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Ex Tech in Phoenix, Arizona

58 months ago

OUT OF WORK in Cairo, Georgia said: YEAH MY LOCAL SCHOOL KEEPS PUMPING OUT THE RADIOLOGY TECHS NOT BOTHERING TO TELL THEM THERE ARE NO JOBS WITHIN A 300 MILE RADIUS! I HAVE A FAMILY AN A SMALL CHILD SO I CANT JUST PICK UP MY LIFE AN GO FOLLOWING A JOB ACROSS COUNTRY! I HAVE TOTALLY WASTED MY YEARS OF PRE- REQ. CLASSES AN 2 YEARS OF SLAVING IN CLINICALS! PLUS I GOTTA PAY FOR CE CREDITS WHEN I CANT EVEN GET A JOB! IM SOOOO PISSSED!

OWNED

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cmd in Passaic, New Jersey

58 months ago

Heather in New Haven, CT,

This is one of the most valid, and well put together comments I have encountered on this forum. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Those of you out there, taking x-rays is not the only job. The medical imaging industry offers a wide range of other career opportunities - PACS administrator, applications specialists, clinical instructors (not a bad choice if you are looking for flexibility), just to name a few. So if you think you have had enough of diagnostic radiology, please explore other options which might prove more fulfilling to you. Good luck, and be of good cheer. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

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pfft in Whitestone, New York

57 months ago

camd in Paterson, New Jersey said: ...Naturally, a technologist would have gone to at least a two-year college and acquire an associates degree in applied science for Radiologic Technonogy (there are baccalaureate programs out there too). A technician would be someone who had on-the-job training, say at a hospital based radiography program, with less classroom experience than the college student. Unfortunately, while there is no difference in the compensation, this allows the college graduate to be more marketable, and to move up the ranks faster than the person with just a certificate...

If you have a college degree already, I don't see the point in going to a 4 year program unless you want the degree in radiologic sciences. I attended a hospital based program in NYC and from the people I've met from other programs, I can tell you that my training (both didactic and clinical) was leaps and bounds ahead of theirs. There is no difference between my certificate from the ARRT and an RT from any other program. We are ALL R.T.(R) -- REGISTERED TECHNOLOGISTS in the field of RADIOGRAPHY.
Maybe you should be the one checking your facts and spelling (Technonogy?) before posting.

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Savvy Chic in Fort Worth, Texas

57 months ago

Laid Off in Palm Springs, California said: Go to RN school. The opportunities for RN's far outnumber the opportunities for Rad Techs. IMO, the work of the RN is much the same as a Rad Tech. Its all healthcare and people. I've been a Rad Tech for 30 years and have done it all, CT, Nuc Med, Cath Lab, Specials,. The issue with radiography is that there is a very limited ability to move up. It doesn't matter if its Nuc Med., Cath, MRI or CT, its all a technical job. The ability to move up as a Rad Tech comes as part of advancement into management, which requires BA and MA-MBA degrees.

As an RN the opportunities are much greater, the pay is higher AND there are 1000's of jobs to choose from. Nurses are held in much higher esteem than Rad Techs, as I said in a post above its always "doctors and nurses". It is NEVER "doctors and technologists".

My advice is to become an RN. Even if you never go to another day of school you will have a license that will serve you well and support you for the rest of your life.

But also, as the above poster said, do your own research and make an informed decision. IMO, nursing the the better decision for this economy.

Please people do your research first cause it is not as easy as they say to get into the nursing program..They have fity seats available and over a thousand or so people that have applied to get into the class..It use to be a demand for nurses that people were giving sign on bonuses but not anymore..I think you should do something you love and enjoy..Get into a field that allows for growth an advancement..Half of RN's are divorced or single cause all they do is work and half of the work two jobs..What kind of life is that..Just do your research and be informed..They may say doctors and nurses but guess what they can't do it alone..Doctor's and nurses need help they can't run the hospital or doctor's office alone..

