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KC in Spokane, Washington

14 months ago

momto10cats in Huntersville, North Carolina said: The Career Step program is not an easy one. You really have to work hard and study. It was worth it, though. I know I got the initial interview with the company I work for partly because I was a Career Step honor grad. I would definitely pursue CS as the school to go to, but you have to be very serious about it. After you graduate, you also have to be deligent about finding a job. It's not easy. Entry level jobs are very hard to come by. A big part of actually finding a job is applying at the right time. In other words, A company may not have an entry level opening when you apply on Monday. Then on Tuesday, they do...and the person who applies on Tuesday will be the one who gets the interview. Just remember, after you test/apply, send a followup letter about 10 days later. I applied to over 100 (yes, 100!!) companies. Most of them didn't even respond back to me. Probably because they get 100s of applications a day. You just have to keep a positive attitude and know that the right job is out there. I didn't accept alot of job offers because they weren't the right fit for me...but when the right one came along, I jumped on it. If anyone has any questions about Career Step, please email me at lindasanmt@catpeoplerule.com

Hi, I tried emailing you but couldn't get through. As far as their job placement program goes, I keep hearing it is not that great - however I am not real concerned as I have 5 years of medical billing experience. I'd like to be a medical coder. However I want to know if there's any resume/cv writing help that is available after you're certified or complete the program?

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

14 months ago

Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois said: KC,

Yes, Career Step offers post graduation assistance including a one on one consultation with a career advisor and individual review of your resume and cover letter, as well as other tutorials and training to prepare you for interviews. You have access to the graduate help hotline for a year. In addition, the cost of tuition includes a voucher for a medical coding exam (up to a $325 value).
Your years of medical billing experience will definitely give you a leg up when applying for jobs and transitioning to a medical coding position is a great step up as far as salary and career path.
referral.careerstep.com/mc?ref=36530

We get a lot of Career Step students that join our Association and are really not fully prepared. As far as job placement, I can't comment only to say that those that do join us are looking for jobs and don't possess the qualifications most certification exams require to pass.

Linda Walker
PMRNC
Practice Managers Resource & Networking Community
www.billerswebsite.com
Medical Billing Resources, Education, Certifications & Networking

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paul59 in Springfield, Illinois

13 months ago

I am going through the program at this time. Having worked my way up to the beginning casework of the Practicum I have reservations about recommending this program to anyone. Bear in mind that I have previously finished a BA degree by independent study but had access to instructor support at any time. With CS I have yet to have any instructor-led discussion or webinar. A daily chat stream (weekday mornings only) seems to fulfill their desire to interact with their students. While there is the ability to email an instructor the feedback from said teachers is far from prompt according to those who've done this. If I were starting this process all over I would definitely look for a classroom environment of some type that actually teaches this material. I understand that CS works in conjunction with a number of community colleges across the U.S. That is the only way I would consider CS or sending someone to this school. Unlike others on this thread I am in no way getting any kind of referral bonus to send people to CS.

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marci521 in Austin, Texas

13 months ago

momto10cats in Huntersville, North Carolina said: I graduated from Career Step in January, and after testing/applying to over 100 companies, I got a job! Career Step was a great school/course. My only problem was that they advertise that they will help/assist in finding employment, but they did not! I found my job on my own...and I paid the extra to be a platinum student for that benefit alone. Career Step is NOT strictly on a cash basis. You can pay with credit , check, or pay installments. Also, I applied for a scholarship and received one. They do not accept Pell Grants. I bought the books, and they have come in handy while working at my job. Don't get me wrong...the school is a great way to learn MT. I feel I am a better MT for having gone through their course. They just shouldn't advertise that they will help you in job placement...and finding a job as a newbee is very hard. You just have to keep applying and testing. Eventually, the right job will come along. RIGHT PLACE/RIGHT TIME!!

Hi, I was currently looking at the career step MTE course and was wondering if you would still recommend the course? My background is in medical coding but I'm ready for something different. I was also a court reporter many years ago and enjoyed editing transcripts so I think I would enjoy editing medical transcripts. The course includes speech recognition editing with MModal software now. They say if you pass with honors, that MModal will interview you and consider you for a job. I was also wondering if the pay was as low as I see some MT's say these days? I'm not looking to get rich, just a job to cover bills. I have a son with a hearing impairment and working from home would be amazing for my family. Any advice would be great!!! You can email me marcia521@hotmail.com

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Janice R in Normal, Illinois

13 months ago

Barb, are you employed by Career Step? You seem to be their biggest cheerleader.

