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lety in Vista, California

84 months ago

I HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE IN THE MILITARY FOR GOING AWOL WILL THAT DISQUALIFY ME IF I GET IN THE PROGRAM FOR CNA???? PLEASE ANYONE ANSWER.

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Gary in Centre, Alabama

84 months ago

Med Asst in Bradenton, Florida said: Kimmeh.finally someone with some sense! i was about to ask if mike was a lawyer and member of the bar assc in ALL 50 states considering all states have different laws and restrictions.and as far as being bonded did you not know that the federal bureau of prisons and the govt will bond felons and ex offenders for $50,000? if you didnt then google it. there is also a >$5000 tax deduction for business owners to encourage hiring of ex offenders.also the hiring of felons is the discretion of the business.if you have a felony it may be VERY tough to get into a large corporate practice in ex. hospitals. but if you know your stuff and have credentials mid size and especially smaller practices ( which most offices are) will probably give you a chance.its there office they can do as they please.HOWEVER dont expect this to be true if you have violent or sexual charges. if i sound like i know whatim talking about its because guess what.. im a felon! i had a felony drug charge, guilty without an expungement in 2003. graduated a medical school this year, yes they knew before i started,i recently finished my clinicals and was hired by my site as soon as my hours were done.i work directly with patients,triage, injections, caths,sonograms. some of yall say it cant happen well guess what it does.google AAMA ( american assc of medical assistants) criteria and they will tell you it does not disqualify you and thats national accredidation ( which is not mandatory to work as an M.A. anyways)so it can be done ive done it. Kimmeh, keep up the good work and nicely put. you know you can do already.dont let ignorant nay sayers tell you things you know arent true, especially since your already in the field. i know its hard for people to believe this sometimes, but ive made believers out of some of my friends that thought different and it feels good!!! now some of them ( with records) are enrolling in school for fall.its good to know we have the opper

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imdeborah in Minneapolis, Minnesota

83 months ago

Mike,
Not sure where you are getting your info, because it is really off base. I was able to get licenses in the following stateswith a felony for grand larceny : Georgia, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Alaska, and Minnesota. My felony was 2 years prior to my first obtaining RN licensure and I was still on probation. Oh, and I've since gone back to school and now work for the Federal Government as an advanced practice nurse.

Helpful hint: Be totally honest and thorough on all applications for licensure. Get extra copies of certified court and probation/conviction records. If you don't include everything, they can deny a license saying that you didn't fully disclose something. Include letters of recommendation, etc.

One thing I was not honest with was telling the graduate program that I had a felony when I applied....I knew I could get licensed, and I didn't want the school to make a decision on my future. But they didn't require a background check. I was also prepared that I might not be able to work in advanced practice after graduation. Just took a chance.

Goodluck.

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mike677 in Meridian, Mississippi

83 months ago

Prehaps the information I have gotten from the states nursing boards is wrong, however i have never personally seen a convicted felon be licensed by any nursing board unless 1- A pardon was given 2- an over turning of the conviction 3- an exspungement was granted. Every nursing college classes that i know of does a background check before you are even allowed into the nursing field of study. With background checks now as easy as a click on the net, felons have a very hard chance here in Mississippi of ever landing a good job. I say never give up, we must push for exspungement of felonies after a period of time has passed.

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mike677 in Meridian, Mississippi

83 months ago

Gary in Centre, Alabama said:

I am truly if I offended anyone. No i am not an attorney, however every medical field i have tried to get into in mississippi has a zero tolerance for convicted felons who have an active felony showing on their record. My friend was an R.N. and recieved a nonviolent felony and his license was taken immediately, however every state may not be as cruel as mississippi. As here once you get a felony i found that it becomes extremely difficult to find jobs in most any field now that backgrounds are so easly done.

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smith in Brooklet, Georgia

83 months ago

cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi said: Hi All,

I have a non-violent, non-sex related felony conviction (wire fraud) that has nothing to do with the healthcare field. I'm planning to attend Surgical Tech school in Jan. 08. I was informed by the director of the program that I many not be accepted for clinicals based on the felony. The crazy thing is that I spoke with a number of hospitals about hiring me after graduation from the program and some said it wouldn't be a problem, others said they look a case-by-case.

