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Are jobs in this industry on the rise? Are there any sub-sectors that are growing?

Where are the jobs? Which places have the most poker dealer opportunities?

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matt in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

96 months ago

id say growing

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Bill Yanish in Denver, Colorado

81 months ago

They may be growing ,but if your older you might have a hard time . They are hiring more and more inexperienced dealers( 20's) yrs old instead of older more mature . Like myself that has been out of work 2 &1/2 yrs!!!!!!!!!!111 Discrimination!!!!!!!!!!1

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Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada

81 months ago

I am a poker dealer with years of experience in Washington State casinos. I recently moved to Las Vegas and am finding jobs very hard to come by.

It is funny because when I play around town some of the dealers "putting it nicely" are very sub-par and severely lacking in knowledge of the rules, proper technique, appearance, integrity of the game, customer relations, and the demeanor for dealing with customers properly in the game of poker. If I have acted the same in washington I would be fired in a hurry!

I think you have to be lucky to land a good job these days (or know sombody). And the ones that have the jobs, seem not' to know how lucky they are!
Believe me I am trying everything, submitting dozens of applications, using temp services and job center resources, applying for part time, tournament only positions, off strip, on-call, poker brush and poker cashier positions as well. Basically anything to get my foot into the door of a poker room.

It could be I moved in the wrong season (just after the world series of poker).....there could be 500 out of work poker dealers running around town. It could be the hiring process (on-line only) which is just a pain, time consuming, and frustrating. It could be I am not willing to work the "dark side" (blackjack and carnival games) I just think there sad. It could be the economy in the area (very depressed) the money is here, but not flowing like it once had.

I have herd from other web-sites that it takes months for some casinos to get back to you after applying on-line, now, I think this could be true.

In the NorthWest I have never had any of these troubles finding work, or finding such crappy dealers where me as a player has to be on his tows and remind other dealers of the rules, and sit through frustrating technique, terrible integrity of the game, and just bad mannors.

I don't want to discourage you, but seems to me Las Vegas right now, it ain't easy where I thought it would be, and it ain't

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Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada

81 months ago

And it ain't good where it should be.

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Raymond in Maple Shade, New Jersey

80 months ago

I have gone to school and recieved my NJ casino gaminin license. But I can not get an audition.
what Do I DO.

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francisca ramirez in Las Vegas, Nevada

79 months ago

Im a poker dealer,I deal texas holdeam,hi lo omaha, 7 card stad,sams gemes extra all times ,berry smailing,nice and clean

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Raymond in Glendora, New Jersey

79 months ago

I have been trying to get an audtion for six months with no luck

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neil in Minneapolis, Minnesota

79 months ago

Max i'm curious why you left your wash poker job for vegas?Is the $$ better in vegas?I want to move to seattle and was wondering how the poker job market is.I have six years BJ and carni games but only six months of poker exp.How picky is the gamming licence in the state of wash.And could I find work quickly.I would even settle doing some bj and carni to start if it would land me a job quicker. Thanks.

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Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada

79 months ago

neil in Minneapolis, Minnesota said: Max i'm curious why you left your wash poker job for vegas?Is the $$ better in vegas?I want to move to seattle and was wondering how the poker job market is.I have six years BJ and carni games but only six months of poker exp.How picky is the gamming licence in the state of wash.And could I find work quickly.I would even settle doing some bj and carni to start if it would land me a job quicker. Thanks.

Why are we here...my wife has better working opportunities here, and we love the sunny weather. I grew up in Seattle, spent 35 years there, and some times I miss it big. On a nice day it is like heaven on earth loaded with great things to do and lots of musik and clubs...but the rest of the year it is, indoors, dark, wet, traffc-icky and depressing. Remember, people in Seattle dont tan.....they rust.

Bucks are not better for me here...but could be...someday...I hope, I finally got some P/T work and my license in Nevada and have future interviews for full time....it has been, and is, a struggle still for me here.

Washington is expensive for gaming licensing. go to www.wsgc.wa.gov for information, but not much pick-ier than any other places, some card rooms I have worked dont even drug test, the Indian casinos will.