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

13 months ago

Not an employee, just a satisfied customer who is concerned about some of the misinformation I sometimes see. I do have a friend at work who tried a cheap online program that doesn't even exist anymore, wasted her time and money, soured her on internet courses, before going to her community college for her certification class. I post the facts about Career Step it's been around a long time and isn't some fly-by-night scam. If someone wants or needs the convenience of training at home, I want to make sure they choose a program that will actually deliver.
Yes, that is an affiliate link I post, (I don't make any attempt to hide that, it says "referral" in the link, they give anyone who enrolls a referral link to share). I've had a couple small pleasant surprises in the mail because someone actually enrolled through my link, but it is by no means a source of income!
referral.careerstep.com/ref36530

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pamrobertson59@*****.*** in North Little Rock, Arkansas

13 months ago

Kristen in Temecula, California said: Hello,

I am interested in any commentary on Career Step from graduates. Were you well prepared? I was just reviewing comments in another well known forum who did not have great things to say. THis was the first time I have read anything bad about CS...before I shell out money for training, I want to make sure I am not blind sided.

Any opinions are welcome.

Thanks!

I enrolled in Career Step's Medical Coding program 08/11/16. I had been a RN for 15 years, and had a BS degree in biology. After 10 years of retail and restaurant work I wanted to get back into the medical field. I took and passed my final exam in May, and now am preparing to get certified. This program allowed me to study at my pace and allowed me to work at home as I took care of my elderly father. I had hoped to complete the course in 4 months, but realized that speeding through the content was counterproductive. The course was more difficult than anticipated, but now I am very proud of my accomplishment.The need for coders is great, and there are many different career paths available. The staff at Career Step is very supportive and I could not be more pleased with my decision to enroll with them. Good luck!

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

12 months ago

Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois said: Not an employee, just a satisfied customer who is concerned about some of the misinformation I sometimes see. I do have a friend at work who tried a cheap online program that doesn't even exist anymore, wasted her time and money, soured her on internet courses, before going to her community college for her certification class. I post the facts about Career Step it's been around a long time and isn't some fly-by-night scam. If someone wants or needs the convenience of training at home, I want to make sure they choose a program that will actually deliver.
Yes, that is an affiliate link I post, (I don't make any attempt to hide that, it says "referral" in the link, they give anyone who enrolls a referral link to share). I've had a couple small pleasant surprises in the mail because someone actually enrolled through my link, but it is by no means a source of income!
referral.careerstep.com/ref36530

By surprises you mean "BONUS payout's" or "commissions"...??? Because that's what the website says about their "affiliate" program. legacy.careerstep.com/promote

Nothing wrong with posting links, but be a bit more honest about them.

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

12 months ago

PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York said: By surprises you mean "BONUS payout's" or "commissions"...??? Because that's what the website says about their "affiliate" program. legacy.careerstep.com/promote

Nothing wrong with posting links, but be a bit more honest about them.

I said "surprise" because its not any kind of regular income so if a referral bonus comes in, it's a "surprise". Like I said before, the link I add says "referral" in it. I think most of America understands how referral links work. I'm happy to inform people about Career Step with or without the referral bonus; it is nice if someone clicks through the link but not expected. Not trying to hide anything or trick anyone, the referral link is given to students, so it is for people who want to share their experience, they don't just give it out to random people to promote Career Step who haven't used the program.

My main motivation in informing people about Career Step is that I was very happy with their program and don't want people to end up like my friend at work who wasted time and money on a "scammy" program that didn't prepare her for the certification exams.
Unfortunately, there is no official accreditation for medical coding programs so it can be hard for people to choose the right one. Career Step is on AHIMA's list of approved programs and has been educating medical office professionals for over 20 years.
referral.careerstep.com/mc?ref=36530

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primo in Richmond, Texas

12 months ago

PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York said: By surprises you mean "BONUS payout's" or "commissions"...??? Because that's what the website says about their "affiliate" program. legacy.careerstep.com/promote

Nothing wrong with posting links, but be a bit more honest about them.

I have been an affiliate for years. Maybe got one check? Here is what I can tell you about the program. It will get you as ready as it can. Not an easy field to jump into. You are learning basically a new language and a new skill (listening ear). I got a job and worked about 4 years doing it, but it was hard work for not a lot of pay. Right now there is something going on with Nuances software from hacking and I guess there is a lot of straight typing, but no shortcuts. I went back to Real Estate when the market rebounded, but the school is well recognized and it prepares you as much as it can. You work from home, but it is not an easy job. My hands used to throb for about 22 to 27K a year.

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Jan in Blair, Nebraska

11 months ago

april64 said: They told me I can complete the course in 4 months for a Coder...Is this realistic..