Can someone please explain why they will hire you to work for them, but won't allow you to do clinicals in their facility. I'm very upset about this...I've been anticipating this career for over 5 years and now that I have a chance to do it...it seems like its being taken away...Even the AST said my felony would not be a problem in getting my certification?!!!

Does anyone here know of anyone that has had a felony and made it through clinicals?

help!!! Cyndy

u need a lawyer...shouldn't cost much...get good one with experience.....to work on your record

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imdeborah in Minneapolis, Minnesota

83 months ago

In my opinion, the expense of getting an attorney for an unlikely chance of an expulsion (especially if you plead guilty and didn't get convicted) is not worth it. Explain your story (but leave out anything about having a lousy lawyer). You really don't need a pardon or expulsion. Really, you don't.

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tom in Chicago, Illinois

83 months ago

cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi said: Hi All,

I have a non-violent, non-sex related felony conviction (wire fraud) that has nothing to do with the healthcare field. I'm planning to attend Surgical Tech school in Jan. 08. I was informed by the director of the program that I many not be accepted for clinicals based on the felony. The crazy thing is that I spoke with a number of hospitals about hiring me after graduation from the program and some said it wouldn't be a problem, others said they look a case-by-case.

Can someone please explain why they will hire you to work for them, but won't allow you to do clinicals in their facility. I'm very upset about this...I've been anticipating this career for over 5 years and now that I have a chance to do it...it seems like its being taken away...Even the AST said my felony would not be a problem in getting my certification?!!!

Does anyone here know of anyone that has had a felony and made it through clinicals?

help!!! Cyndy

I too had a felony in 1980, made it through the 1st year of the program and it came up when I was to start clinicals and was dropped from the program. I then hired a lawyer and spent 1 year getting it removed from my record reapplied and was let back into the 2nd year. I am now working as a CST in Washington state.

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mtubbs in Tulsa, Oklahoma

83 months ago

cris in Brentwood, Tennessee said: It is unfortunate but true. The system is so messed up. I am currently in school studying law and I am going to do what I can to work on giving non-violent felons a chance. We pay our dues and our punishment and we suffer for a lifetime. I have been following some articles and recent movements with regard to the fourth amendment and non-violent felons right to bear arms. The NRA along with one of the Michigan senators is workign to overturn this since it is a violation of our constitutional right to protect our homes. There are a few different cases about it now. That is one step towards helping us get our rights back along with lives.

Why only non-violent felons? I have a violent charge but I was 18 then young and dumb i am in no way a violent person i guess I just wanted to fit in. but that doesnt make any sense. Some of us violent felons want another chance too i have big dreams and even though prison detoured my course im trying to get back on i just dont understand why people choose to just forget about us violent felons who do have a good head and realize their mistakes. i graduated valedictorian of my high school class and finished one year of nursing school at the to0p of my class. I believe I deserve another chance and so does any other felon out there not just the non violent ones or the just the violent ones but felons as a whole and i also believe that the :have you ever been convicted of a felony" question should just be removed completely and be replaced with are do you have any felonies regarding children, murder or any other serious offense as such but not just all violent charges. when employers see that you checked that box next to that question they automatically judge you from the check-mark. That is not fair. Why is this country so UN-just? Honestly I say we rally up as many felons as possible and march down to Washington and stay there protesting until they do something about that.

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Gary in Centre, Alabama

82 months ago

I agree, we all need to do something about it. If they can give a child molester a second chance and allow them back on the street. Why the heck can't we be allowed to do the simple things.