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jaymee in Staten Island, New York

57 months ago

UNTOLD TRUTH in Fairfax, Virginia said: OUT OF WORK in Cairo, Georga,
I have been there and done that!
Can you believe the idiots that get on here and ask where they can go to school. Even after all the information here and on other sites and places, telling them how the job market is so bad due to the "drug pushing" like schools, even though they know how bad things are!
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF US!

I don't consider the ppl asking about how to get started "idiots" as I am one who was asking that question. The market will be getting better by the time us "idiots" finish our pre requisites and go to at least a 2 year program and internship and alot of us are changing careers and have to do something and keep a positive attitude. At least radiography is a stepping stone to other types of scanning so their might be more job opportunity and growth as opposed to just doing ultrasound, and I know nursing is in demand right now, but alot of ppl are just not cut out for nursing (myself included).

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Elly in Bronx, New York

56 months ago

pfft in Whitestone, New York said: If you have a college degree already, I don't see the point in going to a 4 year program unless you want the degree in radiologic sciences. I attended a hospital based program in NYC and from the people I've met from other programs, I can tell you that my training (both didactic and clinical) was leaps and bounds ahead of theirs. There is no difference between my certificate from the ARRT and an RT from any other program. We are ALL R.T.(R) -- REGISTERED TECHNOLOGISTS in the field of RADIOGRAPHY.
Maybe you should be the one checking your facts and spelling (Technonogy?) before posting.

pfft,

What program did you attend. Was it hard to get into? What tips would you give on applying. I'm applying to several this year as well.
TIA

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justmeinradtech in Garfield, New Jersey

56 months ago

I have been in this profession for more than 26 years. I LOVE IT. Why are there complaints? I have a certification in what I do...and a mammographer certification also. It is not like you cannot progress yourself. Do what you need to do. When I went to school,
we needed 3600 clinical hours, meaning weekends and nights, that gave me the best experience I ever could have had. I learned more in trauma those hours than you could imagine. I know the program in PCC. It is great. Maybe you just didn't get enough hours in. Just go for what you want.

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Lily in New Jersey in Le Chesnay, France

56 months ago

I'm just finishing up my prereq was towards' Rad Tech. I'm the one supporting the family, and I don't have time to make a mistake in my direction. I'm thinking of going toward's the nursing or MRI not the rad tech route. After recieveing some very informative information from some of you. My question is . Do you think it's a good idea to finish the Assoc in Science's and go onto MRI or Nursing. I don't want to finish in two year's and find no job. If it's so flooded with applicant's I don't percieve this will suddenly prosper in the next two year's so quickly, and everyone will get a job. I wish that could happen, but is that realistic. It will take some time it's seem's in the Rad field to balance itself out. Anyone have any advice. Thank you very much. I appreciate any feedback.

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Hmm... in Austin, Texas

56 months ago

Im currently attending a school to become a LMRT and so far the grads that have been coming out of my school are being hired on by the externship sites they worked at. They come back to school every once in awhile to let us know how work is going for them and it seems exciting! Im ready to get out there!! Our instructor did mention that since we are LMRTs, we can do almost everything that a RT can do but the pay might not be as high. Clinics and hospitals are more willing to hire a LMRT over a RT so they wont have to pay them as much since both can pretty much do the same stuff. So to everyone going to school to be a RT or LMRT, dont be discouraged. Jobs are still out there...maybe not in high demand, but u can find them. (at least in this area)

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Cynical in Austin... in Austin, Texas

56 months ago

I went to school in Austin for LMRT and have had a hell of a time finding a job. First of all, hospitals don't hire LMRT's! Good lucking getting your extern site to hire you, that rarely happens. I was excited when I finished, but soon got a dose of reality. It took me 5 months to find a job and all I could find was part-time. The schools are flooding the market with LMRT's and with fewer doctors doing in-house x-rays, jobs are far and few between. If you find a job, hold onto it! The schools make it sound so glorious as if the jobs are bountiful... they're not. Best of luck to you.

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Hmm... in Austin, Texas

55 months ago

i find it strange that you say they dont hire LMRTs at hopitals because i know one of the evening instructors is an LMRT and he works at a hospital.

