ultrasound schools in toronto

Wow this is complete and utter BS. People posting under different names to advertise their own businesses. I'm gonna do my research somewhere else.

sarah in London, Ontario said: hey guys, I was just wondering if any of you know wheather or not they provide ultrasound tech schools in guelph, cambridge, or kitchener. I've been checking online all day and i only get toronto. thanks

hi
what schools in ontario did you get?

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: You may wish to contact Dr.Lubna Kaleem, ARDMS, CARDUP, CSDMS, OSDMS who is a practicing sonographer and offers hands-on training thru Toronto Centre for Ultrasound Studies.

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hi where did you get your licences and class or school to get the licences.is it in toronto or online school.please help

hi all...
i just came across this forum and found it a really great place to seek ultrasound advice..

i have cleared the ARDMS abdomen exam and am now planning to take the physics and ob/gyne... i have worked as an ultrasound tech back home but for a very short duration like abt 6 months or so...i want to know that after i clear my physics and ob/gyne exams and have the ARDMS liscence wat chances do i have at getting a job and how shud i proceed with my career...

thanks

nargis in Toronto, Ontario said: i want to do combine studies about utrasound exaim, any one who wants to join me please send me e mail

hi nargis

just saw ur post...i am also searching for a study partner...do let me know if ur still looking for one...i will then give u my contact no or u can mail me urs...

lisa in Toronto, Ontario said: i have a bachelor degree but not in the medical field. ardms website says that any major is accepted. do you still think it would be a waste of time to take these courses through these non-accredited places?
thanks syed!

I have a bachelor degree too and not in the medical field , did get anywhere?

Mrs. Tahir in Toronto, Ontario said: try Mainz ultrasound training in mississuaga

this school is not accrediyed... only go to an accredited ultrasound School.

u/s in Toronto, Ontario said: how to start a career in ultrasound? i am B.Sc.

Only go an accredited ultrasound school contact CARDUP.(canadian assoc of registered ultrasound professionals)

nicholle in Sanford, Florida said: from what i know as a fellow Canadian. You are better off taking your education at an American school. Here it takes two years and usually in Ontario it takes 4 years. Good luck

THIS IS NOT TRUE CANADIAN ULTRASOUND PROGRAMS OFFERED THROUGH AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL CAN TAKE AS LITTLE AS 15 Months TO 24 Months to yes 3 and 4 Years DEPENDING ON SCHOOL OF CHOICE>

lisa in Toronto, Ontario said: p.s mrs. tahir, have you taken courses with mainz? does anyone know if completion of mainz courses will actually get you hired as an ultrasound technician in clinics or hospitals? as most employers require education from an accredited school and ardms registration.

NO ONE WILL HIRE A GRADUATE FROM MAINZ IN CANADA . This is not an accredited school.

Melissa in Guelph, Ontario said: I know, setting up the appointment yesterday was kind of sketchy, I could barely understand the lady who answered. I read an article on this school that was a very positive one, but I am more interested to hear from people who have experienced this training. Thanks, I will definitely take that into consideration.

Only go to an accredited school please check the cardup web site. MAINZ is not accredited. check www.cardup.com

Lisa in Calgary, Alberta said: Hello,

I called a while back and found Mainz to be a bit Sketchy. I spoke with the instructor directly. She was difficult to understand,furthermore when I asked where in mississauga they were located, she responded and said that information could only be release after an appointmnt was made. She told me when I came in for my appointment a deposit of $100 Cash would only be accepted. I find that to be very strange. Most businesses offer other forms of payment. I am very unsure about how credible this place is and would love to hear some feedback. Thanks so much!