I follow the jobs there and I think I can get work much easier there than here, poker is everywhere in Washington (many-many card rooms). Try Diamond lils in Renton (small but very busy and poker only, good place to work) Muckleshoot Indian Casino in Auburn (south, huge casino very busy and lots of poker and everything else) Tulalip Casino (north, I have seen several ad-verts for dealers there and its a big one) Or the brand-new Indian Casino East, Casino Snoqualmie snocasino.com/index.php#/

Please respect the Indians....we are all, on what should be, their land.

Good Luck. Any more questions, please ask.
Max H

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joey maccani in Las Vegas, Nevada

78 months ago

Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada said: I am a poker dealer with years of experience in Washington State casinos. I recently moved to Las Vegas and am finding jobs very hard to come by.

It is funny because when I play around town some of the dealers "putting it nicely" are very sub-par and severely lacking in knowledge of the rules, proper technique, appearance, integrity of the game, customer relations, and the demeanor for dealing with customers properly in the game of poker. If I have acted the same in washington I would be fired in a hurry!

I think you have to be lucky to land a good job these days (or know sombody). And the ones that have the jobs, seem not' to know how lucky they are!
Believe me I am trying everything, submitting dozens of applications, using temp services and job center resources, applying for part time, tournament only positions, off strip, on-call, poker brush and poker cashier positions as well. Basically anything to get my foot into the door of a poker room.

It could be I moved in the wrong season (just after the world series of poker).....there could be 500 out of work poker dealers running around town. It could be the hiring process (on-line only) which is just a pain, time consuming, and frustrating. It could be I am not willing to work the "dark side" (blackjack and carnival games) I just think there sad. It could be the economy in the area (very depressed) the money is here, but not flowing like it once had.

I have herd from other web-sites that it takes months for some casinos to get back to you after applying on-line, now, I think this could be true.

In the NorthWest I have never had any of these troubles finding work, or finding such crappy dealers where me as a player has to be on his tows and remind other dealers of the rules, and sit through frustrating technique, terrible integrity of the game, and just bad mannors.

I don't want to discourage you, but seems to me Las Vegas right now, it ain't easy

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joey maccani in Las Vegas, Nevada

78 months ago

Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada said: And it ain't good where it should be.

MAX

You wrote an excellent article.
I agree with everything you said. It is actually painful to me, when I play, to watch the dealers cup the cards, remove the burn cards, move the button before the hand is over etc. etc. The truth is management doesnt care. It is all about the drop. The integrity of the game is lost. Its a new generation and we are the old generation. I have a good poker dealing job and I am lucky but I've been here 15 years. There would be no work for me if I lost my job. I actually enjoy dealing poker and working in a room but enthusisam and skill is lost to youth.
If you can get in on the tournament trail and make friends in the right places you have a chance. Keep trying.

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James J in Tampa, Florida

78 months ago

I just recieved my certification for poker and blackjack and am eager to get into the Hard Rock here in Tampa, I just have one problem...... what type of drug testing is administered?? And is it the same for the local dog and horse tracks?

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Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada

78 months ago

James J in Tampa, Florida said: I just recieved my certification for poker and blackjack and am eager to get into the Hard Rock here in Tampa, I just have one problem...... what type of drug testing is administered?? And is it the same for the local dog and horse tracks?

I am almost sure you will get hair tested? but maybe not? Most casinos will. As for the dog track ask a employee.
A pee test for pot will take about three weeks to pass if you go on the wag NOW! Drink a lot of water or Cranberry juice. Other drugs are more or less time. Look on the web for research data on your preferred substance.
As far as hair, I have done research in the past and for every 1/2 inch of hair, they will know what you did for the last 30 days. They need 1 and 1/2 inches of hair for the test, and if it is not on your head they will take it from somewhere else, or go for the roots.
With all the nonsense out there... with hair washes and supposed covers and cures that cost big bucks beware! To the hair-wash-covers... they are getting wise!, they will wash the sample before testing now of days. And the others have very spur-attic results and you will be lucky if they work.
The only way in my book...and others. is to find anti dandruff shampoo with a high amount of "coal tar" additive and use it often.(sounds funky but true!) The smell reminds me of my grandmas old bathroom. I think the amounts are .05% or .005% and I think there is one with .10% or .010% coal tar I can't remember the amounts exactly....There are swimmers shampoos out there that strip the hair of chemicals that wouldn't be a bad thought as well, to use them in conjunction with the other.
Best way ((go on the wag)) cut your hair very short and wait (and shampoo) 60 to 90 days and cut it again and grow it out for the test. That's what I did to be sure, and I still am on the wag.

