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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

I'm confused. I can take exam right after school if I have a
Bachelor's or I have to work also for a year. I'm able to go out
of state for paid job.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Orinda in Los Angeles, California said: I'm confused. I can take exam right after school if I have a
Bachelor's or I have to work also for a year. I'm able to go out
of state for paid job.

If you have a bachelor you CAN sit for the exam it can be a bachelor in anything. The schooling as long as it is at least 1 year in length counts as you 1 year of experience towards the exams. Otherwise if you have no bachelor you can't sit for the exams until you work for 1 year in the field. Certain states now will not let you work without your ARDMS credentials New Mexico and Oregon i believe. The rest you should still be able to find work without your ARDMS credentials, however the current economy is making it hard for even ARDMS registered techs to find work WITH experience.

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: If you have a bachelor you CAN sit for the exam it can be a bachelor in anything. The schooling as long as it is at least 1 year in length counts as you 1 year of experience towards the exams. Otherwise if you have no bachelor you can't sit for the exams until you work for 1 year in the field. Certain states now will not let you work without your ARDMS credentials New Mexico and Oregon i believe. The rest you should still be able to find work without your ARDMS credentials, however the current economy is making it hard for even ARDMS registered techs to find work WITH experience.

Thanks for your answer.I looked at another school which had

eight months clinical,but they said I would still have to work

12mo. before any exams except physics.I don't understand why
it's different.I couldn't really get a clear answer from ARDMS
either. They said find someone in your position from the school
and find out,because each school is different,so that is what
I was trying to do.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Now i'm unclear on what you are saying, the other school told you that even if you have your bachelor you still have to work 1 year before the exams? Well I spoke to james.forkkio@ardms.org he's the Certification Processing Specialist and if you go to the ARDMS website you can download the pre-reqs it's a PDF, if you do not have a bachelor you don't go to a CAAHEP school then you have to go under Pre-Req 1 which states :
Note: If you are using your DMS program for the educational requirement,
you still have to document an additional 12 months of clinical ultrasound/
vascular experience earned outside the two-year program.

But if you HAVE a bachelor you qualify under Pre-Req 3A which doesn't have that "Note" and James Forkkio stated that your 1 year of school counts as the 1 year of experience. Our school for Echo is 18 months 3 of which is in externship and except for the first 3 months of school in intro class the rest of the time is split between classroom work and actually learning in the lab on the machines with mostly healthy people however you have the option of coming in after school and on weekends and bringing friends and family that have pathology to practice scanning on. This friday for instance i'm bringing my 69 year old father whos on dialysis and is overweight and has alot of pathology to look at, i'm sharing him with my friends in general DMS since i am not learning abdomen right now but they are and he has interesting kidneys among other things...see so the opportunity is there as well. Hope I helped

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Thanks!! When you go to 3A,there is a little (2) and a little (3)
One says that your educational experience cannot be used for clinical experience. The other school said that they had changed
3A and it doesn't matter anymore if you have a Bachelor's unless
in sonography. I'm so baffled with different answers.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

I just sent james another email to re-verify however i just copy and pasted the little 2 and 3 here...
2 Full-time is defined as 35 hours per week, at least 48 weeks per year. If working part time, the requirements are prorated. Twenty hours per week
would take approximately two years.
3 Clinical ultrasound/vascular experience may be obtained one of two ways: (1) being employed as an ultrasound/vascular sonographer in a
clinical setting for a minimum of 12 months, or (2) successfully completing a formal, full-time ultrasound program that is a minimum of 12 months
in length and includes appropriate clinical and didactic hours.

Further down it says in the same "3" section Clinical experience earned to document the education
requirement cannot also be used to support the clinical requirement.

Do you see under 3 how it states in the (2) that successfully completing formal full time ultrasound program thats 1 year minimum counts? That's the key with a bachelor degree. further down Where it says using clinical experience earned to document educational requirement can't be used to support the clinical requirement does NOT apply because your bachelor degree in "any major" as it says falls under the educational requirement See?!?! So by getting a bachelor already you have fulfilled the educational requirement and by going to ultrasound school you are fulfilling the clinical requirement technically. It's totally confusing i know but after being in your shoes a year ago i totally feel you i ran around in circle for awhile till i found james. But i still emailed him to check to see if anything is changing.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Orinda,
Technically if you were so lucky as to find a job as a sonographer/echo-tech and had a bachelor and NEVER went to ultrasound school and you worked 1 year technically you could just take the boards. But that would be almost impossible to do these days but see where the documentation required is?