NO.

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jonilikens in Pineville, Louisiana

11 months ago

I am trying to decide if I want to take medical transcription , or medical coding. I will admit that I am afraid "computers" will be taking over these jobs; and so I am leary! I would not mind part-time, and not mind working out of the home, at first. I am 57, tho and really want something I could do at home. I am changing careers, and can not afford to waste money on a course that I cant get a job for after. Can anyone give me any hints. Is it realistic for me to do this? I hope so. Thanks.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

11 months ago

Please do not waste your time or money going for a MT career. I have research this and was considering this myself. I have talked with people who work in this field and they will tell you the same thing. It's a outdated career that has been replaced with overseas workers, that is if anyone is still using a MT. The pay is horrible and the jobs you get are far and few on top of it meaning you have no study income. Any school worth it's weight will not offer this because they know their are no jobs and the pay is pennies per line. I then decided to check out career step and their medical coding and was sold. I signed up and got into the program and ran into problems with little help. I was lost as there isn't much guidance or help like the kind you need. That was money wasted. I decided to go back to school and become a medical assistant and just graduated after two years of schooling. I would go back to school, an actual building with instructors, if your going to try out medical coding because it is very complicated. We had to learn it in the MA program i took and did much better with onsite instructors...still it was difficult but doable. I liked career step and how everything is set up, but for something like coding you really need more guidance then what was provided to understand it. That being said many have taken the program and graduated, so it's doable, but i would not recommend it. Alot of these people already had a foundation and working knowledge of the field but for someone who doesn't your in for a rude awaking once you get into the program. Then your stuck owing money regardless. CS does offer a MT program, but read the forums and you will hear the same sad story again and again, can't find a job, pay is horrible and so forth. Then you have ones on there that claim it changed their life, i personally don't believe they were real students uhmm! Take what i say or leave it, just my two cents and my experiences

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jonilikens in Pineville, Louisiana

11 months ago

Thankyou for your quick reply. In your reply, you said that I would be lost in medical coding unless I had something previously. I was a respiratory therapist for 25 yrs., so some of it I would already know, like medical terminology, and anatomy. I am 57 and need something quick. I was thinking maybe I could find someone to be an apprentice, for me. I was attracted to these, because of my background, and doing them in 4-12 months. The medical coding is more expensive. I am concerned, because it seems that a computer program could quickly do what a coder does, if the doctor transcribes into a computer. Maybe this sounds stupid, but if a doctor transcribes into a computer , could the computer do the same, that a transcriber does? Seems to me, they could. As far as the jobs going overseas, I believe our new president has bought some back, and will continue to. I don't know! I cant do respiratory therapy anymore, because of the damage to my feet. The health careers are good, but there is a quick burnout. So, I am at a loss. Thankyou, again.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

11 months ago

If you can get through career steps coding program you will be able to get a job working from home, more then likely from one of their contacts seeking out coders. Yes, most coding is done through a computer program but they still need someone who knows what they are doing to understand what the program is doing and you have to know how to imput the information, plus understanding how to code a doctor's, surgeon's services provided. Coders in demand isn't going anywhere for a long time and they are highly sought after. It pays so well because it's hard...you really have to know what your doing in that field and be dedicated. If your really set on doing a coding program from home i highly recommend career step then, but be aware you must be able to learn on your own with very little guidance or help and coding is complicated. I sought out many places and career step has all the crediting you want. They do allow you a trial period before you are committed but you really don't know what your getting into until you are further down the program. Most if not every person that makes it through that program finds employment at home through career step. If your really set on doing something from home, that is in high demand and pays very well go through career steps program. I would recommend going to a actual school where you have on sight instructors but i can see you really need and want something you can study from home. Forget about the MT your wasting your time with that...you need to be looking at coding if you want a at home job that is in demand and pays very well. I wanted to do coding so bad, but i just couldn't grasp it. Now that i have my MA i am thinking about going back to school to study coding and give it another shot. I am not in the best of health and having a at home job is very attractive. But i will have to go through a school with instructors like i did with my MA degree. I loved it when we covered it in our MA course requirements, but i struggled

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

11 months ago

what happens is companies who do coding for hospitals and doctor offices look for coders from home. They provide you with a computer and the programs you need. You work off of their computers and data base. They send you the medical records and you code them. You have to be able to read those documents and know how to code them and put it into a computer program. It sounds easy but it's not if you don't know what your doing and even after you know what your doing it takes time and experience to completely master it. All you folks out there looking into MT are missing the boat if you want a at home job that is in demand and pays well...coding is where it's at.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

11 months ago

Let me tell you how i ended up on this forum. Way back a couple years ago i was in the same boat looking for a at home job and MT seemed to be the way to go. So i subscribed to this forum but never unsubscribed for whatever reason as i never read it anyway. I just happened to read a notification today for whatever reason and saw this discussion so i decided i should take my experience and research and share it. That is the only reason why i am on this forum today. Like i said take what i say or leave it, but i hope those who read it do some research before jumping into a MT program.

