Why Lincoln vs. Miller for pipe welding?

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Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas 45 months ago	Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me - Was this comment helpful? Yes (74) / No (15) Reply - Report abuse
pipeweldor in Ranson, West Virginia 45 months ago	witch machines are you comparing? personally I`m a lincoln man. Old school pipeline weldors prefer lincolns because of their smooth arc characteristics. Old sa-200`s and modern " classic" models, have copper windings. miller has aluminum. Maybe their new larger machines have copper. I use a lincoln classic 300, and expect it to last a lifetime.. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (20) / No (5) Reply - Report abuse
Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas 45 months ago	I like the Miller Trailblazer Pro 350 Diesel because it has AC/DC capability but I like the style of the Lincoln SA-250. I appericiate the info. If I can ever get on with the 798 and advance to Welder, I'll probably get an SA-250 or Classic 300. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (8) / No (7) Reply - Report abuse
Scott in Norfolk, Virginia 45 months ago	Personally, I'm a Miller guy, because I've always thought that Miller had a more focused and smooth arc. The engines in the old diesel SA 250's we're better than the ones in the Big 50 Millers, but that's changed here the last couple of years. I've got 3 machines, two Millers and a Lincoln, and I use my Millers more because they fine tune better. As far as the duty cycles, they are comparable between the two if you're comparing the same size machines. Most Millers are only going to get 60% if you're running them @ 200 amps or more. Nowadays with the advance of electronics, it's more of a personal preference than anything. I'll weld a cat's ass to a plate glass window with either of them, I'd just rather do it with a Miller. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (7) / No (4) Reply - Report abuse
oldcl 43 months ago	Oregon J. in Beaverton, Oregon said: I'm a welder for the Boilermakers, and we use both brands of welders. Both are fine and can produce the same x-ray quality weld. The Miller Big 40 is an incredibly good machine for code work. Thanks for the reply.I am really glad to hear that.I know that a lot of companies want let you use anything but a Lincoln.I would like to find out why. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (7) / No (4) Reply - Report abuse
Shaneco in Ava, Missouri 41 months ago	What year did Lincoln start putting aluminum windings in their welders? - Was this comment helpful? Yes (33) / No (10) Reply - Report abuse
franko8 in Tewksbury, Massachusetts 38 months ago	i have been welding with a older 200 for 30 yr. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (8) / No (4) Reply - Report abuse
jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington 38 months ago	Oregon J. in Beaverton, Oregon said: I'm a welder for the Boilermakers, and we use both brands of welders. Both are fine and can produce the same x-ray quality weld. The Miller Big 40 is an incredibly good machine for code work. howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (5) / No (3) Reply - Report abuse
ironsport in Oregon, Illinois 38 months ago	jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington said: howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here. yes but im not from oregon dont know why it says that *Igot friend out that way says some work out spokane way - Was this comment helpful? Yes (4) / No Reply - Report abuse
sheilametals in Bethel, Maine 37 months ago	I'm looking at a 2002 Lincoln Classic III with 4000 hours on it. It's on a Dodge Ram and comes with about 300' of lead. Anyone care to engage me in discussion about what it's worth? - Was this comment helpful? Yes (30) / No (6) Reply - Report abuse
ironsport in random lake, Wisconsin 37 months ago	I love my pipe-pro got a good price on it 10400 same as a 200d.Ifeel it is a more verstile machine and it puts out 400 plus amps it has excellent arc it downhills as good or better than any lincoln ive ever used I will say it took me awhile to find its sweet spot but once I did well what can I say other than I am satisfied with my money spent it is a woderful tig unit as well best there is just my opinion - Was this comment helpful? Yes (5) / No (3) Reply - Report abuse
ironsport in random lake, Wisconsin 37 months ago	I downhill and once Igot used to the dig Ifound it to be as good as a lincoln Iown amiller pipe pro I bought it for pipeline work and must admit I struggled with it at first but feel I* got it figured out as I stated it tigs very well i also have a trailblazer ac-dc machine with a freek box for aluminum as u say its a matter of preference the machine dont weld it the weldor does - Was this comment helpful? Yes (8) / No (6) Reply - Report abuse
Jared Finley in Denton, Texas 36 months ago	They all have there perks but Lincoln is used because when they break down 75% of your parts can be picked up at any automotive parts store easy to work on and will run as long as you are willing to throw money at it - Was this comment helpful? Yes (5) / No (3) Reply - Report abuse