IF IN CALGARY YOU NEED TO APPLY TO SAIT in EDMONTON apply to NAIT
ONLY GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL > MAINZ IS NOT ONE

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: You may wish to contact Dr. Lubna Kaleem of the Toronto Centre for Ultrasound Studies. She is based in Mississauga, Ontario. She is a seasoned ultrasound specialist registered with ARDMS, CARDUP, CSDMS and OSDMS

NEVER HEARD OF THIS PLACE > PLEASE PEOPLE THERE IS A LOT OF FLY BY NIGHT OPPERATORS ... GO ONLY TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL . PLEASE CHECK WWW.CARDUP.COM FOR A LIST OF SCHOOLS . WITHOUT GOING TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL NO ONE WILL HIRE YOU

lisa in Toronto, Ontario said: hi syed.
are you in the field of ultrasound? i really want to pursue my career in ultrasound but really don't know what to do regarding taking any of these non-accredited training programs. Everywhere i look employers want ardms certified. Do clinics and hospitals actually hire for position of ultrasound-trainee?

HOSPITALs AND CLINICs ONLY HIRE ARDMS OR CARDUP REGISTERED PEOPLE WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: You may wish to contact Dr.Lubna Kaleem, ARDMS, CARDUP, CSDMS, OSDMS who is a practicing sonographer and offers hands-on training thru Toronto Centre for Ultrasound Studies.

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AVOID THIS PERSON

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: No, I am not in the field of sonography. However, I am familair with the healthcare industry.

I came across this forum by accident and reviewed posts w.r.t. ultrasound and felt that people are desparate and need direction. I thought I can contribute.

Responding to your question, as far as I know, hospitals may or may not hire trainees. However, with right contacts one can probably enter a diagnostic centre.

I would suggest that you first check the ARDMS pre-requisites to check if you meet the educational requirements. If you do, you now require the minimum experience required. This experience may be international or canadian. As long as you can have documentation available to show your experience requirement, you may be eligible to write the ARDMS examination.

If you do not qualify for the educational requirements, you do not need to attend any of these non-accredited training programs. It would be a waste of resources.

These non-accredited programs are useful if you meet requirements for the ARDMS. A good institution can provide guidance and resources in the preparation of the ARDMS registry examination. These institutions can also provide the opportunity for hands-on practical scanning.

Many of these training programs are offered by individuals who have probably never worked in Canada or the USA and are not associated with local professional institutions and may not be the right choice. Anonymous articles have also been posted on the web in praise of these training programs. Carfeully review the websites and look for practicing sonographers as instructors with Canadian experience . Do not fall for claims that you think are not realistic.

I came across the www.toronto-ultrasound.com and went through the website and found that they are not making unrealistic claims. They clearly state that they do not offer job placement services. One can get a good reference from the instructor herself. Browse th

saritochka@yandex.ru in Richmond Hill, Ontario said: I was a doctor back home, so I had to know ultrasound in order to work. Here I also worked a few places but had no chance to show what I can do due to the interval between me coming here and starting working. I was not suitable for them, I was not fast enough and ....

DO YOU HAVE ARDMS OR CARDUP ?
ARE YOU A GRAD OF A CANADIAN RECOGNIZED ULTRASOUND PROGRAM?
PLEASE CHECK OUT THE CARDUP WEB SITE FOR TRAINING. www.cardup.com
CANADIANS REQUIRE A HIGH LEVEL OF EXPERTISE.

Barbara Pon in oakville, Ontario said: I am an ultrasound technologist working in Oakville. To further enhance my skills, I contacted Mainz and was able to visit the institute after 3-months of my call. This was a few months back. The facilities included a sofa in the living room of a small appartment.

During my visit, I somehow concluded that the instructor lacks in practical experience and knowledge and the training is based on text book information. The only advantage it offered included access to an ultrasound machine.

It seemed like a waste of money and i decided not to pusue any further.

WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS ??? ARE YOU ARDMS OR CARDUP???
WHERE DO YOU WORK????
SOMEONE WITH A CARDUP OR ARDMS BACKGROUND WOULDN'T EVEN BOTHER LOOKING AT MAINZ AS THEY ALREADY KNOW IT IS A FLY BY NIGHT OPERATION>

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: You have a good chance of becoming an ultrasound technologist. I would suggest that you get a letter from your home country to fulfill the experience requirement for the ARDMS. Next you register for the "Ultrasound Physics and Instrumentation specialty exam and join a practical scanning training program.