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LadyDiana214 in Winnipeg, Manitoba

11 months ago

DeAna in North Vernon said it best....I went into one of these 'MT' courses from home thinking it was doable and while my marks were up there, the support was AWFUL, I spent more time correcting THEIR mistakes than them correcting mine and I sadly came to realize there would be NOTHING for me in this field from home once I was done the course. Over one year i only saw ONE ad for MT's in my city for out of home work and to work from home, the pay was AWFUL! You would think for as much knowledge as you need to do this job the pay would be much better, but as DeAna said, thanks to 'overseas' workers doing these kind of jobs for peanuts, that is what they are only willing to pay now. I think as time goes on and the mistakes made cost more and more, that may change....but for now, you are better off to take a course in a brick and mortar school. There is definitely demand in the medical field, but you can be sure you will have to leave your home to do it to make a decent living. Work from home is mostly minimum wage pay, if that. Been there. Done that.

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LadyDiana214 in Winnipeg, Manitoba

11 months ago

P.S. I also agree with DeAna about the medical coding being the field to go into. I sadly realized that a year too late! Also, I would HIGHLY recommend you take the course in a building where you have the support & help you need b/c if you do it from home, you are TRULY on your own!!! It may not be the best solution for you, BUT if you want your best chance to succeed at doing this, it really is the best way to go. Best of luck to you :)

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michelle78 in Chicago, Illinois

11 months ago

jonilikens in Pineville, Louisiana said: Thankyou for your quick reply. In your reply, you said that I would be lost in medical coding unless I had something previously. I was a respiratory therapist for 25 yrs...

Joni,
If you are looking to complete your training quickly, then you are probably more suited for online options, rather than waiting to go through a 2 year community college program. The training for MT is shorter, however, salaries and job prospects for medical coders are better.
You indicated that you already have a medical background, this is good because you can move through the anatomy and physiology, medical terminology, background curriculum more quickly than most.
Career Step's program is listed at taking 4-6 months to complete, that is if you can devote yourself to full-time study, but also if you have a medical background, you will be able to work through some parts of the material more easily than someone starting from scratch.
Just be careful with online programs because medical coding programs do not have an "official" accreditation process, there are some scammy programs out there that will waste your time and money. Career Step has been educating medical office professionals for over 25 years, is a name recognized by employers, and is one of the few completely online programs that are AHIMA approved. AHIMA is one of the two organizations that certify medical coders.
Keep an eye out, they will often have tuition incentives when you enroll by a certain date. Right now they have an awesome back to school special when you enroll by the end of the month with $600 off tuition. Here is a link to that offer:
referral.careerstep.com/mc?ref=36530

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paul59 in Springfield, Illinois

10 months ago

I have now completed the final and am awaiting my diploma. My thoughts expressed here are all the more true. If one is serious about the medical coding field please go to a classroom where an actual teacher can teach you this material. It is not easy by any means and made more difficult where there's a hands-off approach with regards to instructor involvement as it is with Career Step.

With my test results they were offering 30 minute time slots for a phone conference with an instructor to go over the final. Where was this earlier in the program? To anyone wondering if CS is a legit school or not I will say it is quite legit. But the execution in delivering course content is less than effective by a large degree. If one can simply read and digest complex course material well enough to retain it then you'll do fine. But if you're one who needs interactive lectures, webinars, classroom discussion, etc... this is not for you

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Gene in Loganville, Georgia

10 months ago

Hi, where did you apply for scholarship?

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Gene in Loganville, Georgia

10 months ago

Hi, so the IOD company are hiring medical billing/coders for $10 / hr & $15 if you pass their test???

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

10 months ago

paul59 in Springfield, Illinois said: I have now completed the final and am awaiting my diploma. My thoughts expressed here are all the more true. If one is serious about the medical coding field please go to a classroom where an actual teacher can teach you this material. It is not easy by any means and made more difficult where there's a hands-off approach with regards to instructor involvement as it is with Career Step.

