YTB, Traverus, WorldVentures

I'm would like to get involved with one of these programs. I've just become a stay at home mom. I'm looking to supplement our income a bit. Needless to say travel benefits is not the main goal here, we won't be traveling for awhile (just had triplets)!! I'm looking for some feedback on these programs; negatives/positives/costs involved....Thanks

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Hi Airk1,
You're going to here all kind of people with different companies try to promote whichever one is best. I am a homebased travel agent. If you would like truly unbiased information please email me. I've done my research and I know which ones are legitimate and which ones are scams. Travelmuch@live.com

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Has are forum been frozen. What ever happened to freedom of speach

YTB, Traverus and World Ventures are MLMs and Card Mills. The money is made in recruiting others and NOT the actual sale of travel. Being a travel agent is hard work. There is no such thing as an instant travel agent.

travelresearchonline.com/cardmills/

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airk1 in Illinois said: I'm would like to get involved with one of these programs. I've just become a stay at home mom. I'm looking to supplement our income a bit. Needless to say travel benefits is not the main goal here, we won't be traveling for awhile (just had triplets)!! I'm looking for some feedback on these programs; negatives/positives/costs involved....Thanks

travelpro in Dublin, Ohio said: YTB, Traverus and World Ventures are MLMs and Card Mills. The money is made in recruiting others and NOT the actual sale of travel. Being a travel agent is hard work. There is no such thing as an instant travel agent.

travelresearchonline.com/cardmills/

World Ventures has three great products that can be sold, or simply used. World Ventures is a great home business with little $ needed to get started. World Ventures forbids its reps from claiming to be travel agents. The Reps market memebrships that allow the person to travel at deep discounts.

For travel professionals, TraVerus’ offer can be quickly identified as a multilevel network-marketing scheme offering rewards for building the network’s membership as well as for travel sales. But to the unwary consumer the offer appears a legitimate business opportunity - and in an economic downturn a possible source of added income. Its doubtful that the average consumer is aware of the bankruptcy of Joystar or the allegations against YTB by the attorney generals of California and Illinois.

LOS ANGELES–California Attorney General Edmund G. Brown Jr. sued YourTravelBiz.com for operating a gigantic pyramid scheme that recruited tens of thousands of members with deceptive claims that members could earn huge sums of money through its online travel agencies…

…Today’s lawsuit against YourTravelBiz.com, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court today, is attached. The lawsuit also names affiliates which include YTB Travel Network, Inc., YTB Travel Network of Illinois,Inc., as well as the company’s founders J. Lloyd Tomer, J. Scott Tomer, J. Kim Sorensen and Andrew Cauthen.

Your Travel Biz.com (YTB), one of the hottest MLMs, a member of the Direct Selling Association and a company that is publicly traded on the stock exchange, has just been sued by the Attorney General of California for operating a "gigantic pyramid scheme." YTB has a "sales force" of over 340,000 and drew nearly 20,000 participants to its annual meeting in St. Louis. In the last year, the number of YTB "agents" grew 67%.

Pyramid Scheme Alert has had a report about YTB on its site for several months and noted that the "travel" scheme was the target of protests from legitimate independent travel agents.

Additionally, commission payout data on YTB are analyzed and included in the special report from Pyramid Scheme Alert, entitled the Myth of MLM Income Opportunity. The report revealed that:

* Just 1 in 2,000 (0.05%) of all YTB agents received over 48% of the total commission payout;
* 1 in 300 (0.36%) received 70% of total payout;
* The bottom 99% of the agents received a mean average of just $1.68 per week.
* YTB, like other MLMs, sends nearly all the money directly to the top, while promising "income" to those at the bottom. In fact, the money lost by those at the bottom is the profit to those on the top!
* Also, like nearly all other MLMs, YTB sales representatives seldom "retailed" the product of travel services. They merely "sold to themselves", i.e., "self-consumed". Each distributor's profits came from fees and purchases paid in by those in their "downline."

