P.A SCHOOL DOES IT MATTER WHICH ONE YOU ATTEND?

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John in Saint Paul, Minnesota

32 months ago

I am now considering PA after completing my degree program in Health Care Administration. I have worked in health care field in different positions such as Health Information Cleck, Health Information Techninican, Coding Specialist and now surgical clinical reviewer. Works with physicians, nurses and PAs on day to day.

Do I need to quit my full time job in order to do PA studies. That would be a challenge knowing I have to eat, and feed my family.

Other than that, I am ready.........

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liya philip in long island, New York

32 months ago

Hi, i got out of high school a year ago and been working on my pre-req's ever since and i intend on becoming a PA. but am buried with tons of questions and concerns. i want to know what is the best way to become a PA? should i take a pre-PA program or get my bachelors in health science/biology? if yes what will be the best college for me to start? and how long does each sections last? i know these sounds silly but i need a start soon. please give me some info.

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Danny89 in Hollywood, Florida

32 months ago

Laurenie in Miami, Florida said: I am an Athletic training student at FIU I graduate from the program in spring 2010 with a masters. My intentions after graduation are to continue my education in a physician assistant program. I heard from someone that specializing in orthopedics with my backgrround in athletic training will bring in more money. Is this true? What kind of jobs are their for a PA in athletic? and their salary range.
Thank you!

Where you able to find out any jobs for p.a in orthopedics? I am currently going to school to become a p.a and want to specialize in orthopedics. In addition, what is their salaries?

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sara1234 in Maine

32 months ago

liya philip in long island, New York said: Hi, i got out of high school a year ago and been working on my pre-req's ever since and i intend on becoming a PA. but am buried with tons of questions and concerns. i want to know what is the best way to become a PA? should i take a pre-PA program or get my bachelors in health science/biology? if yes what will be the best college for me to start? and how long does each sections last? i know these sounds silly but i need a start soon. please give me some info.

I am inPA school. I'll tell you what I did. I MADE SURE my GPA was high. At one point I even quit University to go to community college... Try your BEST not to mess up those precious grades!!! It doesn't matter (AT ALL) what your major is so don't kill yourself to get a Bio degree if you feel like you are dying:) GRADE (from anywhere) S are what matter.
Good Luck, CHamp!

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JSchmidt in Washington, District of Columbia

29 months ago

Do you really 'need' to do the Masters PA program. From the research I've done I see you can practice without it, and you get hired without it. I am thinking of finishing my Undergraduate in PA, get some experience and then go on to a masters program. Is that a good alternative route? What kind of masters would be required?

Thank you.

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dg in Miami, Florida

29 months ago

DO IT,
it will cost you half as much as the master program.
Once you pass the pance and are a PA-C there are a few
online bridge programs you can do for under 10k.

I am currently in the PA program at Miami Dade and it is one of the best "bangs for you buck". I have a B.A from the New school for social Research / Parsons school of Design and have also studied at Umass.
Do not underestimate a BA or AA in PA. There are very few programs around. If you can do it, you will NOT REGRET!!!! and yes after you get it.... go for your masters....
the cost of my PA education will come out to 25k for the AA and 10K for the masters. A total of 35k as compared to a masters at Nova or Barry for 80k.

you do the math and tell me

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dg in Miami, Florida

29 months ago

JSchmidt in Washington, District of Columbia said: Do you really 'need' to do the Masters PA program. From the research I've done I see you can practice without it, and you get hired without it. I am thinking of finishing my Undergraduate in PA, get some experience and then go on to a masters program. Is that a good alternative route? What kind of masters would be required?

Thank you.

By the way you can have a masters in ANYTHING... as long as you are a PA-C

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lcyc11 in Binghamton, New York

27 months ago

Does anyone know of a 1 year long Physician Assistant program?

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Danny89 in Hollywood, Florida

27 months ago

dg in Miami, Florida said: DO IT,
it will cost you half as much as the master program.
Once you pass the pance and are a PA-C there are a few
online bridge programs you can do for under 10k.

I am currently in the PA program at Miami Dade and it is one of the best "bangs for you buck". I have a B.A from the New school for social Research / Parsons school of Design and have also studied at Umass.
Do not underestimate a BA or AA in PA. There are very few programs around. If you can do it, you will NOT REGRET!!!! and yes after you get it.... go for your masters....
the cost of my PA education will come out to 25k for the AA and 10K for the masters. A total of 35k as compared to a masters at Nova or Barry for 80k.

you do the math and tell me

HOW IS THE MDC PA PROGRAM? I AM PLANNING ON APPLYING THERE MYSELF. AFTER GETTING YOUR AA IN MDC YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THERE FOR YOUR MASTERS OR YOU HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE?I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE SOME FEED BACK. EMAIL ME AT danny012409@yahoo.com

