies would have a bonus/surplus pay if you exceed a certain number of visits though. Wish I could provide more input…
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dspta in Dallas, Texas

18 months ago

I work in Dallas, and I do home health full-time. I contract out with multiple companies, and I do anywhere from 35-50 visits per week, depending on the week. The per visit range in the DFW area is $55-60 per visit for contract, and $50 per visit for w-2 wage employers. Full-time employers ae paying close to $45 per hr up to 60 visits per pay period, then they pay the PRN rate after that.

I've learned that if you set up your LLC and go the way of the contractor, you will make a whole lot more money and not have to work as many hours. You can contract with multiple companies, which will keep your coverage area tighter and you spend less time on the road and more time making money. The tax benefits are worth it as well, but I would advise consulting an accountant your first year.

If someone is doing HH for $28 per visit then they are severely underpaid.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

dspta in Dallas, Texas said: I work in Dallas, and I do home health full-time. I contract out with multiple companies, and I do anywhere from 35-50 visits per week, depending on the week. The per visit range in the DFW area is $55-60 per visit for contract, and $50 per visit for w-2 wage employers. Full-time employers ae paying close to $45 per hr up to 60 visits per pay period, then they pay the PRN rate after that.

I've learned that if you set up your LLC and go the way of the contractor, you will make a whole lot more money and not have to work as many hours. You can contract with multiple companies, which will keep your coverage area tighter and you spend less time on the road and more time making money. The tax benefits are worth it as well, but I would advise consulting an accountant your first year.

If someone is doing HH for $28 per visit then they are severely underpaid.

Good to hear,thanks for the responces.Im getting $38/visit and with the price of gas,I am glad my furthest pt. is 20 min away.

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Jose in Winter Garden, Florida

18 months ago

dspta in Dallas, Texas said: I work in Dallas, and I do home health full-time. I contract out with multiple companies, and I do anywhere from 35-50 visits per week, depending on the week. The per visit range in the DFW area is $55-60 per visit for contract, and $50 per visit for w-2 wage employers. Full-time employers ae paying close to $45 per hr up to 60 visits per pay period, then they pay the PRN rate after that.

I've learned that if you set up your LLC and go the way of the contractor, you will make a whole lot more money and not have to work as many hours. You can contract with multiple companies, which will keep your coverage area tighter and you spend less time on the road and more time making money. The tax benefits are worth it as well, but I would advise consulting an accountant your first year.

If someone is doing HH for $28 per visit then they are severely underpaid.

Florida is saturated with PTA's nowadays. What is the demand like for PTA's Home Care in Dallas/Fort Worth?

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

18 months ago

As one of the others mentioned, time is the most crucial aspect of home health. When visits are spread far apart then over the course of the day you might be losing upwards of 2-3 visits daily. $38 per visit in Florida might be on the low side unless they are private pays or smaller private insurers. I contracted for several years and was given offers of private pays on occasion at $28-35. I would usually take them because the patients were in my rural hometown. Medicare visits are $45-$55 per visit in Northeast Florida. If you are captive/salaried you should be getting the same rate per visit regardless of the payor. AG are you getting mileage too?

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida said: As one of the others mentioned, time is the most crucial aspect of home health. When visits are spread far apart then over the course of the day you might be losing upwards of 2-3 visits daily. $38 per visit in Florida might be on the low side unless they are private pays or smaller private insurers. I contracted for several years and was given offers of private pays on occasion at $28-35. I would usually take them because the patients were in my rural hometown. Medicare visits are $45-$55 per visit in Northeast Florida. If you are captive/salaried you should be getting the same rate per visit regardless of the payor. AG are you getting mileage too?

I don't get mileage,just $38/visit,but I thought that because my pts. are 20 - 25 min. from home and eachother it is OK.

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

18 months ago

AG how spread out are your patients? Have you clocked you mileage per day/per week? You might be surprised to find you are driving more than you think. I'm guessing 20-25 minutes is 30 miles away? If it's city 20-25 minutes then perhaps 15-20? Either way you are looking at somewhere between 100 and 130 miles weekly. Say 100 x typical mileage rate of $.44 = $176 dollars a month. Every minute you are driving you are not treating or documenting so it's kind of a loss of productivity from my perspective. Asking for mileage from my calculation brought you up to $40 per visit. I don't mean to pry or convince you to change what works for you but if it was me I would ask for more per visit.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida said: AG how spread out are your patients? Have you clocked you mileage per day/per week? You might be surprised to find you are driving more than you think. I'm guessing 20-25 minutes is 30 miles away? If it's city 20-25 minutes then perhaps 15-20? Either way you are looking at somewhere between 100 and 130 miles weekly. Say 100 x typical mileage rate of $.44 = $176 dollars a month. Every minute you are driving you are not treating or documenting so it's kind of a loss of productivity from my perspective. Asking for mileage from my calculation brought you up to $40 per visit. I don't mean to pry or convince you to change what works for you but if it was me I would ask for more per visit.