With my test results they were offering 30 minute time slots for a phone conference with an instructor to go over the final. Where was this earlier in the program? To anyone wondering if CS is a legit school or not I will say it is quite legit. But the execution in delivering course content is less than effective by a large degree. If one can simply read and digest complex course material well enough to retain it then you'll do fine. But if you're one who needs interactive lectures, webinars, classroom discussion, etc... this is not for you

I tried to go through the medical coding at career step and please people listen to every word he says. His experience was the same as mine. I would offer the same advice word for word. I actually did over in the MT forum and encouraged people to not go that path but go for medical coding, but i did warn them about going through a online course, basically the same thing that this poster said. Career step is a legit school as he stated but..........everything else he said.

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pamrobertson59@*****.*** in North Little Rock, Arkansas

10 months ago

chalena in Oskaloosa, Iowa said: misty,

I have just started the MT course at CS and was wondering did you graduate with "high honors?"

I recently passed my Career Step final for medical coding and billing with a score of 90%, which allowed me to graduate with honors.

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Kimo in Poway, California

8 months ago

Well I'm reading all these reviews and at first had mixed feelings about CS. If you look at the reviews from months and months ago it didn't sound positive but the most recent posts do sound better. Someone mentioned applying for a scholarship? What is this? I'm trying to change careers so I can work at home as well. I'm trying to get out of bodily injury claims at an insurance company. Coding appears to be a good fit. Has anyone done this while being on unemployment? Did they extend your benefits while on the program? I'm talking in California. I'm not having luck finding a job in my field so I need a change of plan/stradigy. Stressed I won't find something in the end. Any thoughts are welcome! kdoll92064@gmail.com. Thx and best of luck to all!

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

8 months ago

Look it's a tough program to go through, been there done it with Cs. You have to have a really strong background in this field to get through the program. It's really a program that needs a on sight guidance. God knows we all want to work at home, how nice right? it's not that cut and dry. You really have to be a self learner without any guidance..and it's hard. I would not recommend anyone go through this course by online learning. At first it's self explanatory, but as you get further along it gets more and more difficult. You don't realize it until you are so far in there is no way out but pay the tuition...it's a death trap. There i said it..it's a death trap with no way out. Imagine the skull and bones on a cig pack....don't do it.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

8 months ago

and if you decide to go through with it, remember my words they will come back to haunt you.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

8 months ago

please people quit dreaming about working from home...your gonna get stuck in tuition and no degree because it's that hard. No interaction no real help..just a structured program that is impossible to complete without hands on help. If you do make it through the program your going to be put through vigorous test by the company that hires through them and you won't have the experience to pass their test levels..yes there are test levels many you must pass to get hired on. Been through the CS program..worse decision i ever made.

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

8 months ago

you guys do whatever the heck you wanna do, i have done my job in explaining why this is a bad choice. Medical coding is a good field, but not this way. CS is not the way to go nor is any online school. You need one on one guidance from a brick and mortor school. It's that complicated. If you gonna give it a go i would suggest CS, but i am telling you ..your gonna find yourself lost with no help...and then tuition payments on your shoulder.

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Kimo in Poway, California

8 months ago

DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana said: you guys do whatever the heck you wanna do, i have done my job in explaining why this is a bad choice. Medical coding is a good field, but not this way. CS is not the way to go nor is any online school. You need one on one guidance from a brick and mortor school. It's that complicated. If you gonna give it a go i would suggest CS, but i am telling you ..your gonna find yourself lost with no help...and then tuition payments on your shoulder.

So..... what has changed for you in two months? I read your prior posts earlier today and you were pretty positive about CS. Now not so much. I'm just curious. I do well taking classes on my own so I'm not stressed about that. Maybe it helps also from being in the work force for a while. I know what employers and schools want. And just doing a search on a few job sites it appears there are several job ads for coders, etc. That's a positive for this I would think.

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

8 months ago

Here is the truth. MOST that decide to go into medical billing and coding do so because they think they will just begin working from home. The truth is, you won't. IF you are looking for a way to work from home, start your own business after your training. Do not take any training courses thinking you will get a job working from home. It doesn't work that way. Coding and billing are different. CERTIFIED coders, in order to get a job still need to go through AAPC or AHIMA. So your course might PREPARE you for a coding certification, but you still have to go through one of those two to get your certification and let me tell you they are TOUGH certifications to achieve.

Think about this. A physician "Employing" a coder (or a biller) from home, saves ZERO money. They might as well put a blindfold on to HIPAA let alone gamble that the biller and/or coder is prepared if they have no experience. A medical billing and/or coding company CAN save a physician money, and a LOT of it. There are NO benefits for a physician to employ "remote" coders or billers. NONE. In fact they are at a higher risk.

These schools won't tell you this. And they will have you believing you'll be a certified coder and/or biller when the truth is you'll only receive a certificate of completion. Most practices want at least 2 years experience to even get in the door so many will need to start at entry level to gain experience.

