Why is Xray tech and Medical assisting lumped together in job ads?

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Lynn Bellus in Ahwahnee, California

82 months ago

Are these all small offices or something?

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no scams in Herndon, Virginia

78 months ago

I would think it is a place that has no clue. It is most likely a disaster trying to work there for the poor pay etc.
If they do not even know we are Radiology Technologist they are very ignorant. Although it could be they are truly looking for a xray tech which is a person that runs films, transfers patients, gets coffee, But has no education as a RT and SHOULD NOT BE DOING PROCEDURES OR EXAMS!

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Butters in Elk Grove Village, Illinois

77 months ago

Well, it doesn't hurt to expand in your skills, having some MA experience makes you more marketable, and therefore more valuable, this is especially if you are already an RT(R) looking to expand ones skills. It never hurts to learn something new. I don't believe MA's just transfers patients or get coffee, or do other menial tasks that would put them beneath an RT(R). I believe they do more than that, otherwise, why would such a position exist?

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rtr in Dumont, New Jersey

77 months ago

I worked today with an x ray technician/MA. She's not registered but she's very good what she does. She told me she's not registered and not really going to go back to become a full pledged x ray tech due to her age. She's near retirement really. She's very good what she does really but she's been in the office I was at for a long time. The doctor who owns the clinic is very nice and very well educated. It is one of the fewest small clinics that actually has a very nice x ray unit, believe me it was! He was a hand specialist so he needs really good films. Of course they only do hands, wrists, forearm and elbow exams but she was very professional and articulate in the field. She could have been a very good x ray tech esp with her experience but I still don't recommend limited x ray schools. She did everything for the office. She assess the patient, schedule the patient for surgery, take x rays, and etc. The doctor very respectfully acknowledge and respect the technician there and the workers who work there and me included who is ARRT registered. I only work there when the technician is on vacation or absent. I work other places btw. So don't think those technicians only get coffee or make crappy films either but it depends on the professionalism of the doctor if he/she is willing to really care for the patients really. Either way, I learn something new. I still don't recommend limited x ray schools esp nowadays but maybe in the past because as she said there were a lot of jobs and there was a good quality of education in limited x ray school and x ray school itself, it's just unfortunate things change and wish there were more doctors like the one I had to work for today, Dr. Chan really good guy in Bedminster, NJ as well the tech and the staff there.

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Debbie Street in Seattle, Washington

75 months ago

The last comment from New Jersey was very interesting. It seems to me that the states differ on the laws. In her example being registered would not work, maybe have the doctor exempt her. Out here in Washington the MA's CAN PERFORM the xrays in offices. I have seem it with my own eyes. I assist my husband with his own business at a clinic doing ultrasound. I saw an xray up on a viewbox and cretiqued it right away. ALot of things were very wrong on it. It was just an ankle, dark, not- positioned-correctly, film. I bumped into the MA and asked her a ton of questions which she didn't know, of course. I did not offer to help since I was not on the payroll, but WAS so tempted to. It is the enforcement of the laws our here that made me so furious. I will not ever go to a small clinic for care because of that. WHO knows who is taking a good xray. Oh, it is just a "button pushing" type job. That infiorates me too. Looking for work is a challenge wherever you live. Altho,I did convience my hometown hosptital's chief to create a job position for me. Good luck to you out there. I 've been there. Right now, I am homeschooling our youngest and he graduates next year! Then,I will be looking for a job.It has been five years since I took an xray. So, I do not know how I can find one at my age, too. Us baby boomers have the age card agaisnt us. I just connot see me not working yet. Is there anyone else in this position?

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alicia

70 months ago

Many Medical Assistant schools are two years, and result in an associates degree.