You can benefit from a suitable training facility. However, be careful in selecting a training facility. Work with a practicing sonographer sine you will require professional assistance on job after completing the training.

BEST IF YOU GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL CKECK OUT THE CARDUP WEB SITE
WWW.cardup.com otherwise you'll be wasting yoour money and time and no one will hire you. BE WARY OF THESE FLY BY NIGHT SCHOOLS

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said:

hey avoid this place please ... please only GO to an accredited ultrasound school you can find these by going to www.cardup.com
if you do not go to an accredited school you'll waste both your money and your time as no one will hire you without ARDMS or CARDUP credintials.
Do not listen to the the last person who posted if you want a job .
I have been ultrasound for 15 years and I am both ARDMS and CARDUP
in my opinion as of today the CARDUP credential is better.

sam in Toronto, Ontario said: Sorry guys, but I'm starting to get really confused by all these different informations.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like if I wanna be an ultrasound technician, first I should take my courses that are accredited, such as the Burwin institude (since it's extremely hard to get into Michiner or Mowhawk), then I could get the practical experience through www.toronto-ultrasound.com . Then after 12months of working as a tech I can write the ARDMS and be certified? Do I have it correct? Please help me clarify this.
And I guess we should all really forget about Mainz!!
Why is it soooo hard to become a technician, when there is such a lack of technicians in Ontario?
Anyway...thanks everyone.

IT IS HARD BECOUSE CANADA NEEDS HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE DIAGNISTIC IMAGE. YOU DO NOT WANT A SUBPAR EXAM FOR YOUR LOVED ONES DO YOU?
THE TRAING THROUGH AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL IS DIFFICULT BUT WHEN YOU GRADUATE YOU"LL HAVE THE EXPERIANCE THAT EMPLOYERS WANT.
TAKE THE EASY ROAD AND YOU'll BE WASTING BOTH YOUR TIME AND MONEY.
ARDMS or CARDUP registry will get you a job anywhere.
PLEASE BE WARY OF THE NON ACCREDITED SCHOOLS. BIG PROMISES BUT NO JOB IN THE END.
GO THE www.cardup.com
PS : I have been an ultrasound tech for 15 years and I am both ARDMS and CARDUP
THIS IS WHAT OUR PATIENTS DESERVE

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said:

YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT www.cardup.com FOR A LIST OF ACCREDITED ULTRASOUND SCHOOLS>
CARDUP ALSO PROVIDES A CLINICAL SKILLS TEST WHICH EMPLOYERS LOVE AS IT PROVES THAT YOU CAN SCAN WITH EXPERTISE.
I AM A SONOGRAPHER WITH 16 years experiance and I am both ARDMS and CARDUP

Anatoli Wladyczack in Toronto, Ontario said: I migrated to Canada six years back.

I attended an ultrasound training in Toronto> A girl lubna also attended the training. She was wonderful and attended the training to know canadian protocols. But she displayed her professional talent and was more like a demonstrator. I learned many things from her and was in contact with her for about 2 years.

She was a new immigrant also and was a successful gynaecologist and a sonologist in her own country and was struggling in canada. I know that she was referenced by the training instructor and was immediately hired by a leading diagnostic centre in Toronto. Each time I needed professional help, I referred to her.

If it is the same lubnawith Toronto-ultrasound, I will highly recommend her.

PLEASE AVOID THSES PEOPLE . ONLY GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL
SEE www.cardup.com

Tara Steller in Mississauga, Ontario said: Due to my committments, I had to reschedule my visit to Sunday.

Following is the summary of my visit to the Toronto Centre for Ultrasound Studies. This is in 2-parts.

I was received by an attractive woman with soft manners and slight stammer who introduced herself to be <name removed>, the instructor.