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BS,RT(R) in Columbus, Mississippi

55 months ago

cmd in Passaic, New Jersey said: Connie,

I AM WRITING IN BOLD LETTERS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE BUT AN RT CAN TAKE IT'S THE LAW! X-RAYS. MEDICAL ASSISTANTS ARE NOT TRAINED HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED IN RADIATION SAFETY. HANG IN THERE,AND BE CAREFUL

In order to expose a patient to radiation...it MUST be within that profession's scope of practice! Each state has different laws as to whether or not this is mandated by being registered by the ARRT, or OJT (on-job-training) certifications are sufficient. Where I work...(to my knowledge) the only people who can actually "button-push" are ARRT Registered technologists & physicians!!

it is the same thing as a prescription...a doctor's order MUST be written & verified for an xray...& performing the xray is the same thing as administering medication!! The patient is being exposed to something potentially harmful if not admibnistered in the correct doses!!

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ERICA26LOVE in baltimore, Maryland

54 months ago

Lily in New Jersey in Le Chesnay, France said: I'm just finishing up my prereq was towards' Rad Tech. I'm the one supporting the family, and I don't have time to make a mistake in my direction. I'm thinking of going toward's the nursing or MRI not the rad tech route. After recieveing some very informative information from some of you. My question is . Do you think it's a good idea to finish the Assoc in Science's and go onto MRI or Nursing. I don't want to finish in two year's and find no job. If it's so flooded with applicant's I don't percieve this will suddenly prosper in the next two year's so quickly, and everyone will get a job. I wish that could happen, but is that realistic. It will take some time it's seem's in the Rad field to balance itself out. Anyone have any advice. Thank you very much. I appreciate any feedback.

i would say nursing because its in demand !!!!

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Tucsontech in Tucson, Arizona

54 months ago

Ex Tech in Phoenix, Arizona said: OWNED

Slaving is right! I think there was a deal made with the devil to get our free , chest xray taking, butts.

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Lillie in Phoenix, Arizona

53 months ago

Tucsontech in Tucson, Arizona said: Slaving is right! I think there was a deal made with the devil to get our free , chest xray taking, butts.

I have had all I can take doing x-rays and mammos.Beyond blood out of a turnip.Notice how allot of jobs dont even have benefits.

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kkp in Greenville, Kentucky

51 months ago

Are there specific training/education requirements for shooting chest x-rays (only) on a mobile health unit, which travels nation-wide?

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Lisa in Baltimore, Maryland

46 months ago

Lily in New Jersey in Le Chesnay, France said: I'm just finishing up my prereq was towards' Rad Tech. I'm the one supporting the family, and I don't have time to make a mistake in my direction. I'm thinking of going toward's the nursing or MRI not the rad tech route. After recieveing some very informative information from some of you. My question is . Do you think it's a good idea to finish the Assoc in Science's and go onto MRI or Nursing. I don't want to finish in two year's and find no job. If it's so flooded with applicant's I don't percieve this will suddenly prosper in the next two year's so quickly, and everyone will get a job. I wish that could happen, but is that realistic. It will take some time it's seem's in the Rad field to balance itself out. Anyone have any advice. Thank you very much. I appreciate any feedback.

If you can wrap your brain around the physics aspect of MRI or Rad (MRI does not use Radiation to produce images) then by all means go for it!

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THE TRUTH in Fairfax, Virginia

46 months ago

Go into nursing! The is a world wide demand.
All medical imaging is terrible.

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BZ in Jacksonville, Florida

44 months ago

I want to change careers, and I am torn between RN or radiography technician, which way should I go?

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vin in Flushing, New York

44 months ago

BZ in Jacksonville, Florida said: I want to change careers, and I am torn between RN or radiography technician, which way should I go?

go for nursing. you wont repent.

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Jamie in Sacramento, California

44 months ago

I'm actually starting to become interested in x-ray tech. Veryyyyyy interested. I've only had experience with dental x-rays though because I was an RDA for 2 years and now pursuing dental hygiene. The job outlook is so much better than it is for hygiene..