The first is to document your bachelor
The second is to document either your hours or your program completuion, the page 15 it refers to shows sample letters that both schools and ultrasound supervisors at a hospital or doc office would write for you to satisfy ARDMS
and the third is the form showing your completed hours. (CV) form.

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Thanks so much for your time.Maybe I'll run into you at WUCi.
I'm starting week-ends in Oct.

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Here's the problem after talking to Cindy at WUCI. They won't
fill out a CV Form. She says I don't need it. I'm still confused
but whatever.Does the person at the externship sign it?

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Sorry i mistyped, you should speak with phylis though that's what i meant.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Orinda in Los Angeles, California said: Here's the problem after talking to Cindy at WUCI. They won't
fill out a CV Form. She says I don't need it. I'm still confused
but whatever.Does the person at the externship sign it?

Orinda he got back to me.

Hi Lea,
You are interpreting prereq 3A correctly; disregard the info that you are being given by others.
Best,
James Forkkio

forkkio@ardms.org
Certification Processing Specialist
ARDMS

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: Orinda he got back to me.

Hi Lea,
You are interpreting prereq 3A correctly; disregard the info that you are being given by others.
Best,
James Forkkio

forkkio@ardms.org
Certification Processing Specialist
ARDMS

Thank you so much!!!!

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Paul in Austin, Texas

74 months ago

Orinda,

A word to the wise. You already know that prereq 3A requires 12 months of full time clinical experience in sonography. You also know that "full time" is defined as 35 hours per week for at least 48 weeks out of the year.

35 X 48 = 1680

So, I would suggest you verify, i.e. get it in writing, that the program you are interested in will provide you with no less than 1680 hours of clinical experience in sonography so that you will be eligible under the 3A prereq.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Orinda,
Paul is correct i don't know what the other schools hours were but for the Echo program the total amount of hours is 1840 over 18 months, the general DMS program is 2160 hours over 21 months both are acceptable. there is a school catalog from the school that shows the hours in writing. You may have it already.

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latoure in San Jose, California

74 months ago

Paul in Austin, Texas said: Orinda,

A word to the wise. You already know that prereq 3A requires 12 months of full time clinical experience in sonography. You also know that "full time" is defined as 35 hours per week for at least 48 weeks out of the year.

35 X 48 = 1680

So, I would suggest you verify, i.e. get it in writing, that the program you are interested in will provide you with no less than 1680 hours of clinical experience in sonography so that you will be eligible under the 3A prereq.

3A requires you complete an ultrasound program with 12 months of externiship as part of that program. No other experience is necessary to sit for the ARDMS under 3A (with a bachellors degree).

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

latoure in San Jose, California said: 3A requires you complete an ultrasound program with 12 months of externiship as part of that program. No other experience is necessary to sit for the ARDMS under 3A (with a bachellors degree).

I pasted the requirement, a 12 month externship is not required only a program that is 1 year (or more if you want) in length with a mixture of didactice and extern hours.... the extern does NOT have to be 1 year long, that would be hard to find that's more like a residency. I already verified this with ARDMS and even pasted his email addy.

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Paul: I had someone verify,that if you have a Bachelor's and a
18 mo. program with clinical at a certain school,that I would
qualify.The outside externship does not have to be a year.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

I'm in Echo an would be able to sit for both RVT and RDCS and plant on taking them and in general you can sit for RVT and RDMS

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Thanks Again.How's Vascular doing?