The training location is an impressive house of over 4,000 square feet with 6 to 8 car driveway. A part of main level and a spacious basement has been dedicated to the facility. As claimed, the training facilities consisted of a simulated ultrasound examination room with an ATL ultrasound machine with all required probes and equipped with printer and VCR recording. I use an ATL at my diagnostic centre however, this machine seemed an advanced version. I am aware that ATL is one of the preferred machines at various hospitals and diagnostic centers. Other facilities included a lecture/ study room for six with multimedia projector and white board and 2 informal rooms with large screen plasma TV. Coffee and tea was available for the participants.

The facility has a sizeable volume of print material, CD’s and DVD’s was available. Some of the material I reviewed during my tour included physics and instrumentation, abdomen, gynecology and obstetrics, musculoskeletal and vascular. Additional study material on medical qualifying examination was also seen.

PLEASE AVOID THESE FLY BY NIGHT SCHOOLS
ONLY GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL AS RECOGNIZED BY THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT.
go to www.cardup.com for a list of these schools.
CANADIAN EMPLOYERS WILL ONLY HIRE ARDMS OR CADUP registered people
I SHOULD KNOW AS I AM A SONOGRAPHER WITH 16 years experiance and ARDMS and CARDUP registered

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: Welcome to Canada. I have done some research but could not find any training facility in Alberta. I am sure there will be some. But either there is no website or the website is not searchable. You may wish to consult ultrasound technicians in Alberta. I do know that those desirous to undertake ultrasound studies come to Ontario.

I see a post from Lisa in Calgary above. You may send a post to her and she may be able to assist.

COME ON PEOPLE .... SAIT IN CALGARY HAS A WORLD WIDE KNOWN TRAING PROGRAM.
THE PROGRAM IS GOVERNMENT ACCREDITED AND recognized by CARDUP
the CANADIAN ULTRASOUND REGISTRY BODY
THEY HAVE HIGH STANDARDS AND GRADUATE ABOUT 18-20 STUDENTS A YEAR. THESE GRADUATES ARE hired immediately due to the high level of training.
for other schools check out www.cardup.com

ps I am a sonographer with 16 years experiance

Raymond in Toronto, Ontario said: I reviewed all comments and to me it looks like two places that offer training, try to advertise themselves by posting comments under different names and fooling people. PEOPLE!!! if you want to be a successful ultrasonographer, you MUST go to an accredited school and get your CARDUP/ARDMS. Ohterwise, you will struggle job hunting and will be underpaid. MOST places prefer registered sonographers with approved education!!!

THAN YOU FOR THE VOICE OF WISDOM
ARDMS/CARDUP
THANK YOU THANK YOU

Raymond in Toronto, Ontario said: Does anybody know anyone who got a decent job after completing these courses? Of course, you can even pass ARDMS without going to those courses if you are intelligent enough to study and able to get your Clinical Verification form signed by a sonographer and fulfilling other requirements. But what I am saying is you can not get a well paid full time job without graduating from an accredited approved training program, such as Michener. Does it worth all your efforts and money? just to have $15/hour part time job? that is also not guaranteed? and also, in the future, they want to regulate the profession, that means that only certain people with certain qualifications will be eligible to work. Even now, employers prefer certain people. I think ARDMS will not be accepted by employers in the near future. CARDUP is developing canadian exams and making the all process very hard.

CARDUP MAKES IT HARD BECOUSE WE ONLY WANT HIGHLY QUALIFIED POEOPLE WORKING ON THOSE WE LOVE . DO YOU WANT SOMEONE WITH INFERIOR TRAING WORKING ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBER????
CARDUP IS WORLD KNOWN FOR ITS HIGHLY QUALIFIED SONOGRAPHERS. DO IT RIGHT AND GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL RECOGNIZED BY THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT GET YOUR CARDUP CREDENTIAL THEN START WORKING .
AND ARDMS WILL ALWAYS BE RECOGNIZED BUT RIGHT NOW CARDUP HAS THE CLINICAL SKILL ASSESSMENT WHICH MAKES IT SUPERIOR.
go to www.cardup.com