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Debbie Street in Seattle, Washington

70 months ago

I disagree about the asccociate degree. It takes ALot of practice to attain the skills to perform xrays and two years is ONLY a certifate level. I do not agree with the last post that MA have associate degrees... Then, why are they allowed to perform a skill that requires two years to master??? I witnessed with my own eyes and ears what A MA did to a patient without knowing how to correct and xray mistake. I asked that MA what distance did she use or what KV it was taken at. Of course, MA's do not know what xray techs know. I ,myself am studing to become a LPN to just WORK in a office to use my xray. WHAT A SHAME. I do not LIKE the fact that MA and LPN are taking over our jobs. That is why our job was invented in the first place. Nurses use to take xrays until the doctors saw that it takes more skill and knowledge. People do not know what it means to xray a patient. Why do one has to go for two full years to learn it? Washington state is not a good place to work unless you like ER, Moblies or just like the stress of hospital work. Yes, I may replace two people, but I want to be trained for the job I do. I think Xray techs could do MA work in a heartbeat, if they were trained like we were. That is only fair. But it isn't in this state. Good luck in New Jersey.....

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Gabriella in Louisville, Kentucky

65 months ago

In the Kentucky/Indiana area, there are jobs for MA's with Xray. These are limited certificates that these people hold. They're not RT's at all. HOWEVER, the smaller facilities want them, not RT's, because they are also trained to take vitals and man the office. In other words, they hire people to do the jobs of three at a lower salary.

GRRRR!!!!

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Debbie in Seattle, Washington

65 months ago

Gabrilla, Are you an Registered Technologist? I am for many years and have kept up the lisence, but finding it more and more difficult to even get in to a clinic setting. In California they are quite seperate and only xray technolgoists do the exams. IT really gets my goat, too to see people UNDER qualified doing things. Look at the extra radiation, expense, and time it takes for repeats! I say Xray technologists UNITE. ALOT of people have lost their jobs just because of this. It SHOULD be against the law. The representative of the AART of Washington is doing all she can. But the stories still exist of REALY people. SO, I'm getting cross- trained. Hopefully, Even as a CNA,(prerequist for LPN) Can land me a job until then. Good luck in Kentucky.

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b.shells in Gurnee, Illinois

55 months ago

I WOEKED AS AN X-RAY TECH FOR 3 YEARS IN THE MILITARY AND 1 YEAR WTTH THE V.A. THAT WAS 20 years ago. I WAS NOT REGISTERED. I CHANGED CAREER FIELDS AND GOT INTO AVIATION. I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK INTO THE RADIOLOGY FIELD AS AN X-RAY TECH WHAT SHOULD BE MY COURSE OF ACTION.

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taurus20red in Decatur, Georgia

55 months ago

Well since you were never registered in the 1st place, I recommend that you go to an accredited radiology school for 2 yrs so you can become a ARRT registered technologist. But good luck with finding an x-ray tech job because the market is too flooded right now. Now is not a good time to get back into this field.

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FRS IN SURPRISE,AZ.

53 months ago

taurus20red i would like to say it might seen this way now but this profession works in waves,one moment their are no jobs then everybody needs you. if b.shells can maintain a living and go to school then b.shells should do so and get this out of the way. be prepared for what ever comes your way. i have been a registered radiologic technologist for 22 yrs and proud of it for the sake of patient care.

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JayD in Miami, Florida

40 months ago

The Rad Tech career means nothing anymore. If you are one of the lucky ones to work at a hospital or center where you get to perform all the advanced exams like fluoro, IVU, Hysteros on top of the routine x-rays then lucky you. Otherwise you're stuck in a office getting paid a misery and doing almost nothing related to what you studied. I am an RT(R) ARRT registered and those credentials mean nothing to anyone else but me. I have a job as a x-ray tech/MA but I am not referred to as the x-ray tech but as the "MA", the one who, besides drawing blood, getting vitals and history and assisting the doctor with procedures, also sweeps, mops and takes out the trash. And paid as an MA as well. Well maybe a bit above but not what a Tech should get paid. I am definitely still working there for the experience, but as soon as I see an opportunity I will get out and not look back. RT's didn't study for this, I certainly didn't. We are not appreciated anymore, we even need continuing education credits every 2 yrs that would seem like RT's are a big thing yet you have MA's taking x-rays, physician assistants, even the managers who have no education in the field. I've seen this. All they have is an x-ray book with the positions, they copy exactly whats in the picture, use the technique on the chart and there you have it, a crappy x-ray. Who ever decided that having a basic x-ray state license and not needing to be ARRT registered is a real a-hole. Thanks for leaving many RT's jobless just to pay someone else less.