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Your welcome and it's hard it's very technique based you can be book smart and that doesn't mean you can get your hands to cooperate. You should start practicing hand exercises to work the muscles to keep them steady also it's my first week and my wrist aches already, the weight of the cord drags your hand down and you have to "fight" it to keep it upright and everything is so minute with the transducer with pressure and angle that you can lose your view in an instant (which is very frustrating i might add you definately have to make a hobby out of staying after school and practicing to master it) so the drag doesn't help, people i notice put the cord over there neck as in drape it to take the weight off, it helps but on a facebook ultrasound forum we were just discussing this and there is an ergonomic tool designed specifically for that purpose i posted it below. But hand exercises will help, someone recommended using a can of soup or something and practice pretending it's a transducer to work out your hand because that's almost the weight it feels like to the untrained hand. Plus your are outstretched a bit in vascular so your shoulder will ache you have to actively ask people to come closer to you rather than reach. So i'll let you know how it works out with this tool. Also class is challenging i'm not in physics yet but you have to learn some physics to understand the vascular system and how it works with the ultrasound machine. So challenging is the key work but already i signed up for tutoring just for the extra help since it's free. My whole lab group tutors at once so it's more like a review study session. it helps!

www.soundergonomics.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16134&cat=248&page=1

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: Orinda,
Paul is correct i don't know what the other schools hours were but for the Echo program the total amount of hours is 1840 over 18 months, the general DMS program is 2160 hours over 21 months both are acceptable. there is a school catalog from the school that shows the hours in writing. You may have it already.

Lea,It's me again.One last quesition. I know you have a B.S. and
you probably qualified fot stafford loans. Each school is different.
If not too private,what are you paying out of pocket.You can
email me if you like.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

Orinda in Los Angeles, California said: Lea,It's me again.One last quesition. I know you have a B.S. and
you probably qualified fot stafford loans. Each school is different.
If not too private,what are you paying out of pocket.You can
email me if you like.

Unfortunately i wouldn't qualify for loans, i didn't even try, i was one of the many that was forced to short sale my home and my credit is crap right now, i also didn't qualify for FAFSA aid because i made too much in 2007 & 2008 even though i made NIL this year...i find it unfair how it's determined. If things were so great or as great as they were in the past I wouldn't need to be going back to school right? Catch-22 there. So i pay 100% cash out of pocket and am lucky enough to have a nice family right now to assist when needed. However i am still 36k in debt from my B.S. that i have to pay off. It's just a worthless degree at this point except for the fact that it will save my butt come ARDMS exam time.

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

Sorry to hear about your problems.My business that I've had for
twenty years is cut in half and I may have file BK7. The federal
loans has nothing to do with your credit if you didn't know that.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

No i didn't but all the same i have enough loans as it is, thanks for that info though LOL! That's awful about your business, BK isn't the end of the world. My mom had to go through that after a divorce and still managed to buy a home 2 years later with her credit.

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jessica777 in dimaond bar, California

74 months ago

i am so over this economy and have been feeling like iv been treading water for years......I fould out about WCUI and was thinking about enrolling this Oct........IS THIS A GOOD IDEA???? im so confused some people say yes while some say no....WHat do i do!?!?!?!

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

74 months ago

jessica777 in dimaond bar, California said: i am so over this economy and have been feeling like iv been treading water for years......I fould out about WCUI and was thinking about enrolling this Oct........IS THIS A GOOD IDEA???? im so confused some people say yes while some say no....WHat do i do!?!?!?!

Honestly it is a situation based decision. Do you have a bachelor? That's what made me decide that WCUI was right for me in particular. There was no wait list, i didn't have to retake 2 years of courses in general ed before i could even sign up for ultrasound at a CAAHEP school like OCC (which has a 2 year wait list i hear) and then not sure if that one was lottery based or grade based but either way that's a long time for me, the only thing i'd get out of it besides the disputed superior education is that if I DIDN'T already have a bachelor i could sit for my registries for ARDMS right away to be officially a registered tech in one or more modalities. But since I had a bachelor that meant i could sit for it as long as i fulfilled the 1 year of clinical experience for pre-req 3A since my past education fulfilled the education portion of the requirement, so my 1 year of experience i am getting in a 18 month program at WCUI which is actually longer than needed for ARDMS but sufficent training in my eyes, they have more than enough hours ARDMS requires 1680 i believe one program is over 1800 and DMS is over 2100 hours. I go during the day or morning, Dr. Emad is the best teacher especially if you've never been exposed to anatomy and physiology before, in all my years of education he is the best teacher i've ever met. That's for intro. Now i'm in vascular it's much more diffucult and a different teacher with different ways of explaining things so it's a bit more challenging BUT i still go back to Dr. Emad for tutoring to explain it to me HIS way and that's available for free and so is tutoring in the LAB. So far i like the school in ontario.