From the press release of the California Attorney General:
"YourTravelBiz.com operates a gigantic pyramid scheme that is immensely profitable to a few individuals on top and a complete rip-off for most everyone else," Attorney General Brown said. "Today's lawsuit seeks to shut down the company's unlawful operation before more people are exploited by the scam.
"YourTravelBiz.com and its affiliates operate an illegal pyramid scheme that only benefits members if and when they find enough new members to join the scam. Once enrolled, members who join the pyramid scheme earn compensation for each new person they enlist, regardless of whether they sell any travel. The company lures new members by offering huge income opportunities through online travel agencies yet the typical person actually makes nothing selling travel."

MLM in the travel business in particular preys upon those that can least afford to lose money. They promise riches, free travel, etc. and all then end up doing is ruining the reputation of honest Travel Agents. Among those that need to be stopped are YTB, World Ventures, Traverus, Coastal Vacations, and I'm sure many others. These pyramid schemes do nothing but make the people at the top rich and those at the bottom lose their whole “investment.”

One important thing to note is you are clearly pointing the finger at YTB, who yes, has had a questionable business plan. Don’t confuse them with World Ventures! World Ventures has a great opportunity for entrepreneurs and a wonderful travel membership for those who want to travel on twenty cents on the dollars. World Ventures will be to the travel experience what Starbucks has been to the coffee experience. I am a member. I joined to take the Dream Trips, I didn’t pay that much. I was never told I would make millions of dollars! In fact when I joined I was given a company disclosure statement on the business side of it.
YTB Travel Claims Pyramid Settlement, California Attorney General Says No.
LegalNewsLine:
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Legal Newsline)-Contrary to an e-mail sent to its sales force, the California Attorney General's Office said it has not reached an agreement with YourTravelBiz.com.

The Midwest-based Internet travel company claimed it has reached a settlement with the California Attorney General's office that would allow it to stay in business, according to a report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Tuesday. The company's stock prices rose with the report of the settlement.

But Scott Gerber, director of communications for the California attorney general's office said the announcement was premature.

"Attorney General Brown sued YTB last year to block it from operating its illegal pyramid scheme," Gerber said. "There is no final agreement at this point, and the attorney general would not enter into any settlement that did not change how YTB markets and operates its business in California so that consumers are protected."

According to the Post-Dispatch, YTB sent a e-mail to is sales force last night saying the company had reached a "tentative settlement agreement" with Attorney General Jerry Brown, who sued the company for $25 million.

When he filed the suit, Brown said the company was operating a "gigantic pyramid scheme," which the compa

If you're going to listen to Bosco you may want to do a little research on him in this forum. He is very active in telling everyone about his opinion on things, which isn't always accurate. He has given false information at times. Be aware, he has an agenda of bashing MLM's and home based businesses, with good and bad information both.

Indeed :) It's a real shame!
An excellent book on the business is:
The New Professionals: The Rise of Network Marketing As the Next Major Profession
by James W. Robinson & Charles King
I am very interested in Dr. Charles King, professor of marketing at the University of Illinois at Chicago who has used World Ventures in this book, as an example of success in the industry. "
King is a Harvard Graduate and currently a professor at UofC

Osuileabaum in Southfield, Michigan said: One important thing to note is you are clearly pointing the finger at YTB, who yes, has had a questionable business plan. Don’t confuse them with World Ventures! World Ventures has a great opportunity for entrepreneurs and a wonderful travel membership for those who want to travel on twenty cents on the dollars.

Really? Well here's a link you should check out:

masterdebater.fortunecity.com/Rants/World%20Ventures%20Analysis.htm

It details how you'll end up losing money with World Ventures . . .

To clarify, WorldVentures was launched December 10,2005
Company is based in Plano Texas and was totally debt free in its third month of business.

WV is a fully bonded and licensed travel company, with over 55,000 Reps in the company in two years and has sole proprietary booking technoloy

WV has a travel club membership called DreamTrips. This is a totally different "product" that being a Leisure Travel Consultant. This product can stand on its own.

It is actually very forward thinking comcept, allowing people to book their own travel and the travel of others through a website that is theirs rather than going through other search engines such as Orbitz etc. In my humble opinion it is a very exciting opportunity for people that like to travel and know people that like to travel. If its not for you, then you shouldn't join but if it is, it can be a new way to enhance your income. For those of you out there that are curious, please feel free to email directly.