rick in Stokesdale, North Carolina 35 months ago	im lost cant make up my mind what to buy the choices for my budget are miller big20 or i found a couple real nice sa-200s around im certified in structural but eventually wanna do pipe when i get enough practice will the sa-200 be good enough for both? if i do structural will it gouge? can i run large fluxcore with it through a ln-25? any comments would be greatly appreciated im just gettin going barely got out of 5 months full time welding school loved it i can definently do this the rest of my working life - Was this comment helpful? Yes (8) / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
phantom in Lilburn, Georgia 32 months ago	i agree with dio up there .....i just bought a sa 200 from the 60s all copper ..it welds like a dream. you wont know what the diff between aluminum and copper till you weld with a copper coiled machine ...its like melting butter so smooth. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No Reply - Report abuse
rick in Eden, North Carolina 32 months ago	i was looking at a 64 redface so the guy let me weld with it man u are right it welded like a dream smoothest arc and start but it was on its last legs mechanically i mean this thing was old so i settled for a sa250 from early 90s almost cherry that way i can run fluxcore and arc gouging without any hassles i do know what u mean about the copper though i just wish it had been a little less used ,too bad i couldnt put that genset on my newer machine, back then was as true dc as it gets - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No (3) Reply - Report abuse
old pipeliners never die in Thief River Falls, Minnesota 30 months ago	Ive been pipelining for 36 years and Ive used the same 1952lincoln 200 shorthood for 32 of them. You try to find a guy that can say that about a miller, or anything else for that matter, they are all good machines but you start welding 12+ hours a day 6 days a week you better buy yourself a lincoln sa 200, the older the better,just like the running it...lol... - Was this comment helpful? Yes (13) / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
rick in Eden, North Carolina 30 months ago	as far as duty cycle mine is 60% but hell who can weld faster than that?or who would want to i need a break every now and then aint no robot ,thats why i went into business for myself cause older i get... them formen really started buggin me with all that cracking the whip crap specially the younger ones make ya feel like knocking the chip off thier shoulder...then again ive always had a problem with authority lol - Was this comment helpful? Yes (10) / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
old pipeliners never die in Thief River Falls, Minnesota 30 months ago	I hear you Rick in Eden, couldnt agree more - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No Reply - Report abuse
matt in Perris, California 30 months ago	Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me i asked the same thing 30 years ago ! they told me if i needed 100%duty cycle your workin too hard !!!! so i bot a lincon sam 400.first one lasted 14 years.had to replace a water pump. stil running my 2 nd one. miller portable, ya right!! also check the repair shops. 10 millers mabey a lincon. their shop machines are ok but portable are AC with dc converter. 90% of your work is dc. also millers have aluminum windings. any more questions? - Was this comment helpful? Yes (6) / No Reply - Report abuse
jschulte11 in Magazine, Arkansas 30 months ago	Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me well, my sa200 can burn 3/16" rods for 8 hours in a 10hr day, so much for that 60% duty cycle!! Actually, duty cycle as measured by LINCOLN, is at MAX output, wich is well over 200 amps DC, i guess if u were burning rods over 1/4" u may run into that 6 out on 10 minute thing, but not likely in normal work. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (6) / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
jschulte11 in Magazine, Arkansas 30 months ago	BTW, mine is an unmolested 1965 redface! - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
rick in Eden, North Carolina 30 months ago	i hear ya ,if you can outrun my sa250 on duty cycle you are one hell of a welder ,i dont care to work that hard myself ...duty cycle means nothing to me unless i was running wire then i might exceed it - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
rick in Eden, North Carolina 30 months ago	thing i want to know is if im running carbon airarc can i run an electric compressor off my generator at the same time without shortening the life expectnacy of my machine? - Was this comment helpful? Yes (4) / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
