Does Anyone Know The Cost Of Sanford Brown Diagnostic Ultrasound Tech Program?!

There are 7 students in my class that are planning on suing Sanford Brown. They were lied to repeatedly about having to take medical assisting before ultrasound - not required - and then, when they finished med assisting, they told them they couldn't get into their ultrasound program. please post information on how to get on board with the class action suit.

There are 7 students in my class that are planning on suing Sanford Brown. They were lied to repeatedly about having to take medical assisting before ultrasound - not required - and then, when they finished med assisting, they told them they couldn't get into their ultrasound program. please post information on how to get on board with the class action suit.

Just FYI -- no matter where you goto school, it is almost entirely on you as to if you get hired or not. I went to SBI in Lauderdale -- no doubt they hi-pressure you into enrollment and don't tell you any details on sitting for your boards. The burden is on YOU -- not the school -- to find out the correct pre-requisite information and what you get out of the program. I finished top in my class, scanned in the lab as much as possible and was agressive with scanning on clinicals. Got a job before I graduated, sat for RDCS since I had a bachelor's and am now traveling on my 4th year. Bottom line -- work hard and get your facts before you start so you won't get caught with your pants down on issues with your ARDMS.

This school is a rip OFF . along with Sallie mae. this was the worse educational experience in my life. A waste of money $40,000 that I cant pay back because i never found a job as a tech. Very disaaponited.

JUst FYI, not everyone is a fortunate as you to have a bachelors degree before going to sandford brown. MYSELF and many others in my class were made to believe that we would be hired without an RDMS. THIS is a FAlse statement that is costing us $40,000. So bottom line I think we all worked very hard and it got it us anywhere

PLEASE do NOT go to SBI!!! They will tell you that you don't have enough credits and have to take the Medical Assistant (MA) program before you can take Diagnostic Medical Sonography (DMS), which is NOT true! Look into a community college...all you have to do is take the prerequisites and take the course. Anyways, after graduating from the MA program (a course I didn't even want to take) with 15 A's and 2 B's they then told me that I still needed 16 more credits and would need to take their Cardiovascular Tech program before I could take DMS. I now work in a totally different field and unable to pay off the loans that accumulated. Also found out that none of the credits will transfer over to other schools. If ANYONE knows of a Class Action suit, please include me! I would love for them to just pay back all the money I owe after they've swindled me and a few others I know.

no comment in Parsippany, New Jersey said: There are 7 students in my class that are planning on suing Sanford Brown. They were lied to repeatedly about having to take medical assisting before ultrasound - not required - and then, when they finished med assisting, they told them they couldn't get into their ultrasound program. please post information on how to get on board with the class action suit.

I would like to jump on board for a class action suit, as well. A bunch of girls and I were told the same thing! After graduating MA they then tried to get me to take their Cardiovascular Tech course, saying I still didn't have enough credits! Now I'm stuck with loans I can't pay off and a Diploma for a course I didn't even need or want! My exiting counselor even asked why I took MA if I already had a certificate for Patient Care Tech. I told him that I was told I needed to take MA to earn the credits to take DMS. Now I have Sallie Mae harassing me everyday and my credit keeps getting worse. Also can't even go back to school until I can afford to start paying on my loans. I'm sickened that I even fell into their sticky web of deceit!

Jamila in Cleveland, Ohio said: I am thinking about doing the DMS program at the SBC in Cleveland, OH. Since you go there I hoping you would know of some success or horror stories from that campus. Does any the graduates get jobs and get paid well? Or does anyone say that they wish they never went to SBC because they can not find a job?

Just another horror story here :-( At first I thought it was a good school too and thought of having my daughters attend, but found out months and thousands of dollars later that they're a rip-off! Unless things have changed since I've been there, then I would STRONGLY advise you to look into other schools! Sanford-Brown will tell you you need to take Medical Assisting to earn credits before you can take the course you want to take. Once I was done with MA they then tried to tell me I still didn't have enough credits for the DMS course and wanted me to take their CVS course first. Now I'm left with time I can never get back, thousands of dollars in debit with Sallie Mae harrassing me numerous times a day and credits that won't transfer over to other schools. Let's not forget a worthless Diploma in MA...a job that only usually starts off around $11/hour IF you're lucky enough to get a job in that field. If you are offered a job on your externship TAKE IT or you're very unlikely to find a job as a MA due to the fact that most employers ask for 1-2 years experience.