I work in my town and a town over and put $35/wk.of gas in car,not bad.I figure 1 tx. a wk.fills tank for Mon.- Fri.I rarely use my car on weekends.I keep track of mileage for when I do taxes.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

lisapta in Delray Beach, Florida said: Happy Thanksgiving to all !
As many of you know already, I have started online tutoring for those who need assistance in tackling the tricks of this monster test! I have been out of PTA school since 2001 and was grandfathered in. I had to take the test in fla.It was like going back to school , mainly bc my background is in orthopedics.
I will resume session on Monday following the holiday, its been great so far as i am working with others within a different forum as well.
Be well and good luck!!!
Grandfathered in to what??

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lisapta in Boynton Beach, Florida

18 months ago

AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida said: Grandfathered in to what??

It is a term used when the state board for the state in which you resided did not require one to take the state boards. I moved to fla and had to take the boards after being out since 01.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

18 months ago

lisapta in Boynton Beach, Florida said: It is a term used when the state board for the state in which you resided did not require one to take the state boards. I moved to fla and had to take the boards after being out since 01.

If you had to take the Fl. boards why do you say you were grandfathered in? I don't mean to sound rude.I was licensed in NY for 16 yrs. and had to take a few tests not the state boards to get my Fl. license.I took the NY state boards right after graduation so I would not have to take them again if I ever moved,which I did.

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AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida

17 months ago

AG 2803 in tarpon springs++, Florida said: If you had to take the Fl. boards why do you say you were grandfathered in? I don't mean to sound rude.I was licensed in NY for 16 yrs. and had to take a few tests not the state boards to get my Fl. license.I took the NY state boards right after graduation so I would not have to take them again if I ever moved,which I did.

I didn't mean to be offensive,just want to understand.If one had to take the boards to work in a different state that one graduated from,then one was not grandfathered in.

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maysmythe@gmail.com in Vallejo, California

17 months ago

Paul PTA in Austin, Texas said: I run one of the largest therapy home health staffing companies in Texas. If you are looking for work in Austin, Houston, Dallas, or San Antonio, please let me know. We would love to talk to you!

Do you still have home health opportunities in Austin, TX for PTA's

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PTA in Sanford, Florida

15 months ago

SOS
I am about to sign with Pediatric HOme health, what is the rate per visit when is Pediatric....
Thanks

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R. Haynes in Fort Myers, Florida

11 months ago

Does anyone know what the going rate right now is For PTAs working as independent contractors in Florida? I realize there may be some differences in locations but just looking for general price range.

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

10 months ago

R. Haynes in Fort Myers, Florida said: Does anyone know what the going rate right now is For PTAs working as independent contractors in Florida? I realize there may be some differences in locations but just looking for general price range.

R. Haynes,

By independent contractor do you mean a 1099 employee? I seldom hear of 1099 PTA's but commonly here of PTA (myself included at times) working PRN for multiple agencies. If your situation is the latter of the two then I would generally say between $40-50 per visit plus mileage (Northeast Florida). If you are 1099 then that is another can of worms. The change in contributions to FICA would increase at least 7.5% and that would have to be figured into your rate.

Hope this helps!
Jeremiah

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Artisan in Ennis, Texas

8 months ago

I work in Dallas, and I do home health full-time. I contract out with multiple companies, and I do anywhere from 35-50 visits per week, depending on the week. The per visit range in the DFW area is $55-60 per visit for contract, and $50 per visit for w-2 wage employers. Full-time employers ae paying close to $45 per hr up to 60 visits per pay period, then they pay the PRN rate after that.

I've learned that if you set up your LLC and go the way of the contractor, you will make a whole lot more money and not have to work as many hours. You can contract with multiple companies, which will keep your coverage area tighter and you spend less time on the road and more time making money. The tax benefits are worth it as well, but I would advise consulting an accountant your first year.

If someone is doing HH for $28 per visit then they are severely underpaid.

I am a PTA new to TX with three years outpatient experience and would like to try home health. I am in Ellis Co. and would like advice on how to get started. Please let me know if there is a way I can contact you for advice.

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

8 months ago

To be honest to those pondering home health, unless you are in a VERY tight geographical area 50 visits a week is unrealistic (assuming Mon-Fri 9-6. Provided your giving quality care AND meeting Medicare guidelines for min requirements for home visits. I do have friends who push 6 days a week but it's hard not to get burn out in a few months. Most use a 10 visits a day max, assuming 45 tx time and 15 minute travel usually 1 cx or reschedule lands you 8-9 visits. Of course there are exceptions but I believe we do our profession a serious disservice when we compromise quality care. Just my thoughts...