This is just the truth. Take a look at some of the jobs offered and you'll see they want 2 years experience. Many of the "remote" jobs offered (LEGIT ones) will want about 5 years or more and that will only last until a medical billing company markets to them and shows them they are losing money by hiring remote employees.

Linda Walker
PMRNC - Practice Managers Resource & Networking Community
www.billerswebsite.com

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primo in Richmond, Texas

8 months ago

I have to get in on this. I did take the medical transcription through Career Step and it was very good at job placement and best that they could they prepared me for medical transcription. I got a job working at home, but at the top of my game I netted 22K a year. I went back to real estate. I took the coding course, but they are right it is very specific and overwhelming. Hard course to really excel at home school. I also found that at the time Career Step was not as connected in the Coding world as they are in the transcription world. So might want to check that out because while doing transcription they were highly recognized.

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

8 months ago

Transcription is pretty much dried up. Coding is MUCH harder to break into and billing is where it's much easier to gain employment. Medical offices always need billers but really do NOT need coders nor transcriptionist's. A medical biller who can do all three is VERY employable. :)

Linda Walker
PMRNC
www.billerswebsite.com

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jonilikens in Pineville, Louisiana

8 months ago

Hello, Iliveina small town, and I want to take either medical transcriptionist, or medical coding. I was a respiratory therapist for 25 years, and am now , afterretiring finding myself needing to go back towork. My question is, if I take a course, what happens if I cant find a job, to get experience? I want to work at home, but it seems they want you to have some experience at a company, before hiring you to work from home. So, what happens, if I cant get a job, at a company? Would I be "out of luck?" Thankyou, Joni

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

8 months ago

jonilikens in Pineville, Louisiana said: Hello, Iliveina small town, and I want to take either medical transcriptionist, or medical coding. I was a respiratory therapist for 25 years, and am now , afterretiring finding myself needing to go back towork. My question is, if I take a course, what happens if I cant find a job, to get experience? I want to work at home, but it seems they want you to have some experience at a company, before hiring you to work from home. So, what happens, if I cant get a job, at a company? Would I be "out of luck?" Thankyou, Joni

Yes, you absolutely will have trouble finding a job with no experience and may have to start entry level. It's even harder when you are looking for work at home. Doctors are NOT going to hire employees to work remotely as it does not save them any money and it is an increase in liability. Suggest NOT doing transcription as it's a dried up field, there is no real need for transcritpionists anymore. Billers are still in high demand but again, not directly out of a training course and certainly not remotely. Need to start off at entry level and be realistic. If a school is telling you otherwise, they are lying or they will have you work remotely for offshore companies which is trouble with a capital "T".

Linda Walker
PMRNC
www.billerswebsite.com

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

8 months ago

Kimo in Poway, California said: So..... what has changed for you in two months? I read your prior posts earlier today and you were pretty positive about CS. Now not so much. I'm just curious. I do well taking classes on my own so I'm not stressed about that. Maybe it helps also from being in the work force for a while. I know what employers and schools want. And just doing a search on a few job sites it appears there are several job ads for coders, etc. That's a positive for this I would think.

Kimo,

Career Step's program is ideal for someone who likes working on their own (i.e. liked working ahead in school, didn't like waiting for the rest of the class). The portal is very user-friendly, and you have access to instructors whenever you have questions. In addition, there is a very supportive student forum and another place you can get support is the Career Step Coders facebook group where students go to bounce questions off of one another if you want some more interaction.
As far as jobs go, definitely check what's available in your area. In general the Bureau of Labor and Statistics continues to project that Medical Coding jobs will grow faster than average.
I can't help you with our unemployment insurance question, but Career Step is currently offering a $400 tuition discount this month. They also offer payment plans. Military spouses can also use MyCAA funding to pay for Career Step programs. In addition, the tuition includes coding books, a year of graduate support and a voucher to take one certification exam from AHIMA or the AAPC.
Here's a link to that discount:
referral.careerstep.com/mc?ref=36530

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

8 months ago

primo in Richmond, Texas said: I have to get in on this. I did take the medical transcription through Career Step and it was very good at job placement and best that they could they prepared me for medical transcription. I got a job working at home, but at the top of my game I netted 22K a year. I went back to real estate. I took the coding course, but they are right it is very specific and overwhelming. Hard course to really excel at home school. I also found that at the time Career Step was not as connected in the Coding world as they are in the transcription world. So might want to check that out because while doing transcription they were highly recognized.