I just recently graduated from Sanford brown cleveland and had a wonderful experience. My class and I are able to sit fro registry. Some of my classmates have passed physics and a specialty. I have passed physics and plan to sit for my specialty in nov. Members of my class along with previous graduating classes have gotten great jobs. Most of the techs at my clinical sites were from Sanford Brown and I did externships at cleveland clinic and UH. Even the head techs were from Sanford Brown. I was not mislead by sanford brown and was never told i needed the MA program. Its not right if some of the recruiters at the school are saying this but at the end of the day the burdenois on the student to know what they are signing up for. I did research for months on the school and the program before signing on. I didnt take anybodys word for ANYTHING. And just a side note, you cannot blame the school (or the program) because you dont/cant find a job. Going to college doesnt garauntee you a job, in any situation. If you are interested set up an appt to talk to someone then do YOUR OWN research. I am very satisifed with my experience.

Krishna in Sewaren, New Jersey said: Sanford Brown in Iselin is the ONLY Sanford Brown that's certified by the CAAHEP for their Sonography program. While the ones in NY, TX, FL, and anywhere else might be crap, the Iselin one should be good since it's certified. Meaning you should not have to work for a year before taking the ARDMS exam.

UPDATE: Sanford Brown campus in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida... IS ACCREDITED and you are now able to sit for your ARDMS licensure test upon graduation. Please look on the accreditation website to find which schools have an adequate program. SBI in Ft. Lauderdale has stepped up their game and been approved. Do your own research

Gina in Apollo Beach, Florida said: Just another horror story here :-( At first I thought it was a good school too and thought of having my daughters attend, but found out months and thousands of dollars later that they're a rip-off! Unless things have changed since I've been there, then I would STRONGLY advise you to look into other schools! Sanford-Brown will tell you you need to take Medical Assisting to earn credits before you can take the course you want to take. Once I was done with MA they then tried to tell me I still didn't have enough credits for the DMS course and wanted me to take their CVS course first. Now I'm left with time I can never get back, thousands of dollars in debit with Sallie Mae harrassing me numerous times a day and credits that won't transfer over to other schools. Let's not forget a worthless Diploma in MA...a job that only usually starts off around $11/hour IF you're lucky enough to get a job in that field. If you are offered a job on your externship TAKE IT or you're very unlikely to find a job as a MA due to the fact that most employers ask for 1-2 years experience.

It is true that you must have a certain amount of credits to enter SBIs Sonography program. They offer the MA course as a way to obtain them or you can get them at your local community college, as I did. With that done I was able to start directly into SBIs Ultrasound program. This is not unfair for Sanford Brown to ask. Most community colleges require you to have a two year health care degree before entering their Sonography program anyway. This is standard and for good reason. The healthcare field is competitive.

Sanford Brown does not require you to take the MA course if you already have credits from another school. You can get them at community college for cheap. The choice is up to you

Batman in Woodbridge, New Jersey said: Thanks for any info you can provide. I'm thinking of applying to the school in Iselin, NJ. I believe you need 45 college credits and then it is 18 months at Sanford.

Hey batman, u want to make sure the school is NCAA acredited before u think about switching schools. North Central Acredition.

kfenby01 in Pontiac, Michigan said: Hey batman, u want to make sure the school is NCAA acredited before u think about switching schools. North Central Acredition.

the program itself needs to be accredited by CAAHEP. you need credits to get into program and retake classes taken at real colleges. Nothing from an unaccredited program transfers. i went to tampa campus. some campuses have CAAHEP approved DMS programs. Check ARDMS website for listing of accredited programs!

Scott in Houston, Texas said: I'm about half way through the classroom based portion of the program and so far I love it. I wish I could say it's been a breeze, but I've never worked as hard in my life.

The physics portion of the program is tough, and seemed to be the area were most people in our class struggled. But it seems everyone made it through.

The scanning lab time has been awesome. No shortage of practice, and assistance. All the instructors I've had at Houston's location are really good, and open for tutorials.

I'd highly recommend this campus, but I'd warn anyone that wants to just get into something and get by probably look some where else. There are mods that the amount of work, and testing is brutal. You will have three different finals on one given week, sometimes three days in a row. So if your not self motivated, and like a casual format at a community college, this will not work for you.