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jennmoni in Montclair, New Jersey

40 months ago

I know your pain all too well. But before you get down on yourself and severly burntout, try to turn this negative into a positive, Hence the term if you cant beat them join them. Like you I had to work in a clinic where I was unappriciated as an X-ray Tech and made to do other job fucntions that had nothing to do with my education, like MA work and trash disposal. It was truely the worst job I ever had. However, I prayed for a solution and came up with taking my newly found skills and becoming a Nurse. I know you went to school to do xray,but trust me if you are intelligent enough to complete X-ray you can do nursing and it isnt a whole lot of difference from what you are already doing in that office. If its an option for you to return to school,combine your Nursing with your X-ray to become a Radiology Nurse and you will not only feel more personally fulfilled but having both skills will open more doors career wise and financially.

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jayd in Homestead, Florida

40 months ago

jennmoni in Montclair, New Jersey said: I know your pain all too well. But before you get down on yourself and severly burntout, try to turn this negative into a positive, Hence the term if you cant beat them join them. Like you I had to work in a clinic where I was unappriciated as an X-ray Tech and made to do other job fucntions that had nothing to do with my education, like MA work and trash disposal. It was truely the worst job I ever had. However, I prayed for a solution and came up with taking my newly found skills and becoming a Nurse. I know you went to school to do xray,but trust me if you are intelligent enough to complete X-ray you can do nursing and it isnt a whole lot of difference from what you are already doing in that office. If its an option for you to return to school,combine your Nursing with your X-ray to become a Radiology Nurse and you will not only feel more personally fulfilled but having both skills will open more doors career wise and financially.

This is true. And I have thought about nursing, what holds me back is still having a considerable debt on the x-ray program which has done me no good and the need to work. But nursing is definitely worth it and I don't discard it at all.

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jennmoni in New York, New York

40 months ago

Have u considered trying an lpn program. They tend go cheaper and take less time than rn programs. Plus it will make things less competitive When u r ready to become an rn and apply for school u will Have a better chance to get in given your lpn status.

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Debbie Street in Redmond, Washington

40 months ago

YES! to Jay D in Miami!I have seen with my own two eyes how a MA took an extremity x-ray with the film in the table! I asked her how far was the distance to the table. She looked at me as if "I" were from Mars. GEESH. I am back in school to become a Radiology Nurse and just accepted into a two year Associate degree program. IT IS very competitive with grades, experience, GPA, and nursing entrance test.BUT the Community College that I am attending gives credit to work experience and past education. SO my hospital based program gave me a couple extra points to getting into the RN program. It is difficult with they younger generation who do not have any experience or past education. I feel honored and privileged to be accepted and another chance in the medical profession that they can not take away. ALSO in the state in Washington ALL Registered Nurses have to have a four-year degree by the year 2012. IF you live in California, ALL RTs have to be credentialed and only RTs take x-rays. I could always move there. I did live in Florida for three years and worked as an x-ray tech, but did menial jobs in the office. It felt so belittling. Technology has stepped in except for jobs in the hospital, but some of us had years of that. I ended in up in Mobile work until the nursing homes shut down. Go with the flow. It isn't always fair, but we can do it if we try. It is in the heart, so I know they can not take that away!