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Julia in Miami, Florida

82 months ago

I have an appointment with the admissions person and the director of the program and possibly the dean to explain about my felony conviction 8 years ago I am stressing but hopeful that I will be admitted in Febuary

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Cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi

82 months ago

I work for a nursing home. Baptist Hospitals in MS will not hire you if you have a felony. St. Francis Hospital in Memphis, TN I believe will hire you but I checked with several CST classes and all of them said that with the felony I probably wouldn't be able to do my clinical because of the hospital policies.

doME in Irving, Texas said: Hey, what hospital do you work at? if you were cleared to work as a CNA in a hospital, take that background check to the school where you are trying to enroll. they should take a cleared background check from that facility and that should clear you for clinicals. call and ask. I also have wire fraud charge. i googled "can wire fraud disqualify from working at a hospital" and ran across your post. I only have one semester left. I am in the process of trying to find a job so that I can finish up my last semester of nursing school. I got charged while I was in nursing school, and failed the last semester. I was not able to go back until i had a decision on my status. I plead guilty. But, anywho, I feel better knowing that there is someone in the state of Mississippi (i am also in mississippi) that has a fed charge and works in a hospital. its encouraging for me. Good Luck

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Cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi

82 months ago

(cont.) If people aren't given second chances in life, how do you expect them not to repeat offend? I was once like you, thought if you committed a crime you got exactly what you deserve. Had a great career, never even got a speeding ticket. Model citizen. Due to one incredibly stupid moment in my life where I had a lack of judgment, I now have to live with this mistake for the rest of my life, because it can never be expunged. So I just want to say be careful who you associate yourself with, try to be understanding that no one is perfect and people deserve to be forgiven for mistakes, but most importantly be very careful when speaking to people from so high up because there could come a time when circumstances could bring you down off that pedestal. Believe me when I say its a long fall.

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Cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi

82 months ago

Thank you. I overlook people like her, because at one time I was like her. Its a long fall down from so high on that pedestal, I hope she never has to take it.

wwwangel29 in Bronx, New York said: How about the Circulators, Surg Techs and Surgeons with no records that make huge mistakes in the operating rooms and cover it up... this happens all the time.. or the surgeon with the horrible temper that curses and intimidates his co workers. Just because a person has a record does not make them incapable and incompetent of performing these job functions, you never, know a convicted felon may actually make the best surg tech, these things that you are talking about happen every day and most likely by people with no record, what are you really saying that people with criminal records should not be hired at all.. So a person with a criminal record is incapable of being honest while performing counts and taking care of patients? Not all people are the same, you are stereotyping convicted felons and putting everyone in one box.. this is why when hiring a convicted felon it is decided on a case by case basis...

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Cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi

82 months ago

Bless you! Not all convicted felons are out to destroy the world or steal from someone. People make mistakes and because of one mistake, people like "Denise, CST,FA" are the reason that there are so many repeat offenders. People on here comment based on what we put down, and assume the rest. They really don't know anyone's circumstances for doing the crime in the first place, but once a person apologizes and does the time for the crime, why does society really need to continue to punish them for it? Can anyone answer that question?

wwwangel29 in Bronx, New York said: Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to say the best person to find out if you will have a problem in getting certified or obtaining a license would be the associations that represent your field. I will soon be going to nursing school, (after I finish getting my Surgical Technology Associates Degree, which will be early next year) and I called the NYS State Board of Nursing, I spoke to a representative and she informed me that the NYS State Board of Nursing reviews cases on a case by case basis, she told me not to listen to people saying that I won't get hired or licensed because of having a record, she told me THEY are the ones that make the decision if I can get my RN license.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this forum, which is great, as for me I will continue to pursue my goals and dreams, regardless of what people on this forum say, good luck to everyone, stay inspired, determined, persistent, optimistic, and ambitious!!!

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imdeborah in Chadron, Nebraska

82 months ago

Sharon in New York, New York said: It all depends on the State you are living in. The best thing to do after being either released from confinement or probation is to apply for a Certificate of Relief from Criminal Disabilities or a Certificate of Good Conduct. This will help in obtaining a State license for those with State or Federal Convictions.
It may be necessary to move to a different State though as I mentioned above because certain State are better than others in terms of civil rights protection.

Normally, northern States have better laws against discrimination in employment following a criminal conviction. In New York State for instance nobody can be discriminated because of a criminal record. In fact it's even easy to be hired as a fireman/woman.

So, it's possible to find employment in the medical field or any other field with a criminal record but job-seekers may have to shop around and do some home-work.

I also was convicted in New York. After I was off probation I requested a "Certificate of Relief of Disabilities" from the sentencing judge. (and I got it) This basically recommends that you not be barred from licensure or employment based on the conviction. I think that some employers are afraid NOT to hire you with this certificate if you are otherwise qualified.