It was very hard for me to adjust, but I'm getting by. I'm glad I moved here for the program, and I'd do it again for sure.

Hi I am looking into the DMS program as well in SBI houston. Can I have your e-mail to get some more info.
thanks

Skilled Ultrasonographer in Albany, New York said: Do not go to SBI! It is unaccredited and is not a very good program. You WILL have a hard time finding a job after attending this program. You WILL owe 30+ thousand dollars. Try going to an accredited program at a local Community College. It costs about $5,000 and you'll be better off than attending SBI. I took my boards within the 1st year of attending a local community college and am already ARDMS certified. You can't say that of ppl who attend SBI (you have to work a whole year before you can even be eligable to sit for your exam)!

.I do not agree with you,as there are many many examples of SBI grads who have been registered not in one but many modalities,I am FORMER GRAD OF SBI PA,GOT REGISTERED IN ABDOMEN AND OB/GYN AFTER GRADUATING AS I HAD A BS DEGREE,i AM REGISTERED IN BREAST AND ALSO NOW IN VASCULAR-RDMS,RVT!THERE ARE MANY MORE EXAMPLES of grads like me,those who attend SBI without a degree need to have the experience in order to get a job, getting registered is not the only requirement, you need to have the skills to scan as well, and SBI GRADS have that, community colleges do not give you the hands on practice as much as the SBI schools.

Batman in Woodbridge, New Jersey said: Thanks for any info you can provide. I'm thinking of applying to the school in Iselin, NJ. I believe you need 45 college credits and then it is 18 months at Sanford.

If this is the school that was previously Katharine Gibbs, then it is a scam. Read reviews for Gibbs and you will see what happened. And if you are in this school quit NOW.

I cant even begin to tell you what happened to me. But read Gibbs revieews and all of those happened.

777 in Brooklyn, New York said: .I do not agree with you,as there are many many examples of SBI grads who have been registered not in one but many modalities,I am FORMER GRAD OF SBI PA,GOT REGISTERED IN ABDOMEN AND OB/GYN AFTER GRADUATING AS I HAD A BS DEGREE,i AM REGISTERED IN BREAST AND ALSO NOW IN VASCULAR-RDMS,RVT!THERE ARE MANY MORE EXAMPLES of grads like me,those who attend SBI without a degree need to have the experience in order to get a job, getting registered is not the only requirement, you need to have the skills to scan as well, and SBI GRADS have that, community colleges do not give you the hands on practice as much as the SBI schools.

What school did you attend? I am thinking about going to the SBI in Garden City. I have about 50 college credits and I think that is all I need at this point. I am very serious about it and would love to be done in 2 years at the most. Please I would appreciate any help. You can email me at emaregemini@hotmail.com
Thank you so much!

Satisfied Student in Beachwood, Ohio said: I just recently graduated from Sanford brown cleveland and had a wonderful experience. My class and I are able to sit fro registry. Some of my classmates have passed physics and a specialty. I have passed physics and plan to sit for my specialty in nov. Members of my class along with previous graduating classes have gotten great jobs. Most of the techs at my clinical sites were from Sanford Brown and I did externships at cleveland clinic and UH. Even the head techs were from Sanford Brown. I was not mislead by sanford brown and was never told i needed the MA program. Its not right if some of the recruiters at the school are saying this but at the end of the day the burdenois on the student to know what they are signing up for. I did research for months on the school and the program before signing on. I didnt take anybodys word for ANYTHING. And just a side note, you cannot blame the school (or the program) because you dont/cant find a job. Going to college doesnt garauntee you a job, in any situation. If you are interested set up an appt to talk to someone then do YOUR OWN research. I am very satisifed with my experience.

My friend is one of the head techs at the Clev Clinic and you are wrong about them not saying people need to take the ma course. They made him take it and both courses ran him like 34k. He got his job (of course) before the recession/depression and had i think 3 family members that worked for the clinic help get him in. I recently asked him about someone now trying to get into the clinic and he said its extremely hard at this time. Not all your classmates are getting these great jobs you speak of because they are not there. I have known this guy for 30 years and he said he would help me try to get in but that the Clinic is penny pinching to the max. So he said nothing is guarenteed. Before the recession this was an easy job to get because alot of people quit.