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sogeofa00 in Auburndale, Florida

6 months ago

I am about to start full time with a HHA as a PTA and I was told that I would be pay $45/visit, however, when I received the offer letter it stated $20/hour. Is there a difference between being paid by hour or visit in the home health field? I am about to call them to clarify, but I wanted to check for a possible answer first with those of you who've worked HH before.
Thanks for your help.

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Z in Sebring, Florida

6 months ago

sogeofa00 in Auburndale, Florida said: I am about to start full time with a HHA as a PTA and I was told that I would be pay $45/visit, however, when I received the offer letter it stated $20/hour. Is there a difference between being paid by hour or visit in the home health field? I am about to call them to clarify, but I wanted to check for a possible answer first with those of you who've worked HH before.
Thanks for your help.

If they quoted you $45/visit, which is fair, then the offer letter should reflect the same. Is this a salaried position or would you get a 1099 at the end of the year?

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

6 months ago

The offer sounds correct and this is why. Per visit rate is $45, your hourly rate is $20 (meetings, training, PTO, holidays, ect). Almost all HHA use "units" to calculate visit rates and then multiple that figure by your hourly rate. A licensed PTA in your case is 2.25 "units" per visit. Multiply 2.25 x $20 and you get your "visit rate" of $45. It makes sense when HHA have to pay separate amounts for visits such as SOC or ROC's, DC and so on. What is your mileage? That is a number you should be concerned about ...Hope this helps

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Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida

6 months ago

Therapy reassessments

CMS is finalizing the elimination of the 13th and 19th visit reassessment requirements. For episodes beginning on or after January 1, 2015; at least every 30 calendar days a qualified therapist (instead of an assistant) must provide the needed therapy service and functionally reassess the patient. This policy change will lessen the burden on HHAs of counting visits and reduce the risk of non-covered visits so that therapists can focus more on providing quality care for their patients, while still promoting therapist involvement and quality treatment for all beneficiaries regardless of the level of therapy provided.

www.cms.gov/Newsroom/MediaReleaseDatabase/Fact-sheets/2014-Fact-sheets-items/2014-10-30.html

www.apta.org/PTinMotion/News/2014/10/31/2015HHRule/

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Chermomof2 in Hurst, Texas

6 months ago

Jeremiah Fredrick in Florida said: The offer sounds correct and this is why. Per visit rate is $45, your hourly rate is $20 (meetings, training, PTO, holidays, ect). Almost all HHA use "units" to calculate visit rates and then multiple that figure by your hourly rate. A licensed PTA in your case is 2.25 "units" per visit. Multiply 2.25 x $20 and you get your "visit rate" of $45. It makes sense when HHA have to pay separate amounts for visits such as SOC or ROC's, DC and so on. What is your mileage? That is a number you should be concerned about ...Hope this helps

What is a fair Mileage rate? Also can you explain...If paid $20/hr and visits are about an hour...How do they get 2.25 units that= $45/visit...I am considering Home Health.

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PTAAN in Overland Park, Kansas

6 months ago

Can anyone chime in on the current rates/salary for PTA in socal? Graduating next year and I want to know my options. I recently saw a post that they are hiring PTA/COTA for 45k a year and thought that was really low especially for so. cal. Thanks in advance

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homosassa girl in Homosassa, Florida

1 month ago

I have started home health prn for 2 companies in central Fl. I have my own LLC company and medical liability insurance but only 1 of those companies pays me on a 1099. The 1099 employer pays me $60 a visit but no mileage the W2 employer pays me $50 a visit plus $4.20 for gas per house. The other W2 employer pays me $45 with no mileage but i am only seeing patients that are within 20 min of me with that company.

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Future PTA in Olathe, Kansas

10 days ago

Paul in Austin, Texas said: You may visit our website at www.guardianhealthcare.com . You can call either our Austin or Houston offices and we would be glad to help you.

Hey could I get your email I'm graduating in December and would like to knee my options in Austin and Houston! Thanks!

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Turn Key Therapy in Austin, Texas

8 days ago

For anyone looking for home health work, I have customers in most states that are always looking for more help. If anyone works with a home health therapy company and wants to make $500, please refer them to us! www.turnkeytherapy.com . You will find our email address on the contact us page.

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Lady texan in Pasadena, Texas

7 days ago

bluelineman in McKinney, Texas said: Check your email.

Could you send me info on your company & if you happen to know other HH agencies that offer benefits.

Thank you

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