I have to disagree with you on this point. Career Step's program is well-known in the coding world and respected by employers. In fact, their curriculum was written by 2 top AHIMA consultants and is one of the few completely online programs to be AHIMA approved. (They ARE also well-known for MT, which is the original subject of this forum, it seems to have evolved more towards a coding discussion.) In general, Career Step has been around for over 25 years educating medical office professionals.
In regards to the MT program, it has been updated to be Medical Transcription Editing to keep up with changes in the industry. However, coders do make more money.
referral.careerstep.com/ref36530

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Kimo in Poway, California

8 months ago

Wow. Well ok. Great info. Positive and negative. @Linda I appreciate your detailed info. I do understand about the HIPPA info. That fact popped into my head a day or two ago. I'm really trying to decide between this coding course or to get a work comp claims adj certification. That is more up my alley and tough in itself. But I've taken other state exams so I understand the hard work.
The one frustrating thing is this... (I'm running into this in my job search as well) how do we get experience - even entry level if no employer wants to give you a chance. So just thinking out loud sorta. Thx for all the info!

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DeAnna in North Vernon, Indiana

8 months ago

Well not sure what is directed at me and what wasn't but i was never downing CS. I am just saying it's a very hard course to do from home. It takes days for instructors to get back to you and even then their answers are vague. I just do not recommend it but if you are going to take a coder course from home i would recommend it if you are determined to go this route. Trust me, it's going to come back and haunt you. You'll know it about 6 classes in. I had the same dream as the rest of you since my husband's passing..work at home..it's not a course that should be offered online. All i can do is share my experience and tell you your gonna get lost real fast with no help.

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Michael S. in Jacksonville, Florida

5 months ago

Career Steps is an absolute scam! Be very careful! They tell you about all the great aspects of their program,But fail to mention the financial part! I signed up and sent Them the $300 to begin the program.I did not receive a password or any material! I called and sent them emails and text to No Avail!!! The next thing I know Im getting threatening phone calls from Monterey financial!!! Within a period of 3 weeks,they say I owe them $3,000 dollars!! Never did get my $300 back either! I am now enrolled in an honest respectable school. Career Steps is all about deceitfulness.

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

5 months ago

Michael S. in Jacksonville, Florida said: Career Steps is an absolute scam! Be very careful! They tell you about all the great aspects of their program,But fail to mention the financial part! I signed up and sent Them the $300 to begin the program.I did not receive a password or any material! I called and sent them emails and text to No Avail!!! The next thing I know Im getting threatening phone calls from Monterey financial!!! Within a period of 3 weeks,they say I owe them $3,000 dollars!! Never did get my $300 back either! I am now enrolled in an honest respectable school. Career Steps is all about deceitfulness.

I have no idea what the problem was in your situation, but there is nothing deceitful about Career Step. When you sign up for their program their prices are listed quite plainly. When you click "Enroll Now" on any program the first thing you see is the full price for each program. No where does anybody claim that their program is only $300. No quality Medical Coding certification costs $300. If you signed up for their payment program, perhaps the beginning down payment is $300? I do not have experience with the payment plan so I can't say.
They were always very responsive to me via emails when I had questions, sometimes not the same day, but never 3 weeks with no response. I know they recently upgraded their system and had some slowness due to that, but I can't imagine your enrollment advisor would not have responded if had emailed him/her to say that you signed up and didn't get your enrollment materials.
Career Step has been around over 25 years, they are far from a scam. Their Medical Coding program is AHIMA-approved and not many online programs can say that.
referral.careerstep.com/?ref=36530

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Michael S. in North Carolina

4 months ago

Be Very carful with this school. They promise you the best training. They charge you $300 up front and then your on your own! Do not miss one payment or their collection dept. (monterey) will go after your credit. There are alot of better schools out there that actually care about your education.

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Barb24 in Wheaton, Illinois

4 months ago

Michael, your two comments don't make any sense. If you started by paying $300, then you must have started with the payment plan, so it would be a monthly payment, so to say within 3 weeks they were asking you for $3000 doesn't make any sense. Also, you could not have been in collections within 3 weeks because you would not have owed a 2nd payment yet. You would have to miss multiple monthly payments before being sent to collections.
Also, you have 2 weeks to return the program, so if its true they didn't send you your login information, you could have returned the program. Their website has several contact phone numbers, email addresses and even a chat function, if you had wanted to contact someone within those first weeks you could have done it. I'm sorry that you had this problem, but what you say here doesn't add up. I have and know several people personally who have done the program. There is a student forum and a Career Step Coders facebook group with thousands of members who support each other, bounce questions off one another and celebrate when they pass certification exams. The most consistent complaint I've seen there is that graduate services is slow to return emails (by days, not weeks)