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: Really? Well here's a link you should check out:

masterdebater.fortunecity.com/Rants/World%20Ventures%20Analysis.htm

It details how you'll end up losing money with World Ventures . . .

Hmmm. Bosco, your analysis makes no sense. Keeping it simple. If you recruit 4 ppl under you. You have already made a small profit and there are no monthly dues. Regardless if you travel or not.

I think you are overanalyzing this and confusing yourself in the process.

hi yes world ventures is a great business i love it but I will be honest you do have to work to make money but it is a great stay at home job! www.supertrips.info put this in the address bar

check out supertrips.info

Here's a link to a website that gives some good information on how to avoid the many home-based travel agent scams that are out there:

www.homebasedtravelagent.com/scams.htm

Be sure to do your research and don't fall victim to those looking to rip you off . . .

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: Really? Well here's a link you should check out:

masterdebater.fortunecity.com/Rants/World%20Ventures%20Analysis.htm

It details how you'll end up losing money with World Ventures . . .

That's funny. I am in WorldVentures for only 3 months and already made 3 times what I put into it and will never pay them another cent for any of my products or the business. Try getting both sides. If you aren't willing to pay the price (do the work), you will lose money in ANYTHING! It's a $360 investment for everything with WV. Try buying a McDonalds franchise. It will cost you $2Million before you even get a building and you get $150K a year profit back. So you have to go into your 14th year before you make your initial investment back. Go to college for 8 years to become a doctor. You spend $200K to get the education and then several hundred thousand more to get your practice open. Many of my friends spent in excess $75,000 to get through college and never made that much in a year and are now out of a job and losing everything. I paid $360 and am well on my way to financial freedom. SCHOOL and traditional thinking is a scam! Every business is shaped like a pyramid. The whole country is a pyramid. One guy on top, then his cabinet, the Senate, the House, all the way down to us poor saps who don't make anything and just keep making those at the top rich! Don't like pyramids? You better move to a socialist country. Or just wait till Obama turns this into one.

I have also added a new addition to my business( enterprise). I just joined a fantastic business in the Health and Wellness Space. We have an extensive line of body shapers, nutritional and skin care products. Check out the products at www.curvyu.com Awesome stuff! I'd love to share more information about this business. ** NOTE the products are all natural, no sugar. Why not get healthy and get paid for it!

It seems like you'll have to be very careful in selecting the best option from all of these people. Good luck!

Montana State Auditor's Office warns residents about WorldVentures.

"Pyramid schemes are illegal. Participants in a pyramid scheme that attempt to recruit new members are violating the law and may face administrative, civil or criminal actions against them. If you or someone you know has been approached to get involved in World Ventures or similar programs, please contact the Montana Securities Division."

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: That's funny. I am in WorldVentures for only 3 months and already made 3 times what I put into it and will never pay them another cent for any of my products or the business. Try getting both sides. If you aren't willing to pay the price (do the work), you will lose money in ANYTHING! It's a $360 investment for everything with WV. Try buying a McDonalds franchise. It will cost you $2Million before you even get a building and you get $150K a year profit back. So you have to go into your 14th year before you make your initial investment back. Go to college for 8 years to become a doctor. You spend $200K to get the education and then several hundred thousand more to get your practice open. Many of my friends spent in excess $75,000 to get through college and never made that much in a year and are now out of a job and losing everything. I paid $360 and am well on my way to financial freedom. SCHOOL and traditional thinking is a scam! Every business is shaped like a pyramid. The whole country is a pyramid. One guy on top, then his cabinet, the Senate, the House, all the way down to us poor saps who don't make anything and just keep making those at the top rich! Don't like pyramids? You better move to a socialist country. Or just wait till Obama turns this into one.

I am seeing a pattern here - a very clear pattern. When asked "Why isn't World Ventures considered a pyramid?" you'll get 3 pat answers from their reps.

1. "We are a multi-billion dollar company. If we were a pyramid, FTC would have shut us down." May I point you first to Acorn - bring in a whole lot more money than World Ventures does. Then may I point you to a competitor who, interestingly enough, even uses the same lingo to sell the product as WorldVentures - ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1737.