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: I would not narrow down on this conclusion since the term "Formal training" does not specify accredited training program. As stated by Raymond above "you can even pass ARDMS without going to those courses if you are intelligent enough to study and able to get your Clinical Verification form signed by a sonographer and fulfilling other requirements". This is the reality.

yes but then you won't be able to scan and the employer will notice this first day on the job. get smart ... go to www.cardup.com and go to an accredited school and get the cardup credential.
do this for your loved ones and mine as I do not weant subpar sonographers working on my family

sam in Toronto, Ontario said: One thing to keep in mind for those interested entering the Michiner program...I called them today and they said they have over 300 applicants every year and they except only 20!!!! You have to meet all their criteria and even more!

YES WE ONLY WANT THE BEST

lisa in Toronto, Ontario said: hi barb

do you know if she gives a certificate of some sort after completing the courses?187

hi lisa
didn't you say your bachelor degree was not in the medical field???
I read on the toronto centre websit that the courses are only for ultrasound technologist who wish to improve their skills, could you explain?

lisa in Toronto, Ontario said: hi syed.
are you in the field of ultrasound? i really want to pursue my career in ultrasound but really don't know what to do regarding taking any of these non-accredited training programs. Everywhere i look employers want ardms certified. Do clinics and hospitals actually hire for position of ultrasound-trainee?

How did you start a career in ultrasound?

scott in Calgary, Alberta said: THIS IS NOT TRUE CANADIAN ULTRASOUND PROGRAMS OFFERED THROUGH AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL CAN TAKE AS LITTLE AS 15 Months TO 24 Months to yes 3 and 4 Years DEPENDING ON SCHOOL OF CHOICE>

which schools will take 15 or 24 months as you said?

hi scott,
you keep on saying go to cardup for schools I can not find scools in canada i got only US schools.

Yes,you are right, I also did not find any certified school of ultra sound in Toronto, except Michiner.

Taj in Toronto, Ontario said: Yes,you are right, I also did not find any certified school of ultra sound in Toronto, except Michiner.

Hi Taj,
Are you studying sonography ? any plan to give ardms

Mohawk/ McMaster in Hamilton, Ont has a medical radiation science program. It is a 4 year program and you have the option of going into ultrasound, x-ray or radiation therapy after your first year of university. It is a recognized school, it's a great program, very well structured and gives you enoguh clinical experience. I will be graduating soon from the program and I know that it definately prepares you well.

This is a link that describes how the program is set up.
registrar.mcmaster.ca/CALENDAR/year2006/sec_528.htm

may in Mississauga, Ontario said: hi scott,
you keep on saying go to cardup for schools I can not find scools in canada i got only US schools.

Mitchner, Mohawk,Winipeg Health sciences, Dalhousie, SAIT, NAIT,BCIT
you can find these schools on the cardup web site or take some initiative and phone the CARDUP head office on the web sit under contact us.
scott

mitchner, mohawk,BCIT,Dalhousie,NAIT,SAIT,winnipeg health sciences

BCIT and winnipeg health sciences both offer an accredited course that is approx. 15 months long. only go to an accredited school please note that mainz in toronto is not one of the accredited schools.
mitchner, mohawk, dalhousie, NAIT,SAIT are all accredited.

Taj in Toronto, Ontario said: Is there any job opportunity for medical doctors trained abroad?They could not work as a doctor in Canada ,what else they can do,any thing related to their profession?like ultra sound?Any personal experience?

Sure go back to school... take an accredited ultrasound training program through NAIT in Edmonton,SAIT in Calgary,BCIT in B.C., Mitchner or Mohawk, Dalhousie , Winnipeg health sciences.
Then become CARDUP registered and after that you can work anywhere. It will not be easy though. Lots of fly by night schools like Mainz in Toronto will take your money but you will not get a job after. Do lots of research and only go to an accredited school ... go to your local hospital and find out where they did there training. Actually if you are a doctor from another country you should already know these steps... nothing good comes easy. Good luck

Syed Rahman in Mississauga, Ontario said: You may wish to contact Dr.Lubna Kaleem, ARDMS, CARDUP, CSDMS, OSDMS who is a practicing sonographer and offers hands-on training thru Toronto Centre for Ultrasound Studies.