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lissssssssssssa in la puente, California

74 months ago

i want to go to WCUI for ultrasound, but im not sure if this school is a scam? can somebody help that has graduated and was it hard to get a job?

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Veronica in Los Angeles in Los Angeles, California

74 months ago

In reply to lisssssssssssssss's question above. I am a graduate from the DMS program here at WCUI, and I have to say withouth bias obviously that that this school really helped me with every question/concerns that I had from the day that I requested information about the program, until the day that I graduated. The admissions department and the job placement/career center in particular are extremely helpful, and know every student that I had familiarized myself with personally. They placed me into my externship site 5 days after I had graduated. Paul in the job placement center was extremely helpful in finding me an employer, about two weeks after my externship ended I was hired at an imaging center making 27 dollars an hour. I am not sure why you would think this school is a scam. They even let you sit in the classrooms and speak to the students themselves. What better way to find out about the school than to come and talk to actual students on campus, that way you are guaranteed that it is not a scam, and better yet, visit the admissions office and they will swipe you off your feet. Good luck with everything

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lissssssssssssa in la puente, California

74 months ago

Thank you im going to set an appointment or might go to their open house.

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lissssssssssssa in la puente, California

74 months ago

I forgot to ask you did you go to the Ontario campus? thats the one that im think of going to.

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LP22 in Santa Fe Springs, California

73 months ago

Can you sit in the ARDMS exam if the school is only accredited with the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges of Technology (ACCSCT)?

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

LP22 in Santa Fe Springs, California said: Can you sit in the ARDMS exam if the school is only accredited with the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges of Technology (ACCSCT)?

Only if you have a Bachelor degree or higher, it can be in any subject, otherwise you'd have to acquire 1 year of full time work notated in hours. So it could take longer than a year if you could only find a PT job for instance.

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LP22 in Santa Fe Springs, California

73 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: Only if you have a Bachelor degree or higher, it can be in any subject, otherwise you'd have to acquire 1 year of full time work notated in hours. So it could take longer than a year if you could only find a PT job for instance.

I see so I can still attend West COast Ultrasound Institute but would have to work in the field for 1 year before being able to take the exam right? could I find a job with graduating from an accredited school by Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges of Technology?

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

yes you can because people always want to employ people for as little as possible and because only two states have laws requiring techs to be registered Oregon and New Mexico you will find alot of jobs do not require ARDMS registration (but you will see alot of ARDMS registered preferred on the job listings). However in this economy even registered techs are finding it difficult to get a job and therefore they will take lower paying jobs if they must to survive making more difficult in the meantime for non-registered techs to find a job in this market. But i've been in a hiring position before and if the person writing the payroll checks is a big penny pincher they will always go for the new grads who will not ask for much money over an expensive experienced candidate it's sad but true. That being said in this economy all industries are suffering and so are jobs, so it's not just ultrasound where people can't find work, if anything healthcare would be a safer bet than any other industry. I really do see more nursing jobs than any other but the road to becoming an RN is much more difficult and LONG than becoming a sonographer or echocardiographer... of all of the places to find work as a sonographer the easiest place to find work will be in an imaging center or registry (sort of a temp agency/mobile agency who have contracts with a number of physicians) and the harder places will be hospitals being unregistered as they have alot more on the line and need experienced techs working, there is no room for error in a hospital/emergency situation.

I do have a friend that hires echo-techs unregistered for her mobile business so for a fact i know it happens as well as students who finished externship at my school that have jobs that i've met so it really happens.