ironsport in Winchester, Virginia 30 months ago	with my pipe pro the welder is seperate from the generator i can run another electric welder while welding so with that being the case i guess with that sort of option or set up you could providing tou dont excede the wasttage i have 12000 watts of pwer sepereate from the welder hope that helps with your ? - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas 29 months ago	rick in Eden, North Carolina said: i was looking at a 64 redface so the guy let me weld with it man u are right it welded like a dream smoothest arc and start but it was on its last legs mechanically i mean this thing was old so i settled for a sa250 from early 90s almost cherry that way i can run fluxcore and arc gouging without any hassles i do know what u mean about the copper though i just wish it had been a little less used ,too bad i couldnt put that genset on my newer machine, back then was as true dc as it gets who has this 64 redface if u dont mind me asking, this caught my eye when u said its last leg mechanically, it doesnt matter to me if it runs or not, its just a thing. thanks. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (2) / No Reply - Report abuse
rick in Linden, North Carolina 29 months ago	its on raliegh craigslist,hes a contractor going out of business he used it for welding on his equipment,give me a day i can look it up for you and give you the number if you like,i could have got it for 700 bucks,i tried it out it welded like a dream,but the rest was as i said in bad shape,but it did run and it is towable tariler mounted,would be a great rebuild project - Was this comment helpful? Yes (2) / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
rick in Linden, North Carolina 29 months ago	here ya go: Sewer and Water Utility Company selling off well maintained equipment. Contact Bob at nine-one -nine-4-two-7-four-six-5-seven or RossiUtilities@nc.rr.com for pricing. Caterpillar 225 BLC Excavator Caterpillar 215 Excavator Caterpillar D4C LGP Hamm 2210 SSD Vibratory Pad Foot Roller 1989 Mack Tri-axle tractor 50 ton Rogers low boy 1992 Ford F-450 Super Duty Dump Truck 1963 Mack B-61 Single axle dump truck, {10’ rock bed} Rammax trench roller, Manual Control Rammax trench roller, Manual & Remote Control Diamond Trench Wheel Compactor, small Diamond Trench Wheel Compactors, large Galion 3-5 Ton Asphalt Roller Homemade 4” auger test drill, {trailer type} Lincoln 200 amp gas powered welder on trailer that was months ago you could probly get it cheaper than that - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No Reply - Report abuse
Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas 29 months ago	thanks for responding, i would be interested in that phone number if u get time. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
rick in Linden, North Carolina 29 months ago	Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas said: thanks for responding, i would be interested in that phone number if u get time. Contact Bob at nine-one -nine-4-two-7-four-six-5-seven or RossiUtilities@nc.rr.com for i had to put it like that because it wouldnt let me post the number - Was this comment helpful? Yes (2) / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
fowlerengines in Patterson, Louisiana 29 months ago	Completely rebuilt Lincoln 200D Pipeliner, This is no ordinery Lincoln this is a high end machine that is in very high demand across the nation. All our parts are made from the best of wire and custom hand made copper parts. Check out what this machine has.. Completely Rebuilt Continental F163 Engine New Alternator Rebuilt Carburator Rebuilt Governor Rebuilt Magneto Rewound Main Armature Arc Force Shunt coils ( Hand made) Five selector coils ( Hand made) Copper Innerpole Coils ( Hand made) Rewound excitor Armature Excitor Coils ( Hand made) All new brushes All new wiring All new Gauges All new Switches All new Nuts and Bolts Frame Blasted Painted with Epoxy Paint ALL THE PARTS ARE DOUBLE DIPPED AND BAKED WITH OUR OWN SPECIAL VARNISH. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ALUMINUM INTRENAL PARTS WE ARE ALL COPPER! We also use special internal copper wire that protects you from shorting out costing you money and time missed from work. Im asking $11,500.00 for this Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner Check out WWW.HYBRIWELD.COM for more info and all your part needs.. You will not regret this.. ken wiggins Will SELL FAST!!! - Was this comment helpful? Yes (6) / No Reply - Report abuse
leonard in Forsyth, Montana 28 months ago	jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington said: howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here. i know thair are good unions out will teach you to be a good welder . al most ever union guy i know are moor than happy to get you on a good job with good benefits - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
Big B in Amite, Louisiana 27 months ago	Looking for name and telephone # for older man around Prarieville,Gonzales,La area, that repairs/rebuilds Lincoln 200's. - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	New Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner for SALE! www.fowlerenginesllc.com - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No Reply - Report abuse