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BetterHealthcare in Atlanta, Georgia

27 months ago

Danny89 in Hollywood, Florida said: HOW IS THE MDC PA PROGRAM? I AM PLANNING ON APPLYING THERE MYSELF. AFTER GETTING YOUR AA IN MDC YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THERE FOR YOUR MASTERS OR YOU HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE?I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE SOME FEED BACK. EMAIL ME AT danny012409@yahoo.com

Danny89,

Although the PA-program at MDC is an accredited program, I would not short change my opportunities by pursuing an associates in physician assistant studies. Not all practices will hire a PA-C w/just a AASPA. The field is starting to grow, and the mass majority of current PA graduates hold master degrees as their entry-level into the profession. In a growing population of graduates, many are earning dual-degrees (e.g. MPH along w/their MMSc/MPAS).

Dg in Miami is correct, there is a significant difference in cost but as a new graduate facing the challenge of procuring a job as a PA, a AA puts you far behind, not necessarily in your knowledge but in the perception of hiring managers and physicians.

With all that said there are many successful PAs working with AAs but they are a minority in our profession, and many of them entered the profession a few years back. I'm not trying to discourage your choice in how you enter the profession, but point out to you that you may want to think about the value of your career long-term v. piecemeal. And this is just my interpretation of what a new graduate w/a AA is likely to face entering the profession.

Good luck in your decision and endeavors.

M
DHSc, PA-C
Internal Medicine

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BetterHealthcare in Atlanta, Georgia

27 months ago

lcyc11 in Binghamton, New York said: Does anyone know of a 1 year long Physician Assistant program?

1cyc11,

Based on your question it appears you may not have done your research or very little. There are no one (1) year PA-programs in the U.S.

If you review the ARC-PA(www.arc-pa.org/)website it should breakdown and answer every question you have about the institutions with approved PA-programs. And once you find a program you are interested in/would like to pursue your studies through, it is highly advise that you contact that institution regarding their program for further informaiton.

If you think about all the things that have to be covered before unleashing you on the public a year of study is unfeasible to give you a good foundation in which to build your medical practice upon. There is a year of extremely intense didactic followed by a year of clinicals you must undergo and even then as a new graduate we're behind the learning curve that only gets better as you gain experience.

Remember a PA is an extension of a physician, you will diagnosis, treat, order test/interpret them, prescribe medication, make referals, etc for people that entrust you to easy/stop their pain and/or reassure them that they can be treated once you identify the problem.

I hope this helps you and I wish you the best in your search and future endeavors.

M
DHSc, PA-C
Internal Medicine

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financetoPA in Alexandria, Virginia

26 months ago

Hi Mike,

I've been reading through your posts and really interested in the work you're doing. I come from a finance background, switched careers and applying to PA school now. I work as a scribe at an ER, and have always found interest in pediatrics, but wanted to meet and talk with someone who does it everyday, particularly a PA. Are there any volunteer opportunities in your department or a possibility for me to shadow you by any chance? Thanks!

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KizzyAspiringCLS in Brooklyn, New York

23 months ago

asisat in Queens Village, New York said: Hi, I was am also interested in applying to york's PA program for the fall 2009. I wanted to know about the program overall. Are the faculty members helpful? Is there help in the program overall? Are they quick to kick ppl out of the program? I was about to start the PA program in Touro but I heard so many negative things about it, like how there isn't any tutoring and students feel like they are on their own. I'm hoping York is a good choice b/c I live close by and it would be so convient for me

Hey, did you apply to the CUNY York PA program? How reputable is it? I know it is accredited, but do hospitals or employers look at it like jack didly squat diddly?

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Chris in Bronx, New York

23 months ago

Hi!

I am doing some research for someone who wants to study to be a P.A. First of all, he's got BA in Science and Computer science. He finished school 15 years ago, and just moved on from his career in finance to pursue this goal of PA that he has been interested in for a long time. He is considering schools in New York vs the schools in central Florida. The thought is that the cost of living is better in Florida, as well as the lack of distractions. Since he will only be working part time, he is thinking New York might be too expensive to study to be a P.A. and live comfortably. He is intent on working at least part time, although most programs recommend not to.

I am also curious about how important it is to retake prerequisites and courses that he has already taken in the past when he originally got his degree at a SUNY college and the sort of medical/health care background he will need to be accepted into a program.

Advice, questions, comments, please?

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Dennis Rey in Bronx, New York

23 months ago

Hi!