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LP22 in Santa Fe Springs, California

73 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: yes you can because people always want to employ people for as little as possible and because only two states have laws requiring techs to be registered Oregon and New Mexico you will find alot of jobs do not require ARDMS registration (but you will see alot of ARDMS registered preferred on the job listings). However in this economy even registered techs are finding it difficult to get a job and therefore they will take lower paying jobs if they must to survive making more difficult in the meantime for non-registered techs to find a job in this market. But i've been in a hiring position before and if the person writing the payroll checks is a big penny pincher they will always go for the new grads who will not ask for much money over an expensive experienced candidate it's sad but true. That being said in this economy all industries are suffering and so are jobs, so it's not just ultrasound where people can't find work, if anything healthcare would be a safer bet than any other industry. I really do see more nursing jobs than any other but the road to becoming an RN is much more difficult and LONG than becoming a sonographer or echocardiographer... of all of the places to find work as a sonographer the easiest place to find work will be in an imaging center or registry (sort of a temp agency/mobile agency who have contracts with a number of physicians) and the harder places will be hospitals being unregistered as they have alot more on the line and need experienced techs working, there is no room for error in a hospital/emergency situation.QUOTE]

Thats really good to know I'm just scared of going to West Coast Ultrasound institute and let it be worthless. It not cheap so its a big risk. But with all the community colleges only offering day classes it makes it diffcult to attend. Where did you graduate from?

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

73 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: Honestly it is a situation based decision. Do you have a bachelor? That's what made me decide that WCUI was right for me in particular. There was no wait list, i didn't have to retake 2 years of courses in general ed before i could even sign up for ultrasound at a CAAHEP school like OCC (which has a 2 year wait list i hear) and then not sure if that one was lottery based or grade based but either way that's a long time for me, the only thing i'd get out of it besides the disputed superior education is that if I DIDN'T already have a bachelor i could sit for my registries for ARDMS right away to be officially a registered tech in one or more modalities. But since I had a bachelor that meant i could sit for it as long as i fulfilled the 1 year of clinical experience for pre-req 3A since my past education fulfilled the education portion of the requirement, so my 1 year of experience i am getting in a 18 month program at WCUI which is actually longer than needed for ARDMS but sufficent training in my eyes, they have more than enough hours ARDMS requires 1680 i believe one program is over 1800 and DMS is over 2100 hours. I go during the day or morning, Dr. Emad is the best teacher especially if you've never been exposed to anatomy and physiology before, in all my years of education he is the best teacher i've ever met. That's for intro. Now i'm in vascular it's much more diffucult and a different teacher with different ways of explaining things so it's a bit more challenging BUT i still go back to Dr. Emad for tutoring to explain it to me HIS way and that's available for free and so is tutoring in the LAB. So far i like the school in ontario.

Bless your heart, Lea. I noticed your always there to answer
everyone's quesition.I'm starting WCUI in Oct.Despite all the
negative comments I've seen,WCUI is the best choice after looking
at several non-CAHEEP schools.Some are down right pitiful.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

Honestly I can't help it, ever since the first time i posted it emails me every flippin response and i feel compelled to answer because most of the questions i had myself. My friend at school thinks these forums unduly stress me out because i post on the ARDMS ones too and I read how stressed out everyone is all the time, for instance this weeks is how you can't really prepare for the way they ask you the questions, most prep tests included symptoms and things to lead you to the answer but the boards don't give you any info other than an image and when you get to seeing images you will see that something could be 5 different things and the only real way to tell is to have signs and symptoms so either they are missing something(like maybe visual qualitative analysis that they missed only EVERYONE is missing it ) or ARDMS really wants our money and really wants us to fail. THe majority passes by a few points so odds are that most techs are "average" which really sounds about right I suppose but it's sad OR/AND all of our educations sucked........take your pick. I wonder what docters board exam averages are, do they have to get 100 or fail or is it like ours...anyhow I'm only in my second module and i'm already thinking about something i won't be doing for another year but for the moment it takes my mind off of Upper extremity vascular pathologies i'm studying....fun times. I have found that going here has reduced me to living in two week increments because there is a test every two weeks. Good luck!