I was convicted in 1990, and I have not been turned down for any licenses since.(PA, GA, MN, AK, NM)

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mike677 in Meridian, Mississippi

82 months ago

come to mississippi, these bible thumpers here will quickly turn you down, reguardless of rehabilitation.

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a whited in Culpeper, Virginia

80 months ago

Can I become A cna and get hired after being convicted of forgery 15 years ago in the state of Va

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dan in Concord, New Hampshire

80 months ago

lety in Vista, California said: I HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE IN THE MILITARY FOR GOING AWOL WILL THAT DISQUALIFY ME IF I GET IN THE PROGRAM FOR CNA???? PLEASE ANYONE ANSWER.

The VA office nearest you and/or the school you are applying to can answer any questions you have about how/if your dishonorable discharge will affect your educational prospects. I know that you lost any GI Bill money you might have gotten due to your dishonorable discharge. All else is on a case by case basis.

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imdeborah in La Plata, New Mexico

80 months ago

a whited in Culpeper, Virginia said: Can I become A cna and get hired after being convicted of forgery 15 years ago in the state of Va

In my opinion, yes. Please read some of the posts above.

I need to temper my comment, though. Before I became a nurse I filled out dozens of applications for home health jobs. I had good experience and qualifications but did not get one job offer. Now that I'm a licensed person, I have never been turned down for a job. I think the only difference is the length of time since your conviction. 15 years is plenty to show that you've turned your life around, haven't reoffended, etc.

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lisa in Van Nuys, California

77 months ago

I was convicted of a Class II Felony (Conspriracy to Transport Marijuana for Sales for 300lbs of Pot)in 1987 (24 YEARS) and have spent the last 18 years working in the mortgage industry as an Underwriter. I was planning on starting school for Ultrasound Technician this month and have now been advised by the school that they will not allow me to enroll unless I get a letter stating that the certification board (ARMDS) will state that they will allow me to take the Exam once I have completed 2 yrs of school and 1 yr of Internship. I have requested my court documents and must comply with the online overview of what they require and pay $125 to have their Board review and approve or reject my request to complete schooling and requirements and be allowed to take test and become certified. Has anyone out there completed this process? Been successful in obtaining approval from the Board ARMDS to take Certification Test? If anyone is familiar with this process, I would greatly appreciate any input or advise they may have to offer. I also had a DUI in 1994. Can any please help?
Thanks so much!

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bre in Mentor, Ohio

77 months ago

Hello I know some post on here are ry old but guess we all on here have something in common we all paid are dues and have to live with it for the rest of our live and that is not right if we all stick together and write to the congress and keep it up they wioll listen that the problem we do not stick together we something this is our life isthis what we want to give up I know I o not it is a web site call hard2hire.com and it is forreal with job for felony and guess what when you sign up it ask you about your past so the job's on there already know I have calles several jobs that said they will and that was at a nusing home and I wasnt to be an RN it is vey possiable for those who moght want t work n the health care field might have to move to find a good job that what I am doing if any one has ay question please look me up. But come on everyone let's stand up it is time every one stand up for health care why need to make a change let's get it

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liza9897 in Chicago, Illinois

77 months ago

Cyndy in Cleveland, Mississippi said: Thanks for the encouragement, but my felony is federal and can't be expunged. Believe me I've checked on it. I'm currently working as a CNA now. I'm trying to wait until 2010, when I come off probation to apply to school. The felony will be 5 years old and maybe the board won't look so hard at it. All I can do it try. If its for me than God will make sure I get it.

Cyndy

hi i am going through a federal case now and am a cna but cant find a job. so wat will i be able to go to school for?

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liza9897 in Chicago, Illinois

77 months ago

tom in Chicago, Illinois said: I completed my 1st year of a surg tech program and was removed from the program before clinicals because of a felony back in 1980. I hired a lawyer and got the conviction exspunged and was let back back into the program and am now working as an CST. To get it exspunged there were rules, no other convictions of any king since the conviction, no exceptions. It took almost a year but I did it, so be patient not easy but it can be done.

hey tom i just got a wire fraud felony which is federal and could not be expunged but am currently a cna i was wondering wat i can continue in school as? i am also from chicago and looking for a job as a cna or secertary if you know anybody please let me know? thank you, maria.