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please note that this is not a school that any self respecting sonographer would ever go to this school is not I repeat not accredited. thank you scott in calgary

go to accredited school onlt please

I agree with Scott. In order to work as a sonographer in Canada, you must attend an accredited program. I went to Mohawk in Hamilton, Ontario. SAIT and NAIT in alberta also have good programs. A bare minimum for being hired in Canada is to have your ARDMS. Pretty soon CARDUP (www.cardup.org) will be also a mandatory requirement to practice/perform ultrasounds in Canada. Unless you attend an accredited program, you can never be CARDUP registered....

Call CARDUP if you have questions but please do not waste money on training that will not be adequate enough to work!!

Hi Raymond in toronto.... i don't know what you and syed are talking about ....ultrasound technologists make more than $15 an hour.... and if you are doing ultrasound and only getting $15 an hour, you are either very bad...or being taken.

The various posts and comments on this forum are very interesting. While many are trying to find useful info, a few are marketing for accredited institutions. 17 targeted e-mails in one night from an individual Wow! frustrated?

I would like to offer the following comments for the sole purposes of assisting those who seek information,

1. Those who wish to start fresh careers must attend the accredited institutions. Unlike some of the members posting, Mitchener is not the only institution. This institution was closed for one year for undisclosed reasons and re-opened with limited enrolment.
2. The list of Canadian accredited institutions is available at www.csdms.com under Resources\Educational Programs.
3. There are several non-accredited training facilities in the Toronto Region. Many of them are run by graduates from Mitchener and portray themselves as a school/ college charging excessive fees. These graduates claim that they follow Mitchener training practices by showing scanning video only.

This is most unfortunate that some of the recent posts are issued by individuals without following the trail of comments. $15/ hr was originally posted by a Mitchener supporter.

I am working as a sonographer registered as a general, RVT and RDCS and working for over 19-years. If I need to develop skills in MSK, should I join Mitchener for a graduate degree as suggested in some of the posts?

I would suggest that members must try to identify the differences b/w Accredited degree awarding institutions and the continuing education programs. It is unfortunate that many of the degree awarding institutions have limited capacity.

rox b in Calgary, Alberta said: I agree with Scott. In order to work as a sonographer in Canada, you must attend an accredited program. I went to Mohawk in Hamilton, Ontario. SAIT and NAIT in alberta also have good programs. A bare minimum for being hired in Canada is to have your ARDMS. Pretty soon CARDUP ( www.cardup.org ) will be also a mandatory requirement to practice/perform ultrasounds in Canada. Unless you attend an accredited program, you can never be CARDUP registered....

Call CARDUP if you have questions but please do not waste money on training that will not be adequate enough to work!!

I do not think that it is true that CSDMS(CARDUP) will be a mandatory requirement in Canada in the near future nor any such thing is in pipeline in near future. I would agree that some employers would prefer CSDMS registration. In addition, one province has such requirement for a few years.

If you are aware of such legislation, please share the details of the legislation.

Useful information by Holly Smith .

To, Ravinder in Toronto,
Yes, I am planning to take ARDMS, and practical training for ultra sound, not started yet, looking for some school in which I can practice U/S

As stated earlier, those who are starting fresh carriers in ultrasound must look into joining the accredited institutions and refrain from the non-accredited training facilities particularly the ones I described above. You cannot develop skills by watching video.

Non-accredited continuing education programs can be helpful in developing additional skills and in the fine tuning of the scanning skills. However, one must be careful in selecting such facilities. Do not fall for claims for job placements.

did u start studies for exaim , i heard lot of people they do their studies first then after passing their exaims they joins any private school for hand on practice.