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anna in Portland, Oregon

44 months ago

Laid Off in Palm Springs, California said: GO TO RN SCHOOL...REPEAT DO NOT GO INTO MRI, you do not need a license to do MRI, since there is no radiation involved, BUT, most employers require you to be a fully licensed technologist just for the advanced medical imaging background you will have obtained. Its much easier to be an MRI tech if you are already a CT tech.....GO TO RN SCHOOL...GO INTO REGISTERED NURSING...DO NOT WASTE YOUR VALUABLE TIME IN THE IMAGING AREA. NO JOBS IN IMAGING AND 1000'S OF JOBS FOR RN.

Think about it, society always uses the term "doctors and nurses", its never
"doctors and radiologic technologists"

GO TO RN SCHOOL

not true

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MRI / CT Tech in in Miami, Florida

44 months ago

anna in Portland, Oregon said: not true

I agree....This is not true...Most places require MRI techs to be ARRT certified in MRI, and although some may hire with just your RT certification, they will require you to get MRI cert within a certain period of time...There are not THOUSANDS of jobs in MRI but there are enough that if you market yourself properly, and make yourself valuable by learning multiple modalities, you will never be out of work. I can agree to a certain extent that nurses have more opportunities to grow in their field when they have a masters, but then again, how many RT's have their masters? Not too many. Just an example of opportunities to grow, the Vice President of Baptist Outpatient services in south florida, was a Nuclear Medicine tech...I'd venture to say he makes 6 figures now...So if you want to grow, theres oppotunity. And for what its worth, I make the same as an RN, doing MRI for the same company.

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NUWRIGHT in El Cajon, California

42 months ago

I find it interesting that there are so many negative posting, regarding our field. Granted there is a very difficult wall to climb these days to get employment. Especially here in California. I disagree with the become a nurse advice. These are apples and oranges with totally different missions. We become Technologist or Technicians because of a specific desire. The thought of being a nurse would never appeal to me. I've been a multi modality Tech for plus 31 years here in San Diego Ca. would not trade it for the world. The RN field is nice, if you want to be a nurse. But, trust me most are in it for the money and a vast majority truely go home unhappy. I have never gone home unhappy, actually can't wait to get back to work everyday. I am a retired Navy fella, 90 percent of the community knows me very well. The field is what you make of it. As for the salary, I've never earned in 12 years less than six figures. Some may say I work hard, but when you "LOVE" what you do it very easy. Doctor and nurse is common used in the same sentence, But, is a radiologist not a doctor, ask him if he can do his job without us. I doubt it! Become a technologist because you love what we do, beacuse you love the care we give. As it is said if you love what you do you;ll never work a hard day in your life. Nursing is a escape route for most in the field, they all are not happy. Nate Wright RT/R 4life :)

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NUWRIGHT in El Cajon, California

42 months ago

MRI / CT Tech in in Miami, Florida said: I agree....This is not true...Most places require MRI techs to be ARRT certified in MRI, and although some may hire with just your RT certification, they will require you to get MRI cert within a certain period of time...There are not THOUSANDS of jobs in MRI but there are enough that if you market yourself properly, and make yourself valuable by learning multiple modalities, you will never be out of work. I can agree to a certain extent that nurses have more opportunities to grow in their field when they have a masters, but then again, how many RT's have their masters? Not too many. Just an example of opportunities to grow, the Vice President of Baptist Outpatient services in south florida, was a Nuclear Medicine tech...I'd venture to say he makes 6 figures now...So if you want to grow, theres oppotunity. And for what its worth, I make the same as an RN, doing MRI for the same company.

NIIIIIICE!!!! the attitude of the negative tech is exactly why he is having a hard time,, it's funny because I know him also. maybe the heat is getting to him :) Keep it positive --

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

I am been trying to find job in Nuclear Medicine field for about a year now and there are absolutely no jobs. I am now thinking about going into PACS. However, many jobs ask for IT or PACS experience and I have neither. I did work with PACS in Nuclear but that's about it. Is it smart to go to college for certificate PACS program or am I better off with getting certified in another modality like Ultrasound.