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cameron in Portland, Oregon

77 months ago

fed m.a. said: There's about 6 of us who all just got out of the. Feds in Florida,most of us are working as med assts but a friend of mine from. The same halfway house had bank fraud and wire fraud and she's working as a pharmacy tech,so you should be fine

are you serious? i have two misdeamdors for driving on suspended license convictions and toi thought it would be pointless to even try going to medical assistant school,, oh i live in florida by the way just visiting portland

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lindaklook in Elmhurst, Illinois

75 months ago

cguess23@yahoo.com in Brentwood, Tennessee said: This is really important for all felons to read. There is a bill that is up that will offer expungement of some non-violent felons. It is called the SECOND CHANCE FOR EX-OFFENDERS ACT OF 2009. Write to your state officials in support of this bill. I have attached a link to it here. It would be a great help for non-violent felons. www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_1529.html

I also wrote to some of the reps that are in support thanking them and telling them my story. Please do the same. Take the time because our voices have a chance to be heard.

www.thepetitionsite.com/1/from-freedom-to-forgiveness check out this petition


Can you give me more information on the second chance for ex-offenders act? I am off parole on Aug. 27,2011 and want to go to school to become a surgicsl tech,but don't know if possible because of my background of a drug poss.I have been clean for 20 months and my sponer is willing to write a letter to help me get into the program. Do you have any answers for me? thank-you, Linda

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lindaklook in Elmhurst, Illinois

75 months ago

ladybug63 in Becket, Massachusetts said: Hi everyone..I am really concerned that once I graduate from surgical tech school, my past my haunt me...I am a recovering addict and I am afraid that once I start applying at the local hospitals for a job, I may not have a chance at it due to I have been red flagged at the hospitals for opiate addiction. does anyone have any info that they can share to help ease my fear.
Thanks, any advise would be greatly appreciated!!

Dear Ladybug, Just be honest with them and tell them how far you have come from your past.I too am in recovery with a felony for heoine,have been sober for 20 months and see my sponer every week. She said she would write a letter for me.I also am interested in going to school for surgical tech. I am praying on it. Good luck to you ,and let me know how everything turns out. Linda

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Lay Lay in Las Vegas, Nevada

75 months ago

elle in San Diego, California said: I have a non violent felony (welfare fraud) from over 14 years ago. since then i have worked and paid my fine off. I too went into the medical field and my record keeps popping up. I cant do my clinicals I was told . But I havent even tried due to embarassment if it shows up. Its not like a DUI or a drug offense. I just worked part time while collecting welfare trying to get off of the aid. My Bad, I would of been better off with a heavy drug charge just shy of a felony! sad huh?

What you all don't understand is that your allowing that invisble noose to stay around your neck. You should seek to expunge or seal your record its not hard.. After so long you can do it, and no employers will be able to seek that part of your employment..

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brandi_bbh in Arvada, Colorado

74 months ago

wwwangel29 in Bronx, New York said: Med Asst you are right on, I also commend you for staying determined and ambitious!! This is truly inspiring!! I too believe that any one can achieve what they set their mind to!!! Some people just lose hope, but everyone stay optimistic!! It may be hard but you can do it!!! I'm a Surgical Technology student, I have 1 more semester to go before clinicals, it is possible!! Let's all keep the faith!! I wish great success to you as well, stay encouraged and ambitious!! Thanks Med Asst!!

Any updates? Any luck finding job?

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brandi_bbh in Arvada, Colorado

74 months ago

Come on there has to be more positive stories. Updates on these posts from along time ago. I google felon success stories an dcant find anything. Really no new 2011 posts either.