Hope this helps, I had to give it all up for the love of poker and I am probably better off.
Max

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James in Baltimore, Maryland

77 months ago

I think some of the dealing opportunities would be gone anyway after casinos switch over to the poker tek (www.pokertek.com) tables

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Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada

77 months ago

James in Baltimore, Maryland said: I think some of the dealing opportunities would be gone anyway after casinos switch over to the poker tek ( www.pokertek.com ) tables

I think that is nonsense! The electronic tables have gotten terrible reviews from players (like myself), I have played them at the Excalibur in the tournaments and live games (as a dealer I had to know for myself) and as a player I say they SUCK!....BAD!

People like to fondle cards and chips and enjoy being dealt to. I don't play on the internet but I have in the past.... why not play in the comfort of your home on the internet....than go out out and play on these machines??

The machines are very much geared to loose and terrible play, and seem to have a multitude of amazing one-out wonders on the river. Also I have witnessed (personally) several "working" problems with them just in the several times I have played them. (buttons don't work properly (my menu functions didn't work at one machine), people (myself included) having trouble logging in, 10 players (I was one of them) at a table having to change tables before a tournament because of difficulties in the "works". I am not impressed at all.

In my opinion I think they won't fly in a general sense-but maybe here and there where the idiot casino owners allow it for some freekin reason???. I know for a fact The Excalibur has lost allot of business due to these idiotic machines-(I for one, wont go there again).

In think poker dealers have nothing to worry about. I doubt many more jobs being in jeopardy from these machines. And hopefully I am right!...for all our sakes.

We players will just have to ride this idiocy out like we did with the now defunct Digi-Deal electronic blackjack tables that invaded my home town of Spokane WA. They are no longer around where they once where.

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James in Baltimore, Maryland

77 months ago

I never played on them myself so i have no idea lol. I hate playing online I like home games and casinos b/c of it being a person dealing and you can acsually see them shuffling instead of using some random number generator.

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BRADENTONGUY in BRADENTON, Florida

77 months ago

I am interested in becoming a poker dealer. I live in FL and I am thinking of the seminole indian casino in tampa or my local poker room in Sarasota. Is this a field worth getting into? I was told the pay was very good around 80k a year then after research on the web I found 16k a year plus tips. Which one is more accurate? I am making the switch because I found out that after 13 years with my present employer they are shutting down the plant in June. I am a tool maker but that field is drying up quickly. I love the game of poker. I play constantly so why not learn to deal and work at what I love to play? Sounds like a great idea to me. After reading some of your post I am a little worried. I am 43 years old and I noticed you guys are talking alot about age, is that a big factor? Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
John

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mikelvnv in Las Vegas, Nevada

77 months ago

I'm a vegas resident and some time poker player and the game has definitely been on the decline for a number of years. Most rooms are mostly empty nowadays, and will only have one limit and one no limit game going at any given time. Of course this is also true of many other casino games since the recession has hit this town hard.

I walked by the Golden Nugget poker room today on the way to meet some friends to see a movie and they just had two tables out of nine going, at 2 o clock on a Sunday - there should be more people in there. The fad has most definitely faded. If I were someone looking at working in a casino I'd think about more reliable areas like cooking, cleaning, security or maintenance. Less glamorous, more secure.

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James in Baltimore, Maryland

77 months ago

It depends on when you go and what casino. I usually go to ballys in atlantic city one time I went was on a weekday and there were maybe 1 table for 2 limits and everyone else was playing in the tourny which was maybe 55 players I go couple weeks ago on a saturday the room was almost full think there was maybe 1 or 2 cash tables not filled and the tournament was full.