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seven in Cleveland, Ohio

40 months ago

Debbie Street in Seattle, Washington said: I disagree about the asccociate degree. It takes ALot of practice to attain the skills to perform xrays and two years is ONLY a certifate level. I do not agree with the last post that MA have associate degrees... Then, why are they allowed to perform a skill that requires two years to master??? I witnessed with my own eyes and ears what A MA did to a patient without knowing how to correct and xray mistake. I asked that MA what distance did she use or what KV it was taken at. Of course, MA's do not know what xray techs know. I ,myself am studing to become a LPN to just WORK in a office to use my xray. WHAT A SHAME. I do not LIKE the fact that MA and LPN are taking over our jobs. That is why our job was invented in the first place. Nurses use to take xrays until the doctors saw that it takes more skill and knowledge. People do not know what it means to xray a patient. Why do one has to go for two full years to learn it? Washington state is not a good place to work unless you like ER, Moblies or just like the stress of hospital work. Yes, I may replace two people, but I want to be trained for the job I do. I think Xray techs could do MA work in a heartbeat, if they were trained like we were. That is only fair. But it isn't in this state. Good luck in New Jersey.....

You do not know what your talking about. Someoen can become a Certified MA in One year. Or you can continue to get an associates in two if you Want. Bt you dont have to.

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Debbie Street in Redmond, Washington

40 months ago

seven in Cleveland, Ohio said: You do not know what your talking about. Someoen can become a Certified MA in One year. Or you can continue to get an associates in two if you Want. Bt you dont have to.

I agree with you Seven in Cleveland, but was commenting on the post from Alicia 30 mo ago. Try living in Washington State ( we always have to say state because everyone thinks it is D.C.).. LPN programs are shutting down in the college. Only MAs, CNAs and RNs will be running the show. we get alot of foreirngers that have a strong accent and do not know how to speak English very well. These are going to be our grunt workers of the future. I can not even understand them. maybe not in Ohio, but it is common here.Living and working in Californina is the place to be for Radiological Technologists! But eveyone know us as x-ray techs.

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well trained in Merritt Island, Florida

39 months ago

I do not mean to be ugly, but the first problem is the fact that you "work with your husband." I have turned down positions due to the fact that a wife or girlfriend worked or came in occasionally to do the books because I have learned that this only leads to personnel problems. If the couple is fighting or there is a problem in the office the spouse always seems to feel that she has the right to overstep her bounds. You did so by asking the MA "several questions she could not answer"; it is not your position to do so, it is your husband's, he is the boss. Also, you have so many spelling and typing errors in your comment that it is difficult to take you seriously. You say you are homeschooling your child, yet the grammar, punctuation, and spelling that you use is not correct, so I am not sure you have done him any favors. If your husband is happy with the performance of his employees, then you need to stay out of it. Just food for thought.

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Debbie Street in Redmond, Washington

39 months ago

You may have categorize me into a position that is not very common. There are factors that you do not know about. AS Health Care PROFESSIONALS we, (my husband and I), know what it means to be professional with only 25 years experience. We take are roles seriously. I am offended that another health care "professional" would even bring this up. ASK any nurse or doctor at the clinic we work at that we are too busy to even think otherwise. I do not communicate,fight, or argue during the ultrasound procedure.I know what to do and what NOT to do. It is sticky business at all times. Chaperoning ALL ultrasound procedures will soon be required. News for you, I have been accepted into an RN Nursing program and will be replaced. I am to train the next assistant who will work along side of my husband. I will train her everything I know because of the unique position.This person does not have to be an MA or Radiological Technologist, but a person with high Medical Ethics. By the way, the MA asked me for help. I did not- only by inquiring how she performed the procedure. My homeschooler graduated with straight A's and is now at a prestigious four year college. Practice what you preach and stay out of it.

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x rah in Brooklyn, New York

38 months ago

"x-rays..just taking pictures and pushing buttons, anyone can do that" quoted by staff in hospital

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Debbie Street in Redmond, Washington

38 months ago

Ok.Xrah in Brooklyn, Let "Anyone" do mobiles is nursing homes or in surgery? How about complete body of a toddler from ER that just died from abuse? Or the Radiologist asks for a specific view during or after a study was shown? Tell, me do All people understand medical ethics? Would "anyone" NOT accept one-hundred dollars to tell them the results of the test? OR how to obtain an abdomen series with a screaming patient with a kidney stone? Or to make an ER patient hold still when they have a bullet in their buttocks? OR that people or not "things" to take pictures of, but are people that suffering and sick and worried with feelings that deserve respect? IT use to be that the equipment was set up that patients were measured to determine the amount of x-rays to produce, manually. NOW, it is all automatic that has a high amount given which automatically shuts off after it hits the sensor. Photo-timing is great, but has taken all the head-work and math out of it. Positioning is even more important because of Photo-timing. Who ever said that statement does not understand ALL the challenges of the Radiologic Technology profession.