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MandyNa in Marysville, Ohio

73 months ago

Hello, Im Mandy, I like the way you think. I read your response and had a question for you. An elderly friend of mine is in a tough situation and I thought maybe you would have some advice. She is about to be released from prison on August 5, 2011 after 1 1/2 years. Her children are reluctant to have her stay with them because they have children and are afraid because she has been encarcerated. I am trying to help in any way I can. She is 67 years old and has never been in trouble before this. She was encarcerated for supposedly taking advantage financially of a woman she was caring for. The story goes that she was set up by the broker of the lady bc her will was changed to include her and not the broker. So in this story two elderly individuals were targets in my opinion. So, she has no where to go when she gets out. Also, she was physically assulted while in prison and has had a stroke d/t the assault so she is unable to work now. Do you know of any resources available to help her in this situation? Housing? work? income? Im desperate for information as she gets out in less than two weeks.

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Liza in Chicago, Illinois

73 months ago

Hi Mandy, I am very sorry to here about your friend and think that is horrible that they gave her any time due to the fact she has never been in trouble and is elder. I don't know too much about the law but what I have learned is that the probation officers should be able to help her get back on her feet. Especially because of her condition. If u don't mind me asking, why was she assaulted? Also is she in federal prison and what court system did she go to? I hope this helps you, I will try to do some research for you. I will pray for your friend for the best.

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Cat in Utica, New York

73 months ago

Sorry about the previous spelling errors and typos, I neglected to spell and spot check. For all you 'Spelling Police' out there, please forgive me, lol.

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gbuersmeyer in Saint Louis, Missouri

72 months ago

ladybug63 in Becket, Massachusetts said: Hi everyone..I am really concerned that once I graduate from surgical tech school, my past my haunt me...I am a recovering addict and I am afraid that once I start applying at the local hospitals for a job, I may not have a chance at it due to I have been red flagged at the hospitals for opiate addiction. does anyone have any info that they can share to help ease my fear.
Thanks, any advise would be greatly appreciated!!

im reading every bodies questions and i have one i was convicted of a felony my ex husband murdered my daughter when she was 4 she would now be 21,anyway i went to prison for 120days 14 years ago and now it coming back to haunt me cause i cannot get a job,and i cannot get it expunged in the state of missouri,is there some where else ican go to take my certification as a surgical technologist.i'm asking cause i feel the same way you do,im going thru all this traning will i be able to get a job in the field im going to school for?

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diva in Vienna, Virginia

72 months ago

I have a misdemeanor[embezzlement] of less than $200. It has been 5 yrs since the incident. It is the only record I have. I want to study nursing and/ or public health and work in NGO and INGO like WHO and UN.
Can any one tell if I will get any job?? The charge was charged in Va, so can it be Expunged?

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diva in Vienna, Virginia

72 months ago

I have a misdemeanor[embezzlement] of less than $200. It has been 5 yrs since the incident. It is the only record I have. I want to study nursing and/ or public health and work in NGO and INGO like WHO and UN.
Can any one tell if I will get any job?? The charge was charged in Va, so can it be Expunged? there was no probation, but I was fined which is already paid.

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Beachie Girl in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

71 months ago

I have 4 feloney drug charges from 8 yr's ago and misd. sex charges from 8 yr's ago. I finished school for Massage Therapy and was at first denied my National License, I filed an appeal and won because of my strong reference letters and all that I have done to change my life!!!!! I applied for a Florida State License and was informed of a law that was passed in July 1st 2011, that says it has to be fifthteen yr's since my last day of probation and feloney. I have a lawyer working on this and I am not going to give up. I have payed my dues and have changed every area of my life. There has to be something that I can do to be able to work in this field.

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wrong turn in life in Green Bay, Wisconsin

71 months ago

Marie0182 in Minnesota said: I was just curious if anyone knows anything about the Surgical Tech programs in Minnesota. I am currently seeking admission into a few of them and know they run criminal background checks. Within the past year I have gotten a DUi and want to know if this is going to hinder my chances at all? I am most interested in learning about St. Cloud tech and St. Mary's in MPLS. THANKS!

good luck, with a dui ontop of your charge, in minnesota they dont have much pity for dui drivers, i would look into it and ask a school conselor, i think they would be able to answer that for you. i lived in that state too and man, that state isnt so sympathetic to unfortunate people like us.

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TEAG in Arvada, Colorado

71 months ago

teddybare842 in Brighton, Michigan said: A felony is a felony...dosent matter if it was alcohol or murder. Welfare fraud is worse than dui...you lied to the state to get something that was you were not entitled to. DUI a person just drank!