This recession is hitting all industries so your basically screwed where ever u go lol. Hate to say that but it seems so true and these bailouts aren't helping. If you want to be a dealer go ahead do what you want to do, I don't know how dealer jobs would be I see dealing as if u can't get a job in a casino theres maybe hundreds of home games in between.

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Michael in London, United Kingdom

75 months ago

Hi Guys,

We are just about to launch www.dialadealer.com in the USA. It should hopefully allow dealers to pick up extra work and cash in their local area. Any questions, feel free to drop us an email to theteam@dialadealer.com

Thanks

Mike

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melissa in Charleston, West Virginia

74 months ago

Host said: Are jobs in this industry on the rise? Are there any sub-sectors that are growing?

Where are the jobs? Which places have the most poker dealer opportunities?

Charleston Wv is begging for dealers and the dealers make excellent money

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PokerDealersGal in Hurricane, West Virginia

73 months ago

My husband is a poker dealer in Wv
he makes excellent money averages around 25 30 dollars an hour
and Mardi Gras is a good company to work for.

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lowlimitpokerpro in Midland, Texas

72 months ago

if you are so good at dealing poker, you should try playing poker for a living instead of working as dealers, i am a retired military and supplement my income playing poker at various states traveling with my rv, so if i can, you can.

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PokerDealer in Lithia, Florida

72 months ago

PokerDealersGal in Hurricane, West Virginia said: My husband is a poker dealer in Wv
he makes excellent money averages around 25 30 dollars an hour
and Mardi Gras is a good company to work for.

Can you provide details of where he works in West Virginia?

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real deal poker in Palm Harbor, Florida

72 months ago

James J in Tampa, Florida said: I just recieved my certification for poker and blackjack and am eager to get into the Hard Rock here in Tampa, I just have one problem...... what type of drug testing is administered?? And is it the same for the local dog and horse tracks?
James,

The hard rock does a dna swab of your mouth and it detects marijuana, heroine, speed, cocaine, ecstasy, and some others..

The dog tracks still do a basic piss test which is very beatable

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real deal poker in Palm Harbor, Florida

72 months ago

lowlimitpokerpro in Midland, Texas said: if you are so good at dealing poker, you should try playing poker for a living instead of working as dealers, i am a retired military and supplement my income playing poker at various states traveling with my rv, so if i can, you can.

Hi,

being a dealer does not in any way make you a better player.. Ive dealt for 15yrs in atlantic city and currently own a dealer school in st petersburg and I can tell you that when you deal there are NEVER losing days.. Yes some people can maintain enough profit to play for a living but its very unstable and unpredictable as luck is required instead of 100 skill as in dealing..

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Hopeful Dealer in Sarasota, Florida

72 months ago

Hey Real Deal,

I've already graduated from a class to learn dealing, however I've had a hard time getting an audition anywhere in the Tampa/St.Pete area.

Do you know of any rooms in Florida willing to give a young-starting dealer a shot?

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skinhorse in Las Vegas, Nevada

72 months ago

Host said: Are jobs in this industry on the rise? Are there any sub-sectors that are growing?

Where are the jobs? Which places have the most poker dealer opportunities?

The jobs in AC and vegas are seasonal jobs. May is the hiring season for both. Its easier to stay on part time in atlantic city. In vegas they just hire you as a temp for the wsop or to deal at another casino during the wsop. Colorodo is currently hiring poker dealers.

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skinhorse in Las Vegas, Nevada

72 months ago

Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada said: I am a poker dealer with years of experience in Washington State casinos. I recently moved to Las Vegas and am finding jobs very hard to come by.

It is funny because when I play around town some of the dealers "putting it nicely" are very sub-par and severely lacking in knowledge of the rules, proper technique, appearance, integrity of the game, customer relations, and the demeanor for dealing with customers properly in the game of poker. If I have acted the same in washington I would be fired in a hurry!

I think you have to be lucky to land a good job these days (or know sombody). And the ones that have the jobs, seem not' to know how lucky they are!
Believe me I am trying everything, submitting dozens of applications, using temp services and job center resources, applying for part time, tournament only positions, off strip, on-call, poker brush and poker cashier positions as well. Basically anything to get my foot into the door of a poker room.