Big B in Amite, Louisiana 27 months ago	Let me rephrase my question. Looking for someone to completely overhaul Lincoln Sa-200 generator only!!! Will not use arcco, big 3 or similar companies. Had bad luck in the past, need knowledgeable individual in business. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	Tom Fowler (my father-n-law) has several Patents one of them is his own generator end coil called the 7 selector. He is the best in the business. Visit our sister company www.hybriweld.com and you can get intouch with him that way since I cant put his number on here for you. Go in your web browser and put in his name you will be amazed with his reputation of excellence and knowledge of Lincoln 200's and 250's. Call Him tomorrow morning youll be glad you did. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	Welder parts sales is Tom Fowlers Company, Hybriweld and Fowler Engine are his kids companies. If for some odd reason you cant get intouch with him go to my web and call me, Ill get Tom or his specialist (peter) to help you out. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
scott 27 months ago	Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me i am lookin for a short hood !!!! thanks!!!!!...scottp2586@yahoo.com - Was this comment helpful? Yes (2) / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	My Lincoln has a 100% Duty Cycle, Its all about whats inside - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	My Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner im selling for $7,500 smokes all other Welders. Forget about Duty Cycle let talk about how smooth does you machine really weld? Hell We can turn any Lincoln into a better than Miller Machine, Why cause we make them... - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No (1) Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana said: My Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner im selling for $7,500 smokes all other Welders. Forget about Duty Cycle let talk about how smooth does you machine really weld? Hell We can turn any Lincoln into a better than Miller Machine, Why cause we make them... Go to my website and give me a call today i might be able to help you out with a short hood if you dont want mine. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	Big B in Amite, Louisiana said: Let me rephrase my question. Looking for someone to completely overhaul Lincoln Sa-200 generator only!!! Will not use arcco, big 3 or similar companies. Had bad luck in the past, need knowledgeable individual in business. Hi, I was just wondering if you were able to speak with Tom Fowler today after we talked? The number you called was my business phone thats why I gave you the other number even tho we all work in the same shops togeather. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks Ken - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
Big B in Amite, Louisiana 27 months ago	Yes I was able to speak to him. Very pleased with the response and knowledge. Will be doing business with him in the very near future. Your help was greatly appreciated. Thanks for the tip!!! Looking forward to making your aquaintance. - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
welderforhire 27 months ago	scott said: i am lookin for a short hood !!!! thanks!!!!!...scottp2586@yahoo.com 1957 shorty last year they made the best machine ever. how much do you want to spend i have 1 that has been completely restored. tried to keep the old school theme. all new upgrades p.c board, oil filter flip, high torque starter, zenith carb, custom altenator, custom mag. 8mm steel core race wires, all new seals and gaskets, new radiator, numbers matching motor, armeture, face plate. i even matched the original hood stickers.murphy switches, cables remote,one of the baddest short hoods out there makes all other lincolns bow down to the original pipeliner !!!!! , - Was this comment helpful? Yes (3) / No Reply - Report abuse
scott 27 months ago	do you have any pics that i could look at!! thanks scott in montana - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
scott 27 months ago	i have a 300d that i sent him he put in a yanmar and 7 gears plus the ack force welds great!!!!!!!!! i am lookin for a short hood!!!!!! thanks scott - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No Reply - Report abuse
scott 27 months ago	welderforhire said: 1957 shorty last year they made the best machine ever. how much do you want to spend i have 1 that has been completely restored. tried to keep the old school theme. all new upgrades p.c board, oil filter flip, high torque starter, zenith carb, custom altenator, custom mag. 8mm steel core race wires, all new seals and gaskets, new radiator, numbers matching motor, armeture, face plate. i even matched the original hood stickers.murphy switches, cables remote,one of the baddest short hoods out there makes all other lincolns bow down to the original pipeliner !!!!! , do you have any pics !! thanks scott - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No (2) Reply - Report abuse
welderforhire 27 months ago	send me your e-mail mine is jtsrigservice@yahoo.com i'll see if i can't take some this week - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana 27 months ago	my addy is fowlerengines@yahoo.com - Was this comment helpful? Yes (1) / No Reply - Report abuse
Fowlerengines in Franklin, Louisiana 26 months ago	Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner Soon to have a Kubota v2203 Diesel. www.fowlerengines.com - Was this comment helpful? Yes / No (1) Reply - Report abuse

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