That is NOT true! There are those out there who were convicted of a felony when it was NOT warranted, NOT deserved, and NOT proven. For those who have these unjust convictions they are victims of circumstance and were ill-advised by their public defender or the DA's office. In my case I was given INCORRECT advice by my social worker about an death insurance policy from my mother. I reported the receipt of this small check just as I was supposed to do. My worker at that time was a temporary case worker and she told me that she would file the appropriate report in my file. She did NOT do what she said she would do. Consequently, during a custody battle my EX accused me of welfare fraud in an attempt to get out of paying child support for my daughter, which started the whole farce rolling. The investigator continued the BS I was being fed by telling me that it would just be considered like an interest free loan from the state because it was such a small amount. NOT TRUE! This was in CA where all of this took place over 16 years ago. I no longer live in that state and feel sorry for all those poor saps who still live there. That is THE most CROOKED state in the Union!! The cops are crooked, the judicial system is crooked, the politicians are crooked! They do NOT care whether a person is actually GUILTY or not! They will CONVICT anyway so that they can rape you for whatever money they can get out of you. I TOLD THE TRUTH FROM DAY ONE BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER. I FOLLOWED INSTRUCTIONS FROM THOSE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEIR JOBS, now I'm STUCK with the consequences of their ignorance and my inability to KNOW that they were giving me WRONG information/instructions!

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Kona in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

70 months ago

TEAG, you are so right about Cali. My brother was convicted in 1988 of a felony, first offense and they thru the book at him. He had 1 more which gave him his first strike. After that ANY misdemenaor offense automatically turns into a Felony even though the actual charge isnt. He is lucky he is now off paper almost 2 years. We are moving to Colorado in the spring. His last conviction was 2003. served his time, ordered 2 years in a program, unfortantley had a violation, but serve his last year on parole and has been clean ever since. Since his last conviction was 8 years ago, will the violation count??? What is the real work situtaion in Colorado??? Even looking fo an apartment??? I will have the stable background and earnings, but he will live with me.. What are his honest chances?

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TEAG in Commerce City, Colorado

70 months ago

I think his chances of finding gainful employment are pretty good. he can do manual labor,ie working on road crews and things like that. I don't know what his convictions were for so I can't speak to how a company will view them in regards to the job, but I've only had the ONE conviction in my 59 years of life and my concerns are that now that I have spent over $20k getting my degree, that I won't be able to actually find work in the Health Care Administration/Medical records field. Even though it's been nearly 20 years since. I completed my community service, no jail time, and completed my probation period and have had NO other legal issues so I'm hoping that my NOT yet finding a job is due to NO experience in the particular field and that there are just to many other qualified candidates also looking for work as admin assistants etc. but then an employer or potential employer doesn't have to tell you WHY they aren't hiring you so I am still left to wonder...is it my background or is it just a flooded market for people who have my qualifications. This is the longest I've gone w/out work so it's a mystery to me. Where in CO are you moving to?

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toniagibbs in Federal Heights, Colorado

70 months ago

Kona in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: TEAG, you are so right about Cali. My brother was convicted in 1988 of a felony, first offense and they thru the book at him. He had 1 more which gave him his first strike. After that ANY misdemenaor offense automatically turns into a Felony even though the actual charge isnt. He is lucky he is now off paper almost 2 years. We are moving to Colorado in the spring. His last conviction was 2003. served his time, ordered 2 years in a program, unfortantley had a violation, but serve his last year on parole and has been clean ever since. Since his last conviction was 8 years ago, will the violation count??? What is the real work situtaion in Colorado??? Even looking fo an apartment??? I will have the stable background and earnings, but he will live with me.. What are his honest chances?

This website apparently has a mind of it's own when it comes to noting where a person lives. This one first had me in Arvada, CO then when I first replied to you Kona, it had me in Commerce City, CO, I'm actually in Federal Heights. Weird right? Anyway, I think your bro should be able to find a job here.