He even failed the physics part of the State test two times and the Clinic sent him to Pittsburgh on there dime to some guy who teaches you how to pass the test. Now they dont want to spend anything extra because of the economy. Jobs everywhere including at the Clinic are hard to get. He started at 16.50-16.70 and now makes $28-$29. That is nurse money for way less stress and work. No ass wiping and no weekends m-f 8-5. If he wants to work Sat he can. I wish i could have an opportunity like this because this is an excellant position. He said right now the market is saturated and too expensive to take a chance on.

Hello,

If you read my post correctly I said the I was not told that I had to take the MA course, and that is SB is telling people that then they are wrong. I,MYSELF, was never mislead about the program at all. I dont argue that its difficult to get in Cleveland Clinic, anyone in any medical field knows that. No argument there, Im not even sure why that was a topic in your response to me because I never said that it was easy. 7 out of 11 people in my class have jobs, including myself. Im registered. Didnt have any problems with that. I have no reason to lie about it, im not going to get paid to come on a forum and tell lies. Sanford Brown has to meet certain employment numbers to keep there accredidation because they are not a community college. So in other words, all the infromation (employment of students, passing rates, etc.) is (and HAS to be) public information. But anyways, good luck in whatever route you choose.

satisfied student in Beachwood, Ohio said: Hello,

If you read my post correctly I said the I was not told that I had to take the MA course, and that is SB is telling people that then they are wrong. I,MYSELF, was never mislead about the program at all. I dont argue that its difficult to get in Cleveland Clinic, anyone in any medical field knows that. No argument there, Im not even sure why that was a topic in your response to me because I never said that it was easy. 7 out of 11 people in my class have jobs, including myself. Im registered. Didnt have any problems with that. I have no reason to lie about it, im not going to get paid to come on a forum and tell lies. Sanford Brown has to meet certain employment numbers to keep there accredidation because they are not a community college. So in other words, all the infromation (employment of students, passing rates, etc.) is (and HAS to be) public information. But anyways, good luck in whatever route you choose.

So you didnt have to take the MA class at all. What course did you take? How much was it? He went to the one in Middleburgh.

No, I didnt have to take the MA course. I only took the DMS program. To get into the program you need at least 6 college credit hours of Math, and 6 of Science. ( this is actually required by ARDMS to be able to sit for the registry I believe, not for sure though so dont quote me) This goes for Community College programs as well thats why they take "pre-reqs". So if you have that from a previous time you were in college then you are fine. If not, they will "suggest" (or at least they should be suggesting and not falsely telling people they HAVE too) you take the MA course to get the credits. But you dont have too, you can go to a community college to get the pre-reqs (for much cheaper) and then apply when your done. Its really up to the person. But there is not a school policy that says you HAVE to take the MA first, only that you have to have the credits. If a recruiter tells you that I would adamantly ask her/him where is the policy that says that is a requirement. If you have to call the program director directly to ask him/her then do that too. I went to the one in Middleburg also, and only one girl in my class took the MA course first. the program is expensive, its $38,000 I believe (its higher now then when I went)

Satisfied Student in Beachwood, Ohio said: No, I didnt have to take the MA course. I only took the DMS program. To get into the program you need at least 6 college credit hours of Math, and 6 of Science. ( this is actually required by ARDMS to be able to sit for the registry I believe, not for sure though so dont quote me) This goes for Community College programs as well thats why they take "pre-reqs". So if you have that from a previous time you were in college then you are fine. If not, they will "suggest" (or at least they should be suggesting and not falsely telling people they HAVE too) you take the MA course to get the credits. But you dont have too, you can go to a community college to get the pre-reqs (for much cheaper) and then apply when your done. Its really up to the person. But there is not a school policy that says you HAVE to take the MA first, only that you have to have the credits. If a recruiter tells you that I would adamantly ask her/him where is the policy that says that is a requirement. If you have to call the program director directly to ask him/her then do that too. I went to the one in Middleburg also, and only one girl in my class took the MA course first. the program is expensive, its $38,000 I believe (its higher now then when I went)

38k most cant afford that without rich parents. My friend told me to go to Tri-c (like you said) and you can do this for much cheaper ( he said under 10k) but im not sure. Why go and spend 38k over 10k? Is the only advantage the time it takes to complete and you can get in right away? Just trying to figure this all out. His dad paid for his as he went so it was no problem for him, but i will not be so lucky i would have to pay or get a loan.