2. "All businesses are pyramids" The FTC defines pyramids as follows: "They [pyramid schemes] promise consumers or investors la

(con't)
2. "All businesses are pyramids" The FTC defines pyramids as follows: "They [pyramid schemes] promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public." That does not describe “Every Business” as claimed above.

3. Their last resort if they are unable to con you into believing this hype will be to personally attack you. I know, I’ve been there.

Lisa in Carrollton, Texas said: Montana State Auditor's Office warns residents about WorldVentures.

"Pyramid schemes are illegal. Participants in a pyramid scheme that attempt to recruit new members are violating the law and may face administrative, civil or criminal actions against them. If you or someone you know has been approached to get involved in World Ventures or similar programs, please contact the Montana Securities Division."

Well, Lisa, as you said, people are mean to you when you say bad things about the company. I guess that would be especially true when you go so far out of your way to smear a company that you provide quotes about other companies because you have NO IDEA what you are talking about! I want an apology from you. Here is what you referenced and I will use the response that was provided after that quote was posted by someone else because it's perfect. If ignorance is bliss, then you must be really blissful! Here is the response to your really pathetic attempt at smearing a legitimate company:

"Let's start with the quote above from "Cynical". This is a great example of how a small omission of fact, cynical mindset and rush to judgment can inaccurately portray the truth. Please find the same article from a different source below:

bulletin.aarp.org/states/mt/a...ort_abuse.html

Please note that the "Worldventures" that "Cynical" and NMH seek to malign is a privately held company with no issue of stock, yet the "World (space) Ventures" referenced in the article above is the OTC, publicly traded, gold trading, Canadian entity WVNTF. Shame on you!"

moneycentral.msn.com/detail/s...e?Symbol=wvntf

moneycentral.msn.com/companyreport?symbol=WVNTF

www.worldventuresinc.com/

Nice try, Lisa. Now, how about some honesty and an apology.

Lisa in Carrollton, Texas said: I am seeing a pattern here - a very clear pattern. When asked "Why isn't World Ventures considered a pyramid?" you'll get 3 pat answers from their reps.

1. "We are a multi-billion dollar company. If we were a pyramid, FTC would have shut us down." May I point you first to Acorn - bring in a whole lot more money than World Ventures does. Then may I point you to a competitor who, interestingly enough, even uses the same lingo to sell the product as WorldVentures - ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1737 .

2. "All businesses are pyramids" The FTC defines pyramids as follows: "They [pyramid schemes] promise consumers or investors la

As for #1, you don't listen or know what you are talking about. WorldVentures did $100Million last year and is on pace to do $300Million this year. It is not a multi-billion dollar company, nor has anyone presenting the business ever claimed such! You are either blatantly lying or just making stuff up. The FTC has looked at our entire industry. We have ABSOLUTELY no worries with them. One of our competitors is in trouble because they are not selling enough products compared to signing reps. WorldVentures is rock solid in product sales. Sorry to dissapoint you. Next...

Lisa in Carrollton, Texas said: (con't)
2. "All businesses are pyramids" The FTC defines pyramids as follows: "They [pyramid schemes] promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public." That does not describe “Every Business” as claimed above.

3. Their last resort if they are unable to con you into believing this hype will be to personally attack you. I know, I’ve been there.

For #2, you can't even get my quote right! The quote was, "Every business is shaped like a pyramid". I didn't say every business was a pyramid. I said SHAPED LIKE a pyramid. Again, a blatant attempt at misleading readers! Really pathetic! As for the rest of #2, WorldVentures has a PRODUCT, which is a world class travel club, called Dreamtrips. If that's not a product, then Thousand Trails would have to be a pyramid scam. We have another product called the LTC package which provides you with a world class travel website with which you can book travel and have others book travel through you and you earn commissions. Both are products. WorldVentures does not pay one cent for recruiting anyone into the business. You don't have to be in the business to buy and use the products! You have NOT been to a presentation of this business, so you are speaking out of complete ignorance and it makes you look foolish. At the end of EVERY presentation online and live, there is an income disclosure statement handed to everyone AND a large full screen slide that clearly states, "There are NO GUARANTEES regarding income" and that the success or failure of each individual rep depends on the effort they put forth. This is a business and like any other business, if you don't make an effort, you don't make money.