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DOSOMETHING in Richmond, Kentucky

70 months ago

Everyone of you who are complaining, google "We Deserve Our Lives Back". A fellow felon has a link that allows you to sign a petition for a bill to be passed to make it a law, which gives non-violent felons a chance at expungement by fulfilling certain goals made by your probationer or paroler (employment, no more criminal convictions in a certain # of years, rehab if drug/alcohol related, etc.) PLEASE sign the petition or we will still be complaining 10 to 50 years from now!!!!

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toniagibbs in Federal Heights, Colorado

70 months ago

Dear DOSOMETHING,
Thanks for the link! I am headed there now to sign the petition but I do have a wee question...Once a person has been convicted of a felony their voting rights are revoked is this not correct? If so then does it do us any good to sign a petition if it will, eventually, be considered null and void? Will it actually count? I'm gonna give it a shot just the same but I am curious because there a some petitions that are certainly worth signing and becoming a part of for a better AMERICA and a better LIFE FOR AMERICANS. Don't you think?

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kona in Boca Raton, Florida

70 months ago

TEAG

We are moving to the Denver area. Loooking forward to it. Im anxious to get out of Florida and he is happy to say good bye to Cali and all the crap that belongs there. His last conviction was for a minor drug thing, 2003. wasnt even doing anything actually, found something old in his car. Had to serve 39 months.. SO we are hoping that because the actual conviction will be 9 years old when we get there that will help. I know some employers look at the length of time off paper, which will only be 2 years. HE has worked at Americorps for the last year, has a 4.0 for the last 2 years in school as a PSY major,, fingers crossed... :)

DOSOMETHING: Will check it out.

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toniagibbs in Federal Heights, Colorado

70 months ago

Hi Kona,
Most employers only track back 7 years but there are those who ask "have you EVER" been convicted of a felony. I find in those situations you just answer honestly and they will consider ALL information etc. I did run into ONE staffing company here in CO who really played a good game and said they would call forward me testing material but in truth they NEVER got past the fact that there was a conviction at all, even though they DID ASK me about it and I explained the circumstances. It made NO difference, they couldn't get me out of the office fast enough! It was bogus. I did end up sending the staffing agent a VERY nasty email telling him he was in NO WAY professional, respectful, considerate, or even HUMAN to so blatantly LIE to my face and give me the bums rush out the door. I told him I would do my BEST to make sure that any potential contractors or contract-ees knows what kind of DISreputable company they are! NO one NOT ONE single person who has PAID their debt deserves to be treated so despicably! I told him he was SHAMEFUL and I wouldn't work for or through his company if it was the ONLY place who would hire me! Needless to say I was FURIOUS! Absolutely LIVID!!
Bottom line, honesty IS the best policy especially when one is allowed their explanation.
P.S. Congratulations to your brother for getting the F outta DODGE otherwise known as CA. He wouldn't by chance, be coming from the high desert, Victorville area would he? My daughter and grandkids live in Victorville, Hesperia area. That's where I lived when I got my conviction compliments of her father. You wanna talk about a CROOKED COUNTY!! SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY IS without a doubt THE MOST crooked county I have EVER had the misfortune to live in!! The cops are crooked the courts are crooked! The DA's office is Crooked! That place needs to be wiped off the bloody map! Well, once my daughter and grandkids get out of there anyway. All the best!

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Kona in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

70 months ago

TEAG, no sorry from South Bay.

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Chelsea in Kissimmee, Florida

70 months ago

i live in Florida and im looking at possibly getting charged w/ felonys for theft. i didnt think this would affect my career choice b/c i've always planned on being a hair stylist. come to find out i cant become a licensed hair stylist w/ a felony. -_-. i was wondering if i DO get these charges. is there a way to request to someonneee for me to be able to obtain that license? or am i just screwed? and im 19 so could that work in my favor?

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toniagibbs in Federal Heights, Colorado

70 months ago

Definitely worth speaking to your attorney or your attorney or public defender about this. Also ask about getting the conviction expunged if you are convicted. If you are and you don't have jail time request as much community service time as you can get and finish it ALL then when you have completed your probation commitment then talk to your attorney again about getting your conviction expunged. If you are granted an expungment then it will be like the conviction never happened and you never have to talk about it again.

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Chelsea in Kissimmee, Florida

70 months ago

thanks ill definitely do that :D

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