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

73 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: yes you can because people always want to employ people for as little as possible and because only two states have laws requiring techs to be registered Oregon and New Mexico you will find alot of jobs do not require ARDMS registration (but you will see alot of ARDMS registered preferred on the job listings). However in this economy even registered techs are finding it difficult to get a job and therefore they will take lower paying jobs if they must to survive making more difficult in the meantime for non-registered techs to find a job in this market. But i've been in a hiring position before and if the person writing the payroll checks is a big penny pincher they will always go for the new grads who will not ask for much money over an expensive experienced candidate it's sad but true. That being said in this economy all industries are suffering and so are jobs, so it's not just ultrasound where people can't find work, if anything healthcare would be a safer bet than any other industry. I really do see more nursing jobs than any other but the road to becoming an RN is much more difficult and LONG than becoming a sonographer or echocardiographer... of all of the places to find work as a sonographer the easiest place to find work will be in an imaging center or registry (sort of a temp agency/mobile agency who have contracts with a number of physicians) and the harder places will be hospitals being unregistered as they have alot more on the line and need experienced techs working, there is no room for error in a hospital/emergency situation.

I do have a friend that hires echo-techs unregistered for her mobile business so for a fact i know it happens as well as students who finished externship at my school that have jobs that i've met so it really happens.

Can you tell me what anatomy book you are using at WUCI?

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

Memmlers "the human body in health and disease" 11th edition and also we had a medical terminology book.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

Lea Newland in Wildomar, California said: Memmlers "the human body in health and disease" 11th edition and also we had a medical terminology book.

Now were on to Zwiebel and Pellerito's "Introduction to Vascular Ultrasonography" fifth edition

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Orinda in Los Angeles, California

73 months ago

Thanks,Lea.I will be taking physics on my second module.I guess
it depends how the schedule works or when you start.Good luck
with vascular.You been an asset to this forum and I thank you
for any help youhave given people.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

73 months ago

I'll be taking physics too in the morning. You are welcome!

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aliya in Azusa, California

73 months ago

can sombody help plz i have no rt background i want to do mri tech can guys help me and let me what job srcurity do these wcui offer u do they help u to get job in the hospitals and do they sent us to externsip or we have to look and find the hospital for extership

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Can't Tell You in South Gate, California

72 months ago

Jason Garcia in Ontario, California said: This is not true I'm a student there now and no way they can have a student working there they are not Everest College or UEI and even ACC that is what they do. And look at a community college and add all the years you will be there and books, and all the other stuff you will need. And it will come out to alot more money then this. And they WONT HELP YOU GET A JOB FOR NOTHING IN THE WORLD I MEAN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT JERK

There are many former students working there. If you say there are not you are ignorant to the fact or LYING. They may have worked there for a year or more, but fresh from school they were hired here. They do not hired experienced, ARDMS registered techs except the three they have Sue, Don and one other. A few who graduated from my class were hired to work for the school immediately. I took a Leave for a personal reason.s. Yes, students work there.

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Lponce in Whittier, California

72 months ago

Jason If you really think that its more expensive to go to community college than a private school you must not have made good reseach, the private school cost about 27,000.00- 34000.00 for one field. I have been going to a community college for a year now and it has not been more than 3000.00 yet! I do not qualify for financial aid so its all been out of pocket, so dont say its not more than a community college when clearly it is.

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

72 months ago

Can't Tell You in South Gate, California said: There are many former students working there. If you say there are not you are ignorant to the fact or LYING. They may have worked there for a year or more, but fresh from school they were hired here. They do not hired experienced, ARDMS registered techs except the three they have Sue, Don and one other. A few who graduated from my class were hired to work for the school immediately. I took a Leave for a personal reason.s. Yes, students work there.