Anna in Middle Village, New York said: Dear Skilled UltraSonographer. You are already ARDMS certified, so I have some questions for you. I am currently taking a physics class in order to transfer to a another college offering a sonography program. My question is...how much physics will I need to know to pass that exam? Is there certain formulas I will need to remember? I find Physics so much harder than the A&P, courses I had already taken. When I get into the other school...I have to take a YEAR of SONOGRAPHY PHYSICS!!! What is that? Is that really hard? I am getting really nervous about that. It appears you are one of the very few people on this site that is actually working in the field and has been certified. I would really appreciate you answers. Thanks so much.

I think you have been given wrong info,ultrasound physics is one of the most interesting subjects in sonogrphy program, if you need help, i can guide you thru the process of getting ready to take the SPI exam,I have taught for 14+ years and love to teach any of the courses,so if interested let me know.

Does anyone know what the requirements to enter the SMS program at SBI in ny,ny?and is it a good school,even though it is accredited by caahep,if you went there,how was the program and what was your experience?

Raol in Bronx, New York said: Does anyone know what the requirements to enter the SMS program at SBI in ny,ny?and is it a good school,even though it is accredited by caahep,if you went there,how was the program and what was your experience?

My guy went to SBI in Cleveland and it was 34k. I heard its 38k or more now. He got a job from it but that was before the recession. I wouldnt go that route now because you wont be able to sit for the ARDMS.

Marty Madd in 8 mile, Michigan said: My guy went to SBI in Cleveland and it was 34k. I heard its 38k or more now. He got a job from it but that was before the recession. I wouldnt go that route now because you wont be able to sit for the ARDMS.[/QUOabuser banks. Thanks!!! *__^ after reading I'll say hell 2 the no,I'm just just gonna apply for x-ray tech and then go to a suny school to learn sonography in 2 years and get a bs ^__^UU

i want to be an diagnostic medical sonographer ...what community colleges can i attend in the nyc

ps is laguardia community college good to go to? do they offer that major?
thankssssssssssss

I think that unless you have a Bachelors degree already from some other school it would be best to find a community college that offers this as an associates degree. some colleges also offer it as a certificate if you already have a degree in another medical field which means the cost of being certified will be much cheaper. i have never attended sanford and brown, but i would advise against it now a days. since now more and more hospitals, doctors offices, home care programs, and clinics are looking for degree holders. i'm not saying anything against those who already have their certification and have experience, i'm sure they are safe. but you need to check the standards for your state as well, because it is different in EVERY state. 2 years ago in Maryland you could be hired without being certified, now you MUST be certified, which makes sense, but closes doors for those who could have learned through on the job training. if you haven't been educated at a school that is accredited by CAHEEP, then you can not sit for your boards. just a suggestion go to community college, thats what i'm doing and i'm getting plenty of hands on experience with actually scanning patients/classmates.

GOOGLA, go here and enter the information for your state and such and you will come up with schools that you can go to to be certified or get a degree.

www.caahep.org/Find-An-Accredited-Program/

stephanie, the cvs program is not caahep accredited but will give you an associate degree,the dms is a certificate program.

Kim in Belmar, New Jersey said: SBI in Iselin, NJ is accredited. I am finishing their program now. The school is ok.. You get what you put into it, if you know what I mean. If you are serious and study, it is the same material other schools teach. It is VERY expensive 35k... but I didn't want to wait 2-3 years on a waiting list. Hoped I would make the money working in the field those years I would have been waiting and make it worth going now. Don't go to a school that is not accredited... that is when you will have trouble finding a job. Not all SBI schools are accredited, but Iselin is. Good luck!

Hi Kim! I read your comment just now from a couple years ago and was wondering if you are employed after attending SBI in Iselin. I am thinking of going and I know it's accredited but I have heard so many bad things. I am a really good student and want to do very good in school so I wouldn't think it would be an issue for me. Can you give me some feedback? Thanks!

googla in Brooklyn, New York said: i want to be an diagnostic medical sonographer ...what community colleges can i attend in the nyc

ps is laguardia community college good to go to? do they offer that major?
thankssssssssssss

None of the community colleges offer it, unless you live in Suffolk or Troy NY, Ive checked =[