Imaging market is very bad and there are no signs of recovery for at least 5 years. Is becoming PACS administrator right path for the imaging professionals?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Newark, Delaware said: I am been trying to find job in Nuclear Medicine field for about a year now and there are absolutely no jobs. I am now thinking about going into PACS. However, many jobs ask for IT or PACS experience and I have neither. I did work with PACS in Nuclear but that's about it. Is it smart to go to college for certificate PACS program or am I better off with getting certified in another modality like Ultrasound.

Imaging market is very bad and there are no signs of recovery for at least 5 years. Is becoming PACS administrator right path for the imaging professionals?

anishp403...If you want to go into PACS you better get some sort of degree in IT (Management of Information Systems, Computer Science, or Information Assurance). There is very little tie in between being a PACS Administrator and being an x-ray tech. The job is very technical in nature. The only advantage an xray tech has is that they can talk to medical people. If you are looking for a job in Nuc Med then you already have a BS in something, thus changing course to get a degree in of those I mentioned above is not a big leap. You wouldn't have to take a lot of the humanities, english etc and could focus on the core classes. A PACS certificate is worthless. I have one, a PACS certificate, and no one would hire me for PACS. They all told me that a PACS certificate wasn't enough to be a PACS Admin. I went back to school and got a degree in IT in 3yrs time. I would have been done sooner but was working full time. Ended up working as a PACS Admin for a while before leaving the medical field all together to find greater opportunities.

Here are some of the things you will need to know as a PACS Admin (this is just a sampling): 1. Fat vs Thin client 2. CLI 3. Scripting 4. ODBC, JDBC etc 5. DBA 6. Data Mining 7. Some programming in C, C++, Java, Javascript, Perl / PHP / Coldfusion (for web based applications), SQL 8. Networking 9. etc

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anishp403@yahoo.com in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

42 months ago

May I ask where you got your PACS certificate from? How is the PACS field?

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anishp403@yahoo.com in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

42 months ago

May I ask where you got your PACS certificate from? How is the PACS field?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403@yahoo.com in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: May I ask where you got your PACS certificate from? How is the PACS field?

I got mine online through Clarkson College. The PACS field is an extremely niche field. There are probably jobs out there but you will likely have to relocate to get one, and as I mentioned a PACS certificate is not enough to get you a job. They are more interested in your IT background than anything. What is your IT experience and/or education. When PACS first came on the scence they would train people on the job but now they can be picky. Get a degree in IT then try to get into PACS. Forget about the PACS certificate, it's a waste of time.

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

I don't have any IT experience or degree. I am currently doing CT/MRI program. I was planning on either going to PACS or Ultrasound.

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

what is the typical salary for pacs administrator?

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

what is the typical salary range for pacs admin?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Newark, Delaware said: what is the typical salary for pacs administrator?

Depends on where you work. Some are hourly and usualy will start at about $25/hr, which is significantly better than that of an x ray tech. Some will be salaried and they start at about 50K a year. The high end can be close to 6 figures.

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

For a Nuclear Medicine Technologist, Is it worth it to get a 2 year degree in IT and get into PACS, does the field look promising for is Health Informatics field a safe bet?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Newark, Delaware said: For a Nuclear Medicine Technologist, Is it worth it to get a 2 year degree in IT and get into PACS, does the field look promising for is Health Informatics field a safe bet?

Yes it is worth it.

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anishp403 in Wilmington, Delaware

42 months ago

It will be good to get extra IT education for pacs but salary for RT specialized in CT and MRI is better than PACS.

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anishp403 in Wilmington, Delaware

42 months ago

It would be good to get extra education in IT and pace but is salary better for RT specialized in CT and MRI.

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Wilmington, Delaware said: It will be good to get extra IT education for pacs but salary for RT specialized in CT and MRI is better than PACS.

starting salary for PACS is in the range of $50K - $60K, that is without much experience. With experience that number goes up drastically. The avg. salary is around $70K.

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anishp403 in Newark, Delaware

42 months ago

PACS is a nice field to get into. But all of the jobs are asking for minimum 5 years of experience along with IT degree. How can anyone get a job in this field without experience?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Newark, Delaware said: PACS is a nice field to get into. But all of the jobs are asking for minimum 5 years of experience along with IT degree. How can anyone get a job in this field without experience?