At our campus (ontario) there are multiple lab instructors that are ARDMS registered techs, Dr. Bhaa, Gary, Kalati, Steve, to name a few, and who did not attend the school as well as graduated students who externed off site at hospitals and now work at the school. They are not STUDENTS any longer. They are no different than any other unregistered tech at that point that obtains a job anywhere else, their primary goal is to obtain their hours to qualify for registering. They did their proverbial "time" in school and at externship. The fact that they capitalized on a position until they find another "real" job is of no consequence in fact they were lucky in this economy to find a job at all. One lab instructor of ours quit recently because her other part time "real" job went full time and she was a great instructor. Registration is good but there are plenty of crappy scanners that were smart enough to pass ARDMS and their are plenty of good scanners that maybe are not book smart as much as talented with the transducer and have not passed the ARDMS or haven't received enough hours to take it and do not have a bachelor degree or higher. Furthermore the fact they are multitasking scanning and teaching will only help these guys in the future because they are learning supervisory skills while still seeing pathology in the clinic as well as students like me (2.3 cm complex cyst on my thyroid found first day of doing carotids,they tripped over it)....

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

72 months ago

Further more, for the most part these lab instructors at school are teaching the basics of scanning technique, how to do the protocol, how to understand the anatomy of what you are looking at on screen and determine landmarks, and for the most part yes everyone is pretty healthy which is good because after seeing healthy for so long you will definately notice abnormal, they just have to concentrate that we have the correct technique and that we use the machine accurately that we understand when to change SV/angle/color scale/doppler gain/color gain/baselines and why we are doing it wrong, it's the classroom instructors job (who are ARDMS certified or even Dr's) to tell you the whys and hows of the pathology, and in my case when we found my thyroid cyst the first thing we did besides take pictures was to go ask the certified tech/doctor to scan it also so it's not like you can't get second opinions within the school, and you can even sign up for free lab tutoring with the registered techs in particular if you feel the need to, i haven't found one unregistered tech giving me conflicting information from a registered tech, however i have received incorrect info from more senior students who hadn't yet gone to externship or graduated that were trying to be helpful so watch who you get advice from in that respect.

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Ashlyn in Lake Elsinore, California

72 months ago

aliya in Azusa, California said: can sombody help plz i have no rt background i want to do mri tech can guys help me and let me what job srcurity do these wcui offer u do they help u to get job in the hospitals and do they sent us to externsip or we have to look and find the hospital for extership

I'm wondering the same thing.
I want to go there for the sonography or possibly the medical
assisting program..but
i have no previous schooling or background in it..does that matter
& will that affect my chances in getting a job?
I'm currently enrolled in my community college but i feel
like it's a waste of time..i don't feel any closer to what i want to do
so i'm researching other schools i can attend.

Thank you for your help !

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

72 months ago

Ashlyn in Lake Elsinore, California said: I'm wondering the same thing.
I want to go there for the sonography or possibly the medical
assisting program..but
i have no previous schooling or background in it..does that matter
& will that affect my chances in getting a job?
I'm currently enrolled in my community college but i feel
like it's a waste of time..i don't feel any closer to what i want to do
so i'm researching other schools i can attend.

Thank you for your help !

Hi there, i am in the echo program at the ontario campus and i live near you, our campus doesn't offer MA yet so make sure you are clear on that (they could be starting it next module for all i know though) unless you are planning on driving all the way to LA, i hope not it's a long drive which we have to make once to register for the first time and i wouldn't wish it on anyone to do daily..., anyhow our campus is only offering DMS and Echo and MRI right now and i think nursing will be starting at the campus soon, i go to school with alot of people already in the field but I am not I came out of the advertising and graphic design industry and it is possible to get a job and get through the program but pretty challenging nonetheless. The school helps to secure your externship they have sites already but you are also welcome to find your own if you already know people in the industry who want you. Make sure MA is really your end goal though, from what i've heard they don't get paid as much as a nurse or even a DMS/Echo tech. I also can't help with knowingif our school is good for MA because i don't know the criteria after the fact like with ultrasound you need to get nationally registered and to do that you have to wait 1 year and work full time before you can sit for the exams or you have ot already havea bachelor in any subject to qualify to sit for the exam unless you go to an accredited (By CAAHEP) school

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Lea Newland in Wildomar, California

72 months ago

continued...i couldn't keep typing in the box..
anyhow, our school isn't accredited by CAAHEP for sonography so it's been a topic of conversation as you can see on these boards. The school is good at ontario, the teachers are fantastic. I can't speak for the beverly hills campus, but i like it and it's challenging.

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