I am doing some research for someone who wants to study to be a P.A. First of all, he's got BA in Science and Computer science. He finished school 15 years ago, and just moved on from his career in finance to pursue this goal of PA that he has been interested in for a long time. He is considering schools in New York vs the schools in central Florida. The thought is that the cost of living is better in Florida, as well as the lack of distractions. Since he will only be working part time, he is thinking New York might be too expensive to study to be a P.A. and live comfortably. He is intent on working at least part time, although most programs recommend not to.

I am also curious about how important it is to retake prerequisites and courses that he has already taken in the past when he originally got his degree at a SUNY college and the sort of medical/health care background he will need to be accepted into a program.

Advice, questions, comments, please?

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BetterHealthcare in Atlanta, Georgia

23 months ago

Dennis Rey in Bronx, New York said: Hi!

Dear Dennis Rey in the Bronx,

I'm not sure of what you're trying to say regarding your friend's "BA in Science". I would suggest that your friend make a list of institutions he/she wish to attend and contact them directly and present his/her questions to them. They will give them a bottom line assessment of requirements to gain admission into their program.

With regards to working while dredging through a PA program, I believe your friend is setting him/her self up for likely failure. As you stated in your post most programs deter students from working while in their program and it is for a very good reason.

Your friend could be an exception, but to my knowledge I have not met or heard of anyone that has worked and been successful while participating in a 24 to 36 month PA program depending on the institution.

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Dennis Rey in Bronx, New York

23 months ago

Meant Bachelors in science and computer science from a SUNY. Thanks for the feedback, anything constructive helps.

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BetterHealthcare in Atlanta, Georgia

23 months ago

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Dennis Rey in the Bronx,

Depending on when your friend graduated he or she will be required to retake many if not all of the required prerequisites ... if they earned their degree 5 yrs or more ago, then it is very likely they will have to revisit many of those courses.

Also, most programs required 500 to 1000 hrs of direct patient care minimum before applying. Therefore, if your friend is short in that requirement, I would suggest killing to two birds w/one stone.

Some community colleges offer AAS in paramedic studies, if you're are able to find such a program it will give you many of your prerequisites and prepare you to work as a paramedic/EMT which will also start you on your path of getting the required direct patient care hours you will need to meet admission minimum.

Remember most PA programs are EXTREMELY competitive ... getting accepted is not a "walk in the park" in addition to the didactic and clinical phases you will have to endure before, you're even able to sit for a state license.

I hope this helps you?

M
DMSc, PA-C
Internal Medicine

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BetterHealthcare in Atlanta, Georgia

23 months ago

Dennis Rey in Bronx, New York said: Meant Bachelors in science and computer science from a SUNY. Thanks for the feedback, anything constructive helps.

Rather BA or BS ... the fact that its been 15 yrs since he or she has been in an academic setting under sever pressure, I would recommend they take a course or two to get back into rhythm.

Here's a link of accredited PA programs in the country by state: www.arc-pa.org/acc_programs/

If it is not listed here then it is not approved or may still be working on accreditation. Currently there are 9 institutions that offer PA programs in Florida, and I believe Miami-Dade College is the only program that awards an associate degree. All of the others offer PA programs which work toward the master level, which is the dominant entry-level degree for physician assistants (PA).

A large number of PAs hold additional (masters) degrees in public health, public health administration, or healthcare management just to name a few. In addition to the aforementioned several PA move on to earning doctorates as a furthering of their education, career opportunities, or just to gain respect among physicians.

The PA profession is a very dynamic and growing trade craft. To practice medicine is an honor and humbling experience, but not everyone is can do it. If your friend is serious, and believes he or she can endure the challenges, a little bit more research will go a long way to help them find the right PA program for them.

I wish you & your friend well and good luck in helping your friend realize his or her calling.

M
DMSc, PA-C
Internal Medicine

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DreamingPA in New York, New York

4 months ago

yorkpa in Flushing, New York said: This is what I mean by overwhelming, our classes were held 5 days a wk 9-5 and sometimes we had to come on weekends, I could not hold a job, I felt like i had not enough time to study, basically my first year it was all short term memory. on average we had about 2-3 exams a wk. But you do not need to be a genius, the staff really does try to help you out during the program to pass. When you graduate any job that hires you will train you. You do not function as a nurse, you are train to function as a doctor( you treat, medicate and council, you just have to make sure your supervising doc agrees with you) . when you rotate in the hospitals you will notice that the medical students know as much as you do about medicine, it is just that they do residency and you don't. For your board's you use USMLE books.

It was so helpful reading what your experience was like Yorkpa (I live in NY & you've pointed me into the direction of York (: ) because I want to be a PA but was scared about being able to keep up. My question is what advice do you have for studying? Also were you a nurse or another healthcare professional before becoming a PA because everyone keeps telling me I need to be a RN or another medical profession before becoming a PA and I'm just 19 but its what I want to do.

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