So, Lisa, why don't you take back your very poor attempt at smearing a very legitimate travel company and then tell us which one you're working for

The above comments are an example of why we don't tell people the name of the company before taking them to see the business presentation. There is so much misinformation and it is the first thing that comes up when you Google the company name. Those who are too blind to actually check things out for themselves will just go to scam.com and read what the uneducated, unwilling to work, and ignorant have to say. It's really sad that this garbage stays online and is the first result to pop up on Google. People like Lisa read this and don't bother checking both sides and then spread complete misinformation based on articles about a completely different company and then act like they are being persecuted because someone said something mean to them after hearing their ignorant comments. Well, sometimes you bring stuff on yourself. I have no patience with people like her. WorldVentures is the greatest company I have ever been associated with and I will be with them when I die and then my eventual 6 or 7 figure per month income will be willed on to my children. Yes, I will get there because I am ALL IN and this is the greatest vehicle to financial freedom I have ever seen! BAR NONE! Do yourself a favor and check it out.

All MLM's like World Ventures should be avoided at all costs!! Here's a link to a review of this "company" . . .

www.ripoffreport.com/Travel-Agents/Marc-Accetta-Kelly-A/marc-accetta-kelly-accetta-l-bxa93.htm

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: All MLM's like World Ventures should be avoided at all costs!! Here's a link to a review of this "company" . . .

www.ripoffreport.com/Travel-Agents/Marc-Accetta-Kelly-A/marc-accetta-kelly-accetta-l-bxa93.htm

Wow, out of hundreds of thousands of people Marc Accetta has trained, you can find only a handful of dissatisfied people who have decided to go public with their complaints! Pretty good record. So, let's say there are 10 people on the internet with complaints about this man. Then let's say that there are 50 other unhappy people for every one who actually posts something. Now, if you take half a million people or so that he has probably trained at his events, you now have an unsatisfactory rate of 0.01%. WOW! That's awful. He should be as good as Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid or Barack Obama. Between them, they average about 60% unsatisfactory or negative results in the polls. But, I am willing to bet old Bosco here voted for Obama and loved the day that Pelosi and Reid took over the majority. The problem is that they are running (or ruining) the country and Marc Accetta is taking a company to the top of network marketing. He may not be the perfect man, but who is? It doesn't affect how he does his job, right???

In the sermon at our church yesterday, we heard this: Romans 2:1 - "Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things."

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: All MLM's like World Ventures should be avoided at all costs!! Here's a link to a review of this "company" . . .

www.ripoffreport.com/Travel-Agents/Marc-Accetta-Kelly-A/marc-accetta-kelly-accetta-l-bxa93.htm

By the way, Bosco, did you know you can find ripoff reports about Tony Robbins, Donald Trump, Zig Ziglar and anyone else you want to find them on. Every one of the success trainers who have created thousands of independently wealthy people can be found in a negative light on the internet because some loser doesn't have the drive or ambition to help themselves so they go into personal attack mode. If these people spent half as much effort putting what they were taught into action as they do investigating every aspect of the trainers' lives, they would actually find out what they were taught works!

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: But, I am willing to bet old Bosco here voted for Obama and loved the day that Pelosi and Reid took over the majority.

Nope, I didn't vote for Obama. I voted for the good guys!

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: All MLM's like World Ventures should be avoided at all costs!! Here's a link to a review of this "company" . . .

www.ripoffreport.com/Travel-Agents/Marc-Accetta-Kelly-A/marc-accetta-kelly-accetta-l-bxa93.htm

Keep in mind that the above referenced website is run by someone that is a scam artist himself, and is wanted by Federal Authorities. Are you going to take information from that site as credible information?