Career Step's program is AHIMA-approved, meaning one of the only 2 organizations that provide the coding certifications that employers recognize approves this program. There is nothing deceitful about the program, everything is included with the tuition, even a voucher to take one certification exam. Also, their prices are very clear when you look at the website. And they have ways to chat on the website if you need help. They have excellent tuition discounts throughout the year when you pay in full or payment programs.
referral.careerstep.com/?ref=36530

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Michael S. in North Carolina

4 months ago

Barb 24... Its quite hillarious that you pose as recent graduate of Career Step! You work for the School. Its your job to defend the school. I paid the initial $300 and did not recieve the correct password. After weeks of trying to get started, I was told if I didnt make the next payment (before I even got started) that my access to the program would be cut off! I tried to explain the situation to the school, and they basically said I had to make a payment. I was so frustrated, that I started to look for another school. 2 months later, the school had their credit thugs(monterey) call me unrelentlessly! They threatened to ruin my credit. The next month I get a bill for $3,000.00!... I believe CS is all about the money! They have me in collections now and dropped my credit score... never again! Buyer Beware is all I can say.

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monica_new_coder in Cincinnati, Ohio

4 months ago

Michael S. in North Carolina said: Barb 24... Its quite hillarious that you pose as recent graduate of Career Step! You work for the School. Its your job to defend the school. I paid the initial $300 and did not recieve the correct password. After weeks of trying to get started, I was told if I didnt make the next payment (before I even got started) that my access to the program would be cut off! I tried to explain the situation to the school, and they basically said I had to make a payment. I was so frustrated, that I started to look for another school. 2 months later, the school had their credit thugs(monterey) call me unrelentlessly! They threatened to ruin my credit. The next month I get a bill for $3,000.00!... I believe CS is all about the money! They have me in collections now and dropped my credit score... never again! Buyer Beware is all I can say.

Michael, I am a recent Career Step graduate and what you report is NOT the typical experience. Got my CCS and I have a job and I made quite a few friends in the forums, a lot of them have finished the program too. It's been a real school for a long time, I did my research ahead of time.
Also, I was able to contact instructors for help when I needed to.

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K.C. in Las Vegas, Nevada

4 months ago

I went through Career Steps program and the program itself was fine but Cliff, the gentleman who sold the program to me said they placed you after graduation and that there were plenty of companies hiring and training new coders. Several students were told this. Please understand it it next to impossible to get hired as a coder out of school with no experience. I graduated with honors and passed the CPC magna cum laude and still can't find work. I have applied for entry level as well. Career Step needs to be more honest about this as I took savings and put my life on hold to go this direction and I am older so there isn't a second chance for me. Honesty regarding how difficult it is needs to clear in their advertisement as they still say they offer graduate help which anybody can do on their own. No matter how good your resume is, if you don't have experience, companies don't train coders anymore.

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K.C. in Las Vegas, Nevada

4 months ago

Even trying to get hired in a doctors office has been a no go and I graduated Career Step with honors and would pretty much start at any level. I have worked hard to get my foot in the door and it's experience only even in entry level they want a year.

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PMRNC in Plattsburgh, New York

4 months ago

These charter schools are for profit, for those that feel they got a good education but were misled with job opportunity, you cannot honestly say that was a scam. Common sense in an industry as fast paced and as highly regulated as this WILL be hard to break into with no experience. I agree that some honesty would be best, but it's like going to buy a car, the salesman is always going to tell you the higher priced car is "safer". I own and operate a large medical billing association and we have and maintain certifications for medical billers and I can tell you that many that take our certification exams coming straight from these charter schools or even other "online courses" don't do well at all. It isn't necessarily the schools fault completely. The curriculum used is often unchanged and many certification exams are tough and do require either a lot of studying (things not taught in classes) or real-life, hands on experience. With that said, employers are looking for either that ''experience" or those who have passed these certifications that may give you an overlook of experience.

Instead of doctors offices, try going to hospitals, they tend to have MORE entry level positions available such as in the records dept, benefit verification, and files department. Try that instead of the smaller offices. Yes you might start out only answering phones, but you will be able to get some hands on experience in the right setting. You might also look into taking some certification courses. Coding positions are MUCH harder to get than billing so you might want to think of adding billing as your position of choice. When you spend that kind of money on courses it's very easy to be mad at where you spent it in order to gain good employment, but it's like any career change, there will come challenges to overcome without experience. Most who go to those charter schools, never get certified just end up quitting. If this is what you want, hang in there!

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K.cC in Las Vegas, Nevada

4 months ago

Just so you know i passed my certs magna cum laude...

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