It could be I moved in the wrong season (just after the world series of poker).....there could be 500 out of work poker dealers running around town. It could be the hiring process (on-line only) which is just a pain, time consuming, and frustrating. It could be I am not willing to work the "dark side" (blackjack and carnival games) I just think there sad. It could be the economy in the area (very depressed) the money is here, but not flowing like it once had.

I have herd from other web-sites that it takes months for some casinos to get back to you after applying on-line, now, I think this could be true.

In the NorthWest I have never had any of these troubles finding work, or finding such crappy dealers where me as a player has to be on his tows and remind other dealers of the rules, and sit through frustrating technique, terrible integrity of the game, and just bad mannors.

I don't want to discourage you, but seems to me Las Vegas right now, it ain't easy wh

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skinhorse in Las Vegas, Nevada

72 months ago

You are correct vegas poker dealers [most of them] would not make it in atlantic city. If you dont know someone in this town and you dont have a job after the wsop is over your done till next year. The best advice i can give is talk to the people at tony shelton s dealing school in downtown las vegas. They know people and if you deal up to thier standards you will get a shot. Hr is a joke. Its not even about dealing ablities if you dont have the casino personality they wont hire you. Getting a call from these people is like hitting the lottery.

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skinhorse in Las Vegas, Nevada

72 months ago

Raymond in Maple Shade, New Jersey said: I have gone to school and recieved my NJ casino gaminin license. But I can not get an audition.
what Do I DO.

In ac the best thing todo is play in a small room like ballys,showboat,trop. Talk with the floor and ask if they can help. I started dealing in ac 3 years ago and thats how i got an audition. Be happy your in ac because vegas is far worse when it comes to finding a job for expierenced dealers. If a new dealer is in vegas go home.

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that dude in Lakeland, Florida

72 months ago

real deal poker in Palm Harbor, Florida said: Hi,

being a dealer does not in any way make you a better player.. Ive dealt for 15yrs in atlantic city and currently own a dealer school in st petersburg and I can tell you that when you deal there are NEVER losing days.. Yes some people can maintain enough profit to play for a living but its very unstable and unpredictable as luck is required instead of 100 skill as in dealing..

hey. i would love to be a poker dealer. the only places i know of around here is the hard rock and the dog track in st pete. is it hard to get jobs there? i'm assuming you have to go to dealer school to be a dealer, is this true? how much does it cost?

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real deal poker in Palm Harbor, Florida

72 months ago

Yes you need to go to school to be hired.. I own real deal poker academy and we train dealers for blackjack and poker.. If you want to register its $500 for poker and $300 for blackjack..

You can signup online at my website

www.realdealpokeracademy.com

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hopefully in New Port Richey, Florida

71 months ago

hey real deal do you know of anyone hiring now? does your school offer job placement. and the drug test a one time deal or they on going?

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realdealpoker in New Port Richey, Florida

71 months ago

Hey the hiring season starts late summer and picks up oct and november as that's when all the snow birds come to florida and the poker rooms need dealers.. We will teach you the audition process and help with getting you an audition but cant guarantee a job nor can any other establishment.. We start new poker dealer students every monday and we're now located on hillsborough ave in tampa just west of veterans parkway..

www.realdealpokeracademy.com

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sandrahady in Syracuse, New York

70 months ago

anyone know how much a poker dealer makes at hard rock tampa

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realdealpoker in New Port Richey, Florida

70 months ago

Yes hard rock dealers make 200-350 per night sometimes more..

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sandrahady in Syracuse, New York

70 months ago

is it very hard to get in there(hardrock tampa)..i have 10 years dealing, 1 year supervisor..and a native american

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herawati in Las Vegas, Nevada

69 months ago

James in Baltimore, Maryland said: I think some of the dealing opportunities would be gone anyway after casinos switch over to the poker tek ( www.pokertek.com ) tables

Player doesn't enjoy poker tek, one of the poker room in las vegas has to get back to normal poker table with dealer after using poker tek, few months of no business becouse of this mechine.