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KirstenMilo in Salem, Oregon

32 months ago

x rah in Brooklyn, New York said: "x-rays..just taking pictures and pushing buttons, anyone can do that" quoted by staff in hospital

This is extremely scary! That comment about button pushing reveals the ignorance of the person speaking.

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KirstenMilo in Salem, Oregon

32 months ago

Debbie Street: GAME SET MATCH!!! :-) Touche!

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Debbie Street in Redmond, Washington

32 months ago

Thanks. Son got four "A's" and 2 "B's" in a private, expensive college so far. SO proud of him. We use initials after our names by RT and we are NOT Respiratory Therapists ...we are Radiological Technologists. If you read the history we were call Xray Technicians from 1932 to 1964. And ASRT used to be ASXT ( American Society of Xray Technicians) Geesh. No wonder people get confused about us....

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taylor

26 months ago

Only a select few states do not have licensure for xray techs to be registered, such as Alabama. It has been widely debated and voted on but doctors get majority of votes and doctors are going to choose to "train" MA's to take xrays and pay way less than a registered radiologic technoloGIST. Xray school is just as hard to get into as nursing school and they do not make much less than nurses. They also have many opportunities to learn specialty fields and make more money (CT, MRI, MAMMO, CATH LAB, RADIATION THERAPY, NUCLEAR MED, ULTRASOUND, ECT). MA's know basic positioning and know no physics. Also, radiation exposure is a big deal. Whenever you have an xray done by a MA, make sure that they shield you! A registered tech can tell you what dose of exposure you could get from a certain xray and they know how to adjust technical factors to keep that dose as low as reasonably achievable. If you know what you are doing than you know that there is a lot more to it than pushing a button. We are also technologists, not technicians. Technicians work on machines and build things. We are professionals working to ensure that our patient is protected from unnecessary radiation and that we provide the best image for the doctor. Just another bit of info, using the wrong exposure factors can make things disappear! Things like..... Tumors! Your best bet when getting xrays done is to go somewhere where the technologist are registered.

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XrayTech4Life in New Hyde Park, New York

24 days ago

Anyone who says "well its better to get more experience to learn what the MA does also" ! Such Balony...Those are the same techs that degrade this field. I dont know how many countless clinics ive went to and just laughed in their face when they told me I have to stuff outside of being an Xray tech. I would def not question it if they paid me more but its just sad how xray techs in this field degrade most of us hard working professionals....Just because you cant find work doesn't mean you should put your license in line and go to a clinic and take xrays while at the same time take out the garbage and mop floors.

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lola17843 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

6 days ago

XrayTech4Life in New Hyde Park, New York said: Anyone who says "well its better to get more experience to learn what the MA does also" ! Such Balony...Those are the same techs that degrade this field. I dont know how many countless clinics ive went to and just laughed in their face when they told me I have to stuff outside of being an Xray tech. I would def not question it if they paid me more but its just sad how xray techs in this field degrade most of us hard working professionals....Just because you cant find work doesn't mean you should put your license in line and go to a clinic and take xrays while at the same time take out the garbage and mop floors.

Well I'm sorry that you feel that taking on a MA/x-ray tech job is degrading the field, but I haven't been able to find anything since finishing school months ago. Bills are piling up and soon those student loans will be arriving. Maybe everyone doesn't have it so great in life such as you do and can go around laughing in employers faces. I'm proud of my education and the opportunity to be a MA/x-ray tech. This will get my foot in the door to better opportunities. Hopefully the tide doesn't change on you and you have to crawl back to those places you turned your nose up at.

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