I've been with World Ventures for almost a year and have had nothing but positive experiences with the founders and executives. We are one of the fastest growing travel companies in the world, we have great technology, great training, great benefits and we show people how to do what they want to do anyway - save on travel.

airk1 in Illinois said: I'm would like to get involved with one of these programs. I've just become a stay at home mom. I'm looking to supplement our income a bit. Needless to say travel benefits is not the main goal here, we won't be traveling for awhile (just had triplets)!! I'm looking for some feedback on these programs; negatives/positives/costs involved....Thanks

I am part of World Ventures. I joined Feb. 2009. I am almost at Director level. It has been the best decision I have ever made. E-mail me at chillinoutmost@aol.com and give me your email address. I will send you a video e-mail about World Ventures and how it works. No it is not a scam! I receive my checks weekly.
Kathy Hemphill

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: By the way, Bosco, did you know you can find ripoff reports about Tony Robbins, Donald Trump, Zig Ziglar and anyone else you want to find them on. Every one of the success trainers who have created thousands of independently wealthy people can be found in a negative light on the internet because some loser doesn't have the drive or ambition to help themselves so they go into personal attack mode. If these people spent half as much effort putting what they were taught into action as they do investigating every aspect of the trainers' lives, they would actually find out what they were taught works!

Way to go McKinny, TX. I am part of World Ventures and is just about Director level. You can't tell neg. people anything! They better stop shopping at Wal-Mart, hate to tell them what's out there about them! LOL

Here are some reviews of World Ventures:

www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/world-ventures-c247644.html

Pretty scary . . .

The Montana Securities Department has received inquiries and information indicating an investment program entitled World Ventures may be operating in Butte and surrounding communities. The program appears to be a fraudulent pyramid scheme.

World Ventures appears to be operating as a classic "pyramid" scheme, asking investors to put their own money in to get started. †It appears that $400.00 is the initial amount required for entry into the scheme. To recover their original funds the investors are required to recruit new participants into the program. Once a participant brings enough new recruits into the program, they climb up the pyramid to a point where they begin sharing in the pool of money obtained from new recruits.

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: The Montana Securities Department has received inquiries and information indicating an investment program entitled World Ventures may be operating in Butte and surrounding communities. The program appears to be a fraudulent pyramid scheme.

World Ventures appears to be operating as a classic "pyramid" scheme, asking investors to put their own money in to get started. †It appears that $400.00 is the initial amount required for entry into the scheme. To recover their original funds the investors are required to recruit new participants into the program. Once a participant brings enough new recruits into the program, they climb up the pyramid to a point where they begin sharing in the pool of money obtained from new recruits.

Bosco, are you blind? Or just dumb? I have already pointed out that the article you are citing here is about a different World Ventures; one that exchanges currrency. I guess it is too much to ask for bitter people to do research! Geez!

Bosco in Orlando, Florida said: Here are some reviews of World Ventures:

www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/world-ventures-c247644.html

Pretty scary . . .

Wow, Bosco, for once you are right! That is Pretty Scary! I had no idea that people could be that completely uneducated, ignorant and dishonest as to post complete fabrications and be allowed to keep them on an internet site that other mindless morons can go to just to read their lies and decide not to pursue their dreams because of what was posted by pathetic losers with no drive, no ambition and no character!

Want the truth and the other side. You know, the side that people like Bosco and Lisa will never acknowledge or even open their mind to hear about?! Here it is:

worldventures.biz/truthwv/#blank

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: Bosco, are you blind? Or just dumb? I have already pointed out that the article you are citing here is about a different World Ventures; one that exchanges currrency. I guess it is too much to ask for bitter people to do research! Geez!

Hmm? It's interesting that the required fee to get started in your MLM is also $400 . . .

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: Want the truth and the other side. You know, the side that people like Bosco and Lisa will never acknowledge or even open their mind to hear about?! Here it is:

worldventures.biz/truthwv/#blank

Yeah, go get the truth from the very people perpetuating the scam itself?? That's sound advice!!

WorldVentures Guy in Mckinney, Texas said: Wow, Bosco, for once you are right! That is Pretty Scary! I had no idea that people could be that completely uneducated, ignorant and dishonest as to post complete fabrications and be allowed to keep them on an internet site that other mindless morons can go to just to read their lies and decide not to pursue their dreams because of what was posted by pathetic losers with no drive, no ambition and no character!

And what proof do you have that these are fabrications? How do we know everything you've said is not a fabrication?