Get a degree in IT, which is what I did. The world is wide open for me now.

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anishp403 in Toms River, New Jersey

42 months ago

Would you recommend passing on CT and MRI and going for the PACS?

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Toms River, New Jersey said: Would you recommend passing on CT and MRI and going for the PACS?

Yes. An IT degree combined with you're ARRT makes you a much more attractive candidate than if you were to have the ARRT and CT/MRI.

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anishp403 in Toms River, New Jersey

42 months ago

Let's say I get a degree in MIS how can I get foot in door of PACS, with every jobs in PACS requires 5 years of experience. Doesn't seem reasonable and it's very niche. There are no training program in the U.S. for PACS expect for clarkson college offering externship. Most of the people in PACS have years of experience in IT which would useless for me since I have none what so ever. I would much rather wait until there is a formal program for Imaging Informatics.

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

42 months ago

anishp403 in Toms River, New Jersey said: Let's say I get a degree in MIS how can I get foot in door of PACS, with every jobs in PACS requires 5 years of experience. Doesn't seem reasonable and it's very niche. There are no training program in the U.S. for PACS expect for clarkson college offering externship. Most of the people in PACS have years of experience in IT which would useless for me since I have none what so ever. I would much rather wait until there is a formal program for Imaging Informatics.

They don't all require 5yrs experience in PACS. If I were you, after you get your degree in MIS, I'd go ahead and apply for jobs in PACS even if you don't believe you are qualified, according to the job description. The majority of IT jobs ask for qualifications that very few applicants would meet. What would work to your advantage, over a lot of other candidates, is the fact that you have your ARRT. I had my first, and only experience in PACS, with zero experience. Most computer people have little to no experience dealing with medical people. So even though you'd need some OJT with PACS, a strictly IT person would need OJT with the medical aspects of the job.

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Layla in San Antonio, Texas

41 months ago

Is health informatics the same as health information technology?

Layla

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Catherina Martin in Houston, Texas

41 months ago

Well, I know that it's too late to reply this thread. But It may help others to get the required information. I gone through a link www.bls.gov/oco/ocos105.htm that contains very useful information about Radiologic Technologists and Technicians. Please check it out, you may find your answers.

Thank You

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Catherina Martin in Houston, Texas

41 months ago

damon in Baltimore, Maryland said: hi i am in school for radiography and in my speech class i have to interview someone that is already working in my major but i do not know anyone and i was wondering if i can interview someone i have 2o questions you can email the answers back to me at poppop21214@yahoo.com thank you
1. How did you decide to enter this field?
2. What kind of education and training did you have?
3. What personal qualities are important for an individual considering this field?
4. What do you wish you had known before entering this field?
5. What kinds of preparation do you wish you had?
6. What are your typical duties and responsibilities?
7. What do you like best and find most rewarding?
8. What do you like least and find most frustrating?
9. How is your time divided between people, data and things?
10. What are some of the positive and negative aspects of working in this field?
11. How much influence do you have over decisions that affect you?
12. What additional training and qualifications are necessary for advancement?
13. Do people typically get promoted from within or do they move on to another company in order to advance?
14. What is turnover like in this company/field?
15. What types of training or professional development is offered at your company?
...

Well, I know that it's too late to reply this thread. But It may help others to get the required information. I gone through a link www.bls.gov/oco/ocos105.htm that contains very useful information about Radiologic Technologists and Technicians. Please check it out, you may find your answers.

Thank You

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

41 months ago

Layla in San Antonio, Texas said: Is health informatics the same as health information technology?

Layla

No, they are not the same thing, not even close. Health Informatics has to do more with medical coding. Health Information Technology is a specializatioin for people who work in IT.

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Drones in Omaha, Nebraska

41 months ago

Catherina Martin in Houston, Texas said: Well, I know that it's too late to reply this thread. But It may help others to get the required information. I gone through a link www.bls.gov/oco/ocos105.htm that contains very useful information about Radiologic Technologists and Technicians. Please check it out, you may find your answers.

Thank You

The information in that link is neither useful nor accurate.

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