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fred in Port Richey, Florida

69 months ago

I am going to hard rock in tampa for a job, do they do drug testing and if so what kind and how hard to get in

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sandrahady in Syracuse, New York

69 months ago

i was there...yes on drug testing.....very hard to get in

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fred in Port Richey, Florida

69 months ago

sandrahady in Syracuse, New York said: i was there...yes on drug testing.....very hard to get in

How long ago were you there and what kind of drug test is it..urine-saliva-hair thank you

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fred in Port Richey, Florida

69 months ago

Anyone know what KIND of drug test hard rock casino in tampa does

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vanjob1 in Vancouver, Washington

68 months ago

Max Headroom in Las Vegas, Nevada said: I am a poker dealer with years of experience in Washington State casinos. I recently moved to Las Vegas and am finding jobs very hard to come by.

It is funny because when I play around town some of the dealers "putting it nicely" are very sub-par and severely lacking in knowledge of the rules, proper technique, appearance, integrity of the game, customer relations, and the demeanor for dealing with customers properly in the game of poker. If I have acted the same in washington I would be fired in a hurry!

I think you have to be lucky to land a good job these days (or know sombody). And the ones that have the jobs, seem not' to know how lucky they are!
Believe me I am trying everything, submitting dozens of applications, using temp services and job center resources, applying for part time, tournament only positions, off strip, on-call, poker brush and poker cashier positions as well. Basically anything to get my foot into the door of a poker room.

It could be I moved in the wrong season (just after the world series of poker).....there could be 500 out of work poker dealers running around town. It could be the hiring process (on-line only) which is just a pain, time consuming, and frustrating. It could be I am not willing to work the "dark side" (blackjack and carnival games) I just think there sad. It could be the economy in the area (very depressed) the money is here, but not flowing like it once had.

I have herd from other web-sites that it takes months for some casinos to get back to you after applying on-line, now, I think this could be true.

In the NorthWest I have never had any of these troubles finding work, or finding such crappy dealers where me as a player has to be on his tows and remind other dealers of the rules, and sit through frustrating technique, terrible integrity of the game, and just bad mannors.

I don't want to discourage you, but seems to me Las Vegas right now, it ain't easy wh

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vanjob1 in Vancouver, Washington

68 months ago

Max, I am looking to interview for an accounting job at a casino in Longview wa called Cadillac Island, also one in Kennewick WA. Have you ever worked there? Do you know what the management is like to work for? I have never worked in the gaming industry and just wanted some feedback from anyone who has worked for these owners. In this tight job market I don't want to make a mistake.

Thanks for any help, nancy

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oceangrovekaren@verizon.net in Spotswood, New Jersey

65 months ago

Raymond in Maple Shade, New Jersey said: I have gone to school and recieved my NJ casino gaminin license. But I can not get an audition.
what Do I DO.

Looking to hire a dealer for a birthday party in Dec.
please contact me.
thank you,
Karen

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An in Seattle, Washington

65 months ago

Hello everyone. My friend is about to finish and get his poker license this month. Does anyone in here work at casino in Washington State, Seattle area that has position opening for poker dealer. Could you please help him find a job as a poker dealer. That's all he's interested in is becoming a poker dealer. Please email me at thuyann143@gmail.com if you have any info. Thanks.

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Keith in Glendale, Arizona

65 months ago

Hey i was wondering if anyone knew of any good dealing schools in Arizona. I've had an interest in dealing for awhile but just turned 21. Is it harder or easier being younger to get a job? What is pay like in AZ and all that.. Thanks for the help

-Keith

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Cruz21 in Spring Hill, Florida

65 months ago

I have 15yrs experience. I've been a card room manager for 7yrs.
There are 3 places to work 1 dog track, 1 Jai alia and hard rock.
None will give me the time of day. By The way I was always well liked; I know how to keep people happy. I don't have an attitude in anyway. I deal 27 hands an hour and can deal every game in the casino. However when I look I see just what was said. Good looking 20 something and no experience. Boobs are better then experience. So yes unless your hot, know someone, forget about a poker job!
At least this is true in my area..
I feel sorry for the ones who shell out big bucks at these schools with hopes of a job. Unfortunately the best they will do is work at these fake casino gigs for $50-$150 a night

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